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Topic: loginsam45 and his alleged alt-accounts: ltcrstrbrt, GigaBit and bluedeep (Read 826 times)

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loginsam45 has had plenty of time to post here with any evidence to support his allegations. Though he has something tangible and worth considering when it comes to signing an Ethereum address for one of the accounts (he alleged were stolen), he has been unable to provide anything beyond that.

For that reason as well as sadly seeing it flooded by trolls and attention-seekers I have locked the thread. In future if loginsam45 does want to present anything to support his claims he can create a thread himself.
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Well, I am not supporting him. I just shared the possible reason to create this thread and this particular case. Indeed, we should not care what a random newbie posts in the forum without proper evidence or something. But if someone signs a message from BitcoinGirl.Club Bitcoin address and claim BitcoinGirl.Club is my account, we have to think twice about it.
Exactly and if someone indeed does it then the only possibility is from the hack I had few years ago when my bitcointalk account including email and exchange accounts were hacked But it's unlikely that they got any of my wallet details. I moved all my assets to new wallet and it was done as fast as I could. On the other hand, from the long forum participation, I had many discussions with many members, they will easily know that who they are discussing. I am sure I made an unique identity myself to many of the forum members and by any chance if this account get a hand to some unexpected hacker [again, although the hacker will need to hack my alt account too to make me vanish], after few discussions anyone will easily find that it's not the same person behind this account.

Anyway, I think the thread is over. I see JollyGood leaves no chance to order others to lock their threads. I wonder why it's taking him to do the same for this thread LOL.

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I am human, I make mistakes and I try to rectify them as and when possible. The same applies to my activities within this forum, I am not perfect, I have not come across any single member that is. You are right I was trying to get to the bottom of the allegation loginsam45 made but with him going absent it is not easy to understand what happened or understand what is going on. He provided some evidence to one of this claims but he did not provide anything of substance on his claim against the Gigabit account. He was active in the forum yesterday but as usual did not make a post. His last post was on 21st July 2023 in this thread. If loginsam45 does not show up here with evidence, I will lock the thread.
Okay. I understand that. I also had some words regarding your view toward others in Yahoo's thread, which does not mean I will talk against you. Every human makes mistakes, and you, me and others whoever writing here are not out of that box. If you see many people question your view regarding this reputation drama and feedback, don't you think it's something you should care about? For some reason, sometimes I agree with some of their words, whoever even trolls you. I saw you left people neutral tags for useless purposes like "you requested someone not to quote long text in a thread, and he did not hear you" You left him neutral feedback. It makes the neutral tag as if it's nothing. Well, it's something in the forum. Even though it is not an incorrect system of feedback system, leaving neutral feedback for every other reason makes it less worthy. I noticed your Distrust list is too long. Well, distrusting people with no credibility does not make sense as well. Some barely left feedback for others and are unlikely to be in DT in the next ten years.

When you distrust 10x than you trust, people might say you do not understand how it should work. When you leave more negative feedback than you left positive, it shows that you are actively looking to leave negative and you find joy in it. If you keep doing it, one day, you will realize people ignore your feedback, and those people are participating in a signature campaign with your feedback. People won't care about your feedback. Do you think lovesmayfamilies, The Sceptical Chymist is less aggressive? (Not sure if it's a correct choice of the word) No, they are aggressive too, but they observe the case and leave negative feedback once things are already proven. There are some other Scam busters and Spam busters that were never questioned. Even if they were questioned, it's scarce. Then why do we see people question your POV?

I am not someone who is established. I have shared my point of view on why people question your behavior. Don't take this as a suggestion or something. Take it as a compliment.

However, I will continue to question your use of the trust system and your attacks on people of lower ranks than you.

I don't want you to be hurt by my trolling, JollyGood.  This is just a forum, and it isn't worth any tears or any regrets.

Best wishes.
You have every right to question if you believe he is doing something wrong, and he should think about it. But trolling may make him sad, and he never thinks about it. Instead, it may end up with trust exclusion and utilizing ignore button.

BTW, I noticed your writing patterns match with someone!
Are you an alt of Satoshi by any chance?

He accepts that the accuser needs to come back and prove it otherwise you are in no obligation but then he is asking something else. Trust me if you give the answer and that goes against giving a red tag then he will bring another direction and ask you another question. It's a loop until he finds his best possible chance to tag you....
Yeah, I noticed that too. He said you are under no obligation yet asking another question to answer.

Tomorrow if someone whisper bitcoingirl is their account and ask JollyGood to help then you are suggesting JollyGood will create a thread and demand whatever information he wants from me? He knows his butt will turn red with constant kicking, I don't care if my Jordan torn apart. Then since he will not receive any answer he will red tag my account saying bitcoingirl account is user x's and wrong owner of bitcoingril kicked my ass with his Jordan. LOL

He needs to discuss with the accuser possibly in private and then collect undeniable proof before even dare to ask me questions. Otherwise whatever he is doing is to get paid for his signature campaign and of course his sole idea is to destroy any competition so that he can easily take part into forum advertising opportunities from managers.
Well, I am not supporting him. I just shared the possible reason to create this thread and this particular case. Indeed, we should not care what a random newbie posts in the forum without proper evidence or something. But if someone signs a message from BitcoinGirl.Club Bitcoin address and claim BitcoinGirl.Club is my account, we have to think twice about it.

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I would say that if there is an accuser, then he must prove guilt, not the accused.
I agree.

I've been looking at Gigabit's post history. In my opinion, it differs from the moment that, in the past, a person was an experienced miner and wrote quite lively posts; after a while, we see only general, dry posts about mining. I can say by myself: I am not a miner, and I don’t know all the subtleties, but I can successfully read any article and retell it in my own words. This happens in Gigabit posts after a break.

We communicate on the forum, and quite often people who have experience in this or that activity write on their own behalf. Gigabit never said he was a miner and knew all his secrets, although you can see completely different posts earlier.
But it is not worth relying on these cases to determine whether there was a hack or a change of account. Similarly, people are not required to keep their old wallets. Indeed, a lot of time has passed.
The bottom line is that even if Gigabit isn't the actual owner, it's pretty well disguised. I think there are a lot of such accounts on the forum; it's just that people don't treat them correctly.
Regardless of whether the Gigabit account was hacked or not, thankfully what has happened here (by bringing the Gigabit account in to the spotlight) is that we can all look at it conclude one way or another if the original owner/creator is still operating it. All that is missing is a little more input from the accuser (loginsam45) which might back up his claim to connecting the remaining accounts.
I had previously replied to a post and I am repeating that I clearly deny the allegations against me. The user 'loginsam45' has falsely claimed. He has been asked to prove his allegations but he has not done. Furthermore, I have directly refuted their claim, so it's only fair for him to provide substantiation. On the one hand he is a newbie and on the other hand his baseless claims. So, it will depend on you how you perceive the matter and how you will approach it.

Bro! Take my advice, just ignore this JollyGood shit and unless the accuser bring something that is undeniable truth, until then don't response to this thread, not at least to JollyGood. The more you will response this ass hole he will keep asking you more nonsense questions, from many directions. He is waiting to destroy your account and he needs an excuse, right now because me and others are interfering and he knows without any good visible reason he can not tag you, he is trying to make one. See the bold part.

Thank you for clarifying your denial and for stating loginsam45 created a false narrative and allegation against you. It is now up to loginsam45 to come back and refute your denial to be taken seriously otherwise you are no obligation to prove anything.

It has also been noted you are unable to sign an address from 2014/2015 for the reasons you already gave that you do not have access to them.

Would you be able to explain why your posting patterns have changed from September 2018 when you were last active before coming back to post in April 2022?

I had previously replied to a post and I am repeating that I clearly deny the allegations against me. The user 'loginsam45' has falsely claimed. He has been asked to prove his allegations but he has not done. Furthermore, I have directly refuted their claim, so it's only fair for him to provide substantiation. On the one hand he is a newbie and on the other hand his baseless claims. So, it will depend on you how you perceive the matter and how you will approach it.

He accepts that the accuser needs to come back and prove it otherwise you are in no obligation but then he is asking something else. Trust me if you give the answer and that goes against giving a red tag then he will bring another direction and ask you another question. It's a loop until he finds his best possible chance to tag you.

And, exactly who the fuck are you to make such demands?  A shit-posting reputation board spammer and trust abuser?  What makes you think you have any authority here?  Harassing newbies and 1xBit sig-campaigners, and shit-posting your way through the reputation board may have convinced some to elevate you into DT, but I have news for you; your demands don't mean shit.
I checked your feedback page right after reading this post and couldn't find what I was looking for. But anyways, I have a logical explanation that may make sense. User loginsam45 posted several times saying he had several forum accounts, and now he is asking for help from forum members. This is why Jollygood created this thread and wanted to help loginsam45.
Tomorrow if someone whisper bitcoingirl is their account and ask JollyGood to help then you are suggesting JollyGood will create a thread and demand whatever information he wants from me? He knows his butt will turn red with constant kicking, I don't care if my Jordan torn apart. Then since he will not receive any answer he will red tag my account saying bitcoingirl account is user x's and wrong owner of bitcoingril kicked my ass with his Jordan. LOL

He needs to discuss with the accuser possibly in private and then collect undeniable proof before even dare to ask me questions. Otherwise whatever he is doing is to get paid for his signature campaign and of course his sole idea is to destroy any competition so that he can easily take part into forum advertising opportunities from managers.
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I could have responded to him myself had he not been on my ignore list.

Lol, you and I both know you've been reading my messages, it just takes you a couple of extra clicks.  One to unignore and another to angrily ignore again.

The troll he has evolved in to over the past couple of years is not worth feeding.

I take issue with this comment.  Developing trolling skills as well-honed as mine takes much longer than a couple of years.  But I reserve them for those who truly deserve it, and you my friend are among the most deserving.  You should take some pride in that.

I am human, I make mistakes and I try to rectify them as and when possible. The same applies to my activities within this forum, I am not perfect, I have not come across any single member that is.

I'm an antagonistic, obnoxious asshole.  Not just on the forum, all the time.  It saves me a lot of time since no one expects any pleasantries from me.  There are a few people in my life who've learned to tolerate it, and fewer for whom I make an effort to be polite.  It's not something I'm proud of, but at the same time, it's not something I care to change.

Having said that, I will make an effort to be polite to you from now on.  Not because I care what you think about me (obviously I don't, although it did sting when you called me repulsive, really repulsive?) but because I don't like picking on people who are incapable of defending themselves.  You attempting to ignore me for the last couple of years only proves that you are incapable.  However, I will continue to question your use of the trust system and your attacks on people of lower ranks than you.

I don't want you to be hurt by my trolling, JollyGood.  This is just a forum, and it isn't worth any tears or any regrets.

Best wishes.
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I checked your feedback page right after reading this post and couldn't find what I was looking for. But anyways, I have a logical explanation that may make sense. User loginsam45 posted several times saying he had several forum accounts, and now he is asking for help from forum members. This is why Jollygood created this thread and wanted to help loginsam45.
I could have responded to him myself had he not been on my ignore list. The troll he has evolved in to over the past couple of years is not worth feeding.

Can you help me get my accounts back if I share the names of my accounts?

Yes you are right I am not new in this forum. I had many accounts in this forum but they are no longer under my control. My close friend cheated me and took the accounts for which I don't have high rank account now. For which I am posting with this newbie account. I have been back to the forum for three days.

It's been almost 20 days, but loginsam45 does not have enough evidence that those are his accounts. You would also think like this JollyGood is trying to help loginsam45, but you didn't for some reason. I have seen many accurate feedback from JollyGood, but I won't say he is always right.
I am human, I make mistakes and I try to rectify them as and when possible. The same applies to my activities within this forum, I am not perfect, I have not come across any single member that is. You are right I was trying to get to the bottom of the allegation loginsam45 made but with him going absent it is not easy to understand what happened or understand what is going on. He provided some evidence to one of this claims but he did not provide anything of substance on his claim against the Gigabit account. He was active in the forum yesterday but as usual did not make a post. His last post was on 21st July 2023 in this thread. If loginsam45 does not show up here with evidence, I will lock the thread.
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This is why Jollygood created this thread and wanted to help loginsam45.

If JollyGood cared to help someone recover an account he could simply point them in this direction, and that would be the end of it.  He has never helped anyone recover an alt, he's not a mod or admin so he doesn't have the power.  Furthermore, he hunts alts because his only joy in life is to spam his name on the as many trust walls as possible, create multiple threads in the reputation board while he's at it, and have the longest ~exclusion list in the history of lists.  He's a spammer, a shitposter, and a trust abuser.

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And, exactly who the fuck are you to make such demands?  A shit-posting reputation board spammer and trust abuser?  What makes you think you have any authority here?  Harassing newbies and 1xBit sig-campaigners, and shit-posting your way through the reputation board may have convinced some to elevate you into DT, but I have news for you; your demands don't mean shit.
I checked your feedback page right after reading this post and couldn't find what I was looking for. But anyways, I have a logical explanation that may make sense. User loginsam45 posted several times saying he had several forum accounts, and now he is asking for help from forum members. This is why Jollygood created this thread and wanted to help loginsam45.

Can you help me get my accounts back if I share the names of my accounts?

Yes you are right I am not new in this forum. I had many accounts in this forum but they are no longer under my control. My close friend cheated me and took the accounts for which I don't have high rank account now. For which I am posting with this newbie account. I have been back to the forum for three days.

It's been almost 20 days, but loginsam45 does not have enough evidence that those are his accounts. You would also think like this JollyGood is trying to help loginsam45, but you didn't for some reason. I have seen many accurate feedback from JollyGood, but I won't say he is always right. Some people really need to utilize the userscript instead of using the feedback page for personal notes.
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I ask ltcrstrbrt, GigaBit and bluedeep to add their views as soon as possible. I also ask loginsam45 to explain in as much detail as possible:

And, exactly who the fuck are you to make such demands?  A shit-posting reputation board spammer and trust abuser?  What makes you think you have any authority here?  Harassing newbies and 1xBit sig-campaigners, and shit-posting your way through the reputation board may have convinced some to elevate you into DT, but I have news for you; your demands don't mean shit.
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loginsam45 logged in this morning but has yet again failed to make another post either in this thread or anywhere else. His last post was on 21st July 2023 and it is 8th August today therefore he should post here with an explanation. Until then we can only speculate as to what is really going on.

One speculation could be maybe some or all of the protagonists are making a deal behind the scenes to become friends again.
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Now, if anyone catch the same similarity that I find, and only if anyone do, to prove that I am not reading between nonexistent lines, I'd like to complete my "witch hunt" by proposing an act of "grasping at straws", a theory that's been churning in my mind since last Sunday.

Yes, I do catch the similarity that you find. Although, I think that the sample from loginsam45 is too small, and it could be just a pure coincidence. Besides, if all three accounts are under the control of the same person right now, what would be the point of his claim? Rhetorical question, I know.


It's too small because loginsam45 barely made any post, but it might be not necessarily inadequate. The signed message he gave could point to the same quirk, I even made a remark about it, not realizing the possible implication behind it,

[...] because... who the hell add a space right after a line break?

The whole message body to be pasted to etherscan should be as below:

My Account 1. ltcrstrbrt 2. GigaBit 3. bluedeep
 I am the original owner of this account
 @JollyGood You investigate it properly

 Dated 21-07-2023
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Is it too far fetched to think that the quirk of adding extra space after a bracket extend to adding extra space after special characters [so, it's not only brackets, but also --for the case above-- a line break]? I am honestly asking here.

Now, for your question of rhetorical thing, it might coincide with what's been churning in my brain since yesterday, that it's not necessarily rhetorical; that it actually the basis of all of this drama. So enter my second act: grasping at straws.

ltcrstrbrt was accused of being connected and abusing merit to and with bluedeep on Merit Overflow of ltcrstrbrt of which although I previously said that IMO it didn't reach a verdict, it probably serve a connection here. The thread connects ltcrstrbrt to bluedeep.

According to Halab, bluedeep was banned, with reason unknown to us. I think it's a tempo-ban as when I look at BPIP, there were not that crossed circle symbol [an account being tempo and perma ban got this symbol, don't they?]. The perma/tempo ban aside, one thing that we can say from the ban is that bluedeep account violate a forum rule. If we connect a merit abuser and a rule violator, there goes a whole reputation.

I think there is a possibility that this whole stunt is loginsam45 to get a clean sheet of his older accounts, ltcrstrbrt and bluedeep, by saying that it got hacked by his friends, thus all the action of merit abuse and tempo/perma ban is not his responsibility. If he get community support, he'll get a clean sheet. The ltcrstrbrt and bluedeep will become his again with previous record of abuse being disregarded.

As for why I think this is a possibility [though technically, me "grasping at straws" should be making statements out of thin air, but I don't make accusations without proof, so here's the possible supporting evidences], the selections of older and newer posts are not without intention. Both quoted posts by ltcrstrbrt, GigaBit, and bluedeep are taken from their recent [post long break] and earliest [prior to long break] activity.

Let's assume ltcrstrbrt and bluedeep --and GigaBit-- got hacked during the long break, then there should be a change of the writing quirk. I don't think his friends share the same quirk, or would be that careful that they copied everything down to the quirk. And, suppose they did, then GigaBit's writing will begin to have this quirk, but they aren't. GigaBit's writing style stays consistent, he never separates a bracket with extra space, before and after the long break. So, if GigaBit is loginsam45's account, together with ltcrstrbrt and bluedeep, written by the same man, why is it only his that didn't share the quirk?

My assumption on this will be that GigaBit got dragged into the mud randomly to throw away suspicions. One account is a merit abused, one account got a ban hammer, so maybe there's a need to add a clean account to the equation to make a convincing story.

Another thing about being hacked, seclog of bluedeep said this,



with ownership change sec-log refers to a one week period where someone request a manual reset and an email was sent to the original owner, notifying the original owner to check if the request is indeed from the real owner, of which loginsam45 should have known there is an attempt to hack his account, he's been notified after all. He can say, "no, that's not me, that's my friend. Please return it to me, they changed the password, I can't log in." and mods will be more than happy to revoke the ownership.

Of course, all of those assumptions above are a wild ideas chasing each others and perpetually growing, churning persistently at the back of my mind. loginsam45 can easily dispell this [and I'll profusely apologize for making a wrong assumption that he's trying to get a clean sheet] by signing a message from GigaBit's older wallet, because introducing GigaBit into the equation that he's also the original owner of GigaBit will invalidate my theory of writing quirk and clean sheet.
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Now, if anyone catch the same similarity that I find, and only if anyone do, to prove that I am not reading between nonexistent lines, I'd like to complete my "witch hunt" by proposing an act of "grasping at straws", a theory that's been churning in my mind since last Sunday.

Yes, I do catch the similarity that you find. Although, I think that the sample from loginsam45 is too small, and it could be just a pure coincidence. Besides, if all three accounts are under the control of the same person right now, what would be the point of his claim? Rhetorical question, I know.
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Ok, not sure why I kept reappearing here. But if... I may perform a far fetched analysis,  I took a very quick sweep through the four accounts and noticed a writing quirk shared between loginsam45, ltcrstrbrt, and bluedeep that's not shared by GigaBit.

[please note that I said it myself that it's far fetched for me, because if we use this basis, I fully realized that I shared a same quirk with BitcoinGirl.Club who, so far, is the only one on the forum that I find who have one distinct writing preference as me --though I move to that preference only recently-- thus one may propose that, since I gave this idea, I am subjected to be accused as the same account owner as BGC. I assure all of you that I am not, though.]

The samples are picked randomly by jumping through pages, but intentionally taken few from "recent" posts and few from old ones. To maintain fairness and make sure I am not seeing ghost or whatever, I'll leave these posts unmarked, see if anyone else also catches the same.

These are long posts, I know. The quoted posts below are not meant to be read carefully one by one, but rather simply be glanced.

If you want a quick profit then go and trade on exchanges. Wondering how some people think the development works. There is a hard work on development part, is not the same think as clamming for bounties. If you cry like a child then you should have invested ( if you are what you pretend) in Decent ico or others projects.

Green screen or blue screen? Anyway, try to run your GPU without riser ( I don't see any reason to use a riser if you have only one GPU installed)

Cat au reusit sa stranga pana la urma? S-a terminat Ico-ul sau nu?  Am vrut sa ma bag si eu la un moment dat insa nu prea mi-a convenit blockchain-ul pe care l-au ales ( respectiv NEM) .

Sau poate sa foloseasca direct Electron Cash, cu importarea seed-ului iar dupa aceea isi muta BCH ul pe o alta adresa generata in Electron ( foarte important acest aspect atunci cand se importa direct seed-ul si nu cheia privata)

dezavantaje  hmm probabil  primul  consta in faptul ca odata ce utilizatorul se vede cu partea lui  incearca so vanda cat mai repede ( oricum am primit-o moca dc sa nu profit acuma etc..) astfel existand la inceput  imediat dupa terminarea distribuirii  probabilitatea unui dump mai mare ..asta pana se regleaza piata ...dupa aceea totul functioneaza normal ca in cazul unei monezi POW



Right now is not about of a Electrum code vulnerability like in the past ( see CVE-2018-1000022
CVE-2018-6353) it's about off Electrum "ecosystem" itself .. users can be tricked quite easily when they make an update. That's why  it must be acted with maximum vigilance!

Weak or strong password - it doesn't matter when the hackers are in full control of wallet. The question is how they got that access,  fake update, keylogger, etc. Knowing this, it will prevent other users to get tricked.

Electrum has a long history of vulnerabilities ( including indirect vulnerabilities ) and many time this wallet got hacked. As you know, because is a lite bitcoin wallet, it needs to connect to servers, If your wallet connects to the network via malicious severs, your money get lost! For these that are new in this, you can find on the internet many attempts and successful attacks against Electrum, and many funds and many funds were stolen. In my opinion, Electrum was and is, the most attacked Bitcoin wallet. You should not understanding me wrong ( I'm using Electrum) but Electrum attracts the hackers (advantages and disadvantages), therfore increased vigilance is always necessary when you use a lite wallet ( and not only! ). Also the most attacks occured  after an update (this is well known thing)

Back in the past, around 2015, my entire system was hacked including the work station, six mining rigs, router, mail account and also Cryptsy account.
The  attackers had full control for several days, until I realized what was happening. They withdrew all the funds on the same day. In that hack I lost around 110k WhiteCoin, 334k DGB, 1300 Dash ( former DarkCoin), 1002 LTC and many other alts .. My BTC was stored on BTC-e exchange ( this account wasn't compromised because on this one the log credentials were stored offline - it was my first exchange which I used).
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Referitor la Trust Wallet, chiar daca este detinut de Binance, codul este open source. ( De ex. codul Coinbase Wallet este doar partial open source)

Electrum este open source insa fiind vorba de Dapps-uri, ai putea incerca Wallet Connect.

Teoretic, este imposibila instalarea unei actualizari malicioase in MetaMask insa este posibila descarcarea si instalarea unei copi fidele ( malicioasa desigur).

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Cam asa este  dar pentru asa ceva e nevoie de unitate si lipsa coruptiei .. inca nu am incasa sume considerabile  din monezi virtuale, momentan le strang insa atunci cand va trebui sa vand din ele  trebuie sa ma gandesc bine la ce va urma mai ales ca sunt client al fiscului ( venituri din drepturi de autor ) este deajuns sa ma prefac ca uit vreun an de declaratie si sa arunce fiscul un ochi prin conturile mele si-o so dau din colt in colt ...cat timp lucram cu bancile daca nu declaram veniturile e cu risc pentru ca totul se inregistreaza ...pana la urma fiecare face dupa cum considera, pe propria-i piele ...

yeah the coins has left from the wallet ( firstly i tried to send a bigger amount and i got some "extra size " error, after that i tried with little amount and worked fine )

cine te-a furat? povesteste pls.
scz intarzierea ... deci .. dupa ip u  imi indica o persoana din filipine.. probabil folosea un vpn u  si cel mai sigur imi instalase un keylogger ( probabil accesasem un link  suspect desi nu sunt genu de persoana care sa dea clik-uri pe orice )



My account ltcrstrbrt, GigaBit,  bluedeep
   I am the real owner of these account. i lost wallet address which i used in this two accounts ltcrstrbrt & GigaBit. but i can proof by another way thats account now using another user which means those account got hacked /sold

   @JollyGood are you investigate correctly?

bluedeep - (I have already signed a message for Ethereum wallet which wallet i was used before 2017)

GigaBit - ( Check the different of post quality till 2018 and from 2022
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gigabit-198112

New user active the account and jumped for signature campaign and till now this account are begin use for signature campaign)

ltcrstrbrt - ( i will post a valid proof for this too soon)



Why I am being asked to sign in messages. Since he (loginsam45) raised the complaint, he has to prove whether he is the owner of the account or not. Ask him and ask him to prove it. Why he is not come back to online. I am the owner of this account. When this complaint came up I tried to find my old wallets but couldn't find (2015). My previous devices have changed. If I had known that I would need my wallets later, I would have tried to keep them more carefully. If loginsam45 can sign the message then I will have nothing to say. But that is impossible, I challenged him.

After observing Netherlands perform we can can assume that they normally play good against any weak team. Many of us start dreaming about their team after few good matches but in reality, it is unlikely that it will happen. Because they can't perform as expected with the experienced team. Netherlands (edited) inconsistency will not allow them to go far in a World Cup where every team is more stronger. I think this team should regain their consistency back as soon as possible.

Thank you joeperry ‍ৃand Uthopia team, @joeperry you have managed to ensure the payment (15th week) of the participants very nicely despite having high transaction fee. You are one of the trusted few managers on the forum and you have a nice discipline in your management. I hope you will  get more success in your future work. I worked on your campaign for a long 1 month. I hope to have the opportunity to work on your campaigns again in the future.

Yes and No

Depends how big the deposit, you do notice fluctuations in Gold prices (if you day trade) when SIGNIFICANT deposits are found because new ones of rather small size are found daily.

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I'm a Gold miner and dealer, I came to Bitcoin, why?

Go back to November 2013 - The SCARE of a US Government shutdown is what was the main catalyst in that price rise.  There's actually some hedge funds that work on the same level as Gold and many IRA sellers now offer Bitcoin to their client's portfolio.  The death of the USD will affect the USA first and foremost.  The Chinese Yuan or Euro which will likely replace the USD as world reserve is also one of the currencies most traded in Bitcoin; this means that if the USD loses its status, Bitcoin will use the next world reserve to price itself and related assets.

I sell gold and Bitcoin is more wanted than Gold because it can't be seized and large amounts can easily be hidden.  One ton of gold is about 14 inches cubed but weighs about 1 ton (2,000 LBS).  Yeah, try dragging that around with you.  Even if Gold is a physical store of value, it's not efficient if you keep it at home because Gold is VERY heavy, one of the heaviest elements on the table (19.2x heavier than water).  Even that ton is a mere $40M...  Not necessarily a whole lot of money today.  You can hide that same amount of money in your shoe on a SD card with bitcoin if you want.

During the $1,000 times people were flocking to Bitcoin because it was more readily available than anything else.  Gold requires shipping and in times like those, vaults run dry quickly.  During that same time, Gold was losing in value, Gold went up and went back down as fast as the government re-opened its doors but Bitcoin remained high until the Gox incident.

I own little Gold anymore (I have a claim anyways) other than a few nice nuggets but everything else I have is in Bitcoin.  I know it will be easier to sell Bitcoin than it will be to sell gold; Bitcoin doesn't require shipping and is traded within an hour.  When the Dollar dies, it will mean the big break for bitcoin because it will be the only readily available form of value transfer.  There is too many "virtual" gold that if everyone cashed out at once, there would be a crash in the price of Gold itself... because if your gold is in a vault that won't ship it to you or you need to wait months, it's not worth anything.

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Now, if anyone catch the same similarity that I find, and only if anyone do, to prove that I am not reading between nonexistent lines, I'd like to complete my "witch hunt" by proposing an act of "grasping at straws", a theory that's been churning in my mind since last Sunday.
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Thank you for clarifying your denial and for stating loginsam45 created a false narrative and allegation against you. It is now up to loginsam45 to come back and refute your denial to be taken seriously otherwise you are no obligation to prove anything.

It has also been noted you are unable to sign an address from 2014/2015 for the reasons you already gave that you do not have access to them.

Would you be able to explain why your posting patterns have changed from September 2018 when you were last active before coming back to post in April 2022?

I had previously replied to a post and I am repeating that I clearly deny the allegations against me. The user 'loginsam45' has falsely claimed. He has been asked to prove his allegations but he has not done. Furthermore, I have directly refuted their claim, so it's only fair for him to provide substantiation. On the one hand he is a newbie and on the other hand his baseless claims. So, it will depend on you how you perceive the matter and how you will approach it.
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I would say that if there is an accuser, then he must prove guilt, not the accused.
I agree.

I've been looking at Gigabit's post history. In my opinion, it differs from the moment that, in the past, a person was an experienced miner and wrote quite lively posts; after a while, we see only general, dry posts about mining. I can say by myself: I am not a miner, and I don’t know all the subtleties, but I can successfully read any article and retell it in my own words. This happens in Gigabit posts after a break.

We communicate on the forum, and quite often people who have experience in this or that activity write on their own behalf. Gigabit never said he was a miner and knew all his secrets, although you can see completely different posts earlier.
But it is not worth relying on these cases to determine whether there was a hack or a change of account. Similarly, people are not required to keep their old wallets. Indeed, a lot of time has passed.
The bottom line is that even if Gigabit isn't the actual owner, it's pretty well disguised. I think there are a lot of such accounts on the forum; it's just that people don't treat them correctly.
Regardless of whether the Gigabit account was hacked or not, thankfully what has happened here (by bringing the Gigabit account in to the spotlight) is that we can all look at it conclude one way or another if the original owner/creator is still operating it. All that is missing is a little more input from the accuser (loginsam45) which might back up his claim to connecting the remaining accounts.
I had previously replied to a post and I am repeating that I clearly deny the allegations against me. The user 'loginsam45' has falsely claimed. He has been asked to prove his allegations but he has not done. Furthermore, I have directly refuted their claim, so it's only fair for him to provide substantiation. On the one hand he is a newbie and on the other hand his baseless claims. So, it will depend on you how you perceive the matter and how you will approach it.
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I would say that if there is an accuser, then he must prove guilt, not the accused.
I agree.

I've been looking at Gigabit's post history. In my opinion, it differs from the moment that, in the past, a person was an experienced miner and wrote quite lively posts; after a while, we see only general, dry posts about mining. I can say by myself: I am not a miner, and I don’t know all the subtleties, but I can successfully read any article and retell it in my own words. This happens in Gigabit posts after a break.

We communicate on the forum, and quite often people who have experience in this or that activity write on their own behalf. Gigabit never said he was a miner and knew all his secrets, although you can see completely different posts earlier.
But it is not worth relying on these cases to determine whether there was a hack or a change of account. Similarly, people are not required to keep their old wallets. Indeed, a lot of time has passed.
The bottom line is that even if Gigabit isn't the actual owner, it's pretty well disguised. I think there are a lot of such accounts on the forum; it's just that people don't treat them correctly.
Regardless of whether the Gigabit account was hacked or not, thankfully what has happened here (by bringing the Gigabit account in to the spotlight) is that we can all look at it conclude one way or another if the original owner/creator is still operating it. All that is missing is a little more input from the accuser (loginsam45) which might back up his claim to connecting the remaining accounts.
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I would say that if there is an accuser, then he must prove guilt, not the accused.

I've been looking at Gigabit's post history. In my opinion, it differs from the moment that, in the past, a person was an experienced miner and wrote quite lively posts; after a while, we see only general, dry posts about mining. I can say by myself: I am not a miner, and I don’t know all the subtleties, but I can successfully read any article and retell it in my own words. This happens in Gigabit posts after a break.

We communicate on the forum, and quite often people who have experience in this or that activity write on their own behalf. Gigabit never said he was a miner and knew all his secrets, although you can see completely different posts earlier.
But it is not worth relying on these cases to determine whether there was a hack or a change of account. Similarly, people are not required to keep their old wallets. Indeed, a lot of time has passed.
The bottom line is that even if Gigabit isn't the actual owner, it's pretty well disguised. I think there are a lot of such accounts on the forum; it's just that people don't treat them correctly.
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Yes the onus is on the accuser but Gigabit made an entry in the thread to deny wrongdoing then ignored the subsequent request for clarification. Instead of addressing it he decided to make a huge number of posts to meet his signature campaign quota before returning here with clarification. That was not the expected conduct by most members looking to explain they have no association with the hack allegations made against them.

It does not indicate guilt but it certainly does not look good when you read through post history and come to a conclusion something is not right there.

ltcrstrbrt has been inactive for almost four months now, indicating that he likely abandoned the account after his merit abusing incident came to light in this thread: "Merit Overflow of ltcrstrbrt." The evidence presented in that thread, connecting him to bluedeep, was compelling. However, he opted not to offer any meaningful response or address the allegations properly.

As for the GigaBit account, there is no evidence linking it to any of the other accounts, and loginsam45 has not offered any reasonable explanation for his allegations that I've seen.
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Let's leave GigaBit and ltcrstrbrt unless the accuser have something as strong evidence as he showed for Bluedeep or someone finds a strong connection between Bluedeep and these two accounts that will actually prove something.

ltcrstrbrt has been inactive for almost four months now, indicating that he likely abandoned the account after his merit abusing incident came to light in this thread: "Merit Overflow of ltcrstrbrt." The evidence presented in that thread, connecting him to bluedeep, was compelling. However, he opted not to offer any meaningful response or address the allegations properly.

Not sure why ltcrstrbrt is not active or did he really abandoned his account but it seems he was defending himself. I had to refresh my mind and gave a quick read of some of the posts. It seems like even though he is a legendary account he does not have enough knowledge of how merit works. We can not blame a person for it if they are not active in the forum, very occationally if they are logging in, checking whatever they want and logging out. It seems I left my statement there too.

What odd is that these excited forum police gang are too quick to conclude anything based on few set up experiences they only experienced in their small life like [a.] someone exchange merit to someone oddly = They are alt, they traded merit [b.] someone wrote something similar to others, once twice, thrice = they are alt [c.] someone they don't like to argue with = make his feedback page their personal note [d.] someone posted someone else address = they both owned by one person and more one or two scripted logics. These police will interrogate, harass you, disrespect you until you are completely silent and lost everything. They are doing it constantly and forum is losing many members for them. So anything coming from them should be double checked, triple checked, before taking the accusation seriously. They just love it to see another forum member gone down.

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As for the GigaBit account, there is no evidence linking it to any of the other accounts, and loginsam45 has not offered any reasonable explanation for his allegations that I've seen.
I guess we have no way to know or at least I have any interest to know anything about him. If i am interested to hear anything from anyone then it's the accuser loginsam45 .
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Let's leave GigaBit and ltcrstrbrt unless the accuser have something as strong evidence as he showed for Bluedeep or someone finds a strong connection between Bluedeep and these two accounts that will actually prove something.

ltcrstrbrt has been inactive for almost four months now, indicating that he likely abandoned the account after his merit abusing incident came to light in this thread: "Merit Overflow of ltcrstrbrt." The evidence presented in that thread, connecting him to bluedeep, was compelling. However, he opted not to offer any meaningful response or address the allegations properly.

As for the GigaBit account, there is no evidence linking it to any of the other accounts, and loginsam45 has not offered any reasonable explanation for his allegations that I've seen.
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I will suggest ltcrstrbrt, GigaBit and bluedeep to do nothing. Not even to make any response in this topic.

Ok, got interested with this one, so I popped back in once more. Maybe GigaBit need a help in refreshing their memory. Here's the two addresses you previously announced in the forum and you can sign to prove the ownership,

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15Awon4gimPkA3idF7AKXnpYSa2rPupdUX - My wallet
[...]

GigaBit 1.89 19JTMqXFNB49cWzZ6awsafrQqxnp6vBXDc

loginsam45, you do aware that this works two way, right? You can also sign message from any of both addresses above to prove ownership of GigaBit account
It does but it doesn't have to. Tomorrow if a brand new member or even a fairly new or an enemy of yours make a post and claim that he owns holydarkness, I would not be such stupid to bother you to ask for a sign message or call you in a topic created for you to clear your name. Instead, I will ask the accuser to give enough strong evidences so that I will be sure that he is not trolling us all. Do you have any such strong back up story? I guess I don't see any yet.

Then my request is to leave these three guys alone.
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Hmm... actually there is a good back up story against bluedeep, the post made by loginsam45 on post #2 signed a message from an address that's used by bluedeep in the past. I think it'll be probably in bluedeep's interest to give his side of explanation on this situation, especially regarding the address.
I get that. Sorry for overlooking it. Bluedeep part is clear.

We can expect Bluedeep to tell something in his defense. I will send him a PM although July 21st was his last logged in date. As long as he can prove it that it's not hacked or stolen I think he will be fine. There used to be time when we had accounts in trade, account used in collateral. When someone bought an account or received it using a fair trade then using it without scamming anyone for long time, gave the community his time, he deserves a chance. I hope Bluedeep will have a good story otherwise it will be sad to see an account is going to be ruined.

Let's leave GigaBit and ltcrstrbrt unless the accuser have something as strong evidence as he showed for Bluedeep or someone finds a strong connection between Bluedeep and these two accounts that will actually prove something.
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I will suggest ltcrstrbrt, GigaBit and bluedeep to do nothing. Not even to make any response in this topic.

Ok, got interested with this one, so I popped back in once more. Maybe GigaBit need a help in refreshing their memory. Here's the two addresses you previously announced in the forum and you can sign to prove the ownership,

[...]
15Awon4gimPkA3idF7AKXnpYSa2rPupdUX - My wallet
[...]

GigaBit 1.89 19JTMqXFNB49cWzZ6awsafrQqxnp6vBXDc

loginsam45, you do aware that this works two way, right? You can also sign message from any of both addresses above to prove ownership of GigaBit account
It does but it doesn't have to. Tomorrow if a brand new member or even a fairly new or an enemy of yours make a post and claim that he owns holydarkness, I would not be such stupid to bother you to ask for a sign message or call you in a topic created for you to clear your name. Instead, I will ask the accuser to give enough strong evidences so that I will be sure that he is not trolling us all. Do you have any such strong back up story? I guess I don't see any yet.

Then my request is to leave these three guys alone.
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Hmm... actually there is a good back up story against bluedeep, the post made by loginsam45 on post #2 signed a message from an address that's used by bluedeep in the past. I think it'll be probably in bluedeep's interest to give his side of explanation on this situation, especially regarding the address.

That said, I can agree that GigaBit and ltcrstrbrt probably doesn't have to answer by signing an address or anything yet, because loginsam45 has yet to provide ownership of them, and that there were not anything that ties both account to loginsam45 or bluedeep [of course, that's said with a fact that I am not an expert on that matter as I am not that privy] other than an accusation of merits of ltcrstrbrt, that I don't think reached a verdict, so that thread itself --IMO-- is not substantial enough. That's part of the reason why I said to loginsam45 that it works both ways, that he can, and invites him to, proves the ownerships from his side.

To answer your question about if it's me, if it's baseless and/or have nothing to back up the claim, I'll quite likely to ignore it [ermm... I think I'll be more likely to answer them sarcastically, if I have to be honest, LOL], but if they have a claim that have one or two basis, like on bluedeep's, then I think I'd like to be given a chance to defend myself. Or, if I stand on the other side of the table, that I got hacked --or what other reason loginsam45 claimed-- and I've give a proof of ownership by a signed message, I think I will appreciate if my words and statement [that I've been hacked] to be at least given a benefit of doubts, which were given to loginsam45 right now. I thank you for your trust in me that --for you-- I don't have to counter the accusation if similar scenario happened to me, though.



Edit: tidying grammar error and a bit incoherence as I took some time [and lots of break because I was out while typing this] to compose this post. And thanks, FatFork to also pointing the signed message out.
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Instead, I will ask the accuser to give enough strong evidences so that I will be sure that he is not trolling us all. Do you have any such strong back up story? I guess I don't see any yet.

You may have missed it, but loginsam45 did sign the message from an address previously used by bluedeep. So, at least that part of his story checks out, as confirmed by holydarkness.

{
  "address": "0x4320379558e74800b37114848e7905695c33624A",
  "msg": "My Account 1. ltcrstrbrt 2. GigaBit 3. bluedeep\n I am the original owner of this account\n @JollyGood You investigate it properly\n\n Dated 21-07-2023",
  "sig": "0xd5cb38c0ee532eb6ec4b28c17ba8924c696f838e1b78cda49751d74024a80dca528047651eedc e6e496fa81b1ae5517d0108823f879fc3ba590589790d1a6c5a1b",
  "version": "2"
}

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ETH address: 0x4320379558e74800b37114848e7905695c33624A

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I will suggest ltcrstrbrt, GigaBit and bluedeep to do nothing. Not even to make any response in this topic.

Ok, got interested with this one, so I popped back in once more. Maybe GigaBit need a help in refreshing their memory. Here's the two addresses you previously announced in the forum and you can sign to prove the ownership,

[...]
15Awon4gimPkA3idF7AKXnpYSa2rPupdUX - My wallet
[...]

GigaBit 1.89 19JTMqXFNB49cWzZ6awsafrQqxnp6vBXDc

loginsam45, you do aware that this works two way, right? You can also sign message from any of both addresses above to prove ownership of GigaBit account
It does but it doesn't have to. Tomorrow if a brand new member or even a fairly new or an enemy of yours make a post and claim that he owns holydarkness, I would not be such stupid to bother you to ask for a sign message or call you in a topic created for you to clear your name. Instead, I will ask the accuser to give enough strong evidences so that I will be sure that he is not trolling us all. Do you have any such strong back up story? I guess I don't see any yet.

Then my request is to leave these three guys alone.

I'm not going to solve the mystery, but I will give you a little info : I see bluedeep account banned. BPIP, LoyceV's tools, modlog, the Staff section don't give me more info. Maybe a temp ban.

Quote from: JollyGood link=topic=5460544.msg62581728#msg62581728

2) How were these accounts stolen by his friend
I will add "How and when these accounts stolen by his friend". It could be important.
I don't know how much internal information a staff can have like IP, device info and anything else which is enough to at least give a benefit of doubt but nonetheless I don't think it will be good to comment anything that may give out information of such private things even when you are making a neutral stand. You are one of forum staff not like independent members like us who are free to do anything, tell anything, make anything. A very little mistake from you will not only look you bad but the entire forum will suffer for it where if I make a mistake then no one else is going to question the forum a single question but all to me.
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We need more input from loginsam45 in this thread.

For now at least, I am not stating loginsam45 is telling the truth nor am I stating you are the one who is truthful but as a point of interest we should have some clarity on what was mentioned by _BlackStar. Can you sign any of your three known addresses from 2014/2015?

If you are unable to sign any of them please explain why.

Anyone is welcome to file their complaint but I am truly astonished by how openly he discusses his alternate accounts, a behavior that I have never witnessed before. If he can provide valid evidence, then undoubtedly, he will be able to recover his accounts accordingly.
I can truly say that newbie are making false claims if you make a disclaimer by signing your old bitcoin address before you change the account password. That's one of the best ways to make a disclaimer - but I don't have to force you to.

There are some old wallets you used in 2015 - if something never happened to you and the file store you should be able to sign messages from those addresses.
Why I am being asked to sign in messages. Since he (loginsam45) raised the complaint, he has to prove whether he is the owner of the account or not. Ask him and ask him to prove it. Why he is not come back to online. I am the owner of this account. When this complaint came up I tried to find my old wallets but couldn't find (2015). My previous devices have changed. If I had known that I would need my wallets later, I would have tried to keep them more carefully. If loginsam45 can sign the message then I will have nothing to say. But that is impossible, I challenged him.
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Ok, got interested with this one, so I popped back in once more. Maybe GigaBit need a help in refreshing their memory. Here's the two addresses you previously announced in the forum and you can sign to prove the ownership,

[...]
15Awon4gimPkA3idF7AKXnpYSa2rPupdUX - My wallet
[...]

GigaBit 1.89 19JTMqXFNB49cWzZ6awsafrQqxnp6vBXDc

loginsam45, you do aware that this works two way, right? You can also sign message from any of both addresses above to prove ownership of GigaBit account
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With his reputation on the line, one would expect an urgency to clear the matter but since the above post was made 3 days ago asking for him to sign a previously used address from before the time of the allegations, GigaBit has logged in and made 10 posts in order to meet his signature campaign quota.

What Gigabit has not done is posted here in this thread again to explain his reasons if he unable to sign any of his three known addresses from 2014/2015. We are still waiting here for his participation to defend his name while he is posting everywhere else to get the Duelbits signature campaign payout.
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We need more input from loginsam45 in this thread.

For now at least, I am not stating loginsam45 is telling the truth nor am I stating you are the one who is truthful but as a point of interest we should have some clarity on what was mentioned by _BlackStar. Can you sign any of your three known addresses from 2014/2015?

If you are unable to sign any of them please explain why.

Anyone is welcome to file their complaint but I am truly astonished by how openly he discusses his alternate accounts, a behavior that I have never witnessed before. If he can provide valid evidence, then undoubtedly, he will be able to recover his accounts accordingly.
I can truly say that newbie are making false claims if you make a disclaimer by signing your old bitcoin address before you change the account password. That's one of the best ways to make a disclaimer - but I don't have to force you to.

There are some old wallets you used in 2015 - if something never happened to you and the file store you should be able to sign messages from those addresses.
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Was it necessary to quote the whole long detailed OP in order to make a post just for the sake of your 2 1/2 line post?
 
1) Are you the person who created the GigaBit account?
2) Did you ever buy, sell or hack the GigaBit account?
3) Did you ever buy, sell or hack any other forum account?
4) In your opinion why would loginsam45 state the account is his not yours?
5) Explain what you mean by loginsam45 sharing misinformation

You state loginsam45 shared misinformation but you ask others to evaluate the situation when you yourself have not elaborated on it. Now that you have finally made an appearance here, kindly stop the cryptic messages and be direct with your comments.

Are you the person who created the GigaBit account?

Yes, I am the real owner.
Did you ever buy, sell or hack the GigaBit account?

Definitely not
Did you ever buy, sell or hack any other forum account?

I only use my BitcoinTalk account. I am not a hacker, so any accusation of hacking other accounts on the forum that i will not accept.
In your opinion why would loginsam45 state the account is his not yours?

Anyone can claim something, but without evidence, everything becomes meaningless. I will challenge him to prove that it is his account. If I make a complaint, then I will have to provide the evidence that this account is mine, right? If that's the case, then he should provide evidence to prove it. I have been using this account since 2013. If he is the real owner of this account, he can provide proof through the sign message method.
Explain what you mean by loginsam45 sharing misinformation

I do not know why he provided false information that is he is the real owner and what he is trying to convey or achieve with it. It's possible that he might be attempting to gain merits or improve his reputation on the forum in a short period. However, without evidence, it's hard to determine his exact motives or intentions.
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Was it necessary to quote the whole long detailed OP in order to make a post just for the sake of your 2 1/2 line post?
 
1) Are you the person who created the GigaBit account?
2) Did you ever buy, sell or hack the GigaBit account?
3) Did you ever buy, sell or hack any other forum account?
4) In your opinion why would loginsam45 state the account is his not yours?
5) Explain what you mean by loginsam45 sharing misinformation

You state loginsam45 shared misinformation but you ask others to evaluate the situation when you yourself have not elaborated on it. Now that you have finally made an appearance here, kindly stop the cryptic messages and be direct with your comments.

Anyone is welcome to file their complaint but I am truly astonished by how openly he discusses his alternate accounts, a behavior that I have never witnessed before. If he can provide valid evidence, then undoubtedly, he will be able to recover his accounts accordingly. To be a newbie he is raising allegations without evidence. He also shared misinformation. Now, it's up to you how evaluate the condition.
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Anyone is welcome to file their complaint but I am truly astonished by how openly he discusses his alternate accounts, a behavior that I have never witnessed before. If he can provide valid evidence, then undoubtedly, he will be able to recover his accounts accordingly.
I can truly say that newbie are making false claims if you make a disclaimer by signing your old bitcoin address before you change the account password. That's one of the best ways to make a disclaimer - but I don't have to force you to.

There are some old wallets you used in 2015 - if something never happened to you and the file store you should be able to sign messages from those addresses.
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@JollyGood are you investigate correctly?
You should provide evidence of your claim and you should also answer the questions in the OP:

I ask ltcrstrbrt, GigaBit and bluedeep to add their views as soon as possible. I also ask loginsam45 to explain in as much detail as possible:

1) Why he claims he operated the three accounts that were stolen from him
2) How were these accounts stolen by his friend
3) What is the forum member name of this friend
4) Why was he operating the three accounts in the first place
5) Does he have any other accounts he is still controlling/operating
6) Are speeder and Averim connected within the account farming
7) What he means when he stated he wants justice. Clarify what he means by justice

Quote from: JollyGood link=topic=5460544.msg62581728#msg62581728

2) How were these accounts stolen by his friend
I will add "How and when these accounts stolen by his friend". It could be important.
I would like to know which information you have collated, hopefully it will shed some light on what is turning out to be a bizarre series of allegations which at the moment loginsam45 is failing to provide evidence to back-up his claim.

It is not entirely clear that the GigaBit account belongs to the other two. From the very beginning, he does not hide the fact that he lives in Canada. But the quality of the posts is different from what it was in the beginning and what he writes about mining now. Now, this is not written by the miner. I agree that the account changed hands.
The other two belong to the Romanian local section, but it is difficult to link them to the first one.
Communication in Romanian ceases in 2018 at bluedeep. ltcrstrbrt writes in Romanian this year as well.
But I didn't find a word in Romanian on GigaBit.
Would you be more inclined to say it was either a clever attempt at misdirection or something far less sinister such as being innocent of the allegation made by loginsam45?

And since you say that you lost the wallet address that was used by two accounts, ltcrstrbrt & GigaBit, how do you intend to prove that you were their previous owner?
This thread has given loginsam45 the platform to express his views and to provide evidence to substantiate his allegations. He has not even taken advantage of that by making a single coherent post.

I am baffled that all of a sudden, the member (loginsam45) that was posting words and sentences with a high degree of accuracy, is now post incoherent ramblings instead of providing evidence supporting his allegations.
Anyone is welcome to file their complaint but I am truly astonished by how openly he discusses his alternate accounts, a behavior that I have never witnessed before. If he can provide valid evidence, then undoubtedly, he will be able to recover his accounts accordingly. To be a newbie he is raising allegations without evidence. He also shared misinformation. Now, it's up to you how evaluate the condition.
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@JollyGood are you investigate correctly?
You should provide evidence of your claim and you should also answer the questions in the OP:

I ask ltcrstrbrt, GigaBit and bluedeep to add their views as soon as possible. I also ask loginsam45 to explain in as much detail as possible:

1) Why he claims he operated the three accounts that were stolen from him
2) How were these accounts stolen by his friend
3) What is the forum member name of this friend
4) Why was he operating the three accounts in the first place
5) Does he have any other accounts he is still controlling/operating
6) Are speeder and Averim connected within the account farming
7) What he means when he stated he wants justice. Clarify what he means by justice

Quote from: JollyGood link=topic=5460544.msg62581728#msg62581728

2) How were these accounts stolen by his friend
I will add "How and when these accounts stolen by his friend". It could be important.
I would like to know which information you have collated, hopefully it will shed some light on what is turning out to be a bizarre series of allegations which at the moment loginsam45 is failing to provide evidence to back-up his claim.

It is not entirely clear that the GigaBit account belongs to the other two. From the very beginning, he does not hide the fact that he lives in Canada. But the quality of the posts is different from what it was in the beginning and what he writes about mining now. Now, this is not written by the miner. I agree that the account changed hands.
The other two belong to the Romanian local section, but it is difficult to link them to the first one.
Communication in Romanian ceases in 2018 at bluedeep. ltcrstrbrt writes in Romanian this year as well.
But I didn't find a word in Romanian on GigaBit.
Would you be more inclined to say it was either a clever attempt at misdirection or something far less sinister such as being innocent of the allegation made by loginsam45?

And since you say that you lost the wallet address that was used by two accounts, ltcrstrbrt & GigaBit, how do you intend to prove that you were their previous owner?
This thread has given loginsam45 the platform to express his views and to provide evidence to substantiate his allegations. He has not even taken advantage of that by making a single coherent post.

I am baffled that all of a sudden, the member (loginsam45) that was posting words and sentences with a high degree of accuracy, is now post incoherent ramblings instead of providing evidence supporting his allegations.
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Just passing by, please ignore me, I am currently not interested on this case as I have other things to attend, as well as not gonna draw any conclusion about loginsam45, nor that I've ever have to verify a signed message, but tweaking with it a little, the error made on the signing message seems because somehow when he posted his reply, there's space between "eedc" and "e6e4", where it should be a complete line without any space. Not sure why when we quote his post it'll show that the line is uninterrupted, but upon being posted, it'll be broken into two line [the image I show will describe better]

{
  "address": "0x4320379558e74800b37114848e7905695c33624A",
  "msg": "My Account 1. ltcrstrbrt 2. GigaBit 3. bluedeep\n I am the original owner of this account\n @JollyGood You investigate it properly\n\n Dated 21-07-2023",
  "sig": "0xd5cb38c0ee532eb6ec4b28c17ba8924c696f838e1b78cda49751d74024a80dca528047651eedc e6e496fa81b1ae5517d0108823f879fc3ba590589790d1a6c5a1b",
  "version": "2"
}




This line, upon being pasted into https://app.mycrypto.com/verify-message, will also have a space, as shown on FatFork's screenshot as well as mine below, and removing that space will validate the message, as shown on the image next to it:



That said, and as I previously said that this is the first time I have to verify a signed message, so I am not well versed on this matter, I am not sure if the message should only be verified by "mycrypto" or if other platform will also work, but I try to verify it on etherscan as a doublecheck and it turned invalid,





Edit:

Ok, found it, tweak it out a little, have a feeling that the error is in the message and trying to figure out how the message supposed to be written. "\n" is an line break [enter] --this I figured quite fast-- but I also automatically ignore the space next to the line break, for example in the word "... bluedeep\n I am...", I tried to make them as "... bluedeep[enter]I am", ignoring and deliberately deleting the space between "\n" and "I" where it should be "... bluedeep[enter][space]I am ..." because... who the hell add a space right after a line break?

The whole message body to be pasted to etherscan should be as below:

My Account 1. ltcrstrbrt 2. GigaBit 3. bluedeep
 I am the original owner of this account
 @JollyGood You investigate it properly

 Dated 21-07-2023

and it's validated:

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My account ltcrstrbrt, GigaBit,  bluedeep
   I am the real owner of these account. i lost wallet address which i used in this two accounts ltcrstrbrt & GigaBit. but i can proof by another way thats account now using another user which means those account got hacked /sold


Nothing you've given us so far confirms your story.

light_warrior has already pointed out that your signature doesn't check out.


https://app.mycrypto.com/verify-message

And since you say that you lost the wallet address that was used by two accounts, ltcrstrbrt & GigaBit, how do you intend to prove that you were their previous owner?

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It is not entirely clear that the GigaBit account belongs to the other two. From the very beginning, he does not hide the fact that he lives in Canada. But the quality of the posts is different from what it was in the beginning and what he writes about mining now. Now, this is not written by the miner. I agree that the account changed hands.
The other two belong to the Romanian local section, but it is difficult to link them to the first one.
Communication in Romanian ceases in 2018 at bluedeep. ltcrstrbrt writes in Romanian this year as well.
But I didn't find a word in Romanian on GigaBit.


I live in Canada, import under my corporate name AND have a UPS importer account.  All three are really nice savings Wink


Buna, numele meu este Paul , Am fost pasionat de Bitcoin de cativa ani  si am decis cu cateva luni in urma sa creez o moneda plina de succes. Sunt programator atestat C#  si Xamarin Mobile Apps .
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I find your lack of faith in Bitcoin disturbing.
I'm not going to solve the mystery, but I will give you a little info : I see bluedeep account banned. BPIP, LoyceV's tools, modlog, the Staff section don't give me more info. Maybe a temp ban.

Quote from: JollyGood link=topic=5460544.msg62581728#msg62581728

2) How were these accounts stolen by his friend
I will add "How and when these accounts stolen by his friend". It could be important.
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My account ltcrstrbrt, GigaBit,  bluedeep
   I am the real owner of these account. i lost wallet address which i used in this two accounts ltcrstrbrt & GigaBit. but i can proof by another way thats account now using another user which means those account got hacked /sold

   @JollyGood are you investigate correctly?

bluedeep - (I have already signed a message for Ethereum wallet which wallet i was used before 2017)

GigaBit - ( Check the different of post quality till 2018 and from 2022
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gigabit-198112

New user active the account and jumped for signature campaign and till now this account are begin use for signature campaign)

ltcrstrbrt - ( i will post a valid proof for this too soon)
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{
  "address": "0x4320379558e74800b37114848e7905695c33624A",
  "msg": "My Account 1. 2. GigaBit 3. bluedeep\n I am the original owner of this account\n @JollyGood You investigate it properly\n\n Dated 21-07-2023",
  "sig": "0xd5cb38c0ee532eb6ec4b28c17ba8924c696f838e1b78cda49751d74024a80dca528047651eedc e6e496fa81b1ae5517d0108823f879fc3ba590589790d1a6c5a1b",
  "version": "2"
}

Your signature doesn't check out. You've made a mistake somewhere. So you're gonna have to re-sign the message. And be more careful when you sign the message. And also, I am interested in why you added these accounts -  ltcrstrbrt and GigaBit - to your message? After all, they did not use this address on the forum. In any case, I did not find any mention of this address in the posts of these two accounts. This address is mentioned only in your posts and bluedeep's posts.

So you are trying to deceive the community that these two accounts belong to you. Sign your posts with the addresses that mention these two accounts in their posts on the forum

ltcrstrbrt  - https://ninjastic.space/addresses?author=ltcrstrbrt
GigaBit - https://ninjastic.space/addresses?author=GigaBit
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{
  "address": "0x4320379558e74800b37114848e7905695c33624A",
  "msg": "My Account 1. ltcrstrbrt 2. GigaBit 3. bluedeep\n I am the original owner of this account\n @JollyGood You investigate it properly\n\n Dated 21-07-2023",
  "sig": "0xd5cb38c0ee532eb6ec4b28c17ba8924c696f838e1b78cda49751d74024a80dca528047651eedc e6e496fa81b1ae5517d0108823f879fc3ba590589790d1a6c5a1b",
  "version": "2"
}
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loginsam45 has stated in a different unrelated thread that he has several alt-accounts and as a result some that thread is now being taken off-topic. In order to keep the conversation specific to the subject I have opted for this thread.

What can be stated is loginsam45 has not provided any evidence he was duped out of the accounts he claimed he operated. Before consideration is given to tagging all four mentioned accounts there should be a period to allow them all to reply confirming or refuting what loginsam45 has claimed.

I ask ltcrstrbrt, GigaBit and bluedeep to add their views as soon as possible. I also ask loginsam45 to explain in as much detail as possible:

1) Why he claims he operated the three accounts that were stolen from him
2) How were these accounts stolen by his friend
3) What is the forum member name of this friend
4) Why was he operating the three accounts in the first place
5) Does he have any other accounts he is still controlling/operating
6) Are speeder and Averim connected within the account farming
7) What he means when he stated he wants justice. Clarify what he means by justice

=========================================================


So, why don't you share us names those accounts that were allegedly stolen from you, but this time provide a proper evidence for your claims.
Can you help me get my accounts back if I share the names of my accounts?

@JollyGood You have taken a good initiative I think there are some other DT members including you for whom this forum no longer has trading accounts like it used to.  Such warnings will stop corruption from the forum.  I think you took strict action against those who bought and sold accounts in 2022, for which now the forum is much stronger.

In my opinion, you are no stranger or new to this forum, because you already know about trading, JollyGood and DT.
New newbies don't know anything about it, only those who have been here for a long time know all that, in future if you find alt cheats in the campaign, try to post with your main account and mark them as cheaters.
Yes you are right I am not new in this forum. I had many accounts in this forum but they are no longer under my control. My close friend cheated me and took the accounts for which I don't have high rank account now. For which I am posting with this newbie account. I have been back to the forum for three days.

This account was up for sale on the exact date it woke up.
The seller sold this account without removing or updating the selling thread. Clicking on Merit and Trust from the sell thread will redirect you to this account. Can someone verify before the seller remove the thread?
He does seem to have any posted Bitcoin address in the different boards, but I do see an Ethereum address posted back in 2017 for a bounty campaign

Irfan please update my ETH address on Blog form ( position 158)

ETH address: 0x4320379558e74800b37114848e7905695c33624A
Thank you!

Maybe the person could try using a message from the address to prove that it didn't change hands.
This account has changed hands. My 3 accounts have been taken by my friend by cheating me. I want justice for this.

Ask those who are using my accounts to sign the address message. If they can sign the address message, then I will never come to this forum again.
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