Topic: Looking for Sr Member accounts from 0.1 (Read 768 times)

Interesting story. Jazkal mistake (previous owner). Negative trust should be removed.

Anyway, some Sr.Member accounts for sell?

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Here is the conversation between gumble and myself, about the sale.

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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: July 31, 2014, 05:57:14 AM »
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Quote from: onewiseguy on July 28, 2014, 08:12:12 AM
what do you have for sell?

Hello onewiseguy, please check my account  list on my thread.
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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: August 01, 2014, 06:35:09 AM »
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Quote from: onewiseguy on July 31, 2014, 10:02:02 PM
Account #2 up coming when will you have this one ?
Account #5 (266 - 336 activity +, registered in 2011, with avatar) - 0.45 BTC will you take .4 for this one? I will buy straight no escrow.
also can you tell me what is the avatar ?

also for the accounts what will be coming with them?


Hello, currently I have a buyer for this account who is willing to pay 0.45 BTC for It, but if he wont respond soon I will sell It to you. Avatar is a serious man just staring, with dark green soldier clothes with dark green cap.

I will let you know when I have Hero Member #2

Also I can offer you these accounts :

Account #2 (266 - 280 activity +, registered in 2013) - 0.35 BTC

Account #4 (308 - 322 activity +, registered in 2013) - 0.45 BTC

for account #4 price is little negotiable, thanks.
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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: August 02, 2014, 06:14:11 AM »
Quote from: onewiseguy on August 01, 2014, 02:00:34 PM
Okay i can pay .45 for it right now

Hello, sorry for the wait, I can sell you the account now. Please let me know when you are ready. Thanks.
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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: August 02, 2014, 01:04:22 PM »
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Quote from: onewiseguy on August 01, 2014, 02:00:34 PM
Okay i can pay .45 for it right now

Also If I will not be online when you will be, here is my BTC address: 1Doa3kuCnNnBBZSpFrMsjdpe56mHotg258


Send  0.45 BTC to It and when I'll come online I will pm you account username and password, but hopefully I will be online.

this is the account:

Account #5 (266 - 336 activity +, registered in 2011, with avatar) - 0.45 BTC

Thanks
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Okay already sent for Account #5 (266 - 336 activity +, registered in 2011, with avatar) - 0.45 BTC

Hello, I will handle you the account in few minutes when transaction gets 1 confirmation, thanks.
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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: August 02, 2014, 04:32:14 PM »
The confirmation should come soon, also are you still interested in Hero member account?
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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: August 02, 2014, 04:33:19 PM »

username: Jazkal

password: nikito555
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« Sent to: onewiseguy on: August 02, 2014, 05:11:07 PM »
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Hello, you were interested in Hero Member account before? Are you interested in this one?

Hero Member (910 activity +, registered in 2011, with avatar (some kind of symbols), neutral trust)  for 1.2 BTC

If you are, please send 1.2 BTC to this address: 1Doa3kuCnNnBBZSpFrMsjdpe56mHotg258

I will send you username and password via pm. Thanks.







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« Sent to: Jazkal on: August 03, 2014, 02:16:36 PM »
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 You bought this account from gumble99... Gumble99 didn't payed the bitcoins for this account to the true owner. So, if gumble99 won't pay, your account get some negative trust. Please pm gumble99 to avoid this.

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« Sent to: gambitv on: August 03, 2014, 07:17:22 PM »
can you explain to me why this is so  are you the original owner of this account?


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« Sent to: Jazkal on: August 03, 2014, 07:37:44 PM »
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No, I am a friend of Jazkal.

The deal was that gumble99 sells the account of Jazkal for 0.35 Btc. Jazkal gave gumble99 the account details and gumble99 changed them ... Two days past and jazkal never received bitcoins from gumble99...
Please get in contact with gumble99 and tell him he should pay. Otherwise, Jazkals account and gumble99 account will get negative trust and your primedice campaign is finished before it started…



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« Sent to: gambitv on: August 04, 2014, 03:25:26 AM »
Thank you for the concern, I will need your friend to contact me directly.  I will try to get in contact with the seller. Your friend made the deal with gum not with me. trying to put a negative on the account I purchased. will be reported to admin. For there was no trade with you or your friend by this account and will be falsely done. 

As stated above I will need your friend the past (owner of this account).  Have your friend contact the seller no need for you to be threatening me.

Thank you.


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« Sent to: Jazkal on: August 04, 2014, 10:44:09 AM »
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My friend does not have an account anymore. To contact him use this mail address: [email protected].

However, 24 hours left and both accounts get negative trusted.



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« Sent to: Gumble99 on: August 04, 2014, 02:51:20 PM »
Quote from: Gumble99 on August 01, 2014, 06:28:38 AM
Hello Jazkal, I found a buyer for your account, he is willing to buy for 0.4 BTC, do you have an escrow? because escrow.ms is not responding for days. If you have an escrow please pm his username so I can contact him or just simply give me your password and I sell It ,as buyer said he will go first to me without escrow. I would charge 0.015 BTC for this trade so you would get 0.385 BTC, let me know.

Hey man I see you sold the account to me for more than what was being sold. .4 BTC and you sold it for .45 BTC. also some dude keeps saying you never paid him for the account.



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« Sent to: Jazkal on: August 05, 2014, 11:22:15 PM »
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I don't care, this account is a stolen good. Believe me, no member wants do trade with someone who has negativ trust and/or a bought account... also, your enrolled sig-campaign will be flushed...

I will give you 18 hours to get in contact with gumble99 and ask him to pay jazkal. Otherwise, you can pay 0.35 BTC to 1DnYAd2WzGHyxNzxqmCcGV4CM6QHE2FBti.

I hate scams, and this will stop here...






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« Sent to: gambitv on: August 05, 2014, 01:02:07 AM »
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leaving this account with negative because Your friend and gum did not complete the transaction. is on them. Now as for me I paid. and well i have proof of this so if you leave a negative saying you dealt with me then we will have a problem.   you or your friend can contact gum. I don't need to do anything. threatening me and this account is a no go mate.



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« Sent to: Jazkal on: August 06, 2014, 12:24:11 AM »
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Done!!!






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« Sent to: gambitv on: August 06, 2014, 12:08:02 AM »
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yea sure ill pay you . so I get screwed and pay double  its okay I am not here for trading.  And I will report you to the admin for blackmail. The emails back and forth is enough. I am not responsible in trying to contact gum "seller".  I already sent him an email he didint respond.  your friend should of taken payment from seller. Why would he give the details first without payment from the seller? ether  your "friend" is stupid or its you. and your trying to pin it on me.   Seems scammy for what I see.  go right ahead leave a false negative comment that you traded with me. I will do the same.

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« Sent to: Jazkal on: August 06, 2014, 12:28:13 AM »
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Find Gumble99! We are also looking for this bastard….



and he is what was left on the account jackal from original owner i believe



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« Sent to: Gumble99 on: July 30, 2014, 05:28:06 PM »
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Hey Gumble99,

I want to sell my account for at least 0.35 BTC. Do you use escrow? Please pm me for more details.
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« Sent to: Gumble99 on: July 30, 2014, 06:59:43 PM »
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Hi,

okay, that sounds good.

I want this deal with escrow.ms. Please list my account in your offers.

How long do you think it will take until my account is sold?
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« Sent to: Gumble99 on: August 01, 2014, 10:50:55 PM »
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thats nice, I will trust you:

Password: j4zkal007

Please send bitcoins to  1DnYAd2WzGHyxNzxqmCcGV4CM6QHE2FBti

Don't try to scam please, a negativ trust on this account wouldn't be nice...

For further communication: [email protected]

I think it is a complicated question that should be addressed. The difference between providing the password to a buyer and providing it to a phishing site is that you are agreeing to give up ownership to a buyer while your intention is clearly not to give up ownership when inputting it into a phishing site. Being able to prove the lack of payment received is also very difficulty, especially when some trades happen off site that are difficult to trace (or when payments are handled off chain - for example via a cex.io, a btc-e code or a coinbase transfer). Both an off site sale and a off chain payment would be very difficult to prove a transaction happened either way.

I don't think voluntarily providing an account's password is enough to constitute a legitimate change in account ownership when it is provided under false pretenses. In this case, payment was promised and not received. I don't really see how this is any different than refusing to return an account held in escrow or setting up a phishing site that mirrors the forums. The account credentials are voluntary given in these cases as well, but I don't think anyone would consider them legitimate "transfers of ownerships". Accounts have been and will be returned if they are stolen through these two methods, same thing should happen with the Jazkal account in my opinion.

It would be a clear cut case if the account hadn't been resold already. Unfortunately, it was, which complicates things, but the original owner still has more of a right to the account than the new one, given how the account was obtained.

please let me know who the original owner is because if you know what is going on, than you wouldn't be posting what you dont know.

as stated in the post, the original owner has not contacted me just a random person who found out it was sold and is demanding payment to an address.  the bigger issue  false feedback was left with no proof of anything.

The concept of ownership of accounts is not clearly defined within the forum rules (this is probably a problem). Lets assume that the account was not hacked - as the claim is that it was purchased but funds were never sent.

It appears that the previous owner gave the password to gumble99 with the promise of payment soon thereafter, gumble99 then took payment from the new buyer, gave the password to the new buyer and never sent the appropriate payment to the former owner. The question is what constitutes a transfer of ownership of an account. Is it the act of sending payment, or is it the act of voluntarily providing the password to the account with the understanding that you are in the process of selling it. I would probably say that it is the later, which appears to have happened

I think the bigger issue with that account is that the original owner is trying to recover it. It appears he has some claim to it, since he was apparently never paid for it.

He might not mind. I have had buyers approach me before offering very low prices for a senior account with the stipulation that he is okay with it having negative trust

yup, there are so many account farmers here

Are you trying to sell him this account?

I doubt he is interested in an account with negative trust and disputed ownership.

Sorry Quickseller - that's misunderstanding i know you're prices very good. we are too far away to reach an agreement

I'm waiting for propositions 0.1..

I will send you a PM

Too many accounts is just drifting. You sell i want to buy.

I need 2-3 more.. Waiting for propositions.

(I pay escrow costs)

I am sorry to tell you but the days of being able to buy seniors for .1 are over. There are too many signature deals out there that are paying well. The cheapest senior I have seen recently is on this thread. He is selling for .3 although I cannot speak for the quality of accounts as I have not purchased from him before.

Are Sr member accounts really going for that cheap these days
They were like 0.5btc each last time I seen them sold.
Is it because there is less and less signature campaigns open these days or is there so much them on sale now?

I have one to sell you.

Looking for Sr.Member(s) accounts from 0.1

Comments and PM very welcome..