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legendary
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This banning of a thing is just a threat. How is it possible to ban an anonymous? The earlier Government at all cadres realize that this is the future currency, the better for them to strategize.

They're not banning anonymous, please read carefully. And it is possible to ban crypto as China and India have done, by making it illegal for businesses to conduct or transact in crypto related activities. The ban usually leads people to go underground and just trade p2p instead but if they get caught like in US, you can get fined or even jail time.
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This banning of a thing is just a threat. How is it possible to ban an anonymous? The earlier Government at all cadres realize that this is the future currency, the better for them to strategize.

Art the threats from countries that are seeking to ban bitcoin is with excuse that people use it for illegal dealings but this is not a reason good for talking negative about a digital asset , fiat has been used for all that too. The whole of them will eventually look at regulation in their country home, banning of cryptocurrency will only take the countries out from global businesses and that will bring them backwards.
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This banning of a thing is just a threat. How is it possible to ban an anonymous? The earlier Government at all cadres realize that this is the future currency, the better for them to strategize.
You are not getting the point. We all know banning crypto is not possible but if Government announce it's ban or ban it, we would like ourselves to get involved something which is illegal.
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This banning of a thing is just a threat. How is it possible to ban an anonymous? The earlier Government at all cadres realize that this is the future currency, the better for them to strategize.
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I don't think it will happen in near future. Some media house deliberately publishing fake news and attributing it to reliable anonymous sources
Government will not out a blanket ban on crytpo as they know it is not possible to ban it.
They will come up with some face saving solution that's why they have postponed the bill till monsoon session.
Passing law different than enforcing it. Maybe the law could be unsuccesful and the enforcement is low but they atleast have an excuse to punish whoever confronts their interest.
Whether the people in there could still use crypto sneakily definitely depends on the people themselves.
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India is a country with exponential growth potential, its key though all the investment hype is with China and its great leap (a bad phrase in this context) into the footsteps of super powers just from its sheer size actually India deserves a similar consideration.   The problem is right now India has been held back by an anti capitalist sentiment and system of governance that goes back decades and its not as poised for growth as China has managed through its command economy forced growth.  Theres no doubt every country has flaws, China remains communist despite appearances or at least a military dictatorship so has flaws wider then the grand canyon without a doubt I do hope for that reason alone India gets off its ass and starts to pull its weight and more in the world and part of that is their attitude to fintech as they put it or crypto as we view it.    Stop hobbling on crutches and learn to run is my hope for their aspirations, I believe they are capable of changing everything in the next decades if they take up that mantle I dont want China to dominate Asia unopposed.
   On this news alone people are ready to write them off, it was never the governments choice to ban or not to ban its really about the people taking this forward or not.
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Just read an article where an official says they expect the crypto ban to be passed, despite other officials recently downplaying the likelihood of it.

India is becoming quite an oppressive government from a monetary standpoint. Giant leap backwards for them if they pass the bill. Won't hurt Bitcoin too much - apparently there's only about $1.2 billion of bitcoin held in India (about a dollars worth for every citizen). If they do ban cryptos it just means that one day when they ultimately reverse that ban we're gonna get a huge pump from a billion-plus people suddenly having access to Bitcoin, by which time Bitcoin will likely be far more engrained throughout the rest of the world.


It's crazy to think about a government actually making it illegal, acting like you are some terrible criminal, simply for holding a digital asset. I guess other smaller nations have done this, but India would be the first major nation if it indeed passes. The idea of banning bitcoin is a great litmus test on how much economic freedom a nation has - and if you ban it you are a terribly monetarily oppressive nation.

Thoughts on the possible India crypto ban?
I don't think it will happen in near future. Some media house deliberately publishing fake news and attributing it to reliable anonymous sources
Government will not out a blanket ban on crytpo as they know it is not possible to ban it.
They will come up with some face saving solution that's why they have postponed the bill till monsoon session.
That make sense which is indeed happening as of this moment and this isnt something new because those media would really be continuing on publishing out those things
which do really misleads out people on the actual or truth thing about crypto.
When it comes to banning then just let them be, sooner or later they would really be reverting those decisions if they do realize that they wont really able to get rid of it.
Government isnt really that dumb nor aware on how things do works.
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Just read an article where an official says they expect the crypto ban to be passed, despite other officials recently downplaying the likelihood of it.

India is becoming quite an oppressive government from a monetary standpoint. Giant leap backwards for them if they pass the bill. Won't hurt Bitcoin too much - apparently there's only about $1.2 billion of bitcoin held in India (about a dollars worth for every citizen). If they do ban cryptos it just means that one day when they ultimately reverse that ban we're gonna get a huge pump from a billion-plus people suddenly having access to Bitcoin, by which time Bitcoin will likely be far more engrained throughout the rest of the world.


It's crazy to think about a government actually making it illegal, acting like you are some terrible criminal, simply for holding a digital asset. I guess other smaller nations have done this, but India would be the first major nation if it indeed passes. The idea of banning bitcoin is a great litmus test on how much economic freedom a nation has - and if you ban it you are a terribly monetarily oppressive nation.

Thoughts on the possible India crypto ban?
I don't think it will happen in near future. Some media house deliberately publishing fake news and attributing it to reliable anonymous sources
Government will not out a blanket ban on crytpo as they know it is not possible to ban it.
They will come up with some face saving solution that's why they have postponed the bill till monsoon session.
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They are issuing different statement each day and it seems like different officials are carrying their own individual boats and nothing is clear at all.The bill is is final stages but still has not been presented in the current session of parliament.But Indian government would not go with terrible decsions of banning usage of all forms of Cryptocurrencies which will have them suffer loss in return.So let's wait for the actual announcement and hope for best as India accounts for highest amount of crypto trading in Asia as demand of Bitcoin is at premium in India.
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it seems like this will be a big issue in the world if India bans, the crypto community in India is very large but this seems to be the government banning crypto. So I think right now there must be a real solution for the Indian government in this regard, because clearly the crypto ban is likely to raise pros and cons in India.
Looks like India was the first country that were going to declare for ban of cryptocurrency that u have known so far and this will definitely a big issue in case happen. As i do hope that it won't great affect the bitcoin market since bitcoin was now in great growth of market. So far we haven't heard a serious case that cryptocurrency was a threat to the economy of one nation and in fact some nation are considering crypto as a good investment.
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And before you quote any article, make sure this is not a PR claim by some CEO of an Indian exchange that only throws numbers around to promote his business.
Indian exchanges do have very strict KYC requirements. 8 million users have undergone this KYC process in order to register to various Indian exchanges.

As per my estimate, there are 4 users who use P2P platforms and global exchanges, for every user registered with the Indian exchanges. So my conservative estimate would be 20 million users in India.

How do I put this...
Exactly why I've been talking about it, exchanges claiming they have million of users.

There is always a chance of the exchange owners inflating the number of users, but the trade volume and ground reports support these claims.

Hmm, Wazirx is doing $76.691.478, Binance $72.358.046.448.
So, if in India there are 20 million users then worldwide there must be 20 billion users.
I have a feeling something is wrong with this one...
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It's crazy to think about a government actually making it illegal, acting like you are some terrible criminal, simply for holding a digital asset. I guess other smaller nations have done this, but India would be the first major nation if it indeed passes. The idea of banning bitcoin is a great litmus test on how much economic freedom a nation has - and if you ban it you are a terribly monetarily oppressive nation.

Thoughts on the possible India crypto ban?
Your government isn't going to be the first one then. I have seen very few other countries that have banned bitcoin. I am just wondering, how are they going to ban it? It is almost impossible to do so. There is no way they can track each  and every citizen who are using bitcoin (unless banks are involved). So even if they do ban bitcoin, won't you guys be able to do P2P trading like the way bitcoin was supposed to be traded?
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Define active users!
Because if we go by all the claims on how many people you have active in crypto in all countries you end u with more than all the transactions in all the chains that are active right now. 20 million? And before you quote any article, make sure this is not a PR claim by some CEO of an Indian exchange that only throw numbers around to promote his business.

Indian exchanges do have very strict KYC requirements. 8 million users have undergone this KYC process in order to register to various Indian exchanges. If someone is undergoing this rigorous KYC process, then in all probability he is an active user IMO. And from what I have seen, due to the hostility from the authorities the majority of the users are not using exchanges. Rather than that, they trade using P2P platforms. As per my estimate, there are 4 users who use P2P platforms and global exchanges, for every user registered with the Indian exchanges. So my conservative estimate would be 20 million users in India.

There is always a chance of the exchange owners inflating the number of users, but the trade volume and ground reports support these claims. Before the pandemic, I was a regular visitor to India, and I have seen cryptocurrency users in the most remote corners of that country. And now, according to my friends cryptocurrency is much more popular when compared to the situation two years back.
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I have no idea about the impact of India in the cryptocurrency space, i understand they have a huge population but that does not mean anything. If the government bans it will affect the investors and they need to find a solution to trade and P2P is an option which i know is popular when the exchanges were forced to shut down couple of years ago.
There are many options for people who would like to still use crypto, considering how it would be impossible to track everyone's accounts and moves, I am sure that it will be quite difficult to make people come out and say that they still own bitcoin, they will try but they will fail. And that is only if they make it completely illegal, like even owning it would be illegal, in that case I am sure other methods will get more popular and problem will be solved.

The problem with not caring how much money India promotes is the fact that bitcoin was created so that we would be out of governments hands and do whatever we want without them ruining bitcoin, which they can't, only regulate it, but if we as whole bitcoin community act as if India doesn't matter, that would make us not really different from governments that only care about the rich and not for the poor and cause us to flee to bitcoin.
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It's crazy to think about a government actually making it illegal, acting like you are some terrible criminal, simply for holding a digital asset. I guess other smaller nations have done this, but India would be the first major nation if it indeed passes. The idea of banning bitcoin is a great litmus test on how much economic freedom a nation has - and if you ban it you are a terribly monetarily oppressive nation.

Thoughts on the possible India crypto ban?

That's only possible ban of cryptocurrency, and I guess this stories was just a part of FUD attempts coming from giant holders who also lived in this country. If we have to think on the fairness of the situation, they won't allow their society to adopt it at first but how come this time when price rapidly increasing there's a banning speculations.
There's no confirmed truth on this idea, and I guess they're only trying to deceive small holders in order to be anxious over fake news.
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Just read an article where an official says they expect the crypto ban to be passed, despite other officials recently downplaying the likelihood of it.

India is becoming quite an oppressive government from a monetary standpoint. Giant leap backwards for them if they pass the bill. Won't hurt Bitcoin too much - apparently there's only about $1.2 billion of bitcoin held in India (about a dollars worth for every citizen). If they do ban cryptos it just means that one day when they ultimately reverse that ban we're gonna get a huge pump from a billion-plus people suddenly having access to Bitcoin, by which time Bitcoin will likely be far more engrained throughout the rest of the world.


It's crazy to think about a government actually making it illegal, acting like you are some terrible criminal, simply for holding a digital asset. I guess other smaller nations have done this, but India would be the first major nation if it indeed passes. The idea of banning bitcoin is a great litmus test on how much economic freedom a nation has - and if you ban it you are a terribly monetarily oppressive nation.

Thoughts on the possible India crypto ban?

India was a good and standard market for the goods and products. Same concept was worked for the bitcoin also. During corona, huge people in India was suffered for food. But I don't know, where such guys had a money to inverse in bitcoin at the market gap of 58-60k$.Still now bitcoin was a legal one from my knowledge. If the bill passed against this, their maybe fluctuations.
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Just read an article where an official says they expect the crypto ban to be passed, despite other officials recently downplaying the likelihood of it.

India is becoming quite an oppressive government from a monetary standpoint. Giant leap backwards for them if they pass the bill. Won't hurt Bitcoin too much - apparently there's only about $1.2 billion of bitcoin held in India (about a dollars worth for every citizen). If they do ban cryptos it just means that one day when they ultimately reverse that ban we're gonna get a huge pump from a billion-plus people suddenly having access to Bitcoin, by which time Bitcoin will likely be far more engrained throughout the rest of the world.


It's crazy to think about a government actually making it illegal, acting like you are some terrible criminal, simply for holding a digital asset. I guess other smaller nations have done this, but India would be the first major nation if it indeed passes. The idea of banning bitcoin is a great litmus test on how much economic freedom a nation has - and if you ban it you are a terribly monetarily oppressive nation.

Thoughts on the possible India crypto ban?

And why does the RBI/government think that banning crypto is going to work at all?

This has been tried and tested over a range of countries to no avail. I think that we can safely conclude at this point that it is simply impossible for a ban of a completely decentralised network to be enforceable.

Having the legislation on paper is one thing, and restricting actual access is another.

As you said, I wouldn't expect this to be much of a factor when it comes to BTC's price action both in the short and long run. People are used to this stuff happening, and BTC is designed to be a hedge against fiat anyhow.
legendary
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Just read an article where an official says they expect the crypto ban to be passed, despite other officials recently downplaying the likelihood of it.

India is becoming quite an oppressive government from a monetary standpoint. Giant leap backwards for them if they pass the bill. Won't hurt Bitcoin too much - apparently there's only about $1.2 billion of bitcoin held in India (about a dollars worth for every citizen). If they do ban cryptos it just means that one day when they ultimately reverse that ban we're gonna get a huge pump from a billion-plus people suddenly having access to Bitcoin, by which time Bitcoin will likely be far more engrained throughout the rest of the world.


It's crazy to think about a government actually making it illegal, acting like you are some terrible criminal, simply for holding a digital asset. I guess other smaller nations have done this, but India would be the first major nation if it indeed passes. The idea of banning bitcoin is a great litmus test on how much economic freedom a nation has - and if you ban it you are a terribly monetarily oppressive nation.

Thoughts on the possible India crypto ban?

Sucks for people in India honestly but as far as the price of bitcoin unless there was a world ban on it (lol) the price won't be as affected as it used to be when China kept banning and unbending bitcoin.  Its too widestretch now I think for one country to have a large effect.
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it seems like this will be a big issue in the world if India bans, the crypto community in India is very large but this seems to be the government banning crypto. So I think right now there must be a real solution for the Indian government in this regard, because clearly the crypto ban is likely to raise pros and cons in India.
I have no idea about the impact of India in the cryptocurrency space, i understand they have a huge population but that does not mean anything. If the government bans it will affect the investors and they need to find a solution to trade and P2P is an option which i know is popular when the exchanges were forced to shut down couple of years ago.
legendary
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I think it is obvious that any nation that completely bans bitcoin would be shooting themselves in the foot, we are talking about a nation that has managed to overcome all digital problems that they faced and I can promise you that they will do that again, which is why if it is completely illegal, they would just switch to P2P type services and handle it, plus there are other nations now that allows you to start a bank account, at the very worst case people would open an account in that nation, get a card and they will be putting their crypto in exchange and withdraw to that bank and just use it in India as a foreign bank credit card, that's like the worst possible situation, even then there is solution.

This is why I think government will soon realize that they can't ban it, and regulations are not that horrible, as long as it is not harsh regulations I am fine with that, but it needs to make sense.
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