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legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Block! by 1GT2... Smiley
The '2' together is ~330% oh well.
legendary
Activity: 4634
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
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what was the reason for the sudden drop in everyones hashrate after the "stale" block?
If you mean the pool graph, that's simply because the shift was so short.
Variance increases as the length of shifts get shorter.

In this case, fewer shares than expected got into the shift before it changed. Variance Smiley
It went from 33PHs to 29PHs - so about only 88% of expected shares in the short shift.
(the shift was 52s instead of the usual about 45minutes, so about 2% of a normal shift)
legendary
Activity: 4634
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Antpoo  Cry Cry
Nah, nothing to do with orphans, it was simply a stale block/share.

It was at the DE node - but probably came from russia so was a little slow all around.

The pool changed block work at 07:23:08.750

The DE node got the share after that at 07:23:09.135
The main node got the share at 07:23:09.213

As I've mentioned before, ckpool will treat pretty much any block that arrives as a block and try to process it, submit it and always report it to ckdb.
CKDB always shows all such shares - so I then have to check and decide what it really was.
In this case, simply a stale share, not an orphan.
legendary
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legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I always get bored when the pool goes above 30-31

We get less blocks and the block payment plummets

sorry but that's my reality

More than happy to be awakened by a new reality that includes a proportionate amount of blocks with higher hash.
30? What Huh
It was around 35 last time someone came up with comments about a hash rate jump above that bringing bad luck Tongue
I wonder how low it would have to go before that idea disappears ... hopefully wont happen ... ... ...


@Kano - I thought you might have guessed PHs

@CK - patterns fascinate me

Obviously a sensitive issue - so I will back off

Lets have some blocks then.......... We will all be happy



Cheers - usukan
Sensitive? No.
Just there is no pattern - even looking at the pool graph shows there is none.
This month has gone: ok just to start, down, up, down a little and that's it so far.
The pool hash rate has no matching pattern to that.
The hash rate this month has peaks in the days of good luck.

P.S. that block now was stale - late to get to the pool.
legendary
Activity: 1590
Merit: 1002
I always get bored when the pool goes above 30-31

We get less blocks and the block payment plummets

sorry but that's my reality

More than happy to be awakened by a new reality that includes a proportionate amount of blocks with higher hash.
30? What Huh
It was around 35 last time someone came up with comments about a hash rate jump above that bringing bad luck Tongue
I wonder how low it would have to go before that idea disappears ... hopefully wont happen ... ... ...


@Kano - I thought you might have guessed PHs

@CK - patterns fascinate me

Obviously a sensitive issue - so I will back off

Lets have some blocks then.......... We will all be happy



Cheers - usukan

-ck
legendary
Activity: 4088
Merit: 1631
Ruu \o/
I always get bored when the pool goes above 30-31

We get less blocks and the block payment plummets

sorry but that's my reality

More than happy to be awakened by a new reality that includes a proportionate amount of blocks with higher hash.
30? What Huh
It was around 35 last time someone came up with comments about a hash rate jump above that bringing bad luck Tongue
I wonder how low it would have to go before that idea disappears ... hopefully wont happen ... ... ...
I thought it was 40 before that. Well, any value will do, people love finding associations where there are none.
legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
I always get bored when the pool goes above 30-31

We get less blocks and the block payment plummets

sorry but that's my reality

More than happy to be awakened by a new reality that includes a proportionate amount of blocks with higher hash.
30? What Huh
It was around 35 last time someone came up with comments about a hash rate jump above that bringing bad luck Tongue
I wonder how low it would have to go before that idea disappears ... hopefully wont happen ... ... ...
legendary
Activity: 1590
Merit: 1002
I always get bored when the pool goes above 30-31

We get less blocks and the block payment plummets

sorry but that's my reality

More than happy to be awakened by a new reality that includes a proportionate amount of blocks with higher hash.

legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
Mining is hard and full of risks.

I finally got my hands on cheap power and now the newest gear with the best efficiency  ant miner s9s break a lot.

 So cheap power does not make me a big winner.

I will sit down and do a final break down of them when the time comes but they suck.

Kanos' pool earned me a full coin extra right before the ½ ing we were smoking hot.

That extra coin almost pulled me back to even.

Since post  ½ ing we are about even on luck.

But the lucky streak right before the ½ ing was nice.

We could use a red hot nov. maybe 105%.
legendary
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Although off topic, I will make comment about Avalon vs Bitmain since there is a bit of it going on.

Firstly, there really is no one other than these 2 companies out there.
Pity about that, since more products mean more competition, but that's the way it is at the moment.

The reality of it all will be to see how the A7s perform vs the S9s and what changes over the next 6 months for both companies.
I don't expect Bitmain to change. Avalon has already changed due to being bought by a large company and we'll see shortly how that has affected them.

Bitmain has clearly abused their power as the top honcho in producing a product that is not worthy of it's price due to reliability and support problems - and expected lifetime.

The Avalon A6 was a solidly built mining device and hopefully the A7 will be as good. We will see.
The only real issue I know of with the A6: is if you run it in a too hot environment - however, that's really not something that anyone should consider unexpected with mining hardware (or any computer hardware)

Hopefully Avalon will be good dealing with their customers with the A7s.
The Bitmain stories in here dealing with S9s have certainly not been in any way a positive comment about Bitmain.

If you only look at $ vs THs then you have clearly never mined before in your life, and you're about to get a rude shock if you buy mining hardware from anyone.
However, mining is not "Buy device, plug it in, forget it" - that really is ignoring reality.
In Bitmain's S9s case we've got plenty of people pointing out that is far from true, problems with them, problem dealing with Bitmain, and a clearly stated short expected lifetime from Bitmain - 3 months warranty.

We'll see what Avalon's A7s are like.

OK that's about as objective as I can be Cheesy

I agree with everything you have said, and like many here have mined with just about every major players hardware in the past, including the A6, which was reliable if not a little noisy. I've had my own problems with an S9, however I'd like to point out that maybe, the first sign of what you say about Avalon being bought by a large company is already playing out...

AvalonMiner 721 includes a 90-day warranty, starting from the date goods are received. Canaan guarantees a 90 days warranty from the first date you receive the goods. We promise to replace defective or faulty parts with new parts, but mining earnings will not be compensated. Buyers pay inbound shipping and we will pay the return shipping. Please note that we are not responsible for any loss caused by customs delays, losses or charges.
hero member
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Visualize whirledps
Come on BLOCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! It's TIME. NOW!!!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin

legendary
Activity: 4634
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Although off topic, I will make comment about Avalon vs Bitmain since there is a bit of it going on.

Firstly, there really is no one other than these 2 companies out there.
Pity about that, since more products mean more competition, but that's the way it is at the moment.

The reality of it all will be to see how the A7s perform vs the S9s and what changes over the next 6 months for both companies.
I don't expect Bitmain to change. Avalon has already changed due to being bought by a large company and we'll see shortly how that has affected them.

Bitmain has clearly abused their power as the top honcho in producing a product that is not worthy of it's price due to reliability and support problems - and expected lifetime.

The Avalon A6 was a solidly built mining device and hopefully the A7 will be as good. We will see.
The only real issue I know of with the A6: is if you run it in a too hot environment - however, that's really not something that anyone should consider unexpected with mining hardware (or any computer hardware)

Hopefully Avalon will be good dealing with their customers with the A7s.
The Bitmain stories in here dealing with S9s have certainly not been in any way a positive comment about Bitmain.

If you only look at $ vs THs then you have clearly never mined before in your life, and you're about to get a rude shock if you buy mining hardware from anyone.
However, mining is not "Buy device, plug it in, forget it" - that really is ignoring reality.
In Bitmain's S9s case we've got plenty of people pointing out that is far from true, problems with them, problem dealing with Bitmain, and a clearly stated short expected lifetime from Bitmain - 3 months warranty.

We'll see what Avalon's A7s are like.

OK that's about as objective as I can be Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
I want to know what makes them special enough to get that premium price. 
While the avalon hardware is popular with the pool operator here, I think your question is veering way offtopic for the pool thread itself.

sorry,  I just saw a lot of people posting that they purchased them on this thread so I figured it was a good place to ask the question. 

the antminer s9 breaks a lot

while it is cheaper per th

 I along with many others have had numerous boards and controllers fail..

If I add my rma and repair and spare part cost for the s9 it is about 670.  while I only purchased 6 s9's  for about 10,000

 so I go from 10,000 to 10,670  and my down time was a lot at least 330 lost in coins mined.  so I paid 11,000 for 70th.

this is 1936 for 12 th

so 157 usd a th s9
vs 162 usd a th a7

now if I get failures and down time  the A7  will be more then 162 usd a th  but at the moment in  my case the 157 vs 162 is close enough
member
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I want to know what makes them special enough to get that premium price. 
While the avalon hardware is popular with the pool operator here, I think your question is veering way offtopic for the pool thread itself.

sorry,  I just saw a lot of people posting that they purchased them on this thread so I figured it was a good place to ask the question. 
-ck
legendary
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Ruu \o/
I want to know what makes them special enough to get that premium price. 
While the avalon hardware is popular with the pool operator here, I think your question is veering way offtopic for the pool thread itself.
member
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So other than the fact that one is currently in stock and the other is not,  when you look at the raw numbers when compared to bitmains antminer to canaans 721

AvalonMiner 721
USD$888 (USD$148 /TH/s)
6 TH/s at 900W (150 W per TH/s)

vs.

Antminer S9-20
USD$1,550 (USD$119 /TH/s)
13 TH/s at 1,274W (98 W per TH/s)

There is no comparison, it is night and day.  You get more then twice the miner for your money.  Now I will say I have never mined with an Avalon, and I have always had really good success with antminers.  As a read through the comments I see several people buying them which is great, but what is the factor that is making you pull the trigger and spend extra money.  This is an honest question from those who have mined with Avalons, I want to know what makes them special enough to get that premium price. 

Thanks


legendary
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Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
I noticed recently (last few weeks) that they did a redesign on their ticket system, and a couple of other things. Their order system is recently changed as well (for the better, it would appear, in both instances). I think they're probably pretty busy at the moment trying to catch up with their own success. We saw that often when I was with the bank, looking at prospective factors/accts receivable credit lines for mfrs.

I'm interested to know from some of youz guyz if you paid for your 721s via PayPal, or wire, or BTC. I had to pay w/PayPal for the A6s. Just curious.

Onward.

There were no pay options listed when I place my order.  I'm hoping they provide the options when they contact me for payment.  PayPal would be fine Smiley

Come on Blocks!  Grin


Exchanged a few emails with Angela from their sales team today for my 20 units order.

They insisted on bank transfer only - as per their Finance Dept.

I am speechless.... no BTC?

So much for Canaan's corporate motto "Grow the Blockchain".
legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
I noticed recently (last few weeks) that they did a redesign on their ticket system, and a couple of other things. Their order system is recently changed as well (for the better, it would appear, in both instances). I think they're probably pretty busy at the moment trying to catch up with their own success. We saw that often when I was with the bank, looking at prospective factors/accts receivable credit lines for mfrs.

I'm interested to know from some of youz guyz if you paid for your 721s via PayPal, or wire, or BTC. I had to pay w/PayPal for the A6s. Just curious.

Onward.

There were no pay options listed when I place my order.  I'm hoping they provide the options when they contact me for payment.  PayPal would be fine Smiley

Come on Blocks!  Grin
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1003
I noticed recently (last few weeks) that they did a redesign on their ticket system, and a couple of other things. Their order system is recently changed as well (for the better, it would appear, in both instances). I think they're probably pretty busy at the moment trying to catch up with their own success. We saw that often when I was with the bank, looking at prospective factors/accts receivable credit lines for mfrs.

I'm interested to know from some of youz guyz if you paid for your 721s via PayPal, or wire, or BTC. I had to pay w/PayPal for the A6s. Just curious.

Onward.
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