Redsun: The problem you're running into is that Paypal is really terrible. Large stores like Amazon can live with the terribleness because they're rich enough to absorb a few chargebacks and big enough to prosecute fraud internationally. Most people here don't have those advantages.
See if your bank does ACH direct deposit to other accounts---that's a bit more reliable.
Topic: Looking to buy 5/600$ worth of BTC from trusted person@ 3.40$/BTC or Best Offer (Read 1742 times)
May 03, 2011, 09:48:31 AM
May 03, 2011, 09:22:20 AM
not a scammer, I SPECIFICALLY asked of any ways to ensure fair trade
May 03, 2011, 07:32:35 AM
this guy is obviously a scammer, do not deal with
May 03, 2011, 12:41:21 AM
If a scammer uses a stolen PayPal account to make a payment, I'm pretty sure the account owner can report the payment as unauthorized and get it reversed regardless of the payment method.
Or perhaps a scammer links a PayPal account they create to someone else's bank account or credit card and the account owner reverses the transaction.
Or perhaps they just call PayPal with a story like "My kid made this transaction when I was away from the computer" and get away with it.
The Bitcoin community has seen a lot of PayPal-based scamming in the past.
Or perhaps a scammer links a PayPal account they create to someone else's bank account or credit card and the account owner reverses the transaction.
Or perhaps they just call PayPal with a story like "My kid made this transaction when I was away from the computer" and get away with it.
The Bitcoin community has seen a lot of PayPal-based scamming in the past.
May 03, 2011, 12:19:43 AM
I read through the legal stuff at the paypal site. From what I can tell, buyers are not eligible for "purchase protection," aka paypal dispute resolution, aka chargebacks, when purchasing bitcoin. It seems to me that bitcoin falls under the "intangible items," the "items equivelant to cash," or the "personal payments" categories. When using "personal payments" the seller has to chose the "personal" tab.
Speaking to the buyer: "PayPal will generally not find in your favor if you escalate a Dispute to a Claim for an item which is not eligible for PayPal Purchase Protection."
Reference:
Paypal User Agreement, 13.3.
Based on what I've read on these forums, Paypal is a no go for sellers, but based on what I read at the paypal site, I'm not sure why that is. If sellers choose the 'personal payments" option, aren't they protected? Does paypal not enforce it's own rules?
Speaking to the buyer: "PayPal will generally not find in your favor if you escalate a Dispute to a Claim for an item which is not eligible for PayPal Purchase Protection."
Reference:
Paypal User Agreement, 13.3.
Based on what I've read on these forums, Paypal is a no go for sellers, but based on what I read at the paypal site, I'm not sure why that is. If sellers choose the 'personal payments" option, aren't they protected? Does paypal not enforce it's own rules?
May 02, 2011, 10:01:10 PM
too much work... I'm in Montreal
I really thought payment owed was impossible to chargeback.... so far everything I've sold I've been payed with that and never had problems
there are no credit card or banks associated with my account so I cant cancel the transaction
I really thought payment owed was impossible to chargeback.... so far everything I've sold I've been payed with that and never had problems
there are no credit card or banks associated with my account so I cant cancel the transaction
May 02, 2011, 09:56:08 PM
where are you located?
In person might work.
In person might work.
May 02, 2011, 09:53:19 PM
I thought it was impossible to chargeback with payment owed? Please advise me how to send $$ without chargebacks being an option
Please note I only have PPUSD
Please note I only have PPUSD
May 02, 2011, 09:30:22 PM
How safe are amazon gift cards? Can the sender "chargeback" a gift card (eg, use the code before I do, or otherwise steal it)?
If gift cards are safe, I'd sell you 50 BTC for an amazon gc. I'd want to use clearcoin.
If gift cards are safe, I'd sell you 50 BTC for an amazon gc. I'd want to use clearcoin.
May 02, 2011, 09:11:35 PM
sad but true
May 02, 2011, 09:07:22 PM
New motto for Paypal :
"Paypal, the money preferred by scammers around the world"
redsun : not joking on you
"Paypal, the money preferred by scammers around the world"
redsun : not joking on you
May 02, 2011, 09:00:14 PM
I'm sorry, My only method of payment is Paypal I can pay with Payment owed however (equivalent to gift)
red flag
May 02, 2011, 08:58:45 PM
Ah, then good luck.
Without trust, it is hard to find a seller because of the risk of chargebacks.
Without trust, it is hard to find a seller because of the risk of chargebacks.
May 02, 2011, 08:56:39 PM
I'm sorry, My only method of payment is Paypal I can pay with Payment owed however (equivalent to gift)
May 02, 2011, 08:55:53 PM
I can do this via check by mail, potentially for a cheaper price as well.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/proxy-buy-and-sell-bitcoins-7083
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/proxy-buy-and-sell-bitcoins-7083
May 02, 2011, 08:53:13 PM
Upped the price
May 02, 2011, 08:51:00 PM
Some people have asked me if I was the same person as RedSun from BiddingPond. I am not. I have only just started using bitcoins
May 02, 2011, 08:38:17 PM
Looking to buy 600$ worth of BTC from trusted person at 3.40$/BTC or Best Offer
Like title says. Must be trusted if you want me to pay 1st (Web of Trust and forum, ie: AFAIK Keefe, mndrix and stuff like that are VERY trusted)
I'd like this to be ASAP so Best Offer
Like title says. Must be trusted if you want me to pay 1st (Web of Trust and forum, ie: AFAIK Keefe, mndrix and stuff like that are VERY trusted)
I'd like this to be ASAP so Best Offer
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