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The person is trying to sell his book and make money out of it and everyone is thinking that what he said is inside information, but from the words the only thing i could understand was that he is speculating whether Pacquiao vs Bradley was a fix which means he is throwing names out so that he could attain the controversy he is looking for to sell his book.

I am sure that if he is sued for libel, he will only be happy as it will draw noise and attention to his book. But everyone understands everything, so they just ignore him (at least I have not heard of lawsuits against him). I am sure that if the court asks him about the facts, he will not be able to provide anything but will refer to freedom of speech and opinion.

Freedom of speech has its limits and it seems to me that this is grounds for a libel lawsuit, after all Manny has a reputation to take care not only as an athlete but also as a politician, and to say that one of this fights was fixed is probably one of the worst things you can say to a professional athlete, however if this is not really a big publication and no one really cares about it then it could be better to ignore it. as not doing so will just help this person to sell more books.

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Quote from: ene1980 on June 28, 2021, 06:48:59 PM

The person is trying to sell his book and make money out of it and everyone is thinking that what he said is inside information, but from the words the only thing i could understand was that he is speculating whether Pacquiao vs Bradley was a fix which means he is throwing names out so that he could attain the controversy he is looking for to sell his book.

I am sure that if he is sued for libel, he will only be happy as it will draw noise and attention to his book. But everyone understands everything, so they just ignore him (at least I have not heard of lawsuits against him). I am sure that if the court asks him about the facts, he will not be able to provide anything but will refer to freedom of speech and opinion.

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Quote from: yazher on June 25, 2021, 01:06:04 PM

This guy has all the answers that we were asking about the sports industries. So it's all about the money, fans are just some props to make everything sets. that's why before the start of the fight, both fighters have some kind of short talk to make things more exciting which is obviously part of the plan. no matter how serious they are in their conversations it's ready to set up and the reporter who gonna ask some questions is already scripted. I wonder if the NBA games are also part of this thing.

The person is trying to sell his book and make money out of it and everyone is thinking that what he said is inside information, but from the words the only thing i could understand was that he is speculating whether Pacquiao vs Bradley was a fix which means he is throwing names out so that he could attain the controversy he is looking for to sell his book.

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What about the Pacquiao vs Spencer fight this August? will this be involving Mafia also? sorry I'm curious if that person is a legit part of mafia then He'll be on this one also.

And even how legit that person, do you really think that he will give a statement for an upcoming match?

Why not ? he did even admit about what happened in the past so what is the difference between old and the upcoming ?

if he is truthful in His confession then he will reveal everything from the past to present and future.

You clearly didn't get what I'm pointing out in that quote.

If there's an upcoming match, like Pacquiao vs Spence this August, do you really expect that you can have a statement from him about that match becoming rigged or fixed?

No one will know until it happened.

No one will ever televised that the match will be a fixed match because the money wont come to them, they have to do this in contract to silence both parties and just play the game until someone recognize as a winner and the loser will get a higher reward. We can only sure that the match is not fixed if they are going to publish the contract which I doubt to happen ever on any matches.

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What about the Pacquiao vs Spencer fight this August? will this be involving Mafia also? sorry I'm curious if that person is a legit part of mafia then He'll be on this one also.

And even how legit that person, do you really think that he will give a statement for an upcoming match?

Why not ? he did even admit about what happened in the past so what is the difference between old and the upcoming ?

if he is truthful in His confession then he will reveal everything from the past to present and future.

You clearly didn't get what I'm pointing out in that quote.

If there's an upcoming match, like Pacquiao vs Spence this August, do you really expect that you can have a statement from him about that match becoming rigged or fixed?

No one will know until it happened.

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I thought that this is no longer existing so as he retires, it means that there are still ongoing operations with these fixed matches. Well, the money is big and they can live happily by just sitting while watching their money comes to them with those matches that they fix.

Aside from fight fixing, I remember the story of Michael Jordan when he's approached by a mafia to let the game lose but he declined, and then, a tragedy happened.

Match fixing has always existed but the more popular the sport and the bigger what is at stake the more difficult it is to do so, however we know this happens, there are many cases of some of the biggest sport events being fixed and the worst part is that is only what we know, what percentage is that from the overall number of matches that are fixed? Is it the majority or it is just a drop on the ocean and in fact a great deal of the sporting competitions that we see are in fact fixed? No one really knows the answer to that.

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It's all about connection and money. Many athletes agrees with it (even he'll lost) as their agreement of a fixed match because he'll get more money than the agreement amount, it's a win win of course and a practical way of giving titles to someone who needs it, unlike giving it for free. Mayweather and Pacquiao matched before was also fixed in my opinion, I mean, if you already watched it, you'll noticed that their moves is scripted and not giving all their might to defeat one of them.

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What about the Pacquiao vs Spencer fight this August? will this be involving Mafia also? sorry I'm curious if that person is a legit part of mafia then He'll be on this one also.

And even how legit that person, do you really think that he will give a statement for an upcoming match?

Why not ? he did even admit about what happened in the past so what is the difference between old and the upcoming ?

if he is truthful in His confession then he will reveal everything from the past to present and future.

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Quote from: just_Alice on June 19, 2021, 03:59:17 PM

Hahaha, amazing. Just this moment at 20:35 made me laugh so hard: "I wish I would've done more of it". It's really impressive how open Farrell is about it. Fight fixing is a serious illegal activity, one can be put in jail for that and be charged with a substantial fine.

I also found another interview from 2017 with him, it's not as informative as the new one, but I found it also quite entertaining.

If Charles Farrell is not lying, then this is terrible! Gambling should not be controlled by the mafia!

It is disgusting that psychological pressure is exerted on boxing athletes. Gangsters should not control sports and gambling.

I remember well the match between Pacio and Bradley. Both athletes are excellent boxers. However, I am in favor of fair competition. Match fixing is disgusting.

Bradley is a great boxer with good striking technique.

He has no reason to participate in the match fixing.

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Mafias Most Wanted Fight Fixer - Charles Farrell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DIX9ZvDkFc

this is just an interview of this man named Charles Farrell whom he claimed to be a fight fixer. he is there to promote his book "low life" which is about this mob who arrange some fights which they bet and the boxer they'd be rooting has to win. so they'd be talking to the referee and the boxers secretly like thugs. interesting discussion actaully. and it's funny somehow.

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley and he says here that in the mind of Pacquiao was that everyone can see that I will win this fight so it's not going to hurt him. Manny will still be the best money maker after this loss. It does mean like Manny was also being arranged.

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

I don't think what he says is true. Of course, it is probable, but probably it will never be verified, because certainly none of the players will admit it. On the other hand, I doubt anyone publicly admits to illegal things. In my opinion, it's just literary fiction.

The truth is we do not know that and we could only speculate. Only people involved in that match will know because if that match is fixing, they will hide that thing from the public. If that is right, maybe it needs investigation from the officers and association to solve the problem and not happen in the future. I think gambler does not care about that and if they win from that match, they will get their money.

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Mafias Most Wanted Fight Fixer - Charles Farrell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DIX9ZvDkFc

this is just an interview of this man named Charles Farrell whom he claimed to be a fight fixer. he is there to promote his book "low life" which is about this mob who arrange some fights which they bet and the boxer they'd be rooting has to win. so they'd be talking to the referee and the boxers secretly like thugs. interesting discussion actaully. and it's funny somehow.

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley and he says here that in the mind of Pacquiao was that everyone can see that I will win this fight so it's not going to hurt him. Manny will still be the best money maker after this loss. It does mean like Manny was also being arranged.

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

I don't think what he says is true. Of course, it is probable, but probably it will never be verified, because certainly none of the players will admit it. On the other hand, I doubt anyone publicly admits to illegal things. In my opinion, it's just literary fiction.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

Well we all knew that mob fixed fights but that is not really something we should be shocked about, is it? I mean let's face it we are talking about something that is just way too obvious and was nearly open to public as well, we all knew it. However, I do not believe that the same thing is going on these days, it is just not the same thing and the top level fighters in boxing and in UFC are getting paid huge bucks these days and I do not think that they would be looking at mobs that much.

You really think that "rocky" is just a movie? There was a point in the history where almost all the boxers came from mob background because someone who fights well usually didn't get paid much in boxing when they first start, they get beaten up and they just get very tiny amount of money whereas when we are talking about mobs? They paid you very big bucks when you beat people for them. Not like that anymore, fighters are getting good amount even at the lowest end nowadays.

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Exhibition fights in general are fixed fights. Not in a sense then somebody really had to fix them as the mob did, but in a sense that in most cases fighters will not treat it like a real fight, and will not go in for the kill, agnowlaged by both fighters, it usually is only for show and that's it. The same principle applies to Mayweather vs Paul.

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Quote from: yazher on June 25, 2021, 01:06:04 PM

So it's all about the money, fans are just some props to make everything sets. that's why before the start of the fight, both fighters have some kind of short talk to make things more exciting which is obviously part of the plan. ..

I don't think that both players/fighters/teams knows about such kind of scheme on their very fight, I'm convinced that one of them is just a victim of more powerful people who's behind of such scheme. But some times maybe both parties knows, they just let their fans look like a fool.

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Quote from: Saisher on June 24, 2021, 06:23:59 PM

It's a very long video over one hour but game-fixing do exist it's an industry secret I don't know much about the guy but he is inviting controversy I don't know his book but could be a compilation of past big fights that are fixed and what methods they are using to manipulate those fights, but I don't like the part that Pacquiao is also bribed to fix the match, the man is fighting for the legacy he already had a lot of money and going to make a lot more if he wins, I don't think he can be bribe.

Fixing happens in every other sport but people usually avoid talking about it because it is such a thing that once you talk about it, you have to get dirty. I can tell you that even the biggest leagues fix games and even the matches in sports like tennis at the highest level are fixed as even Djokovic revealed he was contacted by one such guy. Imagine how one is able to get in touch with Djokovic let alone whether he failed to fix the game.

If one follows NBA, they must have seen how home teams are given a certain advantage in terms of referee decision making and in the biggest games, NBA will always ask their officials to favor the calls towards the team that is crowd favorite because it brings them more views and hence more revenue.

To get an idea of how much home-court advantage might exist in the NBA, you should visit this article: https://pudding.cool/2017/03/home-court/

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Quote from: livingfree on June 24, 2021, 02:07:20 PM

I thought that this is no longer existing so as he retires, it means that there are still ongoing operations with these fixed matches.

That won't end. The organization is so big and they can influence even the top individuals.

Yeah, that's for sure and it's not just a secret organization that people won't know. Although they've been exposed, there's no way to stop them and even the top officials of these sporting events, they can't do something with it or they'll put their lives on the line.

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I remember the story of Michael Jordan when he's approached by a mafia to let the game lose but he declined, and then, a tragedy happened.

Based on "The Last Dance", that tragedy is not related to where Chicago Bulls should lose to a certain game.

It's more related to Michael Jordan's gambling habit which is no secret that during that time, he is addicted too much to gambling and finds ways to gamble alongside his basketball activity.

Thanks for that, I haven't watched the film yet.

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This guy has all the answers that we were asking about the sports industries. So it's all about the money, fans are just some props to make everything sets. that's why before the start of the fight, both fighters have some kind of short talk to make things more exciting which is obviously part of the plan. no matter how serious they are in their conversations it's ready to set up and the reporter who gonna ask some questions is already scripted. I wonder if the NBA games are also part of this thing.

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the people involve don't wanna talk about it either. if they do they are not just disappointing the mobs but the people watching the fights. the fans will feel like they are fooled.

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Hahaha, amazing. Just this moment at 20:35 made me laugh so hard: "I wish I would've done more of it". It's really impressive how open Farrell is about it. Fight fixing is a serious illegal activity, one can be put in jail for that and be charged with a substantial fine.

I also found another interview from 2017 with him, it's not as informative as the new one, but I found it also quite entertaining.

This is common with criminals, most of them will eventually be caught and be on prison or worst but there is a small amount that will escape that fate through luck alone and then instead of actually being happy they were able to escape their fate they instead think that they should have committed even more crimes, fixing a boxing match is a crime almost everywhere and I do not know if he is going to escape the jail now that he is basically confessing about doing it.

in that interview, link dropped by Alice, Farell named few boxers he actually fixed which he did go to such length like managing a boxer himself and then adjusted an 8round match to 10rounds when he sees his man isn't winning. jezz if he'd do this today he'd be in big trouble.

i didnt really googled Farrell but he seem to be around for awhile talking about fixing fights in some article sites.

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Quote from: just_Alice on June 19, 2021, 03:59:17 PM

Hahaha, amazing. Just this moment at 20:35 made me laugh so hard: "I wish I would've done more of it". It's really impressive how open Farrell is about it. Fight fixing is a serious illegal activity, one can be put in jail for that and be charged with a substantial fine.

That interview and book are going to be like a pandora's box, there are organizations and gangster that will be put in the spotlight and he could be in big trouble unless he got the consent of these people and organizations, game fixing is an open secret, there's a lot of allegations but no concrete evidence because people do not want to cooperate and they want solid evidences.

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It's a very long video over one hour but game-fixing do exist it's an industry secret I don't know much about the guy but he is inviting controversy I don't know his book but could be a compilation of past big fights that are fixed and what methods they are using to manipulate those fights, but I don't like the part that Pacquiao is also bribed to fix the match, the man is fighting for the legacy he already had a lot of money and going to make a lot more if he wins, I don't think he can be bribe.

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I agree with you. I can believe in corruption and various undercover games of large corporations, but the mafia is a matter of days gone by. In a sense, the mafia lost the fight not only to the police, but also to large corporations that are interested in the competition being fair.

I think it depends on the influence the mafias have inside a niche of the industry. Maybe it still exists nowadays. If they are the main sponsors of a championship, for an example, there are serious chances they will use this influence to abuse the competition's legitimacy. And in fact there are lots of mafias around the world operating in different countries, under different leaderships. It's hard to know the range of influence each of these groups keep, also because people under their rule can't talk freely about the subject, especially athletes and those who work with them daily.

I am sure that the mafia, in its classical sense, has no influence in any even slightly serious area of the sports business. Everything belongs to large corporations, they are very similar to the mafia, but they operate in a legal field and any smaller crime has no chance against them.

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It's more related to Michael Jordan's gambling habit which is no secret that during that time, he is addicted too much to gambling and finds ways to gamble alongside his basketball activity.

Michael Jordan had a serious gambling addiction and what we still do not know is that whether he placed a bet on the matches he played and it is not public yet but i am certain that he would have placed a bet on almost all of the matches he played.

There are other stars that were gambling addicts like Charles Barkley, Pete Rose and even Wayne Rooney and the question that bugs is that whether these players played differently because they placed a bet on the game and most certainly they did.

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I would not be surprised if there will be some big fights that are fixed considering how this has been going on for decades. On exhibition matches however, I don't think bookies will ever consider a "draw" line since some of matches really have a disparity in terms of experience, skill, and some other stats. Since this is just an exhibition match, the organizers would be fine to just turn it into a draw for most of the time and applaud the participants for showing up and giving a "great" fight.

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Really interesting story, I enjoy reading about the Mafia. It is probably the only criminal organisation where it is cool to be a member off. But how can you just go public and write about your book about the gold old days? Isn't it too dangerous? Always thought that the Mafia has a code of silence, and if you violate it than the Don will send his guys over for a visit. Also, I think you need to very secretive when fixing matches, because if it comes out you will be banned for life. If too many people know about the fixed match than the bookmaker will notice the proportional high number of winners and the bets might be cancelled.

There are a lot of Mafia whistleblowers who are still alive right now.

I agree with @harizen that the tragedy has nothing to do with Mafia though.

@bitterguy28 - I don't think that the Pacquiao vs Spence is going to be fixed or at least the Mafia will be involved on it.

And this sort of game fixing is really hard to see, unless the personalities involved really claim it to be.

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Quote from: livingfree on June 24, 2021, 02:07:20 PM

I thought that this is no longer existing so as he retires, it means that there are still ongoing operations with these fixed matches.

That won't end. The organization is so big and they can influence even the top individuals.

Quote from: livingfree on June 24, 2021, 02:07:20 PM

I remember the story of Michael Jordan when he's approached by a mafia to let the game lose but he declined, and then, a tragedy happened.

Based on "The Last Dance", that tragedy is not related to where Chicago Bulls should lose to a certain game.

It's more related to Michael Jordan's gambling habit which is no secret that during that time, he is addicted too much to gambling and finds ways to gamble alongside his basketball activity.

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Quote from: livingfree on June 24, 2021, 02:07:20 PM

I thought that this is no longer existing so as he retires, it means that there are still ongoing operations with these fixed matches. Well, the money is big and they can live happily by just sitting while watching their money comes to them with those matches that they fix.

Aside from fight fixing, I remember the story of Michael Jordan when he's approached by a mafia to let the game lose but he declined, and then, a tragedy happened.

Those are the things that this mafias can do, aside from offering huge amounts of money, they are also using kinds of things that players/fighters are unable to resist.

Those past headlines that includes MJ's father are really controversial, some might not been reported but it's really happening.

Those fixers and those mobs are circling around the gambling places waiting for the next target that will generates huge amounts
of money that will move anyone once they've start working on it.

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The Mafia might have had influence in the 1970 and 1980 to fix fights in the US but now it is impossible that the mafia could control anything by force, they might influence the judges by paying them well and usually these things will not come out in the public unless there is a serious heat to catch these manipulators.

I do not think Manny fight was fixed and nor does Mayweather and Logan Paul exhibition fight, these mafia takeover in sports is possible in Japan but not in the US.

I agree with you. I can believe in corruption and various undercover games of large corporations, but the mafia is a matter of days gone by. In a sense, the mafia lost the fight not only to the police, but also to large corporations that are interested in the competition being fair.

I think it depends on the influence the mafias have inside a niche of the industry. Maybe it still exists nowadays. If they are the main sponsors of a championship, for an example, there are serious chances they will use this influence to abuse the competition's legitimacy. And in fact there are lots of mafias around the world operating in different countries, under different leaderships. It's hard to know the range of influence each of these groups keep, also because people under their rule can't talk freely about the subject, especially athletes and those who work with them daily.

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I thought that this is no longer existing so as he retires, it means that there are still ongoing operations with these fixed matches. Well, the money is big and they can live happily by just sitting while watching their money comes to them with those matches that they fix.

Aside from fight fixing, I remember the story of Michael Jordan when he's approached by a mafia to let the game lose but he declined, and then, a tragedy happened.

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Quote from: just_Alice on June 19, 2021, 03:59:17 PM

Hahaha, amazing. Just this moment at 20:35 made me laugh so hard: "I wish I would've done more of it". It's really impressive how open Farrell is about it. Fight fixing is a serious illegal activity, one can be put in jail for that and be charged with a substantial fine.

I also found another interview from 2017 with him, it's not as informative as the new one, but I found it also quite entertaining.

This is common with criminals, most of them will eventually be caught and be on prison or worst but there is a small amount that will escape that fate through luck alone and then instead of actually being happy they were able to escape their fate they instead think that they should have committed even more crimes, fixing a boxing match is a crime almost everywhere and I do not know if he is going to escape the jail now that he is basically confessing about doing it.

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Mafia in a match in any sport is a concern so far, because for now it looks like the athletes involved are also doing well so it is not easy to uncover. There have been several cases of arrangements like this that were exposed quickly in the past because the athletes involved were not so professional in doing so that they were easily dismantled, but for athletes who are good at hiding cheating then of course cases like this must be destroyed because they damage the morale of the athletes themselves.

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Really interesting story, I enjoy reading about the Mafia. It is probably the only criminal organisation where it is cool to be a member off. But how can you just go public and write about your book about the gold old days? Isn't it too dangerous? Always thought that the Mafia has a code of silence, and if you violate it than the Don will send his guys over for a visit. Also, I think you need to very secretive when fixing matches, because if it comes out you will be banned for life. If too many people know about the fixed match than the bookmaker will notice the proportional high number of winners and the bets might be cancelled.

All Mafia stories are interesting! And when too many people know about the fixed match and they place a bet, be sure that Mafia took care and it will happen otherwise... people will lose, bookmakers (Mafia) will win!
I guess it's dangerous to reveal these things, but some people are brave enough to do it, probably for all sorts of reasons they can decide to share their story! In this interview, Charles Farrell looks very relaxing while he talks about his life, we can only guess that he covered himself somehow!

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Quote from: ene1980 on June 22, 2021, 05:48:12 PM

The Mafia might have had influence in the 1970 and 1980 to fix fights in the US but now it is impossible that the mafia could control anything by force, they might influence the judges by paying them well and usually these things will not come out in the public unless there is a serious heat to catch these manipulators.

I do not think Manny fight was fixed and nor does Mayweather and Logan Paul exhibition fight, these mafia takeover in sports is possible in Japan but not in the US.

I agree with you. I can believe in corruption and various undercover games of large corporations, but the mafia is a matter of days gone by. In a sense, the mafia lost the fight not only to the police, but also to large corporations that are interested in the competition being fair.

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~all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

The Mafia might have had influence in the 1970 and 1980 to fix fights in the US but now it is impossible that the mafia could control anything by force, they might influence the judges by paying them well and usually these things will not come out in the public unless there is a serious heat to catch these manipulators.

I do not think Manny fight was fixed and nor does Mayweather and Logan Paul exhibition fight, these mafia takeover in sports is possible in Japan but not in the US.

lots of mobs during those times from rich jews, russians, italians, cubans, irish but the chinese i think still are still active. somehow from the business news i've read they own part of hollywood businesses. when there is money to make, mobs are somehow there in the background.

that farell guy must have only tried fixing in boxing sports. but he also mentioned in the interview about the horse race which he said theres also fixing in that sport.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

~all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

The Mafia might have had influence in the 1970 and 1980 to fix fights in the US but now it is impossible that the mafia could control anything by force, they might influence the judges by paying them well and usually these things will not come out in the public unless there is a serious heat to catch these manipulators.

I do not think Manny fight was fixed and nor does Mayweather and Logan Paul exhibition fight, these mafia takeover in sports is possible in Japan but not in the US.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley and he says here that in the mind of Pacquiao was that everyone can see that I will win this fight so it's not going to hurt him. Manny will still be the best money maker after this loss. It does mean like Manny was also being arranged.

Pacquiao being robbed by judges parallels GGG being robbed vs Canelo, twice.

Manny Pacquiao stopped fighting in Las Vegas for years after his controversial loss to Bradley and controversial coverage of his fight vs Floyd. Which seems like silent protest on his part towards how he was treated.

Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting.

The way Logan Paul unloaded everything he had on Floyd in round 1 says it wasn't a fixed fight.

Floyd didn't hold back, either. Logan Paul's 40 pound weight advantage on Floyd helped him survive. He denied Floyd the chance for a finish with the constant holding and clinching.

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Quote from: bitterguy28 on June 22, 2021, 06:46:01 AM

What about the Pacquiao vs Spencer fight this August? will this be involving Mafia also? sorry I'm curious if that person is a legit part of mafia then He'll be on this one also.

That question can't be answered now. There is no way a match can be determined if it will be influenced by the Mafia or not.

And even how legit that person, do you really think that he will give a statement for an upcoming match?

If there are obvious flaws in that upcoming match, we can all see it. Let's wait for that day.

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this is just an interview of this man named Charles Farrell whom he claimed to be a fight fixer. he is there to promote his book "low life" which is about this mob who arrange some fights which they bet and the boxer they'd be rooting has to win. so they'd be talking to the referee and the boxers secretly like thugs. interesting discussion actaully. and it's funny somehow.

He is so brave to expose these anomalies, maybe he is not afraid anymore because he already has a lot of money to protect himself from the mobs and from authorities that he will expose, but it's a risky move, or the authorities might take him as a joke because of his reputation, either way, he just proves that the world of sports are open to manipulation and authorities can only do little to stop it.

No longer secret for sure, but most of the time there's no evidence even the fight are obviously being rigged, not related to any fight but last few months ago there's a basketball league which been investigated due to game fixing, those players that involved get their sanctions,.

If there's really solid proof that those fight his claiming that being rigged by mobs he can get drag on it , though since those things happened before and there none who can prove anything, this kind of statement will simply ignored and passed by.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on June 22, 2021, 06:08:00 AM

I think it really happens most of the time but aren't these are all just conspiracy theories from him? Good thing he wasn't sued for this from the things he did? I guess there will be people out there watching this was truly upset especially those matches that mentioned here.

I think the side that was mentioned by him doesn't want to bother although, I find it kind of a defamation lawsuit is appropriate for this one since he tries to say that the fights are fixed but I guess they don't want to do anything with it because they might be hiding something besides that.

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Match fixing by the high level bookies is not new to the market and it is becoming one of the main profits generating illegal activity in many games like cricket, fighting,racing as you can easily trick the people with some twists and keep them interested till the last moment.You turn out the coins for which high bets have been made and people think that it was just their bad day.He has exposed some dark secrets through this and hope everybody learn some things to keep in mind later on.As said by others also I am interested who will be winning the upcoming fight between Logan Paul and Mayweather which is one of the most hyped fight this time.Maybe match fixers already knows who's gonna win.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

Mafias Most Wanted Fight Fixer - Charles Farrell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DIX9ZvDkFc

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley and he says here that in the mind of Pacquiao was that everyone can see that I will win this fight so it's not going to hurt him. Manny will still be the best money maker after this loss. It does mean like Manny was also being arranged.

What about the Pacquiao vs Spencer fight this August? will this be involving Mafia also? sorry I'm curious if that person is a legit part of mafia then He'll be on this one also.

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I think it really happens most of the time but aren't these are all just conspiracy theories from him? Good thing he wasn't sued for this from the things he did? I guess there will be people out there watching this was truly upset especially those matches that mentioned here.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

this is just an interview of this man named Charles Farrell whom he claimed to be a fight fixer. he is there to promote his book "low life" which is about this mob who arrange some fights which they bet and the boxer they'd be rooting has to win. so they'd be talking to the referee and the boxers secretly like thugs. interesting discussion actaully. and it's funny somehow.

He is so brave to expose these anomalies, maybe he is not afraid anymore because he already has a lot of money to protect himself from the mobs and from authorities that he will expose, but it's a risky move, or the authorities might take him as a joke because of his reputation, either way, he just proves that the world of sports are open to manipulation and authorities can only do little to stop it.

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this guy has the guts to public his name and sell his books despite of what he did because what he did was a crime and its illegal .
isnt he scared that police will hunt him but for the boxers and referee its hard to say no because number 1 , there must be a big money offered to them and number 2 if they refused to this , their life would be in great danger .

sometimes it's just the two fighters who fix themselves according to him somewhat in this part. i couldn't imagine how the discussion will go. it's illegal but there is no one there to prosecute because basically, the fight is real.

a well-known Chinese politician for example who has the connection known for goons sits in the corner of a fighter. the goons probably had already paid each fighter a visit before the fight. they all will just put a show because someone is going to be in distress if the fight doesn't end the way they want it. most of the time these politicians and popular individuals stay close to the money maker/crowd's favorite fighter too.

popular individual that sits beside the fighter makes the match real ? but if its fixed its fixed . real match are only the match that was not fixed . fixed matches will look real if the watcher dont have an idea that the match was fixed .

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I am not saying it isn't real. But how do you know that it is real? If we are not to conclude that something does not exist because it is not openly revealed or is beyond the knowledge of anybody, then how do we know that it is real?

What do you mean by imagination and conspiracy theory though? I would say that you pretty much said that it isn't real. I do know that it is real because there are cases that people got caught fixing matches and racketeering, that's the reason why I know it's real.

It is self explanatory. Like I said, the mentioning of Pacquiao-Bradley and Mayweather-Logan, for example, as Mafia-fixed matches are true only insofar as our imagination and speculations are concerned. Do we have anything to put on the table as hard and undeniable proofs that both matches are indeed arranged according to the preference of the Mafia? Nothing. We have nothing. We can only offer our suspicions and conspiracy theories.

I also know match fixing is real based on what you've said. But outside of those, baseless rumors of Mafia-fixed matches are cheap talks.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting.

That is different if we compare it to Pacquiao vs Bradley fight which is a title match. On that exhibition match between Mayweather and Logan Paul, there's no need for any Mafia's presence just to fixed and rigged that match. Both parties surely have an agreement prior to the fight.

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should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

I don't see it that way. I'm expecting the odds of DRAW in the future exhibition match involving Mayweather won't be that attractive.

Odds provider knows that already so they are sure to make adjustments. And besides, official rules of the said match are surely released before they will release an odds.

would you say the mafia is present if it was Mayweather who won against Logan? to me and most probably the rest who watched the fight could say Floyd got it.

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I am not saying it isn't real. But how do you know that it is real? If we are not to conclude that something does not exist because it is not openly revealed or is beyond the knowledge of anybody, then how do we know that it is real?

What do you mean by imagination and conspiracy theory though? I would say that you pretty much said that it isn't real. I do know that it is real because there are cases that people got caught fixing matches and racketeering, that's the reason why I know it's real.

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Also, Mafia-arranged games are mostly just imaginations and conspiracy theories. It is either there is a clear evidence and legal conviction of the perpetrators or everything is purely just speculations.

I don't think so, there are some reported cases of these events and they aren't just public knowledge because the fighters involved just wants to keep it under wraps because they have a reputation to uphold. Just because you don't know anything or you don't know it exists doesn't mean that it isn't real.

I am not saying it isn't real. But how do you know that it is real? If we are not to conclude that something does not exist because it is not openly revealed or is beyond the knowledge of anybody, then how do we know that it is real?

For example, OP mentions Pacquiao-Bradley and Mayweather-Logan fights. Are they really arranged fights? Does Mafia have a hand in the results of these two fights? What do we know of it? What do we have to prove that these matches are indeed fixed by the Mafia?

I'm saying that without clear evidences, legal decisions on such cases, proven testimonies, and so on, these talks are all speculations.

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The thing I don't get is why is he doing that anyway? What's the point?

He will sell his book about his experience in a fixed match. A good exposure indeed to promote his product

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This news is not new anymore because I've seen a lot of fight that is so unbelievably rigged. Even in other sports it do exist not just in boxing and I find it too dirty since it's like manipulating the people's money. They might be changing odds here if they want so that people would bet on the highest odds yet they will bet on the losing one because they already know the fight is fixed. I don't like this though because it seems that everyone who got involved could just easily run away after they were getting paid e.g. judges or the referee.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

You really think Floyd Mayweather needs dirty money from mafia? Huh

This guy doesn't need to take risks of ruining his reputation for some dollars, he certainly doesn't even need the money of the fight against Logan Paul. He did it just for the fun. Mayweather doesn't live in a third world country like Pacquiao so there is no need for him to deal with mafia to be able to practice his sport and to earn money.

And BTW, no his fight against Logan Paul didn't end in a draw, if there were judges, Mayweather would have won by unanimous decision.

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Quote from: Chato1977 on June 20, 2021, 10:15:47 PM

Why does this topic or news comes out even before the incoming fight of Manny pacquiao ? is this some kind of advertising ?

and is He dying that's why he is making his last statements ? i know how Mafia moves and surely they will kill Him from exposing this if it is true.

He obviously has made some arrangements and has everything covered, he said it himself. The thing I don't get is why is he doing that anyway? What's the point? Even having everything covered doesn't quite guarantee your safety because..well because it's mafia. Is it just to become popular, and, if so, is it really worth it?
Or maybe he's just making this up because without exposure of some more detailed info there's no guarantee he's telling the truth.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting.

That is different if we compare it to Pacquiao vs Bradley fight which is a title match. On that exhibition match between Mayweather and Logan Paul, there's no need for any Mafia's presence just to fixed and rigged that match. Both parties surely have an agreement prior to the fight.

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should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

I don't see it that way. I'm expecting the odds of DRAW in the future exhibition match involving Mayweather won't be that attractive.

Odds provider knows that already so they are sure to make adjustments. And besides, official rules of the said match are surely released before they will release an odds.

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~ we need to put an end to this kind of misbehavior of manipulating games, Is bad and cruel to profit from that sort of thing. imagine someone spending time doing game analysis and spending money to find out that the game was manipulated in the end, this destroys the person who lost bet and money

Firstly, we can never completely get rid of manipulations in sports, as it is a hidden business, and secondly, when participating in betting a person must be aware of the risks and the money he can lose. It is always necessary to take into account that any match can become a sham.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on June 20, 2021, 11:44:50 PM

this guy has the guts to public his name and sell his books despite of what he did because what he did was a crime and its illegal .
isnt he scared that police will hunt him but for the boxers and referee its hard to say no because number 1 , there must be a big money offered to them and number 2 if they refused to this , their life would be in great danger .

sometimes it's just the two fighters who fix themselves according to him somewhat in this part. i couldn't imagine how the discussion will go. it's illegal but there is no one there to prosecute because basically, the fight is real.

a well-known Chinese politician for example who has the connection known for goons sits in the corner of a fighter. the goons probably had already paid each fighter a visit before the fight. they all will just put a show because someone is going to be in distress if the fight doesn't end the way they want it. most of the time these politicians and popular individuals stay close to the money maker/crowd's favorite fighter too.

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this guy has the guts to public his name and sell his books despite of what he did because what he did was a crime and its illegal .
isnt he scared that police will hunt him but for the boxers and referee its hard to say no because number 1 , there must be a big money offered to them and number 2 if they refused to this , their life would be in great danger .

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Fixed or not, it really doesn't matter to be honest because in the end, they got what they need which is people watching the fight which is enough for them plus organized crime in 21st century is not that active anymore and the law enforcement agency will probably catch up to them.

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Also, Mafia-arranged games are mostly just imaginations and conspiracy theories. It is either there is a clear evidence and legal conviction of the perpetrators or everything is purely just speculations.

I don't think so, there are some reported cases of these events and they aren't just public knowledge because the fighters involved just wants to keep it under wraps because they have a reputation to uphold. Just because you don't know anything or you don't know it exists doesn't mean that it isn't real.

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Quote from: Chato1977 on June 20, 2021, 10:15:47 PM

Why does this topic or news comes out even before the incoming fight of Manny pacquiao ? is this some kind of advertising ?

Nope, I don't think this is a form of advertising. This has nothing to do with the upcoming fight of Manny Pacquiao against Errol Spence Jr. The Pacquiao-Bradley fight was only made as an example by the OP probably because it was a fight that seemed to heavily favor Pacquiao in the eyes of many spectators, both ordinary boxing fans and sports commentators and boxing analysts. But it was given to Bradley. It was a rub out. That is why speculations were rising that the Mafia was involved.

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Why does this topic or news comes out even before the incoming fight of Manny pacquiao ? is this some kind of advertising ?

and is He dying that's why he is making his last statements ? i know how Mafia moves and surely they will kill Him from exposing this if it is true.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

I don't even make bets on exhibition fights. I am not that interested in them. I think it is not worth gambling. The stake between fighters are very low. They are mostly doing their thing for the sake of entertainment or mainly for money. So if the fight has also professional judges giving the official decision as to who wins and who loses, they will probably score it in a way not as serious as judging a professional match.

Also, Mafia-arranged games are mostly just imaginations and conspiracy theories. It is either there is a clear evidence and legal conviction of the perpetrators or everything is purely just speculations.

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It may well be the case that this Farrell guy isn't legit, though. I highly doubt that actual high profile fight-fixers would willingly expose themselves due to potential trouble with law enforcement and retaliation from the underworld who lost money on bets, but they are certainly out there.

If it is about all book that he is promoting and to make money out of it, it's not even worth it, he will be in trouble all his life, from the authorities from organizations and from the syndicate, he is limiting himself for this and he will be targeted for liquidation at worse, there are many rumors about mafia involvement but no one's coming out to expose this, until this one, hope he has all the means to protect himself.

you just said it yourself no one coming out because authorities, not just the mafia members will soon come after this whistleblower. they protect each other much like how bike gang members protect each other.

we just see them in movies these days. if you watch the full video he actually said he was in hiding from this sports mafia and in the interview he also said he isn't naming anyone. of course, can' verify these to be true. chances are that he goes out now because the old folks he once associated with are dead.

for someone old as this guy, i'm not sure if he will still lie. probably just need legacy.

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Quote from: magneto on June 20, 2021, 04:24:15 AM

It may well be the case that this Farrell guy isn't legit, though. I highly doubt that actual high profile fight-fixers would willingly expose themselves due to potential trouble with law enforcement and retaliation from the underworld who lost money on bets, but they are certainly out there.

If it is about all book that he is promoting and to make money out of it, it's not even worth it, he will be in trouble all his life, from the authorities from organizations and from the syndicate, he is limiting himself for this and he will be targeted for liquidation at worse, there are many rumors about mafia involvement but no one's coming out to expose this, until this one, hope he has all the means to protect himself.

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Quote from: madnessteat on June 20, 2021, 03:35:04 PM

I think Charles Farrell may be in trouble now because of this interview.

I believe that what he said if proven then it is a crime, at least in my country and in many countries, it is a crime to manipulate in fights or in any other sport and also people who lose money thanks to manipulated games may want to do justice by physically hurting those responsible for manipulating the games. I doubt that anyone would be happy to lose a bet on a rigged game, I talked about my country's sport, one of the reasons why I do not like to bet on my country's soccer games Is because I suspect that there are rigged games

we need to put an end to this kind of misbehavior of manipulating games, Is bad and cruel to profit from that sort of thing. imagine someone spending time doing game analysis and spending money to find out that the game was manipulated in the end, this destroys the person who lost bet and money

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we know all, very well, that every sport event can be rigged.

about the option "draw" not available, this is a fault of gambler. If you don't see an option for bet you're playing with an handicap.
What about exchange market like betfair? if it was available in exchange probably Mayweather was quoted at @1.02 Cheesy

crazy odds...
with such odds, and these types of "events" (no real tournament) I will never try the obviously bet....

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

It could very well be fixed, I won't deny such a possibility because a colossal amount of money was involved. But I don't think it was fixed because look from what I know, all the sportsbooks, at least the crypto ones I play at, removed the lines and voided all such bets because the fight had no official judges to determine a winner.

If no book accepts betting on the event how come it would be fixed because the bettors can't win anything from the fight. Maybe some books accepted wager but since there was no winner then how would the bets be settled? Did the bettors bet on under/over for rounds? Only those bets can be settled I mean.

Fixing happens in all sports so very well could happen in boxing and MMA too but I think this is one of the least rigged sports from my observation because if you fight for losing, you will look awkward since the opponent is always coming for your head.

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Where there is a lot of money, there will always be all kinds of collusion and manipulation. We are all human beings and want to get by in life, so I am not at all surprised that many famous athletes and referees agree to participate in this kind of manipulation.

I think Charles Farrell may be in trouble now because of this interview.

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In any case, Pacquiao already avenge his defeat.

A sweet revenge indeed.

I don't know if the fight between pacman and the aussie boxer is a fixed fight but that was robbed as hell or just the judges is sleepy to compute their score cards.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

Mafias Most Wanted Fight Fixer - Charles Farrell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DIX9ZvDkFc

this is just an interview of this man named Charles Farrell whom he claimed to be a fight fixer. he is there to promote his book "low life" which is about this mob who arrange some fights which they bet and the boxer they'd be rooting has to win. so they'd be talking to the referee and the boxers secretly like thugs. interesting discussion actaully. and it's funny somehow.

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley and he says here that in the mind of Pacquiao was that everyone can see that I will win this fight so it's not going to hurt him. Manny will still be the best money maker after this loss. It does mean like Manny was also being arranged.

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

It's always fascinating getting a brief glimpse of the underworld and it most often comes after the people involved no longer have anything left to lose. In this case the guy is retired and probably has enough money to live the comfortable life he wants. It goes to show that even at the very top level of sports that it can be fixed in different ways, who knows if the fighters are involved when the judges can be fixing the scores regardless. There might be multiple different levels to it and it could change in-play based on fighter performance or signals. Lots of money is paid to host events with these fighters, so if the organizer was able to somehow rig it (much more acceptable in "friendly" matches) then they could recoup huge costs.

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all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

That Bradley-Pacquiao match sounds more realistic, though.

Yeah, I still remember that fight, remember the date and where am I watching it because I was stun by the results. It was a clear victory for Pacquiao but the judges watches a different fight.

In any case, Pacquiao already avenge his defeat. I would say even the exhibition match between Tyson and Roy Jones is fixed, not sure if Mafia is involved though. Mayweather vs Logan is one scam fight.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

It is funny how you think the Mafia is actually stooping so low as to fix an exhibition fight. And not just any exhibition fight at that, it was an exhibition fight between an undefeated boxer, who has also gone cheap by fighting against anybody just for the money, and a Youtuber. I don't know, your suspicion may have some truth but I think the Mafia has a very poor taste if they had chosen to fix that trash of a battle.

That Bradley-Pacquiao match sounds more realistic, though.

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Not sure what you expected out of Logan vs. Mayweather. The fight was planned to be a money grab for both parties involved from the very start.

In terms of match fixing in actual fights, I think that it's probably a lot more widespread than people think.

It may well be the case that this Farrell guy isn't legit, though. I highly doubt that actual high profile fight-fixers would willingly expose themselves due to potential trouble with law enforcement and retaliation from the underworld who lost money on bets, but they are certainly out there.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley and he says here that in the mind of Pacquiao was that everyone can see that I will win this fight so it's not going to hurt him. Manny will still be the best money maker after this loss. It does mean like Manny was also being arranged.

I think most of us saw the match, it's obvious that the game was one-sided and Manny won that game. As a Filipino who is proud of Manny being a boxer, I know in my heart he won that fight without using any stat sheet.
Mayweather was also recognized in the video and just as we thought, he ain't going to lose any game for the money to keep on coming in.
Many gamblers will keep on betting against him just to see how he will react when he loses 1 match, but if the Mafia let's him lose, his market will go down substantially and making him worthless when he enters the ring.
There is one way to defeat him, knock him down without waking up until the referees is forced to stop it. Grin

Even with the payroll of Mafia if it's live television there is no way they can stop that.

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Quote from: bL4nkcode on June 19, 2021, 06:59:15 PM

Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

That is obviously a yes, as there are many mayweather fights that looks like a fix fight to me especially for split decisions and its an obvious one.

Even its just an exhibition fight when we talk about the logan and mayweather

This is why there is no reading of winner nor judges in this exhibition fight. They arranged this fight merely for the purse that they can get.

But talking about Pacquiao vs Bradley fight, do you really think that they fix this match? Hard to fathom that Pacquiao will agree a fix match. Or was it about the judges? Because as far as I remember, even unofficial scorecards from various agencies were giving the fight to Pacquiao. But anyway, I believe that there are indeed fights that are fix. And we may never know about them til years later.

Also, just to add on this Pacquiao-Bradley fight -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Pacquiao_vs._Timothy_Bradley

WBO review
After the decision the WBO ordered a video review of the bout. The five judges on the WBO's committee all scored the fight in Pacquiao's favor — 118–110, 117–111, 117–111, 116–112 and 115–113. However, the WBO cannot overturn the result of the fight.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

That is obviously a yes, as there are many mayweather fights that looks like a fix fight to me especially for those not KOed fight and its an obvious one.

Even its just an exhibition fight when we talk about the logan and mayweather, also its too obvious, how can a youtuber can win against a pro boxer.

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Quote from: electronicash on June 19, 2021, 10:22:47 AM

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley

Not checking the link yet but that fight between Pacquiao and Bradley is controversial and Arum showing disappointment about the result is not seems generic. That's why it was suspected as a rigged fight in favor of Bradley.

I able to watch the PPV of the fight and it's no doubt that Bradley is playing more defense the whole match so even he is surprised with the result and no choice but to hug the reward and just accept the result.

After that, the issue is slowly forgotten and the talk about the match being a rigged match is now just a part of the history.

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Hahaha, amazing. Just this moment at 20:35 made me laugh so hard: "I wish I would've done more of it". It's really impressive how open Farrell is about it. Fight fixing is a serious illegal activity, one can be put in jail for that and be charged with a substantial fine.

I also found another interview from 2017 with him, it's not as informative as the new one, but I found it also quite entertaining.

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Apparently, match fixing is not something new even in the fight between Mayweather and Logan I have my doubts. It's something that you know but you ignore. That's how the mafia makes money even in cricket (a very popular sports among South Asians and British ) there is fixing at some level , not particularly international but club level. But who cares.
There are very less people who talk about such stuff openly, I would definitely watch it , + in most countries match fixing gives you a direct ticket to jail so be aware of the fraudulent people who might give you points on that and do not engage in such stuff.

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Mafias Most Wanted Fight Fixer - Charles Farrell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DIX9ZvDkFc

this is just an interview of this man named Charles Farrell whom he claimed to be a fight fixer. he is there to promote his book "low life" which is about this mob who arrange some fights which they bet and the boxer they'd be rooting has to win. so they'd be talking to the referee and the boxers secretly like thugs. interesting discussion actaully. and it's funny somehow.

he is now retired but he gave an example of a fight that he thinks was a fix fight particularly the match between Pacquiao vs Bradley and he says here that in the mind of Pacquiao was that everyone can see that I will win this fight so it's not going to hurt him. Manny will still be the best money maker after this loss. It does mean like Manny was also being arranged.

all i can say is that Mayweather vs Logan must be a fixed fight as well which everyone won. Mayweather didn't get the loss record and also Logan but everyone got the money and most probably the Mafia as well in sports betting. It does sound like we can analyze how they all work base on what we could observe.

should this be a big win if we pick DRAW for the exhibition fights? sadly we can't see listing of them in crypto sport

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