Topic: Luckynumber.me faking bet volume, using fake accounts to advertise (Read 2571 times)

Nice save

Luckynumber deleted his reply admitting to OP's claims a while ago but I took a screenshot of it knowing he might do just that.

Since the last post, luckynumber.me no longer shows other users cashouts.
Coincidence? I don't think so.

Another whale using the same addresses.



1. Cashouts to 1DvtgZNv15vMbPxN9eQ5jBWToDWUsdj5wJ
    Same address used for zahra4571
    Same address used for gorang
2. Has multiple sends to and from 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM

It's getting real obvious that these are all fake.

Depends how you view it, it's misleading and very poor from them. The site constantly advertises these big wins to draw in players, but as RGBKey pointed out in his scam accusation thread, the site is never provably fair, this just adds on to that thread.



So a Scam? Maybe. Depends how you view it
It's basically fraud.

Not to mention their facebook has 20,000 fake followers and their twitter has 30,000 fake followers, what's up with that?

Something stinks about that site, you're right. There are a couple shills who try to promote it in the lucky me thread but I wouldn't be surprised if they are all the same person. Still, this doesn't make the site a scam, does it?  Just using unfair advertising practices.  Or I guess also could be intentionally messing with the provably fair aspect like you pointed out.

It could be a hot wallet, but why would whales send coins back there after winning?

A lot of the accounts listed have received and sent coins from that address, so if it was a hot wallet, the whales would just be replacing the coins they cashed out, further proving that it's the admins pumping fake volume.

Not saying the OP isn't right, but my cashouts from the have come through the 15yC address before, meaning that it might be one of the site's hot wallets, which would explain why all these coins go through it. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if your theory was correct, at the very least there is a high probability that Giftcoins/zeeshan are one and the same.

After looking over some of the cashouts on Luckynumber.me, its pretty obvious to see that almost all the high-betting accounts are one person, this person is more than likely the administrator of the site.
The high-betting accounts raise the volume of the site significantly and lure users into believing they have a higher chance of winning because of the profits that these accounts make.

It is possible that this is done to lure users into an unfair game where the odds are not the same as advertised.

Luckynumber is NEVER provably fair, meaning the moment you make a bet on the site, your bet can be instantly manipulated, forcing you to lose coins.
Read this topic for more details.

This site is incredibly untrustworthy, why would a site lower it's profits in the public eye? For two reasons:

1. For a false sense that users can win a lot of coins easily.
2. To offset the profit the house makes, ie. the game may be rigged to take 5% of winnings, the fake high rolling players bring this back down to 1%.

Proof of fake bet volume

Firstly, most whales for this site have coins originating from 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM, either sending or receiving coins from this address.

A quick google of this bitcoin address links us to a member's profile on bitcointalk



Interestingly enough, this member is an active promoter for luckynumber who claims to own this address. Let's take a look at some of his posts.
Below, this user posts on the provably fair topic, the claim is that the site is fair because this specific user (not himself) was up 5 BTC.



Here's the data from the cashout for the user: ursuake - the one zeeshanblc posted above.

698 ursuake 18:10 7.11700000 494bf528215280ab8f047ec55899b1e294d8d1f31171adf1b8ad2de6cc8cf5cc
We can take a look at the transaction id posted above, and get some more information from it.

1. A cashout for 7.117 coins is sent to 1CzsCp7SXasBD3Est4p2jXS4XdENv1iwAW
2. The 7.117 coins are almost immediately sent back to 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM - zeeshanblc's address.

So we can see that zeeshanblc claims he isn't this user, but it seems highly likely that he is.

After gathering more information from all the "high rolling users" a clear link is established.

List of high rolling accounts and how they are linked
Lot's of text, feel free to check the blockchain info yourself to verify this.





1068   wakka   12:31   6.00000000   dd3e7301c080b49700ae51813d2e75481a4d4a9dba69e4e9ec932015c9523c70
1067   wakka   12:31   4.00000000   82618c57a7a08c8e65ffedb69b9c5969b5589a1ac9f4fdb2d60146ee6b789aa9

   1. Cashouts to 1KG2zLKKdddZUxAKhGm6mjrBNG9kXE36o7
      Same address used for chimichanga
   2. Receives money from 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM




986   cartman   23:38   2.01900000   4b27c0f6ff8dfa8e392ba31b6556afd5a72cb67046a6b179f3a507e53e4a2d71
      
   1. Cashouts to 16vPeMXxwp1jfWo3CYve9Hzky8NK5N783g
      Same address used for gorang
      Same address used for auxiliarus
   2. Moves money to 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM
      



934   gorang 10:06 3.46400000 38bf2b8a809bff8898471454f57ce3ac6c6503c8c01674cf19c9c4de8a7e7bba

   1. Cashouts to 16vPeMXxwp1jfWo3CYve9Hzky8NK5N783g
      Same address used for cartman
      Same address used for auxiliarus
   2. Moves money to 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM
      



931   brxyon 09:47 0.82250000 0aa849811b0d39ed8f7c00a8262c913f478b5e6b060234610a385a67b427ea81

   1. Cashouts to 14mFVLF2xSDHxVehq3RhLVVQHjkakENGDW
   2. Taint analysis shows 50% of funds from 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM
      



881 scrappycoco 19:03 0.80000000 596ac598bad892379437125c5d333da2dbe0382139a9ca6c7a59aa83a4947717

   1. Cashouts to 16Poeccv7mb2QbfqGaTern2n6jykhEFYw5
   2. Taint analysis shows 100% of funds from 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM

      


865 shmoopy 21:29 4.00000000 455b405cdd3163025f3eafd775a32631069b7bea4f3493ff0346e446c195dc67

   1. Cashouts to 1H4nHQWDZYPTt3zCANzcxwyjpBNKX3Ts61
   2. Taint analysis shows 50% of funds from 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM

 


854 auxiliarus 09:44 2.45900000 ca1cdf0a06caf25e3c61c3ea50f9c66c13cf2849c6cda810693eaca99bd3f341

   1. Cashouts to 16vPeMXxwp1jfWo3CYve9Hzky8NK5N783g
      Same address used for gorang
      Same address used for cartman
   2. Moves money to 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM




827   zahra4571   09:37   8.00000000   b81d0d113af2944be7f46356b2c0d744061d51551a81f683112f1a245e381027
826   zahra4571   09:37   1.00000000   c914f4ce5c157bc724354285653cb537958fde25299c17c6d8a84f4afa7fa8db

   1. Cashouts to 1DvtgZNv15vMbPxN9eQ5jBWToDWUsdj5wJ (both)
      Same address as gorang (first time)
   2. Moves money to and from 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM

For this account, a bitcointalk user exists under the same name.
This could be two things.

- Since this address moves money to and from the address 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM, this could just be zeeshanblc/giftcoins
- This account could be a third administrator for LN, which then admits to pumping their own volume below:



809   hambone 17:54 1.49900000 48f6a48398c53d509032b5c5d7ae7a9a4ce706a5cc6af3cafc88cf4f85f8fbbb

   1. Cashouts to 1DMui7A5nti8X9miUfPiGZCeuw5gtBHREx
   2. Taint analysis shows 50% of funds from 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM

774   voldemort 17:25 0.55380000 a7e9600f4b913043f1fa726f9609657b1db3042428da04e438318071a1fe5d98

   1. Cashouts to 16QD7UHXBsKTwjyVQkaY4L3zG4AusGtAx
   2. Moves money to and from 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM

747 chimichanga 16:53 0.86725000 f1688d49f7cc139d255586d91dcff3187c0885ff40961e570e2a7060d11a55d6

   1. Cashouts to 1KG2zLKKdddZUxAKhGm6mjrBNG9kXE36o7
   2. Moves money to and from 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM

743 gorang 12:03 2.38500000 5c772636c7e21fa46cb8d09f65e7c46f5e015627b14df6e365f50a1ea49933c9

   1. Cashouts to 1DvtgZNv15vMbPxN9eQ5jBWToDWUsdj5wJ
      Same address as zahra4571
   2. Moves money to 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM

698 ursuake 18:10 7.11700000 494bf528215280ab8f047ec55899b1e294d8d1f31171adf1b8ad2de6cc8cf5cc

   1. Cashouts to 1CzsCp7SXasBD3Est4p2jXS4XdENv1iwAW
   2. Moves money to 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM


Simply put

• All high betting accounts on this site are linked with the address 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM
• 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM belongs to bitcointalk user, zeeshanblc
• Both giftcoins and zeeshanblc post large winnings claiming it isn't them
• The 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM address has been in use much before the sites launch
• It is highly probably that zeeshanblc and giftcoins are the same person OR they are both administrators for the site
• Although stated as provably fair, luckynumber is NEVER provably fair
• zahra4571 is another fake account OR is another administrator for LN (linked to 15yCaCSVeLScXZBAwgQ6bGSznEsEqTfaYM)
• No other accounts on this site are affiliated with this address