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June 04, 2024, 02:02:45 AM
#47
I have always known that it will only be a matter of time before AI behaves just like humans, and it will even be near perfection if the AI is specifically drawn from a certain personality like we see the attempts today. They will do exactly as the person does, so this should not be so surprising anymore. It should not be concerning as well since it is all about delivery. If what humans are expected to do is done exactly by the AI or even better, what is now the headache in that? This is what AI development is even driving at.

The world is evolving whether we like it or not and it will get to a time that you will never be able to decipher the difference between Al works and humans. And guess what, some of these tools would be free when the time comes.
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June 03, 2024, 11:34:20 PM
#46
Huh

I'm talking about what I think will happen in the future, that everything will be cheaper and even free and integrated in your mobile, not about what happens now, that we are in terms of AIs as in internet usage in 1998 or in smartphones usage in 2008.

I understand that what happens now with those GPTs is that if you go directly to their website they will want to charge you x for their subscription but the way to get volume will be through the GPT 4o chat subscription, which will pay them peanuts because it only charges $20 a month.

Yeah I know that, I was just mentioning how GPT4 was a paid feature (and still is), but now you can effectively get a few (10 I think) GPT4 responses a day for free out of GPT4o.

Clearly that means they keep buying the capacity and hardware to be able expand the number of users like that.
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June 03, 2024, 11:00:32 PM
#45
And I also believe that this will eventually not even be paid for. Technology becomes cheaper in record time, and tends to be integrated. I believe that in a few years you will have it available with your cell phone. Just as today you have google lens or similar integrated in the camera of your mobile and if you want to know about an image you don't even have to open the app to search.

Just look at GPT-4o for example. What would otherwise be an exclusive feature (GPT4) is not being made available to Free subscribers in limited quantities.

Although it looks like you can actually make a GPT that talks to your own API. While I was playing with the GPTs the other day to make the humanized example post, several of them asked me to connect to other websites and log into them. Which sounds pretty weird if you ask me because those APIs are also charging users for their own integration.

 Huh

I'm talking about what I think will happen in the future, that everything will be cheaper and even free and integrated in your mobile, not about what happens now, that we are in terms of AIs as in internet usage in 1998 or in smartphones usage in 2008.

I understand that what happens now with those GPTs is that if you go directly to their website they will want to charge you x for their subscription but the way to get volume will be through the GPT 4o chat subscription, which will pay them peanuts because it only charges $20 a month.
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June 03, 2024, 10:44:55 PM
#44
And I also believe that this will eventually not even be paid for. Technology becomes cheaper in record time, and tends to be integrated. I believe that in a few years you will have it available with your cell phone. Just as today you have google lens or similar integrated in the camera of your mobile and if you want to know about an image you don't even have to open the app to search.

Just look at GPT-4o for example. What would otherwise be an exclusive feature (GPT4) is not being made available to Free subscribers in limited quantities.

Although it looks like you can actually make a GPT that talks to your own API. While I was playing with the GPTs the other day to make the humanized example post, several of them asked me to connect to other websites and log into them. Which sounds pretty weird if you ask me because those APIs are also charging users for their own integration.
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June 03, 2024, 10:38:26 PM
#43
Anyone looking for a better way to cheat with AI content can now try this new tool. Thanks Poker Player!
Just kidding.

I understand the joke but for the sake of argument if you want I can hide from them that there are some things called internet and mobile too. I just had to open the app on my cell phone to see it.

Services like this are not cheap at all...

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 Huh

I pay 20 bucks a month for the premium chat gpt which includes hundreds of specialized gpts like that one (you can see it in explore gpts). If you are in a signature campaign, it will not be expensive, even if it is one of those that pay very little, like $50 a week.

And I also believe that this will eventually not even be paid for. Technology becomes cheaper in record time, and tends to be integrated. I believe that in a few years you will have it available with your cell phone. Just as today you have google lens or similar integrated in the camera of your mobile and if you want to know about an image you don't even have to open the app to search.
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June 03, 2024, 09:26:58 PM
#42
I bet these guys open another company that can detect this tool.  Then they raise the price on this tool once they claim to improve it so it can't be detected.   Then they raise the price on their other tool once they can detect the improved version.   And so on...  Smiley
I mean, wouldn't that be a genius business model right? I mean that's what Apple does, they create the problem and then they sell you solution, this company wouldn't probably need to do that, they can just sell it in that company, it might be a contradiction but at the least they don't have to be hassled.
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June 03, 2024, 03:31:14 PM
#41
If enough members report suspicious posts that would be enough in my opinion, so we need more active reporters  in forum.
All reports in the world won't be enough if mods are not strict enough and I am not sure that's the situation at the moment when I look at all those reported AI spammers that are not banned yet.
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June 03, 2024, 03:04:39 PM
#40
With all this talk of trying to prevent IA in the forum, how will it be prevented when it is indistinguishable from human writing?
Services like this are not cheap at all, so cheaters would have to pay for each created post, and I don't believe their claims about 100% not being able to be detected for plagiarism.
It is not that hard to identify when someone is constantly using help of AI tools for generating posts every day, and need to use only one tool for detecting that - our brain.
If enough members report suspicious posts that would be enough in my opinion, so we need more active reporters  in forum.
 
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June 03, 2024, 12:54:52 PM
#39
Wow, this is actually pretty hilarious. From human to AI , and AI to AI to make the final output sound more human like lol. Isn’t that a trip. This day and age we live in man.

I bet these guys open another company that can detect this tool.  Then they raise the price on this tool once they claim to improve it so it can't be detected.   Then they raise the price on their other tool once they can detect the improved version.   And so on...  Smiley
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June 03, 2024, 12:22:55 PM
#38
With all this talk of trying to prevent IA in the forum, how will it be prevented when it is indistinguishable from human writing?



Wow, this is actually pretty hilarious. From human to AI , and AI to AI to make the final output sound more human like lol. Isn’t that a trip. This day and age we live in man. I’m just holding out for the day the humanoid AI robots come and they can make a robot clone of me that can come in and do my job so I can go golfing every day. I predict this shall happen in my lifetime, hopefully I get rich tho and won’t need to lmao
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June 03, 2024, 10:49:11 AM
#37
Anyone looking for a better way to cheat with AI content can now try this new tool. Thanks Poker Player!
Just kidding.

They are just marketing it as not being detected as AI written, but with enough input, the content will start looking predictable and AI detectors will have an easier task to recognize it as such. We can already see that some of them aren't tricked by this AI wearing a human mask. Marketing gibberish.

@theymos
Perhaps it's time you took a stance on AI written content and come up with a rule against it. Imagine you are banning mixers if it's easier. Grin
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June 03, 2024, 10:26:12 AM
#36
AI to detect AI to humanize by AI. The AI show lol.

That's right, just imagine an AI that is designed to detect other AIs, who pretend to be humans and they play each other like a show, which shows them pitting their intelligence against each other. Maybe those of us who watched just sat and enjoyed their show while smiling and laughing. Cheesy Grin

But it's not just a show - each AI is learning from the conversation.   Different coders will create different AI models, even using the same training data.  It will be very interesting when we place two or more of our best AI systems together in a written* conversation and see which one contradicts itself first.

* We must forbid the AI systems from communicating in other ways, since we could not understand their evolving language.  

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Earlier in 2017  Shocked, Google revealed that the AI it uses for its Translate tool had created its own language, which it would translate things into and then out of. But the company was happy with that development and allowed it to continue.
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June 03, 2024, 09:25:36 AM
#35
AI to detect AI to humanize by AI. The AI show lol.

I use AI every day and in many cases the answers it gives are human. Here's an example. The other day I was dressed casually and went to buy a complete suit, with shirt and tie. When I was trying it on, it occurred to me to take a picture and upload it to the AI, and, without me asking it anything, it told me that the suit fit me very well, that the color matched my shirt and tie but that if it was for a formal occasion I should wear shoes instead of snickers, which is what I was wearing at the time (shoes were the only thing I wasn't going to buy because I have several good pairs at home).

BTW, read this article lol about people who used to lol a lot too:

20 genius inventions that were ridiculed, now everyday products

The “humanizer” thing made me laugh and I am not going to go into detail with the comments because I simply left you with the subject in case you are interested.

One thing is clear to me: the decade ahead of us is going to be the decade of AI, and the big money is going to be in it. Outside this forum, of course.
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June 03, 2024, 08:31:48 AM
#34
AI to detect AI to humanize by AI. The AI show lol.


That's right, just imagine an AI that is designed to detect other AIs, who pretend to be humans and they play each other like a show, which shows them pitting their intelligence against each other. Maybe those of us who watched just sat and enjoyed their show while smiling and laughing. Cheesy Grin
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June 03, 2024, 04:13:17 AM
#33
When the case of members using AI to create post on this forum started to become popular, one member once said that "in time to come, AI can be modified to even create content that cannot be detected as AI-generated." I am not surprised at all to see this humernized AI, but whatever the case may be, I know that some members will still get caught using the AI to write comments just to earn money from the campaign they are participating in. When there are problems like this, solutions should also be sought, and what I suggest is that the moderators or the admin should come up with an official rule to ban or give a signature ban to any user that is caught using AI to create posts and let a thread be created for the list of victims and be pinged on the meta board. I believe that such an approach will instill fear in any member that wants to use AI. 
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June 03, 2024, 03:12:48 AM
#32
Spammers shitpost AI because they are lazy. Most of them will be too lazy to run their text through a program like this, or even put effort into discovering it. Some of them are motivated just enough to manually make their texts a bit more shitty so its not totally obvious they are from ChatGPT. Although for native English speakers, its still fairly obvious what's going on if you're paying attention.

This is why, even if they "humanize" AI-generated output, it's still not going to convincingly look like a human wrote it because they just copy the entire response with the boilerplate introductions and endings and lists and all that, and the AI prints it with a certain character length, all sorts of fancy characters like bullet points (maybe the spammers are hard-working enough to fix those), smart quotes and fancy dashes.

And you can use these heuristics to catch even sophisticated humanized text. For example, look at my post above. It has em dashes in it. Even though I heavily make use of dashes in my posts, I never use em dashes. Ever. So just like that, you can tell with good confidence whether something was generated with an AI, or at least with this particular hint, a stock Apple device (as they format characters by default).

Spammers are too lazy to refine their output to look convincing as their ultimate goal is to make 200 posts a week across many accounts, so they are not usually going to apply any of these techniques to save time.
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June 02, 2024, 11:59:27 PM
#31
Alright, someone please tell me how this would work:  we've got a lazy, shit-smelling, dirty barefoot dirtbag who wants to steal a spot in a signature campaign from someone who can really write--and this flea fart comes across a thread in Bitcoin Discussion something along the lines of, say, "Bitcoin vs. Gold??".  Said fuck fart flea bag then does what exactly with an AI program?  Does he just input the title of the thread and hope to his local god the program spits out something that nobody here will notice did not originate fully from a human brain?
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So I guess my question boils down to "what text are they running through an AI program?".

I imagine its as easy as this:



Then here is the result:

If we start getting members changing their posting style massively, it should be obvious what's going on.

Also a solid way to expose said dirtbags.
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June 02, 2024, 11:43:52 PM
#30
Alright, someone please tell me how this would work:  we've got a lazy, shit-smelling, dirty barefoot dirtbag who wants to steal a spot in a signature campaign from someone who can really write--and this flea fart comes across a thread in Bitcoin Discussion something along the lines of, say, "Bitcoin vs. Gold??".  Said fuck fart flea bag then does what exactly with an AI program?  Does he just input the title of the thread and hope to his local god the program spits out something that nobody here will notice did not originate fully from a human brain?

Seriously, I'm ne plus ignoranti of the mechanics of this chicanery, and is it really going to be that easy for all of the real scumbags we have on the forum to finally clear the language barrier by a huge margin?  

If so, the end has begun for our fine forum, fellas.

Most of them will be too lazy to run their text through a program like this, or even put effort into discovering it.

So I guess my question boils down to "what text are they running through an AI program?".  Would that be the shitpost in horrible English that they would normally post?  If we start getting members changing their posting style massively, it should be obvious what's going on.  But I fear the worst.

I still don't see why someone will need an AI to do something as simple as discussions.

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June 02, 2024, 10:23:51 PM
#29
Even though you're giving spammers a massive hint, I doubt they'll actually even read this topic, and therefore appreciate your choice in title.

Spammers shitpost AI because they are lazy. Most of them will be too lazy to run their text through a program like this, or even put effort into discovering it. Some of them are motivated just enough to manually make their texts a bit more shitty so its not totally obvious they are from ChatGPT. Although for native English speakers, its still fairly obvious what's going on if you're paying attention.

Ultimately, AI-generated posts are still deleted as spam, so if it still looks like spam (according to the mods), that's all that really matters when reporting posts.
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June 02, 2024, 02:18:59 PM
#28
Ai are so much poor technically especially when it relate to Bitcoin and maths, which is already gives a red flag and with the more trouble also that follows from the fact that it`s generated by an Ai obviously, so shitposters will rather move to a more free space like altcoin discussion, politics & society and gambling board since members usually gives little attention to this board though sometimes the Bitcoin Discussion is also included.
Yes of course AI are better at things like list or writing on a topic or something however I haven't come across one that's very good at things like solving math problems or analysis that requires reasoning and proper computation. Most AIs rely on some sort of data bank from their host where they produce their replies from and for mathematical based questions or problems they may not have an exact answer in their data bank to fit the question asked and in the process of trying to morph it the AI may end up making some errors.

Relying on AI to make post is not a proper practice as the user just ends up copying and pasting the AI's reply  without learning any thing from it .
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June 02, 2024, 02:01:09 PM
#27
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Infact shit posters are very easy to identify that is part of the reason why they keep their posts in mega threads because they obviously can't engage in serious discussions. Take a board like technical discussion for example, when a user has an issue and makes a post about it there, it requires someone with some level and understanding to suggest possible solutions. However if a spammer uses an AI in such a case, they Will obviously spot it that the poster copied it and has no idea what he is saying.
Ai are so much poor technically especially when it relate to Bitcoin and maths, which is already gives a red flag and with the more trouble also that follows from the fact that it`s generated by an Ai obviously, so shitposters will rather move to a more free space like altcoin discussion, politics & society and gambling board since members usually gives little attention to this board though sometimes the Bitcoin Discussion is also included.




*I am of the opinion that AI posts should not be eligible for campaign payment though, humanized or not.
Humanized is still an AI and Definitely those using it will not be consider for payment except they were not caught I guess that`s when they actually escape it because I don`t think any CM support it especially when it`s against forum rule. Though I guessed bounty managers usually don`t consider this and that`s why most of these shitposters even with negative tags will still continue with Ai until possibly are banned.
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June 02, 2024, 06:32:48 AM
#26
AI humanizers are getting more common, but luckily, they do not look like ChatGPT spam. We may just need new heuristics—perhaps on things like text length—to recognize ChatGPT-based posts. How about other ways of doing it?

In case you couldn't figure it out - this is a humanized paragraph. I don't think any AI tools can detect this given that it's so short (you can try if you want) [Original]. The future is not so bright. I'll be happy to share more details about how I humanized it though.

*I am of the opinion that AI posts should not be eligible for campaign payment though, humanized or not.
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June 02, 2024, 05:44:16 AM
#25
Some AI detector tools are already robust and sophisticated enough to detect text content written or humanized by AI, while others are not. As you can see from the small test I ran, the humanizerAI doesn't work.
It's going to be a never ending race because when AI detection improves, AI humanizing softwares would definitely be improving, unless something is done by the authorities regarding humanizing AIs to preserve integrity of stuff that might be affected by AI then it's going to be an arms race of some kind. Maybe for now, it might not work but things are getting more and more advanced right now and I'm sure that the developer of these AIs will be trying to improve on it. Hopefully, AI detection will stand triumphant.
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June 02, 2024, 05:35:47 AM
#24
This is WOW. Recently I saw that AI has been integrated to WhatsApp and Facebook and later it might extend to other social media. Since this forum is not a social media, AI content should not be allowed here. What people are looking for on this forum is original idea of real human and not mimicked idea of AI.
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June 02, 2024, 02:00:32 AM
#23
Well, that means the only thing left for us is to continue detecting and reporting shitposting. As long as the forum keeps those rules in place and the mods are on the ball with reported stuff, we can definitely put up a good fight against AI-generated junk.  Speaking of which, it might be a good idea for mods to use sig-ban and temp-ban penalties more often for repeat offenders.
Funny how I still don't see how difficult it is to discuss with people on the forum without some AI helping you out. As far as I'm concerned a great percentage of topics on this forum are just discussion and I still don't see why someone will need an AI to do something as simple as discussions.
Infact shit posters are very easy to identify that is part of the reason why they keep their posts in mega threads because they obviously can't engage in serious discussions. Take a board like technical discussion for example, when a user has an issue and makes a post about it there, it requires someone with some level and understanding to suggest possible solutions. However if a spammer uses an AI in such a case, they Will obviously spot it that the poster copied it and has no idea what he is saying.
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June 01, 2024, 05:17:47 PM
#22
We will have to accept the inevitable, one day it will not be stopped that is the direction technology is taking us. Eventually AI will be utilised to a level (or standard) where detection will be extremely difficult or near impossible. Even those AI posts that will end up getting flagged will have their authors contesting them protesting innocence.

Well, that means the only thing left for us is to continue detecting and reporting shitposting. As long as the forum keeps those rules in place and the mods are on the ball with reported stuff, we can definitely put up a good fight against AI-generated junk.  Speaking of which, it might be a good idea for mods to use sig-ban and temp-ban penalties more often for repeat offenders.
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June 01, 2024, 04:59:59 PM
#21
With all this talk of trying to prevent IA in the forum, how will it be prevented when it is indistinguishable from human writing?
If everyone had the same foresight as the smart minds among us do, they'd see this coming already before now...
If my memories serves me right, then I'd say I made a comment on the wild escalation and adaptation of AIs in a little time to come. Before the time, their existence was marked by a certain group of lazy minds that'd barely read a love novel, talk more of studying about "creative thinking"
Look what we've got today... A great way to double up the effort and stress any regular AI detector passes through.

Edit:
Why it's in Meta?
Ofcourse, it doesn't fit anywhere else my friend.
Hopefully someday this new problem created by AI will be resolved.
Sadly, there are no resolutions to this.
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June 01, 2024, 02:42:00 PM
#20
We will have to accept the inevitable, one day it will not be stopped that is the direction technology is taking us. Eventually AI will be utilised to a level (or standard) where detection will be extremely difficult or near impossible. Even those AI posts that will end up getting flagged will have their authors contesting them protesting innocence.

With all this talk of trying to prevent IA in the forum, how will it be prevented when it is indistinguishable from human writing?
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June 01, 2024, 02:21:22 PM
#19
With all this talk of trying to prevent IA in the forum, how will it be prevented when it is indistinguishable from human writing?


It is just like;
First, generating an AI text and asking the AI to rephrase the whole text but in this time adding some emotions to it. What's the difference between an AI generated text and a human written text. It is the emotion.

Secondly, if I wan to use AI to make post in the forum. That time that I will use to generate first AI written texts and still send it to another AI to humanize the texts, I should already have written my forum post and move my way.
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June 01, 2024, 12:15:46 PM
#18
Because, unless someone uses a high-performance tool, the AI ​​text will always be isolated from post to post, not creating a personality or being coherent from one post to the next. Therefore, it is not enough to observe the content of a single post, but rather the content of several user posts.

Actually, even the low-end tools are now offering several layers of context, so they can remember past posts they have made and make new posts in the same style.
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June 01, 2024, 10:37:54 AM
#17
I’m curious on how they will make a statement a humanizer statement. Is this tool purposely commit some minor wrong grammar or other minimal error on sentence structure just to look like a human because it’s really hilarious to think that AI is now downgrading just solve the too much AI problem happening right now.  Cheesy

It is basically paraphrasing, text spinning from an original content given by ChatGPT. Seriously if we are strict, we can say content given by ChatGPT is not original, it is more like secondary content. Because ChatGPT does its meta collection from many resources to compose its content so calling it original is not accurate.

Afaik this is still not a humanized sentence since it’s still constructed by an AI using a different method of reconstructing sentence.  Cheesy
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June 01, 2024, 10:24:24 AM
#16
Let's test it.
It is basically paraphrasing, text spinning from an original content given by ChatGPT. Seriously if we are strict, we can say content given by ChatGPT is not original, it is more like secondary content. Because ChatGPT does its meta collection from many resources to compose its content so calling it original is not accurate.

Now it's turn of HumanizeAI to do its paraphrasing, text spinning tasks and if AI detective tools fail, many plagiarism and abuse from HumanizeAI will be used in this forum. It's the end of human discussions here, we will have another level of fighting against AI abusers.

Posting quickly like actmyname will no longer big surprise.
How to write posts like a degenerate spammer
[EXPERIMENT] Testing the Limits of Shitposting

We will have escalating things like Posting like a degenerate AI spammers/ HumanizeAI spammers.

LOL
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June 01, 2024, 09:29:38 AM
#15
Why it's in Meta?
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June 01, 2024, 07:41:04 AM
#14
To what extent can these same tools also say that part of a text was written by AI, in a 100% human text?
These tools can be useful, but they are so fallible, like an AI tool trying to disguise a text.
I agree and this is the part they have been unable to crack. There's been 100% human text been classified as AI. In fact some people have had their essays and articles rejected because the reviewers didn't believe that they weren't AI written. Hopefully someday this new problem created by AI will be resolved.
'Resolved,' seem like a word that will lead to new initiatives and ideas for apps to be created so as to distinguish human essays from AI essays.

Still, considering the fact that most human text are almost as similar to AI text, I think we as humans should endeavor to make purposeful mistakes repeatedly in perhaps tenses or spelling of words so as to show we are humans, because I believe one reason why there's a confusion when trying to distinguish human from AI essays is the perfection that exists mostly in the scientific uses of tenses and grammar.
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June 01, 2024, 07:04:49 AM
#13
To what extent can these same tools also say that part of a text was written by AI, in a 100% human text?
These tools can be useful, but they are so fallible, like an AI tool trying to disguise a text.
I agree and this is the part they have been unable to crack. There's been 100% human text been classified as AI. In fact some people have had their essays and articles rejected because the reviewers didn't believe that they weren't AI written. Hopefully someday this new problem created by AI will be resolved.
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June 01, 2024, 06:58:59 AM
#12
Some AI detector tools are already robust and sophisticated enough to detect text content written or humanized by AI, while others are not. As you can see from the small test I ran, the humanizerAI doesn't work.

To what extent can these same tools also say that part of a text was written by AI, in a 100% human text?
These tools can be useful, but they are so fallible, like an AI tool trying to disguise a text.
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June 01, 2024, 06:38:49 AM
#11
AI to detect AI to humanize by AI. The AI show lol.

 Grin LOL

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Don't worry guys, Bitcoin will beat A.I. for real. This clown show is going on for too long.
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June 01, 2024, 06:30:48 AM
#10
For all I know, it’s another marketing strategy. Just like how you can create a computer virus and also create an anti-virus. The market just never ends, it’s a growing field and the developers are at the end of it, benefiting from what they can off a good marketing strategy.

Perhaps it might work for sometime and after a while, we would find another Anti-Humanized AI text detector that would simply work by some algorithm to reverse codes to get the original or something. Hope you get to recommend them when found though but until then, the forum would have to phase the fight with having less and less low life users who deem themselves dumb enough for AI to do their bidding.
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June 01, 2024, 06:24:36 AM
#9
Let's test it.

1. I gave the most popular AI software, ChatGPT a prompt.

Write something about bitcoin in 1000 characters only-

The outcome:
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Bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency, created in 2009 by an unknown person or group using the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. It operates on a peer-to-peer network, allowing users to send and receive payments without relying on a central authority like a bank. Transactions are verified by network nodes through cryptography and recorded in a public distributed ledger called a blockchain.

Bitcoin is lauded for its potential to offer financial freedom, lower transaction costs, and provide a hedge against traditional financial systems. Its supply is limited to 21 million coins, creating a deflationary model. Despite its benefits, Bitcoin faces criticism for its price volatility, regulatory uncertainties, and its use in illicit activities. It has sparked significant interest and investment, influencing the creation of thousands of other cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin continues to be a topic of debate and innovation within the financial world, representing a groundbreaking shift towards digital and decentralized financial systems.

2. Next up. I used the https://www.humanizeai.io/

The outcome:
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Bitcoin, a decentralized digital currency, was made in 2009 by somebody with the name Satoshi Nakamoto. This network works through a peer-to-peer way where people can make transactions without necessarily using intermediates such as banks. Nodes on this network verify that indeed all transactions have been done in valid ways via cryptography before being recorded on a shared ledger that is publically distributed and known as the blockchain.

Bitcoin has been praised as a champion of financial autonomy, lower fees on transactions, and an alternative defense in opposition to traditional monetary systems. The overall number of Bitcoins that would ever be mined is capped at twenty-one million, resulting in a deflationary approach. Conversely, Price instability, regulatory doubts, and being utilized as a medium for illegal deeds have stood as points of contention directed towards the use of Bitcoin. It has generated huge curiosity and investment leading to a rise in thousands of alternative digital currencies. Bitcoin remains a subject of discussion and fresh ideas within the finance sphere, such that it constitutes a revolutionary progression towards the digital or disintegrated financial platforms.

3. Next up. I used 6 AI content detector tools to check -
quillbot - result - 0% of text is likely AI-generated
Copyleaks - result - This is human text
Writer -result - 100% HUMAN-GENERATED CONTENT
Contentdetector.ai - result  - 43.75% is AI-generated(this was only the first sentence in the first paragraph)
Writefull - result - 40% likely this comes from GPT-3, GPT-4 or ChatGPT.
Content at scale - result- the text is likely written by ai.

Some AI detector tools are already robust and sophisticated enough to detect text content written or humanized by AI, while others are not. As you can see from the small test I ran, the humanizerAI doesn't work.
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June 01, 2024, 05:27:03 AM
#8
I believe that the real differentiating point will be the coherence between texts. The AI ​​will generate each text individually, and not as an individual person who has a pattern of feelings, tastes, attitudes, etc.

For example, in a post the IA may write that he loves eating apples. But 10 posts later he can already say that he hates apples and that he is allergic.
Even before AI become popular, there have been many users who contradict what they said or probably they have Dissociative Identity Disorder.

Those users will say people need to use decentralized exchange due to privacy and non custodial wallet to hold coins, but if you check their post history, they actually use Binance as their wallet. Not sure how should the forum react with those kind of users since they're not breaking any rules.
legendary
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June 01, 2024, 03:47:10 AM
#7
I believe the emotions in humans text can be only hope to combat against AI generated text. I know that AI generated text could also contain some emotion elements but those can't match the emotions that humans feel during writing.

I believe that the real differentiating point will be the coherence between texts. The AI ​​will generate each text individually, and not as an individual person who has a pattern of feelings, tastes, attitudes, etc.

For example, in a post the IA may write that he loves eating apples. But 10 posts later he can already say that he hates apples and that he is allergic.
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June 01, 2024, 03:36:44 AM
#6
With all this talk of trying to prevent IA in the forum, how will it be prevented when it is indistinguishable from human writing?
It will not be possible when AI reaches the writing ability of humans but as of now most AI generated text can be easily detected with AI text detectors but after programs like that things may change in future. All of those people who know that AI generated text is worst type of spam understand that in future AI generated text can be indistinguishable from human written text.

I believe the emotions in humans text can be only hope to combat against AI generated text. I know that AI generated text could also contain some emotion elements but those can't match the emotions that humans feel during writing.

AI generated text is so good at its current levels that for a normal human it's hard to differentiate between AI generated text and human written text, only the program that are created to detect such text are good at detecting AI generated text but things will change when the AI generated text reaches to the point where it's exactly like human text, and at that money it will be harm for such programs to detect AI generated text.
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June 01, 2024, 03:31:23 AM
#5
I'm not sure if you're joking or serious, if you're joking then we don't have to worry since Humanize AI can't really humanizing AI text because when I try on AI generated text, the AI detectors still detect it as an AI.

But, this is just their first form, we don't know what will happen in the next 5 years.

If we already reach to the time where we can't distinguish between AI text and human text, we can still able to judge the quality.

I understand and appreciate your viewpoint. It is indeed crucial to approach decision-making with caution, considering individual needs and preferences. Conducting thorough research, considering personal requirements, and reading reviews from various sources can provide valuable insights to make an informed decision. It's important to remember that while Binance has notable security measures and advantages, it's essential to assess other exchanges as well to find the best fit for your specific trading needs.

Copyleaks: AI content detected
Hive: 100% likely to be AI-generated
Sapling: 99.9% fake



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"I understand and appreciate your perspective. It is true that when it comes to decision-making, caution is always paramount trying to cater to everyone’s tastes and preferences. Comprehensive research, thinking through personal requirements as well as having a glance at different reviews available, provides valuable information needed for decision making. It is worth noting that Binance may be highly secure with some notable benefits; however, everyone is required to check out other exchanges to identify the best one."

Copyleaks: AI content detected
Hive: 99.4% likely to be AI-generated
Sapling: 99.6% fake
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June 01, 2024, 03:24:16 AM
#4
When there were no AI writing tools, there were no popular tools to detect those AI write-ups, so it will also be a matter of time before there is a tool that will help separate the humanised write-up from a real human write-up.
 
One thing about Ai write-up, especially in the comment section, is that they most times give their view off key. Let's just watch how it goes, that's if some are not already using it without being detected.
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June 01, 2024, 03:21:37 AM
#3
With all this talk of trying to prevent IA in the forum, how will it be prevented when it is indistinguishable from human writing?

But I always said that it would be very difficult to distinguish original human text from AI text. The only way to minimize this is to remain attentive to what each user says/does, to understand whether it is something original or not.

Because, unless someone uses a high-performance tool, the AI ​​text will always be isolated from post to post, not creating a personality or being coherent from one post to the next. Therefore, it is not enough to observe the content of a single post, but rather the content of several user posts.

This will require a lot more work and greater attention from all of us. But, there is not much more that can be done.

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June 01, 2024, 03:18:40 AM
#2
AI to detect AI to humanize by AI. The AI show lol.
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June 01, 2024, 03:15:56 AM
#1
With all this talk of trying to prevent IA in the forum, how will it be prevented when it is indistinguishable from human writing?

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