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newbie
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March 12, 2019, 08:08:55 PM
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The best thing I could find was an academic paper called "Generalized Scheme For Fractal Based Digital Signature (GFDS)" which proposes a digital signature scheme based on Mandelbrot and Julia fractal

Fascinating stuff!! here are some excerpts:
   
" It is possible to have digital signature scheme
based on fractal due to the strong connection between
the Mandelbrot and Julia fractal sets. The link between the
two fractal sets is used for the conversion of the private
key to a public key"

"This paper has shown the possibility of using Fractal sets
(Mandelbrot and Julia function sets) in Cryptographic
keys exchange protocol. The Fractal based key
exchange protocol is made possible because of the
intrinsic connection between the Mandelbrot and Julia
Fractal sets
"
 
Link to academic papers:

Generalized Scheme For Fractal Based Digital Signature (GFDS):
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/254029431_Generalized_Scheme_For_Fractal_Based_Digital_Signature_GFDS

Cryptosystems Based on Chaos Theory
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/278681731_Cryptosystems_Based_on_Chaos_Theory

New Key Exchange Protocol Based on Mandelbrot and Julia Fracta Sets
http://paper.ijcsns.org/07_book/200702/200702B17.pdf
legendary
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You are right, but it seems the M set alone can be used as both hashing and ECC at once.

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I believe you are correct, and that was my mistake. The problem is that these methods are not that popular and are nothing like the established cryptography functions that are currently in use, so finding information about it is hard. The best thing I could find was an academic paper called "Generalized Scheme For Fractal Based Digital Signature (GFDS)" which proposes a digital signature scheme based on Mandelbrot and Julia fractal sets hence my reply above.
newbie
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You are right, but it seems the M set alone can be used as both hashing and ECC at once.

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Just a quick note: I think the OP should distinguish hashing functions (like SHA-256) from elliptic curve functions. The former are used to map arbitrary data sets to a fixed-size data set and in Bitcoin serve to create unique digital fingerprints and in the proof of work process. The latter are used for public/private key cryptography and could at least in principle be replaced by other (parabolic or Mandelbrot set) functions.



newbie
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You are absolutely right, asymmetric cryptography and not elliptic curve but perhaps more parabolic, I think this difficulty mechanism should be more efficient as its more synchronized with real world values.
how do you think the first line should be said best?

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legendary
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Your first line was very misleading because from what I understand from Mandelbrot Sets usage in fractal based cryptography it has nothing to do with hash function (ie. SHA256) which you start this topic about.[one of the usages of] Mandelbrot Sets fall under the category of Asymmetric Cryptography so what you are saying here is an alternative to Elliptic Curve Cryptography that bitcoin and most other altcoins use.
I am intrigued to know more about difficulty of this algorithm compared to ECC and RSA and efficiency of its calculations though. Do you have anything on that kind of comparison?
newbie
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As you know, SHA-256 is the "padlock" mechanism inside cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, and while it does the job for now, its based on a complexity generating engine that has some faults, namely different inputs giving the same outputs technically called collisions. The Secure Hashing Algorithm has also a recorded history of obsolescence over time and was invented by a government agency. However the iteration of the function f(z)=z^2+c  also known as the Mandelbrot set can naturally create a similar cryptographic mechanism.

The M set has a natural cryptography in the sense that all images have one unique Julia  and numerical coordinates as a counterpart. A unique output corresponds to a unique input, there is no way of producing exact coordinates from an M set or Julia plot, so unless you know those coordinates they cant otherwise be known as being associated with the image. With some programming effort they can behave like public and private keys. An M set based cryptocurrency can be mined by digitally recording the fractal, so if it gets recorded it can also record transactions.

Suppose you have some coordinates of a deep zoom, you then have the ability to create the exact image counterpart from the numbers but not the numbers from the image. However they will get ultimately recorded on the M set blockchain at some point in the future, wallets therefore naturally expire after a number of years, which in turn makes for an unexpected solution. By wallets  having an expiration time, private keys can be rediscovered by mining the fractal, funds will be eventually fed back into the crypto ecosystem.

The M set generates inexhaustible amounts of data, yet there exists a scarcity element as well, albeit only a man-made one, this being how much data can be recorded. This limit ultimately corresponds to Moore's law curve. This natural yet artificial scarcity element makes the M set a candidate for behaving like a cryptocurrency. The coin supply is ultimately set by how big our digital baskets be to receive this exotic fruit from this digital cornucopia. As the shores of the M set ocean recede, baskets will start to get small in the face of perpetual novel data generosity.

Computers used for mining could be dreaming about infinity while delivering the same blockchain economic technology. This incredibly enormous computing power can be employed to navigate in a sea of infinite novelty instead. After all, this M set phenomena was only discovered after computers came into existence, so its their dream time in more than one way. Perhaps we are not yet aware of the wider potential of one of the most enigmatic of all guests that has recently arrived to the digital party. Recording the M set may be a future seven wonders of the digital world as well.

Even Arthur C. Clark predicted in his  film "Fractals the colors of infinity" that “Fractal geometry, has enormous commercial value”. https://vimeo.com/15506693#t=1883s


What do you think?
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