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Quote from: LoyceV on November 26, 2017, 04:36:21 AM

Quote from: BTC-Graphicdesigns on November 16, 2017, 02:34:29 PM

He lied about copy & pasting in a sig. campaign. Apparently he forgot.... yeah right forgot my ass.

I've seen people fail at quoting before. Say the line above wouldn't be in a quote, but I respond right under it, just like I do now.
It would look like this:

If a Newbie posts like this, I don't instantly assume he has bad intentions. After first reading Lone Shark's red trust, I've been trying to imagine if it would be possible for me too, to accidentally mess up a quote so much that it can be turned into a copy.
I often copy/paste my posts together with multiple quotes as sources, pasting them all into the same post. It sometimes fails with nested quotes, and for that reason I check my own post again.
I think it's very unlikely to let an accidental verbatim copy/paste slip through, but given enough posts made by enough people, it can happen eventually.

That's a possibility. Anyway, don't you think that there should be some traces left that will help identify whether that "user just accidentally messed up a quote?" Maybe a bracket left or a message down below as an added detail, reaction or response to the quoted text? As I see it, the exact same thing is copied and no traces can be seen that it is "supposedly" a quote. Also, I see no reason why he would just quote it with no text down below (unlike in some occasions where you just quote it and no necessary text down below). Reiterate in behalf of that user? I don't think so.

I also do that: entertaining all possibilties I can think of. It is a good thing actually and there is nothing wrong with it. There is a mystery/thriller writer who said, "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains however improbable, must be the truth." He applies that to his "detective" stories and I think it suits the context that I'm trying to convey.

Quote from: LoyceV on November 26, 2017, 04:36:21 AM

Quote from: dillpicklechips on November 21, 2017, 08:53:16 PM

Afaik, Loan Shark is the only one who has been given a second chance of breaking the copy-paste rule which really is a permanent ban

I've seen people get away with it before.

Oh well... Maybe hilariousandco missed it? Even though there are exceptions like in Lone Shark's case, there should be a red trust in s1lverbox's profile. It would be quiet unfair. I didn't read the entire case whether you had compromised to settle this issue that's why you didn't left him (or other DT members) a negative trust.

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Quote from: BTC-Graphicdesigns on November 16, 2017, 02:34:29 PM

He lied about copy & pasting in a sig. campaign. Apparently he forgot.... yeah right forgot my ass.

I've seen people fail at quoting before. Say the line above wouldn't be in a quote, but I respond right under it, just like I do now.
It would look like this:

If a Newbie posts like this, I don't instantly assume he has bad intentions. After first reading Lone Shark's red trust, I've been trying to imagine if it would be possible for me too, to accidentally mess up a quote so much that it can be turned into a copy.
I often copy/paste my posts together with multiple quotes as sources, pasting them all into the same post. It sometimes fails with nested quotes, and for that reason I check my own post again.
I think it's very unlikely to let an accidental verbatim copy/paste slip through, but given enough posts made by enough people, it can happen eventually.

Quote from: dillpicklechips on November 21, 2017, 08:53:16 PM

Afaik, Loan Shark is the only one who has been given a second chance of breaking the copy-paste rule which really is a permanent ban

I've seen people get away with it before.

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In my eyes copy/pasting is a serious crime.
You been enrolled in a sig. campaign to work, promote honestly and you have already taken one of the spot.
Spots are limited, if you haven't taken the spot than someone honest, genuine poster may have enrolled into that campaign.

What do you guys think, you will begin to cheat, break the rules and no one will watch you? Truth always wins, and you will get f***ed one day.

Regarding lone shark loan service,
Let the borrowers decide whether to loan from him or not, whether to trust him or not. Our discussion is useless here.

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Quote from: BlackMambaPH on November 21, 2017, 08:31:11 PM

Maybe this user's alt denied in Lone Shark Lending Service IMO just like what his saying Lone Shark is a scammer and Liar without any proof.

Anyway, I'm also one of the active borrower of Lone Shark Lending Service we've done many transaction and I felt sorry what happen to his account. Admin (Cyrus if I'm not mistaken) gives him a second chance and hopefully, hilariousandco also change his rating to neutral. I mean give a second chance. Cheesy

That loan service exists because he didn't get caught... it doesn't count.

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Quote from: dillpicklechips on November 21, 2017, 08:53:16 PM

Quote from: BlackMambaPH on November 21, 2017, 08:31:11 PM

Maybe this user's alt denied in Lone Shark Lending Service IMO just like what his saying Lone Shark is a scammer and Liar without any proof.

Anyway, I'm also one of the active borrower of Lone Shark Lending Service we've done many transaction and I felt sorry what happen to his account. Admin (Cyrus if I'm not mistaken) gives him a second chance and hopefully, hilariousandco also change his rating to neutral. I mean give a second chance. Cheesy

I doubt that hilariousandco would do that. I see hilariousandco's reasoning as valid (if you ever read his rating). Anyway, Lone Shark had many successful lending history which these people can vouch for his services. The trust issue is not associated with his lending services so it doesn't directly affect it. Shorena have a neg trust from a DT member but still is trusted by many likewise in Lauda's case. In the end, it depends on the person as how will he perceive the trust ratings that have been given.

Afaik, Loan Shark is the only one who has been given a second chance of breaking the copy-paste rule which really is a permanent ban and hilariousandco has been very firm and unbiased. I also understand Cyrus' reasoning. Regarding the state of Lone Shark's account, I think it is the most appropriate thing to handle this case.

This Cyrus guy, isn't that the same Cyrus from the Cryptsy Exchange back in the days?

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Quote from: BlackMambaPH on November 21, 2017, 08:31:11 PM

Maybe this user's alt denied in Lone Shark Lending Service IMO just like what his saying Lone Shark is a scammer and Liar without any proof.

Anyway, I'm also one of the active borrower of Lone Shark Lending Service we've done many transaction and I felt sorry what happen to his account. Admin (Cyrus if I'm not mistaken) gives him a second chance and hopefully, hilariousandco also change his rating to neutral. I mean give a second chance. Cheesy

I doubt that hilariousandco would do that. I see hilariousandco's reasoning as valid (if you ever read his rating). Anyway, Lone Shark had many successful lending history which these people can vouch for his services. The trust issue is not associated with his lending services so it doesn't directly affect it. Shorena have a neg trust from a DT member but still is trusted by many likewise in Lauda's case. In the end, it depends on the person as how will he perceive the trust ratings that have been given.

Afaik, Loan Shark is the only one who has been given a second chance of breaking the copy-paste rule which really is a permanent ban and hilariousandco has been very firm and unbiased. I also understand Cyrus' reasoning. Regarding the state of Lone Shark's account, I think it is the most appropriate thing to handle this case.

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Maybe this user's alt denied in Lone Shark Lending Service IMO just like what his saying Lone Shark is a scammer and Liar without any proof.

Anyway, I'm also one of the active borrower of Lone Shark Lending Service we've done many transaction and I felt sorry what happen to his account. Admin (Cyrus if I'm not mistaken) gives him a second chance and hopefully, hilariousandco also change his rating to neutral. I mean give a second chance. Cheesy

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Quote from: timerland on November 17, 2017, 06:53:31 PM

His copy pasting should have led to a ban, no doubt about that. I'm not sure why they let him off the hook because that would create a precedent that everyone else will think that they will get away with copy pasting too.

The neg is deserved, however that should not be a reason to not use his loaning service.

His loan service is good, he has held lots of collateral without issue, he can be trusted for that.

Nothing makes sense on this Forum. I mean take Lauda for example. She is a proven liar and blackmailer and still has the privilage of DT Trust member.

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Quote from: timerland on November 17, 2017, 06:53:31 PM

His copy pasting should have led to a ban, no doubt about that. I'm not sure why they let him off the hook because that would create a precedent that everyone else will think that they will get away with copy pasting too.

The neg is deserved, however that should not be a reason to not use his loaning service.

His loan service is good, he has held lots of collateral without issue, he can be trusted for that.

Yeah, copy/pasting is copy/pasting and deserves a ban. If he got caught when he should have back then, his loan service would not exist, so he can't use it as an excuse to try to avoid getting banned.

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His copy pasting should have led to a ban, no doubt about that. I'm not sure why they let him off the hook because that would create a precedent that everyone else will think that they will get away with copy pasting too.

The neg is deserved, however that should not be a reason to not use his loaning service.

His loan service is good, he has held lots of collateral without issue, he can be trusted for that.

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Quote from: onnz423 on November 17, 2017, 02:14:53 AM

Lone Shark is one of the most professional and reputable people that i have dealt with. He might have done some shady stuff in the past, but that does not change the fact that people do change their ways sometimes.
Why are you so salthy tho? Did he deny one of your non-collateral loans or what's up? No matter that he has negative trust, he will still continue the lending services for sure.

I never asked for a loan. I don't need a shitty micro loan from loan shark cause I got tons of ETN coins locked up in the wallet until the guys from Hackerone finish their job.

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Quote from: onnz423 on November 17, 2017, 02:14:53 AM

Lone Shark is one of the most professional and reputable people that i have dealt with. He might have done some shady stuff in the past, but that does not change the fact that people do change their ways sometimes.
Why are you so salthy tho? Did he deny one of your non-collateral loans or what's up? No matter that he has negative trust, he will still continue the lending services for sure.

I dont know loan shark (so it is not necessarily directed at him) but come on this is the internet please try to use your brains.
A shady guy/scammer should never be trusted if you like your money.

A second chance on the interwebz is only something for hardcore christians...

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Lone Shark is one of the most professional and reputable people that i have dealt with. He might have done some shady stuff in the past, but that does not change the fact that people do change their ways sometimes.
Why are you so salthy tho? Did he deny one of your non-collateral loans or what's up? No matter that he has negative trust, he will still continue the lending services for sure.

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Quote from: actmyname on November 16, 2017, 10:13:30 AM

When was Lone Shark either a scammer or a liar?
(insert citation here)

He lied about copy & pasting in a sig. campaign. Apparently he forgot.... yeah right forgot my ass.
Hence that makes him a scammer, trying to cheat a sig. campaign because of his greed!

Check the reference link in his negative trust. Next time, before you open your mouth, read the reference link.

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Quote from: actmyname on November 16, 2017, 10:13:30 AM

When was Lone Shark either a scammer or a liar?
(insert citation here)

When was BTC-Graphicdesigns making sensible statements about something or someone?

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When was Lone Shark either a scammer or a liar?
(insert citation here)

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Hahaha

Finally this wanna-be Forum Police officer has gotten negative trust. Tried to lie and wiggel his way out of it but it didn't help!

Guess your lending days are over creep!!!

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