Topic: Looking for an investor, everything is planned. (Read 451 times)

I strongly agree with you that op is a newbie and to a strangers words, no one will be interested to invest 10000$. If there was a good track record then people could consider the case and by that situation, they could be interested to invest on the so-called project.

It's looks interesting but am still not convinced you have no strong reputation yet and is too much of a risk to invest with 10000$ into your project.
Since you sure of making profit why not go get a loan from the bank or somewhere and get into business

It seems like a lending post without any collateral. Anyway, any investor or investors will not invest such an amount for the request of a newbie account holder. Better try to take help from your local people I think that will be the better choice of you.

May be you can send the details here to make sure everything is transparant so nothing to hide here. With a good market and support I believe everything is going to be good but to create anything like PvP based games is somehow quite hard in bitcoin world. Eventhough you have really good markerting, it is hard to maintain them to keep on staying on Pvp based games

Do you mind send me the details? May be I would like to try it then see how its work

Thank you for that. As I've been adviced by the most of the members I've created a new thread and you can find it here. Hope everything works decent from now on and you can read it all.

If any of you have any questions you can ask me over there and I'll reply at the with pleasure. Please do not come over there in order to assume things, ask first and if you're right I will not be a cocky guy and will happily agree with you.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gambling-website-project-looking-for-crowfunding-investment-5102169 Here is the link of the project.

Your project looks good well that is obviously on paper am hoping that it's as good as you tell but in another thought this is the wrong section for this why not try the service board

You are right about a few things and as I've read all the comments I've understood that this is not the right place and I'll close this thread in order to make a decent on into crowfunding.
Also I am not insisting in cursing people, I am just had a bad behaviour and reaction to the people who assume they know everything and do the maths better than me. If they are math teachers they should let me know but I'm sure they are not mediums in their free time, if you know what I mean.

I will start a crowfunding project and will make a thread with all the informations you are looking for.
Thank you for the support(To those who gave me an advice or a decent critic on the post) and thank you to the mediums who know everything aswell, you should go play lottery since you know everything aswell. I'm not unprofessional but i go by a quote: "Give respect to earn respect"

Have a good one y'all.

Many people told you the same thing but you insist on cursing at them and saying horrible things to them instead. You can not just expect people to reach out to you and learn why they should invest their 10 thousand dollars with you.

We all know that is a lot of money and you must realize it more than others since you are the one who needs it but then you say "well find me and ask me if you want to be a part of this" and leave, its not acceptable in bitcointalk where many people where scammed. You may not be a scammer (I think you do not look like a scammer at all, you do look like a professional) however your attitude and your reactions to people and your lack of information just puts many people away.

I suggest you create a funding round and instead of looking for 10 thousand dollars from one person give many people right to invest as little as 1 satoshi if they want and that way it will be easier to reach your 10 thousand dollars because many people will say "its just 100 dollars whats the worst could happen" and invest instead of just one guy putting all 10 thousand dollars into it.

Think about that option, it will probably work the best for you, but when you do that please provide ALL information and all graphics and basically EVERYTHING you can present please put it up so people will know what they are investing into without trying to talk to you about it.

Thank you!
The support team I have it already, the web development company I have it already.
I've got people who would wish to work as moderator for me from different countries since I want to have a support in many languages.
I've got marketing mangers which were part of the gambling websites.

It is logical looking for investors for proven strategy with successful records but some industries are not suitable with idea of minimized risks and maximized rewards. Gambling with other people's money requires strong mental,emotional sustainability which can be hard to keep under control when someone else's money involved in gambling.

You could open your thread in long-term loans section, maybe chances would be higher there but to my mind, in any way it will be hard for you to find investor. Casino isn't only put money and get profit, you need dedicated servers, team of developers, take care of money laundering and so on.
Do you have this team? This is basic information which you had to include in your topic to get people interested in. You can just ignore critics if you want, at least that will bump your thread if nothing, see a little positive.

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Your idea (player to player) is good. But 10k USD is just nothing.  You have to spend a lot of money for security, servers and then marketing.  Moreover no one will blindly trust you and invest 10k USD on your ideas here.  There are many big players in the market and its not that easy to succeed in this industry. I am not discouraging you. Your intentions may be good or bad. God alone knows that. But here people will not trust any one so easily.  I personally got scammed in this forum couple of times.  You can try to fish the investors in some other place (if your intentions are really god).

First of all you're one like the others who are just spreading stupidity.
Since you're a god and know it all,like the 1% fee you're used to, who said this project will have a 1% fee?
If it's a coinflip player vs player what kind of proof do you need?
Some of you do not deserve the rank you have since you're so thicc minded. Do something with your life instead of involving in subjects you are not informed about.

In the gambling industry, people simply say that they can double the investment or get high returns in much shorter time period. One who has known well about the gambling industry will never fall for such promises. Because, in the same gambling industry lot of websites have gone bankrupt in no time just because of their lacking in some plans and execution thinking it a simple process.

Seriously this is not the place to ask for investors at all, this is the gamblers side. This is the place where you people to come join on your new casino and play there with some deposit bonus and what not, this is the place to gather all gamblers at once place and than promote your new place or even the old place. However, if you are looking for an investor, do you really think any investor would be willing to invest can actually exists among gamblers ?

I mean anyone who is rich enough to invest 10 thousand dollars (which is A LOT OF money for most parts of the world) can exist in gambling section without losing all of his money? Anyone who doesn't mind investing 10 thousand dollars for something this shady looking needs to be a millionaire and to be fair they do not become millionaires by investing into unknown stuff.

I have seen so many such claims and we are all experienced enough to know that there is no such thing as guaranteed profit. Especially not if you can get back 10k in PROFIT in 3 months. Look at all the gambling sites here with so many years of experience,,, 10k in a month took them many years. And to get that amount at 1% house edge means you need people to gamble 1 million dollars. Sure, you can achieve this after years but after 3 months? And you claim this is player vs player. You want to show us some proof first? You cannot.

Maybe because you are new to this forum so as many people just make negative comments about what you want in this thread.

Just a suggestion, when you have a purport , especially one that ends in money thing then made what you want by being transparent. Show the concept that you have and what you are doing until everyone understands what you are doing, how you/team work and finally this forum will assess the good and bad of what you are doing. I think it's quite simple for you, compared to just bringing everyone who wants to join you and only using personal chat to describe the concept you have, I guess it's not transparent and undesirable by this forum.

Well then if that's the case, like I said, you can try targeting audience outside crypto community.

You said that:

"I'm known by CSGOReaper Owner, CSGOEmpire owners, Gamdom owners and CSGOHunt owners. Whoever was involved into the CS:GO Gambling know this sites and I personally can manage to get you in touch with the owners and let you know what I've did for them and how did I help them. I know a lot background information from them and I'd like to keep it private."

Why not seek assistance from them? Or the community they belong to? For sure they will be interested on your concept and plus the fact that they know you.

It's really difficult to find an investor here especially with the current crypto market behaviour. Most crypto users preferred to just do trades and not to risk money on anything except on a well established and reputable site. Even project ICOs with good roadmaps on which is a pure crypto related thing failed most of the time when doing a crowdfund.

Im not here to argue with you just to be clear. I just want to enlighten you that I doubt someone will invest on your project.

Thank you for your reply and I do know 10.000 USD is not a joke. E-sports are something else and we're not related to E-sports. The Gambling website will have crypto deposits and withdrawals.
CS:GO Gambling was about esports at a point and still is but the coinflip is not related to any kind of esports. I've been in the E-sports gambling if you want to call it like that but the people who gambled in the CS:GO websites didn't care about what games of CS:GO are playing or what championships are there, they wanted skins or money. So people will want Crypto or pure cash and that's why they will gamble.
I have a team of youtubers which have very good affiliate numbers related to crypto and also have studied the crypto gambling youtubers and picked up a few.

So the idea is that this is not a E-sports gambling website or E-sports matching gambling website. It's pure coinflip, head or tails.
The hardest thing is to get the population from 0 to 1 and from there you can work it out.

E-sports related gambling system is not that appealing to anyone here. There are some but not that much. As far as my own analyzation is concern, crypto gambling users are not that really into e-sports.

$10,000 amount is not a joke so you can't just say to investors that it will be a success after 3 months and they can expect profit after that. That's why others will surely not be interested to the offer. It's a pure "gamble". Even how well structured your plan is, people will not just put money on it.

You can target audience outside crypto world like on an online game community forum if you are really serious. This is a crypto forum and testing the waters here will not be effective.

Dear all,

I do not know who this Patatas is or why he's so angry at me.
I did nothing wrong and he is misleading people into something I did not. I'm working as an affiliate sales manager for a web development company which worked with Fortune500 companies and whoever messaged me about that post got the right response and also the feedback they requested.
I work as an affiliate sales manager and try to get some costumers in order to get some% of the whole project. That's not something wrong as I know, I'm not very familiar with this forums and its members but some of them are hating you from the start because you have a new account, weren't you all in the same position at a point when you've come across here in the first time?

I never take the critics as a bad thing, I take it and build something on it.
Thank you for all the support and it appears you are not all that "bad", you're just mocking me because of your past experiences or because this happened in the past with scammers, I get it now.
I didn't want to post it here because I was thinking someone would start and make it real.

So here is the idea and then the very detailed informations are given to the interested ones.
I am interested in creating a gambling website with PvP games which is most used into CS:GO Gambling,
The coinflip was one of the most loves games of all times and from sources they were doing even 40.000 $ in skins each day which can be evaluated at around 27.500 $ per day.
Why would I have success and others would not in this?
I've got the designers ready,I've got a team of youtubers which would make a partnership with the site in order to receive % / month during the first 6 months and they get content for it.
I've got a team of moderators and live support which would work for me with no hessitation.
The site will be simple and I'm looking for that much because I'm interested to give it a pump at the start then once we launched I'm interested in investing all the profit into marketing untill we hit a certain amount of profit per day. The comission would be much lower then alll the gambling websites that has this game.
I have a excel document with all the plans and all the marketing steps we should take and how much each of the steps costs and how it could benefit us. I am gonna invest the profit aswell to make it very comfortable for each gambler to deposit in the easiest way possible.
I was a gambler myself since January 2018. I don't think it was a great decision in my life to do that with my money but I've become broke and I really want to do something with my life and I'm trying very hard and this is basically my dream ever since I've started to be a part of the gambling community, online or offline.

If you're really interested or someone wants to vouch for me you could send me a message over telegram and I'll give you all the documents.
I do not need you to send me the money. If you want I will let you know in what you're money will be invested so you know and you'll do the payment itself.

I'm known by CSGOReaper Owner, CSGOEmpire owners, Gamdom owners and CSGOHunt owners. Whoever was involved into the CS:GO Gambling know this sites and I personally can manage to get you in touch with the owners and let you know what I've did for them and how did I help them. I know a lot background information from them and I'd like to keep it private.

I've posted it here because I am new to the forum and saw "Investments" and I was thinking it was the right place but thank you for letting me know and thank you for the support and the criticism.
I've never seen a positive or a decent response that's why I was so down about this community.

Lol , OP was the one that asked 10 THOUSAND DOLLARS for 10% of his not existent company, that is 10 THOUSAND DOLLARS for something that doesn't exist and you only get %10. Here he is talking about how much of a big mistake we are making by not investing into him without seeing any information, well provide the information than. You are liable for all the information you give not us to go out and take it.

If you think its a mistake we don't ask for more information that is because we don't need more information, you need to give it to us. It's your job to make sure your investors knows everything before they invest into you  otherwise they will just mock you like we all did, if you have given much more information maybe you wouldn't have this trouble to begin with. Next time when you are making a topic like this, give the information instead of waiting for others to ask for it.

no need to be butthurt, mate
I will be very happy for you if you prove the community wrong
yet the initial approach of yours is wrong on so many levels
you came to a forum and asking for a 10.000$ worth of investment without giving proper initial information (not even talking about collateral here since there is none or you would not be asking for money first place) and asking to go to chat with you in tele
you , probably, do not realize how many scammers use the same tactics to scam the gullible
and I already mentioned that the section you should have posted at is called Project and development, serious people there  would have asked proper questions
here , in gambling section ,all you be getting is doubt and ostracizing and crappy posts to pad the stats
deserved or not its a completely different matter
if you want to succeed- do the right things to succeed

You are not considering the MASSIVE amount of scam attempts that are made day by day on this forum. No one is gonna risk a penny without decent collaterals.

I agree with your points. Op is clearly not making any sense with most of his statements which is why I would not advise investing any money into this casino.

Guaranteed returns itself is the primary reason why I feel this is not legit in any manner whatsoever.

On top of this, op does not seem to have any sort of experience in the casino world as you stated which is another reason to stay away from this site.

I think this section of the forum is gambling section and you will not get the right audience by posting about investments and Crowdfunding here.  However,  the money you are looking for to fund the project is a small amount but the trusting system online has makes many people not to give such money to developers.

You are free to post all of the necessary information. Guess what? You did not write anything. what do you think if everyone here asks 10k because they have a brilliant idea, and everyone gets that money?
plus when you try to find investors, you need to post this on the right corner of this forum. I certainly think that someone who has this money will not just share it because of nice words.
stay strong and keep trying or try to earn, and then you won't need to share profit.

@All,

I'm done with this forum.
Every time I'm trying to do something I'm judged by people who doesn't ask for any kind of information.
Which of you even messaged me on telegram so you can hear what I'd have to say regarding that?
Which one of you asked for the references and even the portofolio of the web developing company among with the references? None of you.
Once i'll have the site even if it is gonna take a bit more and it'll have success I'll bump up this post so you can remember your mistake and even if it will take years you'll eventually apologize.

Wish you all the best,
Great community trying to help others realise something in their life,
Great human behaviour,
Great respect,
Keep it up!

it is not something unheard of to invest in a decent project
and 10.000$ is small change for a gambling site
the problem is ... this is not a decent gambling site, not a proper way to look for investments and 99.99% chance
whoever is brave enough to get involved with this guy will be scammed
if he was serious, he would post in the projects section and at least gave some details

You won't get that amount of money without a decent collateral of at least 120% of what you are asking. Please don't waste your time.

LOL. You really expect someone to give you $10,000? Why don't you provide your references over here so that we can judge on scale of 1 to 10 how "scammy" you are. Post everything here. Don't do it through telegram. Keep everything transparent. Oh wait, you won't do that, since we won't let you lure some poor guy who will fall for your shit.  

someone should tag this guy , asking for investors while user is newbie isn't less bad than asking for a loan without collateral
if I had an idea about something that will make me loads of money guaranteed I would sell my house and my car instead of searching for partners that will share the profits with me

so it doesn't make sense to ask for help when the project only needs 10K$ ( since you are 100% sure it will have huge success )

My very first concern is what is the point of not giving more detail about what you want to do with this money? I mean, this money is a lot and never explain what are you going to do with them. I would never get in touch with someone who asks for money and he doesn't explain his plan in public. Apart from that, there are many other flags like your posts history for example that doesn't make you trustworthy.

There are so many red flags here that I don't know where to begin with. First of all anyone that knows how the gambling works and worked in couple casinos would know that 10 thousand dollars is nothing in a gambling environment, even a proper pen test for security costs that much, if you are not spending that into security of your website then you are looking into a website that is bound to get hacked eventually.

Get a company full of professional pen testers to try to get into your website 7/24 for a month with that money and make sure it works. Also if you had worked in many places you should have a network of people with both money and casino experience so they should be helping you out as well. I mean there are many more but anyone who asks for 10 thousand dollars for a pvp casino already kinda shows how it won't work so we don't need more.

I think that most of you here are aware when someone promises guaranteed returns with a specific timeframe should think many times before proceeding.

Fellas, this cunt was a marketing manager for fortune 500 companies in his previous posts and now he claims to be involved in the gambling community since ages lol You fuckin scamming twat get the fuck away from the forum. There is no place for shitbags like you here. Stop making fun of yourself no one is taking you seriously. Your days are done on the forum lol

You are in the gambling community like a gambler or worked behind the house? there is a big difference Especially important when lending money.

Dear All,

I am in the online gambling community since Nov 2010.
I've been a marketing manager and a community manager at a few sites which can be provided with references @Telegram.
I'm seeking for a investor or a group of people who'd like to invest into my project. The full details will be given @Telegram.
The amount I'm looking for is 10.000 USD for 10% of the project. You'll get your money back in less then 3 months and you'll be able to gain profit after it.
I'm gonna give you full details regarding what I'm doing with the money, you'll be a part of the investor team,you'll get much higher rate of the profits untill you get your investment back so it's gonna be most likely earlier then you'll expect.
I know 101% what the gamblers are looking for, we're not gonna do a Player vs House game, we will have a Player vs Player game so the investors cannot lose any money if a player wins.


@AnythingByExcelsior on Telegram

Best regards,
Excelsior