Topic: Looking for investors. (Read 1227 times)

Yeah i shouldnt present over confidence it seems cocky and pretty disrespectful to the potential investors who would be considering investing their money carefully.

To address your other points:

I need to check my exact numbers but i say im pretty much guaranteed to make ROI (on the trading platform) because of having a 95% (?) success rate and having a reasonable size volume (100 executions over 5-6 months).   With a 95% edge on 100 rolls of a dice the odds of losing long term must be insignificant.   I do need to confirm but its very high must be over 90% edge.   There are risks but i really feel they are associated with exchanges going rouge, and other risks = a hacking to my own personal computer and into my trading account.

Large periods of 0% ROI could be possible if market isnt moving.  I think i can return 50-100% in 1 year.  1 issue could be a large unforeseen BTC bubble (like china), if thats the case the investor would be better off buying and holding.  I could have a instant cashout option if the investor wants to go all in on BTC. (example ebay has announced they are accepting BTC).  This isnt an issue as in the investor loses money, its just there is more to gain by buy and hold in this scenario.  

As regards why dont i trade my cold storage? its basically the risk of the exchange taking my money (the money stays in exchange 24/7 - note i use the premier exchanges only), when i say im not touching my cold storage stash what i really mean is im only happy to touch say 20%.   Losing 30 btc in MtGox has made me very cautious, investors should also be cautious about putting money into exchanges.

Another thing to consider on cold storage is im very bullish on BTC long term, if some random china style bubble comes along i dont want to be in USD. I need to trade between USD, BTC and some alts to.

20% of my cold storage does not maximize the returns i/we could gain, i feel i could potentially work with around 100-200BTC which is larger then 20% of my cold storage.

Im not an expert trader as previously stated, i cannot predict the time of next bubble or how high we might go.  If you think we are about to go to the moon any minute now on BTC its best to buy and hold, maybe diversifying only a small amount incase you are wrong?.

These two posts contradict each other. First of all, this level of confidence scares me away from investing. You pretty much straight out say that you're guaranteed to make profit. Let me just be clear: there IS a risk when trading, however big or small. You're not 100% guaranteed a profit. If you're so overly confident like this, then you would go all-in on everything you have, there's no reason to have a long-term holding.

Why would you have a cold storage, when losing trades just doesn't happen?

This is the first time i have ever pitched for investment so maybe i need to improve, thanks for grilling.


I really feel to the best of my perception that the highest risk by far is using the exchanges - this is not the same for everyone.  Yes it is my perception though you are right.  

I made around 100 executions of my strategy in last 5-6 months and around 95% have been profitable. The other 5% are either break even or very tiny loss.  I'd need to confirm exact figures, I dont know how i should present this information?  


Point taken, unless i can find a large pro crypto investor who wants to know more then yes i agree with you and will have to consider a decent presentation and multiple small investors.

So because you have not gone wrong in the past, that makes you believe you are good enough to take random strangers money (dumb enough to give it) and keep using your strategy.

Sorry I should not keep replying.. I will scare away the investors.

Last thing.. if you provided anything it would be better than nothing, and yes it can be faked... but at least it is something for people to look at and make an informed decision about if it is fake or not. Not providing anything is just lazy. You are after strangers money.......

Sorry I'm gone!!

Hehe dude appreciate the opinion but it just doesnt work the same way as normal trading (i can just about read charts).   Im hugely confident in my own strategy, the risks are what i posted previously only.  There are no 'me making a string of bad trades' risks basically - hasn't happened in months.

How do i provide evidence of profits? i could fake everything no? (im not posting in depth stuff, fk that) With a larger investor i'd be happy for them to come around for coffee, on a public forum i dont know what i want to share and feel comfortable.

Doing business with family/friends (people who dont understand crypto and investing) is a nightmare im looking for a pro crypto investors ideally.  If none around i could start some kind of micro investing share scheme i guess?  

I'm happy to work on other projects for the time being, in no rush my end, just giving away free money mean time.  If you are rich guy i can split profits with you  

Peace.  

hmm if you are not an experienced trader you should stick to using your own money.
Until you can provide evidence of your profits.... I don't mean to be rude.. but its like me saying hmm lets see ummm
"I am not an experienced XXXXX give me money". What if you loose it all due  to your trades.... Seriously get money from family and friends first if you are so confident.

Just my opinion... best of luck

Hey!


As long as the price moves in a direction i can usually make ROI.  For me the biggest risk is exchanges going rouge (MtGox took me for 30 btc).  I guess 2nd biggest risk is a hacking to trading account (i use dedicated laptop for trading & 2FA).   3rd risk i guess if the price freezes for very large period i could make 0% ROI.  


Advantages of using me = saving yourself time, effort, not knowing how to achieve these ROIs yourself or diversifying.  

Im saying over 1 year, projection = 50-100% ROI - If you have a different available investment with less risk and same ROI or same risk and higher ROI you should pick that over me.

I dont know how i can post evidence.  With large investor i'd be more happy to share a little. Im not an experienced trader, I found a working strategy, it doesn't require huge tons of skill, it works.  Crypto is like online poker in early days - you dont actually need amazing strategies to beat the market.  Now if u look, online poker is basically solved (only the most skillful make decent money at meaningful stakes), i should imagine the easy money in crypto will also disappear in a few years.

I have a long term bitcoin holding stash which im not touching, i have room to increase a short term trade fund.

What ROIs can securities provide?


Its cool.

So basically you will trade and hope the price stays the same, other wise everyone looses everything.
What is the advantage of using you to do this, ss oposed to some one keeping their money and trying to do it themselves ?
And do not say you have figured out a fool proof stratergy!!

Do you have any evidance of you making constant proofs on a large scale for a large period of time ? or do you have anything to show ?
Also why not stick this in 'securities' ?

Hope you do not mind the questions, I am just asking what other would ask if this was in that sub forum
You have not given much information which is going to be a concern for most people.

why?  you can get 0.48btc a month on signature campaign

I somehow can't take anyone that's trying to earn change by displaying ads in their signature seriously.

I guess 1 large investor would work best but perhaps i could consider a series of small investors hmmm.  

- I trade crypto (i wont be talking about my strategies here).  PM for more details if a large investor (20btc+) seriously interested in investing.

- ROI projection = 50-100% in 1 year.  

- The only risk is putting our money in the exchanges.  (I only use decent exchanges)

- Making a loss on my trades over any kind of meaningful period just doesn't happen.


Why dont i use my own money? well i do, but i have room to expand (perhaps to 100-200 BTC)and not damage my ROI.