Topic: LoyceV's Merit source application (Read 2496 times)

We're up to 80 merit sources at this point. That means you've got to be somewhere in line for processing. I've already given my endorsement, but it seems kind of silly that there is no way of knowing whether or not you've been viewed, reviewed, processed or rejected. The only answer you will be aware of is if and when it is a "yes". I would like some more transparency on this front, as it leaves less room for confusion and us sitting here in a daze. I imagine you haven't been accepted, because I haven't seen an increase in your merit sending; plus this thread is still open and being bumped.

The first batch(es) were probably, if I had to guess, done in some kind of order of necessity. Local-boards probably are getting priority as theymos originally mentioned. I would assume theymos is trying to spread the sources out based on their activity, which is going to make it increasingly difficult to become a source that primarily roams around the "main" boards. I'll quit my rambling, I just wanted to give my opinion on there being no notifications or information on the status of your own application, besides what can be described as an educated guess.

Side-Note, why do you think they seem to come in batches of acceptance rather than one at a time? That behooves me a bit, unless theymos sets aside a particular chunk of time to bang out a bunch of applications and always manages to find multiple sources within that pile.

sometime it is enviable to see someone who barely can differentiate between walking stick and blockchain can afford to have huge ignore list.

That's the only way to do it in my opinion. It's very subjective, just like my ignore list, but I think there is such a diversity of merit awarders, that it gives anyone who makes a reasonable and interesting post the chance to gain merit.

Surprised you haven’t been selected yet buddy.

It's quite simple: I merit posts that I deem worthy. Have a look at my Merit summary to see which posts I've merited.

Lol what? I'm not looking for "ideal posts".

Theymos didn't ask for it.

Ok, asked a different way...how do you merit posts now?

• What criteria calls your attention?
• How do you determine how much to give?
• What do you use as a guide or ideal post to compare all other posts to?

You don't mention any of those details in your original post.

I wouldn't bump this if I was.

Kinda like how I created this thread: I won't read boards that I'm not interested in, and I will Merit posts just like I do now. I would, however, increase the number of Merit per post such that I'm close to using all sMerit per month. I now usually give just 1, sometimes 2, and an exceptional 5, as I am in no rush to run out and be unable to Merit good posts later on.

Were you one of the lucky 20?!

More seriously, if you were to become a merit source, what your criteria be for the following?

• Reviewing posts around the forum (there are a lot of boards!)
• Assessing the merit-worthiness of a post
• Determining how much merit to give a post

Thank you.

Bump

20 new Merit sources were created.

@bill gator: I just keep bumping this, as I have no idea whether or not theymos has seen the thread.
It seems the first batch of Merit sources was quickly processed, and since then Merit sources have been stuck at 57 in total.

If I had to guess Loyce, the staff is probably getting a feel for how well the merit currently available circulates before they overdo it on sources. I would imagine that out of the people that have applied you are the most likely to be accepted and probably our best gauge for how they will continue with the merit source submissions. I say this to mean, if you don't get approved then there is a good chance nobody will be approved at least temporarily. I would imagine this is why it is taking so long for them to process these, because of a temporary halt on processing. You're probably first in line for actual consideration.

I absolutely Vouch for you to be made a Merit source buddy, you make some top quality & very helpful posts. I especially made use of your fork claiming guide. Sending you some Smerit right now.

Yes, you should not rush to apply as a merit source. If yes (what you did), please apply because you want to help others (good members), don't apply because you will get more merit as a merit source. I recommend this (maybe unecessary for you due to you have had clear objectives to be here and to be a merit source) because in the future, we might see new rank, higher than Ledgandary (Lambo as someone proposed) based on merit points received.

Anyway, thanks for your topic.

@JayJuanGee: I've added the link.

Do you have a link to the thread that you referred to as the "Unofficial merit source application thread?"


Edit:     I found it:


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28929005

Give this man source...

Merit sources are confidential; thus, the most we’ll ever know about how it turns out is when the application has been “Processed”.  Apparently, this has not yet occurred.

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Thanks.  In the time since you wrote that, I handily blew past “deeperx”.  Also past “RichDaniel”, the “Hero” Member so incredibly meritorious that he got +283 in the span of an hour (then got red-tagged for his trouble).  Unfortunately, within the past 24 hours, I’ve fallen behind “pitipawn”, a Full Member who seems to be running Turkish threads soliciting merit in some fashion.  I’d better work harder!

For what it's worth I'd like to throw my endorsement of LoyceV for merit source into the public sphere. They've been around for years, they've been entrusted with tremendous responsibility multiple times without any disappointments, helped multiple members learn many technical aspects of bitcoin, and merits posts that should be merited above all.

I was thinking about applying to be a merit source, specifically because I try to search out posts to merit constantly and run very low on merit all the time; I was a little worried though, because many members are saying it is too early to apply as a source even though theymos himself gave application instructions on day 1. I'm torn about applying, but since you've already jumped the gun I'm interested to see how it turns out.

I appreciate the way you've went about selecting your posts as well, and if I ever do apply to be a merit source I will follow a similar method. This way you are not going the "obvious" route, and instead trying to find regular posts that go unmerited and should not. I can't think of a requirement that you fail to meet, unless they simply don't like your choice of posts or your post history is lacking in some manner. It also might be the case that they are intentionally being very conservative when selecting sources and reviewing source applications, because it will set a precedent.

Don't ask me
I guess there is no rush to apply as a merit source, maybe more people will apply the coming months.

I didn't ask
As much as I appreciate shorena's contributions to the forum, he hasn't posted between October 29, 2017 and January 19, 2018.

It doesn't work that way, nearly no one who "wants" to become a mod becomes one on BCTtalk or we'd have either Lutpin or shorena be one(who are at the top for making the most reports AFAIK).

As for becoming a merit source, I believe this is way too early to ask to be one and secondly your examples aren't that noteworthy. I believe almost all longstanding reputed members have already been made into merit sources kind of like DT 1 when DT was introduced and to get in the "system" you'd have to get at least the approval from some merit sources(can't see any approval from a somewhat reputed member except nullius I guess). Well theymos rarely replies or reacts when you just make a thread, might as well send a PM with a link to this thread, don't expect a reply though.

P.S: I have the 36 sMerits things, does that mean I'm a merit source? Haven't been following the recent introduction of the new system yet.

See my signature if you ever needed any reviews for posts, You could be a merit source for free and have a cheap reviewer like me

Thanks for the endorsements! I like how the Merit system shows my efforts are appreciated.

Before reading this post, I was already thinking I would like a "Merit-subscription" to your posts. Basically, (almost) anything that you write is worth reading.
You're the second Top-merited Member, only second to deeperx (who has red trust and got all his Merit for DeepOnion posts in his self-moderated (censored) ANN-thread). I really appreciate how well the Merit system works for good posters (and I ignore deeperx in my list of good posters).

Reported _(kidding)

I've been a Mod at Rollin.io for more than 2 years (until the site closed). It's tricky: when I was too strict, I got complaints, and when I wasn't strict enough, I got complaints too. It's a fine line.
I never asked to be a Mod there, I asked for a ban-button to end the spam. And I wouldn't mind having my own nuke-button here.

Which is why he should not only be a merit source,but a staff member. This user has good knowledge on bitcoin,is always on the verge to succour any one in need of help. Loyce V has reported so many users,for copy-pasting,shitposting and the like. Another person who would be up for such is Welsh. Both of them contribute a lot to the forum.
Sorry for that off-topic spam though.

Hereto, I avoided replying here out of an apparent conflict of interest.  I wish to make it clear that what I say is not based on LoyceV having picked some of my posts.  Much as humanly possible, I will avoid thinking about that when I consider whether or not LoyceV should become a merit source.

The criteria for a merit source should require that a source must be fair and possessed of sound judgment, well-informed, resistant to corruption, and deeply invested in the Bitcoin Forum’s long-term success as a community.  By such evidence as I have seen in my experience here, LoyceV appears to have these characteristics in more than adequate measure.

A merit source should ideally be someone who actively strives to promote post quality in a positive sense, by making and promoting quality posts, and also in a negative sense, by fighting spam and abuse.  LoyceV’s post history is impressive for his own quality as a poster.  Almost from the first day I actively started posting here, I noticed his aptitude for both starting and encouraging generally helpful discussions.  On the spamfighting side, LoyceV’s copypaste plagiarism reporting thread is an endeavour I much respect, independently of the merit issue.  I suggest that it clearly demonstrates his devotion to forum quality, plus the superlative level of effort he will expend for it.

I haven’t always agreed with everything I’ve seen LoyceV say in this forum; but that’s not important or relevant to this topic.  Frankly, I also do not agree with all his above selections insofar as I myself would not have awarded merit to some of them (though none is an unsound selection).  I state these things to make clear that the foregoing is neither based on any general agreement of opinions, nor on any expectation that LoyceV would award merit the same way as I would.  I here consider only matters which speak to likely soundness as a merit source, as described above.

I hope that the administration is considering his application, for I believe that its acceptance would be beneficial to the forum.