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December 29, 2012, 11:35:28 PM
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Scotland Yards stated that he died alone, the only fact I believe in this case, for there wasn't room enough for two people in the bag.

Well, at least there's one fact that's not in dispute. Cheesy

OTOH, we can't exclude the possibility of two people entering the bag, with the second person exiting after Mr. Williams succumbed due to carbon dioxide poisoning, then cleaning the bathroom before leaving the flat.
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No, I think we can safely exclude that possibility, though the second half is more plausible than the first.

I think it's sad that no one considers the little people. There could have been several midgets in the bag with Mr Williams, only exiting when Mr. Williams died of sexual exhaustion. If they're invisible midgets, they might still be there.
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December 29, 2012, 01:55:01 PM
#11
Scotland Yards stated that he died alone, the only fact I believe in this case, for there wasn't room enough for two people in the bag.

Well, at least there's one fact that's not in dispute. Cheesy

OTOH, we can't exclude the possibility of two people entering the bag, with the second person exiting after Mr. Williams succumbed due to carbon dioxide poisoning, then cleaning the bathroom before leaving the flat.
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No, I think we can safely exclude that possibility, though the second half is more plausible than the first.
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December 29, 2012, 12:58:18 PM
#10
Scotland Yards stated that he died alone, the only fact I believe in this case, for there wasn't room enough for two people in the bag.

Well, at least there's one fact that's not in dispute. Cheesy

OTOH, we can't exclude the possibility of two people entering the bag, with the second person exiting after Mr. Williams succumbed due to carbon dioxide poisoning, then cleaning the bathroom before leaving the flat.
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December 29, 2012, 12:51:20 PM
#9
Scotland Yards stated that he died alone, the only fact I believe in this case, for there wasn't room enough for two people in the bag.

Well, at least there's one fact that's not in dispute. Cheesy
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December 29, 2012, 12:39:30 PM
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Oh yeah. folded himself into a sports bag. Seems legit.

What the fuck? Who 'locks' himself into a sports bag and doesn't give himself room to breathe? How? What?
Claustrophiliacs [sic]

FTFY!

Remember, Mr. Williams executed said task in the confines of a bathtub where the bag was discovered. 300 sets of prints pulled from the entire flat with the exception of the bathroom--where done were discovered. I reckon that's true of the lock, let alone finding no prints on the key found inside the bag with the nude body. Scotland Yards stated that he died alone, the only fact I believe in this case, for there wasn't room enough for two people in the bag.

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December 28, 2012, 09:07:14 PM
#7
Oh yeah. folded himself into a sports bag. Seems legit.

What the fuck? Who 'locks' himself into a sports bag and doesn't give himself room to breathe? How? What?
Claustrophiliacs (sic)
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December 28, 2012, 08:27:08 AM
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Oh yeah. folded himself into a sports bag. Seems legit.

What the fuck? Who 'locks' himself into a sports bag and doesn't give himself room to breathe? How? What?
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December 28, 2012, 07:57:17 AM
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Yes, seems plausible to comitt suicide by hiding yourself inside a sports bag..
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December 27, 2012, 11:22:44 PM
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Oh yeah. folded himself into a sports bag. Seems legit.



Gareth Williams inquest: yoga specialist attempts to lock himself in bag - video: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2012/apr/27/gareth-williams-yoga-bag-video

Note that even with the help of another guy outside the bag, Yogi still couldn't do it.
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December 27, 2012, 04:45:27 PM
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Two experts tried a total of 400 times to lock themselves into the bag and one claimed that even world-famous escapologist Harry Houdini "would have struggled" to squeeze himself inside.

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. . . a retired Army sergeant demonstrated that it was possible to climb into a similar North Face bag and lock it from the inside.

Scotland Yard detectives have now been able to repeat the experiment with some slight differences to the way the bag was locked, but which fits with how Gareth Williams was found in August 2010 . . .

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. . . He browsed self-bondage websites and sites about claustrophilia - the love of enclosure - on his computers and phone and was looking at fetish websites days before his death . . .

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. . . Friends and family . . . believed "some agency specialising in the dark arts" was behind his killing . . .
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December 27, 2012, 04:43:50 PM
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Oh yeah. folded himself into a sports bag. Seems legit.
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December 27, 2012, 04:32:09 PM
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Should avid bitcoiners be concerned?: http://www.news.com.au/world/mi6-codebreaker-gareth-williams-probably-locked-himself-into-sports-bag/story-fndir2ev-1226544342931

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After conducting a review of the case, Scotland Yard has found Williams probably locked himself into the sports bag and was not the victim of a hit by the security services, Britain's Daily Telegraph reports.

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Two experts tried a total of 400 times to lock themselves into the bag and one claimed that even world-famous escapologist Harry Houdini "would have struggled" to squeeze himself inside.
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