Topic: Majority of Americans support impeachment inquiry. (Read 148 times)
Cool. Still waiting on a legit reason to impeach
What the heck do you think you'd get out of a WSJ/NBC poll. 90% of their audience is liberal.
How do you think the same "poll" would play out if taken by The Daily Wire?
How do you think the same "poll" would play out if taken by The Daily Wire?
Want to see how it played out among FOX News viewers?
New poll just came out from WSJ/NBC stating that there is a majority of Americans who support an impeachment inquiry starting into Trump. Though there is no majority present for removing the President from office.
This is a very unique position to be in.
Lets go back in history to look at Nixon.By the time that the house had started an impeachment inquiry into Nixon, he had already had horrible approval ratings and about 40 percent of Americans supported removing him from office. Nixon didn't even have the support of his own party.
Look at Clinton. Clinton had great approval ratings, 68 percent of Americans supported him at this point and only 28 percent of Americans supported removing him from office at the start of his inquiry. Clinton had about 40-50 percent of Republicans approving of him.
Trump is somewhere between these two in terms of impeachment. And an extreme on his approval rating. His approval rating his between these two -- but Trump has most of his support from Republicans (80-90 percent support of Republicans) and 30-40 percent support from Independents and pretty much no support among Democrats.
Looking at history may not even help us here, as we're truly in an area we've never seen before.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-in-a-unique-position-amid-impeachment-11570626125?mod=hp_lead_pos6
This is a very unique position to be in.
Lets go back in history to look at Nixon.By the time that the house had started an impeachment inquiry into Nixon, he had already had horrible approval ratings and about 40 percent of Americans supported removing him from office. Nixon didn't even have the support of his own party.
Look at Clinton. Clinton had great approval ratings, 68 percent of Americans supported him at this point and only 28 percent of Americans supported removing him from office at the start of his inquiry. Clinton had about 40-50 percent of Republicans approving of him.
Trump is somewhere between these two in terms of impeachment. And an extreme on his approval rating. His approval rating his between these two -- but Trump has most of his support from Republicans (80-90 percent support of Republicans) and 30-40 percent support from Independents and pretty much no support among Democrats.
Looking at history may not even help us here, as we're truly in an area we've never seen before.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-in-a-unique-position-amid-impeachment-11570626125?mod=hp_lead_pos6
these "polls" are pointless silent majority will speak after vote
WSJ/NBC poll ? Yeah, I'm sure that polled an equal amount of the country's beliefs.
A recent poll in Hustler magazine revealed that men like to look at boobs.
A recent poll in The Vatican news reveled that no one looks at boobs.
What the heck do you think you'd get out of a WSJ/NBC poll. 90% of their audience is liberal.
How do you think the same "poll" would play out if taken by The Daily Wire?
Ive been on this earth for almost 50 years, and no one has yet to ask me my opinion on any poll.
A recent poll in Hustler magazine revealed that men like to look at boobs.
A recent poll in The Vatican news reveled that no one looks at boobs.
What the heck do you think you'd get out of a WSJ/NBC poll. 90% of their audience is liberal.
How do you think the same "poll" would play out if taken by The Daily Wire?
Ive been on this earth for almost 50 years, and no one has yet to ask me my opinion on any poll.
Do you truly think that the people who read WSJ - the business journal - are liberals? I'd understand that argument if you were talking about CNN twitter poll, or something along those lines.
But this is a poll that isn't on the readers, its done scientifically to attempt to minimize the margin of error. They're calling people from all around the country -- probably around 500 or so from different parties and different ideologies, different income levels, walks of life, etc (or at least they try for this)
So your argument is invalid. This isn't a bias on the readers or anything like that.
If you would've started saying that you think polling is flawed for x,y, z reason (Ex: People who respond to polls are biased because they respond, issues with data gathering, issues of questions) then I would've said that your argument is fine. But the one you've presented isn't legitimate.
The Wallstreet Journal may not be liberal, but it is most certainly establishment. Trump has made himself an enemy of the establishment, not just liberals. The establishment will most certainly cross party lines if it serves their bottom line.
WSJ/NBC poll ? Yeah, I'm sure that polled an equal amount of the country's beliefs.
A recent poll in Hustler magazine revealed that men like to look at boobs.
A recent poll in The Vatican news reveled that no one looks at boobs.
What the heck do you think you'd get out of a WSJ/NBC poll. 90% of their audience is liberal.
How do you think the same "poll" would play out if taken by The Daily Wire?
Ive been on this earth for almost 50 years, and no one has yet to ask me my opinion on any poll.
A recent poll in Hustler magazine revealed that men like to look at boobs.
A recent poll in The Vatican news reveled that no one looks at boobs.
What the heck do you think you'd get out of a WSJ/NBC poll. 90% of their audience is liberal.
How do you think the same "poll" would play out if taken by The Daily Wire?
Ive been on this earth for almost 50 years, and no one has yet to ask me my opinion on any poll.
Do you truly think that the people who read WSJ - the business journal - are liberals? I'd understand that argument if you were talking about CNN twitter poll, or something along those lines.
But this is a poll that isn't on the readers, its done scientifically to attempt to minimize the margin of error. They're calling people from all around the country -- probably around 500 or so from different parties and different ideologies, different income levels, walks of life, etc (or at least they try for this)
So your argument is invalid. This isn't a bias on the readers or anything like that.
If you would've started saying that you think polling is flawed for x,y, z reason (Ex: People who respond to polls are biased because they respond, issues with data gathering, issues of questions) then I would've said that your argument is fine. But the one you've presented isn't legitimate.
You may be right. I didn't bother spending the time to research the polling procedure for this poll.
But, I do know most polls are about as reliable as the toilet paper they're printed on.
Without a doubt true, most polls are complete and utter garbage. But there is a clear amount of polls that are PRETTY good -- or at least good enough to run with.
And when you aggregate tons of 'goodish' polls together you're going to get something that is fair enough to use. Think of something like 538 or realclearpolitics.I'd checkout those sites if you're done with the whole "Trump is hated in this poll" "Trump is loved in this one"
WSJ/NBC poll ? Yeah, I'm sure that polled an equal amount of the country's beliefs.
A recent poll in Hustler magazine revealed that men like to look at boobs.
A recent poll in The Vatican news reveled that no one looks at boobs.
What the heck do you think you'd get out of a WSJ/NBC poll. 90% of their audience is liberal.
How do you think the same "poll" would play out if taken by The Daily Wire?
Ive been on this earth for almost 50 years, and no one has yet to ask me my opinion on any poll.
A recent poll in Hustler magazine revealed that men like to look at boobs.
A recent poll in The Vatican news reveled that no one looks at boobs.
What the heck do you think you'd get out of a WSJ/NBC poll. 90% of their audience is liberal.
How do you think the same "poll" would play out if taken by The Daily Wire?
Ive been on this earth for almost 50 years, and no one has yet to ask me my opinion on any poll.
Do you truly think that the people who read WSJ - the business journal - are liberals? I'd understand that argument if you were talking about CNN twitter poll, or something along those lines.
But this is a poll that isn't on the readers, its done scientifically to attempt to minimize the margin of error. They're calling people from all around the country -- probably around 500 or so from different parties and different ideologies, different income levels, walks of life, etc (or at least they try for this)
So your argument is invalid. This isn't a bias on the readers or anything like that.
If you would've started saying that you think polling is flawed for x,y, z reason (Ex: People who respond to polls are biased because they respond, issues with data gathering, issues of questions) then I would've said that your argument is fine. But the one you've presented isn't legitimate.
You may be right. I didn't bother spending the time to research the polling procedure for this poll.
But, I do know most polls are about as reliable as the toilet paper they're printed on.
Gee.... look at the funny math they used to score better than 50%:
"The proportion who say Congress should move to impeachment and removal has ticked up to 24% from 21%, while those who support an impeachment inquiry have swelled to 31% from 27%.
Taken together, that 55% majority backing an impeachment inquiry at minimum is the highest the NBC/WSJ poll has shown this year."
Do you think Congress should move to impeach? Answer yes.
Do you support an impeachment inquiry? Answer yes.
Cool, you now count as two votes
WSJ/NBC poll ? Yeah, I'm sure that polled an equal amount of the country's beliefs.
A recent poll in Hustler magazine revealed that men like to look at boobs.
A recent poll in The Vatican news reveled that no one looks at boobs.
What the heck do you think you'd get out of a WSJ/NBC poll. 90% of their audience is liberal.
How do you think the same "poll" would play out if taken by The Daily Wire?
Ive been on this earth for almost 50 years, and no one has yet to ask me my opinion on any poll.
A recent poll in Hustler magazine revealed that men like to look at boobs.
A recent poll in The Vatican news reveled that no one looks at boobs.
What the heck do you think you'd get out of a WSJ/NBC poll. 90% of their audience is liberal.
How do you think the same "poll" would play out if taken by The Daily Wire?
Ive been on this earth for almost 50 years, and no one has yet to ask me my opinion on any poll.
Do you truly think that the people who read WSJ - the business journal - are liberals? I'd understand that argument if you were talking about CNN twitter poll, or something along those lines.
But this is a poll that isn't on the readers, its done scientifically to attempt to minimize the margin of error. They're calling people from all around the country -- probably around 500 or so from different parties and different ideologies, different income levels, walks of life, etc (or at least they try for this)
So your argument is invalid. This isn't a bias on the readers or anything like that.
If you would've started saying that you think polling is flawed for x,y, z reason (Ex: People who respond to polls are biased because they respond, issues with data gathering, issues of questions) then I would've said that your argument is fine. But the one you've presented isn't legitimate.
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I think it is important to point out that people, regardless of their support for the president, just want this process to move forward via legal due process. ....
I think it is important to point out that people, regardless of their support for the president, just want this process to move forward via legal due process. ....
Due process is exactly what Pelosi's ad hoc, imperial decree of of impeachment LACKS.
WSJ/NBC poll ? Yeah, I'm sure that polled an equal amount of the country's beliefs.
A recent poll in Hustler magazine revealed that men like to look at boobs.
A recent poll in The Vatican news reveled that no one looks at boobs.
What the heck do you think you'd get out of a WSJ/NBC poll. 90% of their audience is liberal.
How do you think the same "poll" would play out if taken by The Daily Wire?
Ive been on this earth for almost 50 years, and no one has yet to ask me my opinion on any poll.
A recent poll in Hustler magazine revealed that men like to look at boobs.
A recent poll in The Vatican news reveled that no one looks at boobs.
What the heck do you think you'd get out of a WSJ/NBC poll. 90% of their audience is liberal.
How do you think the same "poll" would play out if taken by The Daily Wire?
Ive been on this earth for almost 50 years, and no one has yet to ask me my opinion on any poll.
New poll just came out from WSJ/NBC stating that there is a majority of Americans who support an impeachment inquiry starting into Trump. Though there is no majority present for removing the President from office.
This is a very unique position to be in.
Lets go back in history to look at Nixon.By the time that the house had started an impeachment inquiry into Nixon, he had already had horrible approval ratings and about 40 percent of Americans supported removing him from office. Nixon didn't even have the support of his own party.
Look at Clinton. Clinton had great approval ratings, 68 percent of Americans supported him at this point and only 28 percent of Americans supported removing him from office at the start of his inquiry. Clinton had about 40-50 percent of Republicans approving of him.
Trump is somewhere between these two in terms of impeachment. And an extreme on his approval rating. His approval rating his between these two -- but Trump has most of his support from Republicans (80-90 percent support of Republicans) and 30-40 percent support from Independents and pretty much no support among Democrats.
Looking at history may not even help us here, as we're truly in an area we've never seen before.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-in-a-unique-position-amid-impeachment-11570626125?mod=hp_lead_pos6
This is a very unique position to be in.
Lets go back in history to look at Nixon.By the time that the house had started an impeachment inquiry into Nixon, he had already had horrible approval ratings and about 40 percent of Americans supported removing him from office. Nixon didn't even have the support of his own party.
Look at Clinton. Clinton had great approval ratings, 68 percent of Americans supported him at this point and only 28 percent of Americans supported removing him from office at the start of his inquiry. Clinton had about 40-50 percent of Republicans approving of him.
Trump is somewhere between these two in terms of impeachment. And an extreme on his approval rating. His approval rating his between these two -- but Trump has most of his support from Republicans (80-90 percent support of Republicans) and 30-40 percent support from Independents and pretty much no support among Democrats.
Looking at history may not even help us here, as we're truly in an area we've never seen before.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-in-a-unique-position-amid-impeachment-11570626125?mod=hp_lead_pos6
I think it is important to point out that people, regardless of their support for the president, just want this process to move forward via legal due process. There is wide spread fatigue with this whole push to overturn the results of the 2016 election at all costs via media hype and political dirty tricks. Supporters of the president also understand if they begin official proceedings, that will give the president authority under the law to bring damning information against the Democrats, and force them to prove accusations of which they have never had any factual basis for.
Oh yeah, I think that's the most vital part. People want to come to the truth, and they want it to be an independent investigation. They don't want to see Democrats or Republicans attempt to turn this into another partisan witch hunt of the President.
Because Trump already can yell about (and truthfully) state that Democrats have been going after him through his entire presidency for different allegations and all of them have been false.
The problem here though is that impeachment is typically a pretty partisan activity. We're even having this issue right now, as Adam Schiff goes into his committee that is on LIVE TELEVISION and paints Trumps conversation to be 10000x worse then it actually was. After sometime, Republicans (including Trump) point out that Schiff had been lying about the exchange.
Schiff then has to say that he was reciting his interpretation and a parody of the conversation........
^^^ Right!
Besides, how can a person ever determine if a poll has been fair? Polls are often conducted with twisted language to make a person think that the answer he is giving to the poll question, will emphasize his point of view. Then the pollsters turn the meaning around.
Besides, it's a media poll, isn't it? And we are all finding out that the media is on the side of the Dems and the liberals, right?
Besides, how can a person ever determine if a poll has been fair? Polls are often conducted with twisted language to make a person think that the answer he is giving to the poll question, will emphasize his point of view. Then the pollsters turn the meaning around.
Besides, it's a media poll, isn't it? And we are all finding out that the media is on the side of the Dems and the liberals, right?
New poll just came out from WSJ/NBC stating that there is a majority of Americans who support an impeachment inquiry starting into Trump. Though there is no majority present for removing the President from office.
This is a very unique position to be in.
Lets go back in history to look at Nixon.By the time that the house had started an impeachment inquiry into Nixon, he had already had horrible approval ratings and about 40 percent of Americans supported removing him from office. Nixon didn't even have the support of his own party.
Look at Clinton. Clinton had great approval ratings, 68 percent of Americans supported him at this point and only 28 percent of Americans supported removing him from office at the start of his inquiry. Clinton had about 40-50 percent of Republicans approving of him.
Trump is somewhere between these two in terms of impeachment. And an extreme on his approval rating. His approval rating his between these two -- but Trump has most of his support from Republicans (80-90 percent support of Republicans) and 30-40 percent support from Independents and pretty much no support among Democrats.
Looking at history may not even help us here, as we're truly in an area we've never seen before.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-in-a-unique-position-amid-impeachment-11570626125?mod=hp_lead_pos6
This is a very unique position to be in.
Lets go back in history to look at Nixon.By the time that the house had started an impeachment inquiry into Nixon, he had already had horrible approval ratings and about 40 percent of Americans supported removing him from office. Nixon didn't even have the support of his own party.
Look at Clinton. Clinton had great approval ratings, 68 percent of Americans supported him at this point and only 28 percent of Americans supported removing him from office at the start of his inquiry. Clinton had about 40-50 percent of Republicans approving of him.
Trump is somewhere between these two in terms of impeachment. And an extreme on his approval rating. His approval rating his between these two -- but Trump has most of his support from Republicans (80-90 percent support of Republicans) and 30-40 percent support from Independents and pretty much no support among Democrats.
Looking at history may not even help us here, as we're truly in an area we've never seen before.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-in-a-unique-position-amid-impeachment-11570626125?mod=hp_lead_pos6
I think it is important to point out that people, regardless of their support for the president, just want this process to move forward via legal due process. There is wide spread fatigue with this whole push to overturn the results of the 2016 election at all costs via media hype and political dirty tricks. Supporters of the president also understand if they begin official proceedings, that will give the president authority under the law to bring damning information against the Democrats, and force them to prove accusations of which they have never had any factual basis for.
New poll just came out from WSJ/NBC stating that there is a majority of Americans who support an impeachment inquiry starting into Trump. Though there is no majority present for removing the President from office.
This is a very unique position to be in.
Lets go back in history to look at Nixon.By the time that the house had started an impeachment inquiry into Nixon, he had already had horrible approval ratings and about 40 percent of Americans supported removing him from office. Nixon didn't even have the support of his own party.
Look at Clinton. Clinton had great approval ratings, 68 percent of Americans supported him at this point and only 28 percent of Americans supported removing him from office at the start of his inquiry. Clinton had about 40-50 percent of Republicans approving of him.
Trump is somewhere between these two in terms of impeachment. And an extreme on his approval rating. His approval rating his between these two -- but Trump has most of his support from Republicans (80-90 percent support of Republicans) and 30-40 percent support from Independents and pretty much no support among Democrats.
Looking at history may not even help us here, as we're truly in an area we've never seen before.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-in-a-unique-position-amid-impeachment-11570626125?mod=hp_lead_pos6
This is a very unique position to be in.
Lets go back in history to look at Nixon.By the time that the house had started an impeachment inquiry into Nixon, he had already had horrible approval ratings and about 40 percent of Americans supported removing him from office. Nixon didn't even have the support of his own party.
Look at Clinton. Clinton had great approval ratings, 68 percent of Americans supported him at this point and only 28 percent of Americans supported removing him from office at the start of his inquiry. Clinton had about 40-50 percent of Republicans approving of him.
Trump is somewhere between these two in terms of impeachment. And an extreme on his approval rating. His approval rating his between these two -- but Trump has most of his support from Republicans (80-90 percent support of Republicans) and 30-40 percent support from Independents and pretty much no support among Democrats.
Looking at history may not even help us here, as we're truly in an area we've never seen before.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-in-a-unique-position-amid-impeachment-11570626125?mod=hp_lead_pos6
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