Topic: Make America Great Again vs. Keep America Great? (Read 464 times)

If you say America was always great, then you agree with Obama 2016 that America is already great so that nullifies Trump's statement and campaign on which he won by shouting "make America great again".

So you are contradicting yourself

But if you say that America became great after Trump came into presidency then also this is not gonna blow the spark as clearly, America is the same which it was 4 years ago lol.

It's just a political line, not something that should be taken literraly. A country can be made great only when people are united towards its progress, not by division among them

Trump still tweets about Hillary everyday, says much about his immature brain who's still not got over a win that he probably thought he would lose.

He has changed his stances so many times. From dem to repub, from pro choice to pro life, from pro war to anti war to pro war to anti war... From going against the electoral vote to supporting it.



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If one can't simply see the shear hypocrisy and a pathological liar...nothing more to say about it then.

Russian bombers have been skimming our coastlines for many years. Iran has shot down US drones before. So you would rather we have more war?
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An interesting question is why, this time, the downed drone is PRESENTED as a prelude to war.

Absolutely not.  I was pointing out that that we're hardly being respected on the foreign stage.

Russian bombers have been skimming our coastlines for many years. Iran has shot down US drones before. So you would rather we have more war?

I'm dubious about making it great again in terms of the sectors lost to globalization. I don't think it's realistic. I think they do need to scale down a bit on all the wars.


There seem to be a general atmosphere of leniency among the liberals. I've heard about the news in Oberlin. It's really crazy that they'd try to ruin a family over theft that the thieves has already confessed about.

Russian bombers taunting the US off the coast of Alaska.  Iran just shot down a drone.   All hat and no cattle by trying to play nice with the North Korean dictator.   Talking big then skulking away and letting the Russians take over Syria and now moving into Venezuela.

You really think Trump's foreign policy has been an improvement?

Well, Make America Great Again is not going to work this time. It would be like saying that he hasn't made progress during his first term. It would be a great slogan for his opponent.

It really seems so fast to me that Donad Trump is almost finishing his term. I totally agree with OP, for my Donald Trump has led the country with great intelligence, he has known how to treat his opponents being his opponents, I think he is very clever with respect to Russia and China.

The Meak America Great Slogan is sensational, I hope that by 2020 it will win again, its policies are very strategic, and with respect to the wall that was its promise, it has been difficult because of the congress, I think it can be a wall intelligent, but not a wall similar to that of West Germany.

The truth is that his Intelligence, as well as the ability to write books has been excellent to direct a great country, the best thing of all is that he has never been a politician but a businessman, that gives the radical change to how E.E.U.U. I fully support his policies, he is very good at seeing and a man of great ideas.

Re-election looks extremely tough as of now. The rust belt states have once again turned deep blue, as can be seen from the recent senate and gubernatorial elections. Pennsylvania looks the toughest state, and the bad news for Trump is that it has 20 electoral votes. Arizona is another tough state, where the Republican candidate lost during the senate elections.

The economy is doing great, unemployment is low and after nearly a decade of disastrous foreign policy under Obama, Trump is asserting himself in a positive way at the global stage. So ideally he should be having an easy re-election. But the demographics seems to be skewed heavily against him. And adding to it are tens of thousands of illegal caravan immigrants crossing into the US every day.

But a lot will depend on the Democratic candidate as well. The Dems are very famous for nominating unelectable candidates such as Hillary and I won't be surprised in case they do that again. Someone like Elizabeth Warren or Anthony Weiner as the Democratic nominee would be good news for Trump.

I'd be reluctant to change MAGA given its proven track record in driving the other side absolutely nuts.

Trump should keep his old slogan make America great again because it a continues term that show that development is a progressive quest which must come with time and development is an unending quest at that making America great again is the perfect slogans for his 2020 campaign.

Sure, you can just google for unemployment benefits. I don't think that someone is calculating them per every hour but it doesn't necessarily have to be like that.
Also, you may consider minimum wage $7,25 as their wage standart. Approximately this salary you gonna get in McDonald's with a degree in Gender Studies.

There's little to nothing the President can truly do to help a city when they refuse constructive policy. All they accept is more taxes, more welfare, and more DEMS (and farther and farther left ones for that matter) Plus, in a Federalist system there's no chance that the President can do anything to a city like this anyway.


I mean, in most fields this truly isn't the case though. If you come out of college and you're in a massive amount of debt for $20 an hour -- I think you picked the wrong degree and the wrong profession that most likely has way too much supply and so little demand.

Like god, you can go into finance, accounting, trucking, the trades (plumbing, electrician, etc) and make double and triple that amount of money. You could go to a combination of a state school + community college for this as well.

It's almost like we need a wall or something....

Thanks for showing this video. It is the drugs that is the biggest problem. The one's selling have to get these drugs from somewhere, and it is mostly coming from the southern border. Maybe something should be done there to help stop that problem. I wish someone would come up with a plan to help stop it from happening at the source, because beyond the south border the US has no power.

It is better to chose the second one if he wants it to be used for the next election campaign.
The second one will show that he made already America great in his first tenure and now his challenge is to keep it in the top level.

If you want to understand the homeless situation in the liberal cities..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw

the liberals basically let them do drugs, let them sell drugs, let them steal, let them live homelessly in cities, let them piss and shit on the street, let them shoot up on the street and leave their needles on the street, and this is the way they choose to live as long as they can support their drug addictions they don't care about anything else..
Pay attention to what the police have to say about it..

They need to be arrested for drugs, arrested for shitting on the sidewalk, arrested for living in tents, and make it impossible for them to live this way, to solve the homeless problem..
What they are doing is enabling them to live this way which is just making the homeless population grow..
People that want to live this way flock to these areas where it is possible and enabled..

You don't see this where I am from for 2 reasons..
1. They would be arrested AF for any of that stupid crap and we would not put up with that littering piles of garbage.. Try to live like that here and the police will come take everything in your camp, take your tent and sleeping bags etc.. If someone sees you throwing trash in a river here they may very well put you in the river right behind it, we don't take kindly to that at all..
2. They would be dead AF sleeping outside.. 2 just died in a tent winter before last like 2 miles from me, they were stupid to even try it.. AFAIK they weren't even addicts or anything..

I actually stayed in a homeless shelter for a couple weeks one time because I didn't want to leave the city I was living in, a nice city.. Enough time for me to get paid from my job and find a room to rent. It was a grand adventure I do not regret..
Their were not druggies there, they were in jail, but a few were ex-addicts out of rehab and such, but mostly just weirdos that didn't want to work..

Let them live like that and they will live like that and more will come to live like that..
They need to be arrested always so they aren't just free to live like that..
If you leave stagnant water outside it will soon be green with algae, full of bacteria, and have mosquitoes breeding in it.. So if you don't want mosquitoes then don't leave crap around with water sitting in it..

Hence, we are still trying to MAGA and will be until all of these liberal addict enabling strongholds are overturned..
They have ruined some of our greatest cities and it's not like they are fixed now..
Still trying to MAGA..

Yes the 50's were great. Detroit had the highest payed blacks in the world but they rioted anyway which started the downturn of Detroit, along with many other liberal policies..

Can we have special provision in Wage Standards for these degree categories allowing them a 1.00 per hour wage?

I think his slogan should be,

Make America Greaterer Again

I mean that's even more great, right? He should aim high.

What's bad in inequality? Why you all arguing that someone have more money than you?

If you got a college degree in Photography, Journalism, or even Gender Studies then you are completely right, those people are lucky to get $20 per hour.

Nah, that example is not relevant.
Most of those people are homeless because they are mentally sick and government does not provide them the necessary treatment. Later they can't socialize and unable to work so those people are losing their homes.
There is nothing about the global economy there.

Illegal?   I realize corporations have a responsibility to shareholders.   But I'm pretty sure it's not illegal to pay workers more.   People get raises all the time.

Not blaming Trump or liberal/conservatives.   This is what is bound to happen in the late stages of capitalism.  Companies only have loyalty to their shareholders, its literally illegal for companies to even pay their workers more money because they have a duty to ownership.  Its much more difficult for people to survive in America compared to 50 years ago.

I have relatives that were making the equivalent of $40/hr in today's money out of high school working at factories.  Thats just not going to happen now, college educated people are lucky to make $20/hr and housing,college, and healthcare have soared past the inflation rate.

Notice those happen to be liberal strongholds?
That is the fault of the left, not Trump.. And it is drugs, not the economy..

Direwolf you are completely clueless or in denial.

Suicide rates are the highest they have ever been, wealth inequality is reaching insane levels, wages haven't been growing, unemployment numbers are rigged to look better than the reality.


all you need to do is take a look at the homeless in San Francisco and Los Angeles to get a gauge on how the lower people live in America.

^^^ Maintaining people on welfare is destroying the whole economy, just to make America look like she can take care of her own.

Who cares what color he is?


As long as people eat and need somewhere to sleep there will be others selling their labor for these things. When it starts to intrude on the ability to produce these things is when there will be a real problem. Do you see things really collapsing like that, or are you talking about collapse meaning less 'nice things' to make people's lives easier; like less cars and airplanes?

He made it through the entire last campaign never having been asked "When was it greater than it is now?"

He's from the 1950's, so of course for a rich white guy, it's always been pretty great.  And if you're an old white guy, those were the days.

So if he's referring to those days, it was great for some...not for minorities...not for women..not for the disabled....

People have short memories.  All you need to do is look at where we were in 2008.  Never ending bankruptcies for banks. The auto industry in full collapse.  The largest insurer (AIG) ready to fold (and grind the country to a standstill).  Not to mention starting a world wide depression worse than the one 90 years ago.

It's a slogan.  If Trump thought he could get re-elected by beefing up welfare and cutting the military, he'd do it tomorrow.  He's about him.

All you need to do is take a look at the street people in San Francisco to see that any greatness in America is only a shell surrounding a bunch of slime. If Trump really wants Keep America Great, it's a political ploy to keep the wealthy, and the diminishing middle class, from realizing the straits of collapse we are really in.

Donald Trump wants to know if you think he should change his slogan for his 2020 campaign.

Which do you prefer; should he keep it Make America Great Again, or change it to Keep America Great?

He seems to prefer the latter, and his justification is accurate.  Our economy is strong, and getting stronger.  Unemployment is historically low.  And lets be realistic, America is great and has been for a long time.  I like Keep America Great, and I like Trump in 2020.