[LOG] OPs that disappear | Bitcointalksearch.org

Stalker22

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Quote from: fillippone on December 01, 2024, 01:41:09 PM

I sense that many of these threads have been opened by users who are accustomed to modern, fast-paced social media.
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Thats pretty much my opinion too. Forum discussions are generally different than most other social networks that are prevalent these days. There is a slower pace, a more thoughtful approach, and a greater emphasis on quality over quantity.

I can understand that there is a portion of new members who are new to this form of communication. They might ask a question, read the answers, but then simply disappear, never to be seen again. It is possible that they find the slower pace frustrating or that they dont fully understand the etiquette of forum discussions. But thats probably only a small percentage. This is just my guess, but I believe that most of the newbies here arent really newbies at all.

Wonder Work

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Quote from: LoyceV on December 01, 2024, 04:33:01 AM

User FATIHA is a shitposter bounty spammer who's basically asking how to earn money from "bounty management". There's no point in giving him more attention.

Okay, I accept that there is no point in paying attention to him, but if he is left like this all the time, then it will be seen that he is trying to influence others. We must ensure that they do not influence others in the future. They mainly come to the forum to scam; they should be tagged.

fillippone

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I sense that many of these threads have been opened by users who are accustomed to modern, fast-paced social media.
In forums like this one, we are different, and answers don't flush the OP; rather, there is a more resonant approach to every question asked.
It could be only a "cultural shock" from people from Telegram, who are usually flooded with (pointless) answers in the first minutes.
For them, waiting for a few hours a reply on this forum, it's like for us waiting for a few weeks here: simply too long.

Cricktor

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I'm not sure if a wall of shame like here would have any educative and positive effect on those to blame. It's probably better to call out such OPs in their own threads.

Is this a problem more apparent with newbie users? Likely, but not always. Some topics opened by such OPs have been asked and answered countless times. So, the OP didn't care to search and/or is simply lazy. The forum's search rather sucks than excels and how many newbies know about searching on ninjastic.space, where they don't experience rate limiting and usually a faster response?

But being a well-worn topic isn't the only case.

I'm only mildly annoyed by such OPs, usually I simply move on. It's not worth my time to do anything more than perhaps add the user to my ignore list when it's justified for me. There's also worse happening than the denounced habit this thread is about.

Those who annoy me more often, for whatever reason, likely earn a spot in my ignore list. That's just my personal preference, no role model. That's enough for me. I don't want to grant such users more attention and engagement. Don't feed the trolls, shitposters, you name it...

apogio

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Thanks for your responses.
You’ve helped me establish a solid opinion and I have come to the realisation that the log will not actually help the forum. We do have some features that can be used for this purpose already.
The thread was not a good endeavour after all.
I will soon lock it and move it to archive!

Ambatman

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I have come across quite some OP's that are fond of such
There was one that spammed the forum with posts with words $1000, Jan 2011, sometimes US.
Replying threads like that it's like placing water in a Basket especially when you realise the OP ain't really interested.
It just creates room For Spamming
If they are not going to engage, the least they can do is lock the thread.

MinMan

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Quote from: apogio on December 01, 2024, 04:22:23 AM

I 've always been angry seeing posts where the OP disappeared, not caring at all about the answers they get.

Could not be an enough reason for listing them IMO (might be getting their answers from the other devices where not logged in).

Such people are feeding campaign participants to chase their quota; if you come across any repeated topic, you are welcome to report and mods will take care the rest.

Disappearing can happen for multiple reasons; but as per unofficial forum rules, here we can look for spam level and we may react only up to that.

Solosanz

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Honestly, what's actually the purpose of this thread? discussion or what?

I don't see any problem since this is just your personal choice, I mean just like this guy that has his own meriting policy, while you has it's own ignoring policy. Anyone has it's own meriting policy, ignoring policy etc, it just depends whether they want to show to public or not.

Even you want to ignore theymos, there's no problem at all.

Lucius

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Quote from: apogio on December 01, 2024, 04:22:23 AM

Nowadays, we all have busy schedules, I get that. But opening threads and then disappearing is not acceptable.
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There are a lot of things that could be considered unacceptable here on the forum, but I think that hardly anyone would even think about something like this, because to be honest, there are a lot of worse phenomena that most people ignore. If you look at the B&H board, you will find most of those who "disappear", but what to expect from beginners or from those who play "my answer is the fastest" game in order to catch a few merits.

I honestly don't know what can be achieved with such a log - because I have warned members several times that it is not polite to disappear after receiving a response - but it happened that someone started reporting posts in which these members thanked for help as spam.

If nothing else, my opinion is that if the OP doesn't respond within 7 days, such a topic should be automatically locked because otherwise it often turns into a spam megathread.

Alone055

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I don't know where this idea came from, but some users, specifically those in the lower ranks, believe that creating new topics increases their chances of earning merits. It is maybe because they see OPs getting a lot of merits sometimes, but they are too dumb to understand that it is not the fact that they have started a thread, but it is that the topics created have substantial quality, which is why other members give them merits and importance.

Your idea of pointing such users out and ignoring them is not bad, but I wonder if this will affect those users. They barely care if they are ignored, even if a thousand users do it because they would still be free to keep doing what they have been doing without even paying attention to them being under the radar of most forum users. We can't propose something to restrict such users because theymos says he is not in favor of limiting users since this affects the health of the forum as a whole.

lovesmayfamilis

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It is probably necessary to proceed from the opposite. It has long been clear to everyone why these identical useless topics are created, with statements that someone is a newbie or cannot understand something. However, all the issues that interest him lie before his eyes.
The former popular source of merits, Ratimov, so wanted to be the first in everything that he gave each newbie merit for the topic he created. Everyone was happy with this. He was nominated in the next rating of those who help newbies, and they did not hesitate to create a bunch of alts and pile up the forum with identical useless topics. Now, probably, there is still hope for a repeat of such "happiness."
But if someone from DT marks several accounts as those who, having received answers, disappear without a trace and do not support conversations, you will be surprised how the habit of creating and ignoring such topics without answers will disappear instantly.

AbuBhakar

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There’s another irritating instances that OP keeps opening thread but never answer any replies on the thread and leave it like nothing happened. I forgot the user name but he took literally the role of being a thread starter because that’s the only thing he keeps doing despite being active.

OP that abandoned their thread while still active in the forum is worst than user that opens topic and disappear since they might not be a regular user of the forum while they might find answer already on different website like reddit/quora while waiting for replies.

charrles

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There should be criteria for this like OP should have done this same behavior some x number of times. If you count just one time of this behavior being done by a member here, it is going to be a very long list here.

apogio

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Quote from: LoyceV on December 01, 2024, 04:33:01 AM

User FATIHA is a shitposter bounty spammer who's basically asking how to earn money from "bounty management". There's no point in giving him more attention.
I've seen signature spammers who make a habit of creating and instantly abandoning pointless topics to reach their quota. I'd say those are better targets for "naming and shaming".

I ve noticed that as a user I don’t like the “there is no point giving more attention”
I want to see who these users are and ignore them or show them to other users so they don’t create unnecessary posts.
My goal after all is to efficiently fight shitposting.
If you think this thread won’t be helpful in this endeavour, I respect that and perhaps I should reconsider it. Not because you say it, but more because I myself, stated in the OP that it’s still not clear how we can use this list.

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on December 01, 2024, 04:37:46 AM

I don't know if you expect to achieve much with this. I tried to get people replying on the first page to read the previous posts and in the same thread I had people replying without having read the previous posts, plus most people didn't care.

I expect you'll have similar success.

As mentioned in my OP, not much, but the idea is that people don’t engage in conversations that they create! Too much shitposting, without any efficient way to control it!

Don Pedro Dinero

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I don't know if you expect to achieve much with this. I tried to get people replying on the first page to read the previous posts and in the same thread I had people replying without having read the previous posts, plus most people didn't care.

I expect you'll have similar success.

LoyceV

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Quote from: apogio on December 01, 2024, 04:22:23 AM

What is considered as "disappearing"
I suppose that one week without answering is a good indication that OP disappeared

You mean like this guy? Wink

User FATIHA is a shitposter bounty spammer who's basically asking how to earn money from "bounty management". There's no point in giving him more attention.
I've seen signature spammers who make a habit of creating and instantly abandoning pointless topics to reach their quota. I'd say those are better targets for "naming and shaming".

apogio

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Nowadays, we all have busy schedules, I get that. But opening threads and then disappearing is not acceptable.

Disclaimers:

I 've searched in the forum's meta section and also using ninjastic.space for a similar thread, but didn't find any. If there is a similar thread, let me know and I 'll lock this one.
I 'll update the log manually but if you could, I 'd appreciate some help.
The big question is what we can do with this list. Personally, I plan to put OPs in my ignore list, because not engaging with their own threads is not acceptable for me.

Motivation
I 've always been angry seeing posts where the OP disappeared, not caring at all about the answers they get.
I just never had the time to open a similar thread, but today is the day.

What is considered as "disappearing"
I suppose that one week without answering is a good indication that OP disappeared, unless they specifically mention in the initial post that they will need some time to answer.

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