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Quote from: Sanitough on November 19, 2024, 09:03:41 AM

Think about it, it’s the same deal. You still have to put up money as a guarantee, so why not use that for betting instead? If the bet loses, it’s the same loss. But if it wins, you get to keep all the profit. Makes way more sense, right?

Yeah. It is the same deal if it's put that way, but I don't think it works like that. If the match is indeed a fixed one, you won't lose the bet thanks to which the escrow will end up sending you the stake + winnings.

If it ain't fixed, the escrow will still send you back your stake. This is probably what op is trying to sell and he clearly failed miserably.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 16, 2024, 05:29:47 AM

I understand all of your concerns, and I don't want to explain anything because someone who has not been exposed to fixed matches would not believe how it works, and my business has nothing to do with you. What I am looking for now is the source of fixed matches that really need my help to place large bets, because fake matches usually appear in lower level leagues, and most betting websites cannot place such large bets( I believe fixed match sources can understand what I am saying, because I have long-term cooperation with several sources). So please feel free to contact me if you have the source of fixed matches. Please leave me your contact information by private message on the website.

oh boy, we know exactly how match fixing works, it's just that we can smell the bullshit.

no one fixing games is going to contact a random person on a forum, let them in on their operation and bother to deal with an "escrow".
they don't need you to place bets for them, they can just buy/rent accounts to bypass limits and keep all the profit for themselves.

and if you already have long-term cooperation with several sources, what are you doing here?

Bro, you didn't need to pour down on him like that; we know their type and his objectives are clearly obvious; they always pretend to know something they don't in order to acquire more information rather than coming out plainly. The OP has no concept how fixed games work; he is simply looking for information indirectly, and we haven't heard from him since he started this topic.

Yeah. It is often really hard to understand what goals new users of our forum set, who appear with enviable consistency and almost always write something that immediately causes mistrust and an absolutely negative attitude. I don't think that the authors of such topics are so naive that they hope to easily deceive everyone here and come up with something really new and original. Most likely, opening new topics is some kind of unrealistic hope of such OP to "feel out" the forum and, if lucky, find at least one sucker who will naturally bring money to the author of the topic. However, I think that it is now not just difficult to do this, it is now almost impossible.

And it would be good if new cunning users of the forum were clearly aware of this. In particular, and on insider information from the authors of fixed matches too.

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Quote from: Zwei on November 19, 2024, 10:30:41 PM

Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 16, 2024, 05:29:47 AM

I understand all of your concerns, and I don't want to explain anything because someone who has not been exposed to fixed matches would not believe how it works, and my business has nothing to do with you. What I am looking for now is the source of fixed matches that really need my help to place large bets, because fake matches usually appear in lower level leagues, and most betting websites cannot place such large bets( I believe fixed match sources can understand what I am saying, because I have long-term cooperation with several sources). So please feel free to contact me if you have the source of fixed matches. Please leave me your contact information by private message on the website.

oh boy, we know exactly how match fixing works, it's just that we can smell the bullshit.

no one fixing games is going to contact a random person on a forum, let them in on their operation and bother to deal with an "escrow".
they don't need you to place bets for them, they can just buy/rent accounts to bypass limits and keep all the profit for themselves.

and if you already have long-term cooperation with several sources, what are you doing here?

Bro, you didn't need to pour down on him like that; we know their type and his objectives are clearly obvious; they always pretend to know something they don't in order to acquire more information rather than coming out plainly. The OP has no concept how fixed games work; he is simply looking for information indirectly, and we haven't heard from him since he started this topic.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 16, 2024, 05:29:47 AM

I understand all of your concerns, and I don't want to explain anything because someone who has not been exposed to fixed matches would not believe how it works, and my business has nothing to do with you. What I am looking for now is the source of fixed matches that really need my help to place large bets, because fake matches usually appear in lower level leagues, and most betting websites cannot place such large bets( I believe fixed match sources can understand what I am saying, because I have long-term cooperation with several sources). So please feel free to contact me if you have the source of fixed matches. Please leave me your contact information by private message on the website.

oh boy, we know exactly how match fixing works, it's just that we can smell the bullshit.

no one fixing games is going to contact a random person on a forum, let them in on their operation and bother to deal with an "escrow".
they don't need you to place bets for them, they can just buy/rent accounts to bypass limits and keep all the profit for themselves.

and if you already have long-term cooperation with several sources, what are you doing here?

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Quote from: Sanitough on November 19, 2024, 09:03:41 AM

Quote from: seoincorporation on November 19, 2024, 08:27:01 AM

And here come the 2 variants:
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If that’s the rule, it doesn’t make sense to look for a fixed match and risk your money just to pay the OP if things went wrong. Honestly, if I knew about a fixed game, I’d just bet on it myself.

Think about it, it’s the same deal. You still have to put up money as a guarantee, so why not use that for betting instead? If the bet loses, it’s the same loss. But if it wins, you get to keep all the profit. Makes way more sense, right?

Exactly my thoughts, you beat me to it: why not place the bet with the supposed escrow money if the person with the fixed games believes the source of the game is 100% guaranteed?

The only way this escrow thing works is if the OP doubles the amount given to escrow on the set game. If I deposit $200 to escrow, I expect OP to stake $200 or more on the game, and we will split 40-60% of the profits.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on November 19, 2024, 08:27:01 AM

And here come the 2 variants:

1.- Bet loses, escrow sends your money to OP to cover the bet.
2.- Bet Win. Op sends you the profit of the bet and the escrow sends you the bet amount.

So, this is how it should work, other way both will be risking their money.

If that’s the rule, it doesn’t make sense to look for a fixed match and risk your money just to pay the OP if things went wrong. Honestly, if I knew about a fixed game, I’d just bet on it myself.

Think about it, it’s the same deal. You still have to put up money as a guarantee, so why not use that for betting instead? If the bet loses, it’s the same loss. But if it wins, you get to keep all the profit. Makes way more sense, right?

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 19, 2024, 12:13:33 AM

Quote from: Sarah Azhari on November 18, 2024, 09:39:45 PM

as a small gambler, I'm certainly not interested in your offers, I'd rather just a play common by looking at the previous match of the club I choose.

There's no problem if you're just a small-time gambler, as long as you have a trustworthy source. But the real question is, how legit is OP anyway? Lol. With this kind of arrangement, both sides need to be sharp, since it's kind of in the gray area. We're just here to enjoy gambling, right? Nobody wants to risk ending up in jail over it.

Well, from what i have read in the thread there is a chance to use scrow. That way it must be secure. Let me explain how that should work.

1.- You find the match to bet
2.- You talk with OP about the amount
3.- You send the money to the escrow (A trusted forum member)
4.- Op uses his own money to place the bet

And here come the 2 variants:

1.- Bet loses, escrow sends your money to OP to cover the bet.
2.- Bet Win. Op sends you the profit of the bet and the escrow sends you the bet amount.

So, this is how it should work, other way both will be risking their money.

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Quote from: Sarah Azhari on November 18, 2024, 09:39:45 PM

You looked like a big broker who made attractive offers to us. I have ever seen the offers like this and the end with a scam because the broker can't handle another fixing mafia score. As I read how this job works, you need at least an extensive network between mafia scores to set who the winner is. because if it is there have a different argument, then you need a large capital to cover and submit the winner to the owner club or manager.

as a small gambler, I'm certainly not interested in your offers, I'd rather just a play common by looking at the previous match of the club I choose.

Most probably a scam attempt because you won't find people interested in making large bets on fixed games surfing around the internet looking for people to help them with it because they would already have their networks and people who would do such things for them. Money can do anything, if someone says they have a lot of money, they are into shady stuff such as this, but still are looking for people or partners then understand that they are lying because you don't go out hunting for partners in such cases.

Just like you, I would never be interested in an offer like this, and besides, we can't have any information about fixed matches because such information is not publicly available and only someone who is involved in fixing a game can know about it and it can only be revealed after it is done that the game was fixed. So I don't know why OP thinks he can find someone who will provide them with such information and get themselves in trouble.

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Quote from: Sarah Azhari on November 18, 2024, 09:39:45 PM

as a small gambler, I'm certainly not interested in your offers, I'd rather just a play common by looking at the previous match of the club I choose.

There's no problem if you're just a small-time gambler, as long as you have a trustworthy source. But the real question is, how legit is OP anyway? Lol. With this kind of arrangement, both sides need to be sharp, since it's kind of in the gray area. We're just here to enjoy gambling, right? Nobody wants to risk ending up in jail over it.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

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You looked like a big broker who made attractive offers to us. I have ever seen the offers like this and the end with a scam because the broker can't handle another fixing mafia score. As I read how this job works, you need at least an extensive network between mafia scores to set who the winner is. because if it is there have a different argument, then you need a large capital to cover and submit the winner to the owner club or manager.

as a small gambler, I'm certainly not interested in your offers, I'd rather just a play common by looking at the previous match of the club I choose.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

...If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

It's hard to believe that someone who can get inside information doesn't have the money to make a bet on their own. Moreover, he will still have to transfer this money to escrow, which could be used by him in order to place a bet on his own.

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If i have my money with me, then i don't think that i have to require for someone in placing the bet for me when i have strong foundation in what am going for regarding gambling and its available games of interest to me, i don't think i can also make use of the prediction sites even before i can place my bet, all these can only be a display of ones incompetency toward performing a task in gambling after considering a particular game.

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Quote from: Taskford on November 17, 2024, 04:56:57 PM

That shows people already have enough with this kind of fix matches thing. That's why we don't see anyone here got tempted to try those kind of services and just ignore then post their opinions towards what they know, then also warn people that they should never try to get this kind of offer since its really so risky for them to try this since we don't know the credibility of people online offering this services.

Gambling is fun activity if the people doing this activity is not a greedy person. But if they seek for unrealistic always win situation then provably that they are the target of this fix matches scam schemes or other situation related to this matter.

The difference is that people are more wiser and not falling for the fixed scam anymore it's thing of the past now..

Quote from: Jaycoinz on November 18, 2024, 12:34:24 PM

We await the testimonies of people that would subscribe to your fixed matches, till then good luck.

There are too many positive testimonials out there but how do we verify they're real and not some fake test times

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

I can place large bets on asian gambling companies, including some secondary leagues. Including sports such as football,basketball, tennis, table tennis, etc.
If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

Fixed matches have turned out to be illusion because it is very difficult to verify if it is even real. I know a lot of people that have spent a fortune looking for classified information they termed fixed matches but in the end it always amount to stories. As expected, scammers have also used that opportunity to collect money from desperate people in the guise of fixed matches. If you are desperate about fixed matches, there is a high chance you will be scammed so keep this at the back if your mind.

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A lot of people claim that they have access to fixed matches only to end up defrauding people. A friend of mine got scammed on telegram with this fixed matches trick. First of all I think that if you have such link you wouldn't even bother to put people on it or try to sell it to make money because you would be too busy making money. I personally don't doubt the fact that fixed matches exist but I highly doubt that they can be gotten easily. We await the testimonies of people that would subscribe to your fixed matches, till then good luck.

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Quote from: Z_MBFM on November 14, 2024, 08:52:06 AM

Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

I can place large bets on asian gambling companies, including some secondary leagues. Including sports such as football,basketball, tennis, table tennis, etc.
If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

wow are you grantee gambling win ? this is possible no one can granted for any type of bet without hacking program. but in the sportsbet it depend on teams performance because the win and loss on sports bet always select according to live sports. so you can't guarantee for any team will win. did you see the real Madrid and Barselona match ? will you except and predict that match. Real Madrid loss against Barselona by 4-0 goals. nothing is guaranteed in gambling. so don't try to scam someone. you are a newbie so no one will believe you in any way.

I don't know how most of us that are gamblers are always after going for fixed matches just has the name sounds.
Gambling is more of risk and we should be prepared to take any outcome that comes along with it. We should be only ready for fixed matches before we know the right thing to do when it comes to making profits as gamblers. Just has the name claimed there are bets we ought to play that could yield a huge profits rather than trying to bet on fixed matches.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

Making mention of using an escrow doesn't make it fraud free neither is it a show of integrity. Who is going to bring the escrow? On which platform. If you wanna show some integrity your escrow should be from the forum. We have lots of them but then again match fixing is frowned at so I guess you are not going to get anyone support you on that here.

The truth is that anyone claiming to have Links or access to a fixed matches should show much it's prove of work probably by bringing up games here let gamblers bet on them as normally with an amount that they can afford to lose before considering about other personal interests by users who can private message him or in other words games should be given for free where after winning conpasations can be made in form of appreciation which to me is more preferable even i believe games at some point can be fixed but there is no guarantee to this and majority can be fraudulent.

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Quote from: Japinat on November 16, 2024, 08:48:20 PM

Quote from: BitMaxz on November 16, 2024, 06:38:14 PM

-snip-

It’s definitely illegal, so if the OP ever finds a deal, it’ll likely happen privately through DMs where they discuss the details --- like some kind of underground syndicate agreement for the service they’re after. As we can see, most of us are criticizing it because, while we might understand how it works, we don’t support these unethical and illegal betting activities. It’s just not something worth endorsing.

I also don't see anyone here being tempted by that kind of thing - but we never know if it might actually interest people out there. I definitely don't support it - but gambling is unique, sometimes a gambler can do anything for his satisfaction. Agreements can be made personally via PM or otherwise - but one needs to consider the major risks lurking. After all - OP is a newbie with 3 posts, they are must be wary.

That shows people already have enough with this kind of fix matches thing. That's why we don't see anyone here got tempted to try those kind of services and just ignore then post their opinions towards what they know, then also warn people that they should never try to get this kind of offer since its really so risky for them to try this since we don't know the credibility of people online offering this services.

Gambling is fun activity if the people doing this activity is not a greedy person. But if they seek for unrealistic always win situation then provably that they are the target of this fix matches scam schemes or other situation related to this matter.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 17, 2024, 02:36:03 PM

Fixed games are illegal in some countries, I think this is something we all know, which is why criminals who set up fixed games don't do it online with anonymous people because of the high risk they would be running. What would guarantee that the person wouldn't be reported to the police? People who participate in these types of schemes do it in the real world and with people they know very well, because they know they won't be easily reported. So it wouldn't make any sense for someone to look for partners in fixed games schemes on the internet. The risk of being arrested or the athlete being permanently harmed if it is proven that they were involved in fixed games schemes is not worth taking. Honestly, the worst mistake someone should not make is to set up fixed games.

I mentioned something similar earlier in this topic.No serious fixed games are disclosed online; they have always been kept a secret to protect the players and clubs involved, as well as to prevent bookmakers from finding out and removing the odds, rendering the entire setup meaningless, as stakes on leaked fixed games are normally void.

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Fixed games are illegal in some countries, I think this is something we all know, which is why criminals who set up fixed games don't do it online with anonymous people because of the high risk they would be running. What would guarantee that the person wouldn't be reported to the police? People who participate in these types of schemes do it in the real world and with people they know very well, because they know they won't be easily reported. So it wouldn't make any sense for someone to look for partners in fixed games schemes on the internet. The risk of being arrested or the athlete being permanently harmed if it is proven that they were involved in fixed games schemes is not worth taking. Honestly, the worst mistake someone should not make is to set up fixed games.

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Op you don't have to help anyone in betting because it is just a prediction and when your luck falls to the right direction you win and if not you lose. And anyone who telling a gambler to win a fixed match is a hacker. And if I want to gamble I don't need to send money to someone to gamble for me but I can predict the games by looking at the previous performance of the teams and bet on them.

Anyone who send money for such prediction is at the owners' risk.

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Quote from: Japinat on November 16, 2024, 08:48:20 PM

Quote from: BitMaxz on November 16, 2024, 06:38:14 PM

-snip-

It’s definitely illegal, so if the OP ever finds a deal, it’ll likely happen privately through DMs where they discuss the details --- like some kind of underground syndicate agreement for the service they’re after. As we can see, most of us are criticizing it because, while we might understand how it works, we don’t support these unethical and illegal betting activities. It’s just not something worth endorsing.

I also don't see anyone here being tempted by that kind of thing - but we never know if it might actually interest people out there. I definitely don't support it - but gambling is unique, sometimes a gambler can do anything for his satisfaction. Agreements can be made personally via PM or otherwise - but one needs to consider the major risks lurking. After all - OP is a newbie with 3 posts, they are must be wary.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 16, 2024, 05:29:47 AM

What I am looking for now is the source of fixed matches that really need my help to place large bets, because fake matches usually appear in lower level leagues, and most betting websites cannot place such large bets( I believe fixed match sources can understand what I am saying, because I have long-term cooperation with several sources). So please feel free to contact me if you have the source of fixed matches. Please leave me your contact information by private message on the website.

Has this happened to you before Huh

That someone who has a source for fixed match with certainty of say 90% reality chances would reveal it to you and not bet it directly by themselves? Or is this the first time you are trying this out?

People don't reveal source of prosperity but to leave you guessing except for those whose businesses are in the public space and they are not just stakers but manufacturers and owners of physical infrastructures. I think your search is still strange and difficult to meet.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

I can place large bets on asian gambling companies, including some secondary leagues. Including sports such as football,basketball, tennis, table tennis, etc.
If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

Wow....weirdest post I have ever seen in this forum!

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Quote from: BitMaxz on November 16, 2024, 06:38:14 PM

I don't know exactly what fixed matches you talking about but it looks illegal. It is likely a bias or something like you know the outcome and going to bet a huge amount because you already know who's going to win the game. It most likely will be manipulated; it can be through the coaches, a team or a referees.

I don't think there's such a thing here on the forum; you can't able to find any casino here with biased matches and it's illegal.

It’s definitely illegal, so if the OP ever finds a deal, it’ll likely happen privately through DMs where they discuss the details --- like some kind of underground syndicate agreement for the service they’re after. As we can see, most of us are criticizing it because, while we might understand how it works, we don’t support these unethical and illegal betting activities. It’s just not something worth endorsing.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 16, 2024, 05:29:47 AM

I understand all of your concerns, and I don't want to explain anything because someone who has not been exposed to fixed matches would not believe how it works, and my business has nothing to do with you. What I am looking for now is the source of fixed matches that really need my help to place large bets, because fake matches usually appear in lower level leagues, and most betting websites cannot place such large bets( I believe fixed match sources can understand what I am saying, because I have long-term cooperation with several sources). So please feel free to contact me if you have the source of fixed matches. Please leave me your contact information by private message on the website.

I don't know exactly what fixed matches you talking about but it looks illegal. It is likely a bias or something like you know the outcome and going to bet a huge amount because you already know who's going to win the game. It most likely will be manipulated; it can be through the coaches, a team or a referees.

I don't think there's such a thing here on the forum; you can't able to find any casino here with biased matches and it's illegal.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

I can place large bets on asian gambling companies, including some secondary leagues. Including sports such as football,basketball, tennis, table tennis, etc.
If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

If somebody approaches you and offers you fixed match odds, it is undoubtedly a fraud; I am not saying it does not exist, but it is more of an inside arrangement, and no party engaged leaks such information to protect the players, club, and investment. 99% of the supposedly fixed games you see online every day are fake.

Nobody who knows the secret to wealth has ever revealed it to outsiders or charged for it. People no longer rig football outcomes; instead, they pay a player, instruct him on the field, and then bet on the odds. Exactly what Ivan Toney did at Brentford.

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I understand all of your concerns, and I don't want to explain anything because someone who has not been exposed to fixed matches would not believe how it works, and my business has nothing to do with you. What I am looking for now is the source of fixed matches that really need my help to place large bets, because fake matches usually appear in lower level leagues, and most betting websites cannot place such large bets( I believe fixed match sources can understand what I am saying, because I have long-term cooperation with several sources). So please feel free to contact me if you have the source of fixed matches. Please leave me your contact information by private message on the website.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

I can place large bets on asian gambling companies, including some secondary leagues. Including sports such as football,basketball, tennis, table tennis, etc.
If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

There’s a lot of danger of doing deal for fixed match provider since you can run the money including the profit in case the but won while your money is secure in escrow if the bet was lose.

I’m not sure who will entrust a huge amount to random guy instead of betting on their personal account or an account that was KYC using other people service just to bypass bet limitation.

In able for this deal work, Both party should escrowed same amount of money that equal to the bet to avoid scamming opportunities both ways.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

I can place large bets on asian gambling companies, including some secondary leagues. Including sports such as football,basketball, tennis, table tennis, etc.
If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

wow are you grantee gambling win ? this is possible no one can granted for any type of bet without hacking program. but in the sportsbet it depend on teams performance because the win and loss on sports bet always select according to live sports. so you can't guarantee for any team will win. did you see the real Madrid and Barselona match ? will you except and predict that match. Real Madrid loss against Barselona by 4-0 goals. nothing is guaranteed in gambling. so don't try to scam someone. you are a newbie so no one will believe you in any way.

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Match fixing is against the sports ethics and as such is a crime and offence punishable by the law. It is not advisable to give in to because most times such bet does not go down well and people involved record losses which is not commendable. It is best to avoid such because it would not yield any positive results and if you are being caught in the act, you would be made to face the wrath of the law for going against the sports ethics.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

I can place large bets on asian gambling companies, including some secondary leagues. Including sports such as football,basketball, tennis, table tennis, etc.
If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

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but what i was wondering is that why you have posted this thread and gone ? did not give contact option so you can discuss further your target thuogh i doubt that there will be even one that will show interest in this one.

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Quote from: arwin100 on November 12, 2024, 08:13:33 AM

Sample is here https://protos.com/crypto-casino-1xbet-accused-of-rigging-matches-streaming-childrens-games/

Based on what I read, this is another form of cheating by the casino, unlike fixed matches, where two teams or more collaborate to get the desired result. It's probably not the same thing the OP is looking for, but yeah, it's cheating nonetheless. I don't think modern games are free from cheating just because the platform promises transparency either, which is why we should verify everything if we can. Even a smart contract can be faulty based on how many hacks or losses happened because the casino claimed they were hacked. Do correct me if I'm wrong.

Needless to say, better stay away from shady deals like this. Especially from a newbie account with little to no history. I got scammed when I was a newbie too. In hindsight, that was a stupid thing to do because many red flags were there.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on November 08, 2024, 04:21:50 AM

Hmmm... Really Huh

So you want to guarantee refund if a gambler loses the bet... like if he goes on $5,000 for instance and loses Grin

Hahahha what a joke if what you said is true is just like you gambling with insurance for the losses. If there is something like this then I will go all in haha.

Quote from: marbet85 on November 11, 2024, 12:29:59 PM

LOL, guys, dont waste your time again, if it was an experienced / reputated user, the propose could be maybe taken , but it looks like spam or bait from a new user who offers something "controversial" and then stays silent while the machine keeps on running.

Agree this is waste of time better to look other thing guys, if this scammer I don't know frennn please stop what you are doing

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 09, 2024, 06:01:12 AM

There's something really off about op's account. I checked his profile and noticed that he created his account way back in 2022, but never posted with it all until now. His first two posts are about fixed matches.

There are several red flags associated with his account and offer which is why I advise using your brains and avoiding these 'Too good to be true' schemes.

Anything that have to do with fixed match promotion is a red flag already because there is nothing of such, no fixed match no one should risk their money on such promotion, I have said it times without number, most of the promotions that offer's fast money are ultimately scam and no one should believe them, infact being a newbie is questionable enough not to talk of risking to send money across for him ops to make the best in your behalf.

Most of those that engage in this kind of deals have been scammed and robbed before in the past, and for that we shouldn't engage this ops in any form.

Nothing like fixed match, not on cryptocurrency casinos or even in land game's, that time that such crimes exist in competition ha e past now it a new era of transparent gaming.

Actually there's really a fix matching incident that happen in actual professional sports. But this is been done in bigger scene since it need a lot of money to run a machinery to make everything works for those people who do this antics.

But when seeing this offered here and just asked for small amount of money? I think this is where can assume that there's something fishy towards OP's offer here. For sure he knows that his approach towards his offering will not work here since people usually think first before trying to avail on something they see online.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on November 08, 2024, 04:21:50 AM

Gamblers already know that fixed matches are still not guarantee just like other bet on matches. So it is just like white goose chase that will eventually turn out futile.

Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

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Hmmm... Really Huh

So you want to guarantee refund if a gambler loses the bet... like if he goes on $5,000 for instance and loses Grin

What if a gambler loses the bet like $100,000 is he going to refund? Op is promising something that we all knew he cannot fulfill. Gambling or bet come with a lot of risk and it is possible to lose money and someone is already saying he can refund you, what I don't understand is what if you win is op going to share the profits with you. Op are you that rich to refunds risk that other people takes by just providing help of placing "a big bet" for them?

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LOL, guys, dont waste your time again, if it was an experienced / reputated user, the propose could be maybe taken , but it looks like spam or bait from a new user who offers something "controversial" and then stays silent while the machine keeps on running.
Do you remember this thread where a newbie wrote only one and last post that he was looking for fixed tennis matches? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/match-fixing-5510628 Then a 7-PAGE debate, elaborates ensued WITHOUT the OP's participation more hah.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on November 08, 2024, 04:21:50 AM

Gamblers already know that fixed matches are still not guarantee just like other bet on matches. So it is just like white goose chase that will eventually turn out futile.

You are very correct but however there are still those that are very new into gambling and majority of them can easily fall this out of curiosity of attempting to record a winning line at every cost, I have been a victim in amy days in to gambling a friend of mine cajoled me in to, he called it game from Holland with so much hypes, we contributed money and and still bet the game with another extra cash, I got disappointed the game didn't played out even after all the hypes, if actually any one have claims of fixed and very confident why not the person gamble massively on it and open a charity organization, rather than looking for who to deceive.

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Quote from: ? on November 11, 2024, 02:37:30 AM

Introducing people to fixed matches does not encourage good sportsmanship and I believe it is something people should not be involved with.
I would see this act as a form of exploitation for innocent people that have intention to make more money and I see your integrity on the line.

I think every gambler will see this as your own opinion and they will like to work with what work for them. I don't actually see anything wrong with fixed matches because everyone is trying to look for the easier ways they can be making money from betting. I am sure that if you see good fixed matches that can guarantee your winning, you will not mind to invest hugely on such games. No one will see opportunity to make money from gambling through fixed matches and not give it a try. I think we ought to work with whatsoever thing that works without going extra mile to do the illegal just to win bets. I don't actually believe in fixed matches because I've tried that many things and they don't work for me so I'm cool if it's working for others.

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 09, 2024, 06:01:12 AM

There's something really off about op's account. I checked his profile and noticed that he created his account way back in 2022, but never posted with it all until now. His first two posts are about fixed matches.

There are several red flags associated with his account and offer which is why I advise using your brains and avoiding these 'Too good to be true' schemes.

Anything that have to do with fixed match promotion is a red flag already because there is nothing of such, no fixed match no one should risk their money on such promotion, I have said it times without number, most of the promotions that offer's fast money are ultimately scam and no one should believe them, infact being a newbie is questionable enough not to talk of risking to send money across for him ops to make the best in your behalf.

Most of those that engage in this kind of deals have been scammed and robbed before in the past, and for that we shouldn't engage this ops in any form.

Nothing like fixed match, not on cryptocurrency casinos or even in land game's, that time that such crimes exist in competition ha e past now it a new era of transparent gaming.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

I can place large bets on asian gambling companies, including some secondary leagues. Including sports such as football,basketball, tennis, table tennis, etc.
If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

Get a life bud, look for something better and more profitable to do with your time than come here to chase shadows.

Tell, assuming that I have access to fixed matches, but unfortunately, I can not place large bets on my casino account, and I decided to hire you to place big bets for me, will you be doing it with your money or I will have to send my money over to you?

Assuming I am sending my money over to you, how will the fund be escrowed since you are supposed to use the funds to bet on the game I am going to give to you using your own casino account? Will the fund be escrowed on your casinos account so that I can have access to it and withdraw it just incase ?
You and I know this is not possible, right?

And beside, I don't see what you are even bringing to the table here, you are risking nothing..

Anyways, good luck looking for whom to scam, and like I said before, better stop chasing shadows where and go look for something good do with your life.

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Introducing people to fixed matches does not encourage good sportsmanship and I believe it is something people should not be involved with.
I would see this act as a form of exploitation for innocent people that have intention to make more money and I see your integrity on the line.

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This is a bitcoin forum which just also has a gambling section. You won't even find fixed matches in a hardcore sports only forum because people are not stupid enough to share such matches online.
If there is a match that has been fixed only a hand full of people know about it and there is a reason for that. If too many people bet on it it will most likely be flagged and get under investigation. You want to fly under the radar doing something like this. Having public knowledge of the result is basically the absolute worst thing you can do.

Also, needless to say, most offers that are involving fixed matches ( doesn't matter if someone wants to buy or sell ) are scams in 99.9999% of cases. In my opinion this thread is just the same and I urge anybody not to make any deals here.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on November 10, 2024, 01:04:35 PM

If you are so much in need of a fix match source to cooperate with, then you can use the help of some top football or sports officials in your country, they probably could be able to have a lead for you, because I don't think you can find such in this forum or maybe you are just look for who to scam or something, are you?

Do not even give actual ideal to him, though. We are talking about illegal activities in any jurisdiction on this planet.
Also, if he dared to approach those guys for priviledged information, he would not get any in the end of the day, either because there are not actual matches being fixed or there are matches being fixed but the criminals organizations which are moving all the gears of the fixing have already told not to tell other about what is going on, it would be foolish for someone involved in illegal activities like those to openly admit them to a random person who also seeks to take advantage of them. That is not how it works...
In the worst case escenario someone trying to get I formation in such a direct way could get killed or kidnapped by mafias...

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Quote from: lixer on November 09, 2024, 03:59:39 PM

Quote from: Gozie51 on November 08, 2024, 04:21:50 AM

Gamblers already know that fixed matches are still not guarantee just like other bet on matches. So it is just like white goose chase that will eventually turn out futile.

I think those who are not guaranteed are only the tipping service which promises a higher win rate but not exactly 100 percent. now for those fixed matches, the only way they won't be guaranteed is if we got scammed right after the deal. I think the scam rate is still high, so for us to be sure that we are on the safer side, it is better to just stay away from them even on the other type of group that I said earlier because you know, it is always better to rely on our own ability. Even if we don't do well, it can only make us improve over time, so there are two benefits there.

Scamming might provably happen since its hard to imagine how these people ask other individual that they can help them winning thru fixed matches.

While the fact that they already know who's going to win then they don't need anyone's money because they could just take a sip and enjoy everything they can gain by sure win they claim to get here.

That's the reason I'm always doubtful about this and think about if someone posted like this they usually try to scam people who's greedy or desperate to win on each bets they placed.

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If you are so much in need of a fix match source to cooperate with, then you can use the help of some top football or sports officials in your country, they probably could be able to have a lead for you, because I don't think you can find such in this forum or maybe you are just look for who to scam or something, are you?

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Quote from: Gozie51 on November 08, 2024, 04:21:50 AM

Gamblers already know that fixed matches are still not guarantee just like other bet on matches. So it is just like white goose chase that will eventually turn out futile.

I think those who are not guaranteed are only the tipping service which promises a higher win rate but not exactly 100 percent. now for those fixed matches, the only way they won't be guaranteed is if we got scammed right after the deal. I think the scam rate is still high, so for us to be sure that we are on the safer side, it is better to just stay away from them even on the other type of group that I said earlier because you know, it is always better to rely on our own ability. Even if we don't do well, it can only make us improve over time, so there are two benefits there.

Quote from: Gozie51 on November 08, 2024, 04:21:50 AM

you want to guarantee refund if a gambler loses the bet... like if he goes on $5,000 for instance and loses Grin

No, but a refund is different from that but it would be better if he can also include it in the package, just in case things still goes wrong.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

Making mention of using an escrow doesn't make it fraud free neither is it a show of integrity. Who is going to bring the escrow? On which platform. If you wanna show some integrity your escrow should be from the forum. We have lots of them but then again match fixing is frowned at so I guess you are not going to get anyone support you on that here.

This add up in the question since we don't know who will be his escrowed or if we can trust those people who bring to middle up this possible deal. But I don't really feel anything good here nor find it appealing since I'm always suspicious when seeing a message like this.

Since I think its hard to see people who can dictate someone to manipulate their game for just small amount of money. So maybe for those newbie gamblers better take precaution and have this attitude where they asked knowledgeable people on something that they want to try to get clear suggestion if this is scam or not.

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There's something really off about op's account. I checked his profile and noticed that he created his account way back in 2022, but never posted with it all until now. His first two posts are about fixed matches.

There are several red flags associated with his account and offer which is why I advise using your brains and avoiding these 'Too good to be true' schemes.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on November 08, 2024, 04:21:50 AM

Gamblers already know that fixed matches are still not guarantee just like other bet on matches. So it is just like white goose chase that will eventually turn out futile.

manipulated games might exist but people selling fixed matchs is just absurd, if they had the info they could just make money betting themselves in incognito, why would they even sell for.

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Hmmm... Really Huh

So you want to guarantee refund if a gambler loses the bet... like if he goes on $5,000 for instance and loses Grin

so, the fact is that op don't wanna loose his money in any case, ain't him be considered as a gambler as only have intention for the win win scenario in his dumbo glory seek head Grin

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

Making mention of using an escrow doesn't make it fraud free neither is it a show of integrity. Who is going to bring the escrow? On which platform. If you wanna show some integrity your escrow should be from the forum. We have lots of them but then again match fixing is frowned at so I guess you are not going to get anyone support you on that here.

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Funny... Talking about integrity while at the same time inviting people with priviledged information to further engage in unlawful activities which are taken very serious in the civilized part of the world and in any country which allows gambling.

To anyone who is even considering to take this person seriously: Stay away and do not engage with him/her.

Also, it would ridiculous to think someone with priviledged information and with enough power to fix matches would be in a position to need liquidity from someone on the internet they do not even know, real match fixers (criminal organizations) do not need anyone's money to operate underground, as they usually do.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

I can place large bets on asian gambling companies, including some secondary leagues. Including sports such as football,basketball, tennis, table tennis, etc.
If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

Just want you to know that many people attempt to do business saying that they could set up fix matches here but they never succeed. Since lots of people here don't have any interest towards that attempts since they know there's no guarantee of everything and the reputation of people say that is questionable.

So expect that lots of people will discourage anyone to participate especially that activities is illegal.

Also same with other I don't trust people saying they have knowledge about this thing since if they really are no one would share this information as they can make their selves rich already with that matters.

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I strongly advise against engaging in activities that involve fixed matches, as it is not only unethical but also illegal in many jurisdictions. Promoting or participating in such practices often borders on illegal and unethical territory and can lead to severe consequences, including legal action.

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Bad for idea, no forum member will give this idea any thought, for reasons being that, there is nothing like fixed match so anyone that risk money on such bets is just risking to lose at the end of the day.

And also for the ops, how do you expect members for my random anonymous forum to risk large funds by sending it to you to stake a bet on their behalf, this doesn't go down well and can get you a tag on the long run.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on November 08, 2024, 04:21:50 AM

Gamblers already know that fixed matches are still not guarantee just like other bet on matches. So it is just like white goose chase that will eventually turn out futile.

Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

Hmmm... Really Huh

So you want to guarantee refund if a gambler loses the bet... like if he goes on $5,000 for instance and loses Grin

All these does not seem to be true, if the gambling platforms cant assure us that they are going to make a refund, how much more the gambler who uses our money to gamble and lost it all, where is he going to get the refund to make, if he had been well doing in finances, we would have first thought of using his money for gambling and making a living through that, not when he makes offers like this.

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Quote from: Dunamisx on November 08, 2024, 04:25:52 AM

Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

I can place large bets on asian gambling companies, including some secondary leagues. Including sports such as football,basketball, tennis, table tennis, etc.
If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

Is this not a calamity in disguise, why should someone look for another person who is expert in betting to do that for him without knowing about his reputation and identity, why cant we learn to do things ourself, this is risk because it will be difficult for people to confide trust in you, if you think you're that very good and experience, then do it for yourself first and make the proof for others to see.

Is there any thing like fixed match? I don't think anything like this exist because most of all these matches are just based on strategic opinions about what we think and that do not justify what the outcome of the match will be. We can predict and the prediction aligned with the actual result but that do not mean that it's a fixed match bet. I have used so many fixed matches bet and everything ended in loses which had made me to be extraordinarily conscious not to over bet because I have fix matches bets that claims to make me hit huge winnings.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

I can place large bets on asian gambling companies, including some secondary leagues. Including sports such as football,basketball, tennis, table tennis, etc.
If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

How can you give win guarantee? will you refund if the bet lossess ?
no one can give any guarantee for gambling winning it is impossible. you can make potential prediction but you can't guarantee.

How you escrow system will work. if i keep escrow on someone then how will the bet and profit cycle work ? how will you take my money for gambling and if i send money to escrow holder and you bet with your money and my money holded on escrow service provider. then you have to place bet with your own pocket money then why you ask for money to someone if you bet with your own money. Huh

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I don't really believe in match fixing, i know it happens, but usually in the lower levels of a particular sport. I don't know the escrow you intend to use for this deal, but i would advise you to stay away from schemes like this, the chances of meeting a scammer is 9.9 out of 10. If you are trying to win a huge amount of money from gambling in this way, you will definitely end up being disappointed, you are better off gambling all by yourself and doing so responsibly.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

I can place large bets on asian gambling companies, including some secondary leagues. Including sports such as football,basketball, tennis, table tennis, etc.
If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

Partnering with a match-fixer is a criminal offence. Advertising criminal activities on a public forum is shameful. It will definitely lead to scams if the activity is illegal. I don't think you will get any reputable member in this forum who will stand as an escrow for such a shady deal. Match fixing doesn't only ruin casinos, it destroys the reputation of sports games.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 04:50:46 AM

My usual mode of collaboration with others is like this. If the profit you expect from me in a game is assumed to be 5000U, then I will pay you 5000U. If lose the game, you will compensate me with 5000(i paid you before)+5000 * 1.3=11500U, and all transactions will be made using escrow to keep ensure the fund security of both parties

You will be looking for compensation cause you staked higher that the amount you were expected to pay the other partner should the game have been successful, is that right?

It's some shady business, but you're looking for someone who is already into fixed matches so it should not be shady to them. Plus, they're risking nothing from the start, so it's a good way to show they actually do trust the games they provide.

How do you plan to find a escrow you and the other party will trust?

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This has never worked in this forum and many have tried such kind of offer. This is a well educated forum so you can try some social media platforms and I strongly believed that those who know the real prediction sites never come here to talk anything but quietly doing their things without anyone knowing. Even you begged them to show you road, they would not. And if you too know such thing to make money, I swear, you won't come here to tell people to give you money to gamble for them. You are purely here for scamming people. But you might give the person the first win if only you even win and that might make the person to give bigger amount then the money will not return. But if you loss what will you do? Are you returning the money or what? Because the person is only giving you to win and not to lose since you are an expert. Nobody should give him anything.

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you'd be better off looking for another platform to spread your scam(you may claim that it isn't but the chance of it being a scam is extremely high). I doubt anyone will take your offer here, I have seen posts in the past offering "fixed matches" and the majority(if not all) of the comments are criticizing the poster of the thread.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

~~All transactions will be conducted using escrow,~~ without fraud, and with integrity.

This is already a scam. You’re either gonna be the one getting scammed, or you’ll be the one scamming others. Still illegal though, so whoever ends up benefiting, I honestly don’t care. I just hope if there’s any rigged info out there, it’s not in the games I love, because it would break my heart to find out those games I cherish have lost all their integrity.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 04:50:46 AM

My usual mode of collaboration with others is like this. If the profit you expect from me in a game is assumed to be 5000U, then I will pay you 5000U. If lose the game, you will compensate me with 5000(i paid you before)+5000 * 1.3=11500U, and all transactions will be made using escrow to keep ensure the fund security of both parties

This doesn't look clear and wise to go into in the first place. If a player who is betting under you loses, then he returns the money you initially paid him? Can you listen to yourself?

I'm not sure you are definitely going the right way. Moreover, you are just a newbie and would hardly get that kind of investment and oblique exercise you want someone to embark on.

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 04:50:46 AM

My usual mode of collaboration with others is like this. If the profit you expect from me in a game is assumed to be 5000U, then I will pay you 5000U. If lose the game, you will compensate me with 5000(i paid you before)+5000 * 1.3=11500U, and all transactions will be made using escrow to keep ensure the fund security of both parties

Some kind of shady scheme.
So, initially, I provide you with information about match-fixing (for example, CS2, tier 2 league), then I send money to some escrow service? After that, you place a bet? I don't really understand how this works at all.
And in general, match-fixing is an unreliable thing, plus it’s illegal. I wouldn’t advise anyone to get involved with it.

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My usual mode of collaboration with others is like this. If the profit you expect from me in a game is assumed to be 5000U, then I will pay you 5000U. If lose the game, you will compensate me with 5000(i paid you before)+5000 * 1.3=11500U, and all transactions will be made using escrow to keep ensure the fund security of both parties

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Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

I can place large bets on asian gambling companies, including some secondary leagues. Including sports such as football,basketball, tennis, table tennis, etc.
If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

Is this not a calamity in disguise, why should someone look for another person who is expert in betting to do that for him without knowing about his reputation and identity, why cant we learn to do things ourself, this is risk because it will be difficult for people to confide trust in you, if you think you're that very good and experience, then do it for yourself first and make the proof for others to see.

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Gamblers already know that fixed matches are still not guarantee just like other bet on matches. So it is just like white goose chase that will eventually turn out futile.

Quote from: wcfeng1114 on November 08, 2024, 03:45:16 AM

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Hmmm... Really Huh

So you want to guarantee refund if a gambler loses the bet... like if he goes on $5,000 for instance and loses Grin

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I can place large bets on asian gambling companies, including some secondary leagues. Including sports such as football,basketball, tennis, table tennis, etc.
If you are a reliable provider of fixed matches and do not have a suitable way to place large bets, please message me privately and leave your contact information. I will discuss further cooperation with you as soon as possible.

All transactions will be conducted using escrow, without fraud, and with integrity.

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