Topic: Making a living online (recreate) (Read 2586 times)

You have to start trading altcoins and give your money to Bob. Thank you

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Salary for online jobs comparable to real life?

Everything is so undervalued in general, workforce is just not valued at all, all that's valued is the dynamics of capital, in other words, have money to make even more money. It's an interesting thing the fact that the most money I have ever managed to do through the internet was thanks to signature campaigns, most of the other stuff that I tried failed. Trying to sell my skills over the internet never got me anywhere at all. So thanks to sig campaigns I can make some extra beermoney.

It is true that coding projects do not pay big salaries when it comes to coding in first world markets. One must accept paid coding projects as paid work experience as coding is hard to come by. As you said students making beer money, and programmers living in third-world countires makes up most of the work force on this forum. Still experience is better than no experience, and some people can't afford to go to school. Sometimes valid work experience is all one needs to get the job they want. It may take many years longer, but it may just as well be worth it for many people in the long run.

HYIP/ponzi, gambling and any fast way to get rich probably is the fastest way to make you loss. IMO
Build your own business from small without take debt. (if you want try to take debt from bank, not from loan shark)

I will preview your site too, maybe i can sell something on your site.

That's good for you it is always better for a long term business than getting rich in the easiest way, well your saying your site is like ebay? may I know the link of your site so I could see it maybe your site have something I'm looking for

Defo agree with this, it is very rewarding to have your own site and actually make sales.  Im just starting out but already found some good success. Feels ways better than using 3rd party like ebay aswell. 

I'd pick good geniune long term ways to make money online vs get rich quick ways which wont last.  If you want to never have a boss you need ideas which are going to last 10 years+

full informative and brilliant write up.

Yup coding is one of the best way to earn online, but nevertheless not everyone is familliar with coding there are still other ways to earn online aside from coding that certain people can rely on, there is online job that pays you by reviewing calls, Encoding,  webdesign and a lot more.


Yup designing are great stuff and my favorite of all jobs on the net, and you can now rely on youtube to enhance your knowledge in webdesigning,

That is one great advice for people who wants to try webdesign tutorials on youtube are very useful too.

Webdesign, and all design skill can make income for us. It's not hard to start learn design on photoshop, corel, illustrator or any software from youtube.

Everytime you need fresh idea to make new design, visit youtube. There are tons good people who sharing their skill in there.

That's a nice idea to make bot on War of Warcraft game.
Knock me if you invent the new one. 

Anyway, coding skill is very needed in nowadays.

This is true. There a lot of amazon ebook sellers and udemy courses that sell pure bs to people on how to make money.

This forum has a few ways to earn income but it sure is not a stable income. Coding and programming is by far the best way to make a stable healthy income on the internet. The more I learn about coding, the more opportunities come up

Well the cost of living isn't the same in many countries.
I agree at that point, and the same product(website) can be sold many time lower in other countries.
Personally i wish to earn from adsense one day, but i just need to start something and then leave me do the job.

You're right, I am trying to restrict myself of using it frequently, because of the hard earned bitcoins, but sometimes I just buy a coke or something, just to be sure that the system is still working But if somehow I would get a monthly income in bitcoin, it would have been just normal to do the daily spendings with it. Until this happens, I just consider it as a possibility to spend bitcoin with, if needed.

Well that pretty great for you using your debit card in buying with your bitcoin, well let's just say it will happen in the future but we don't know when it will happen, and if that happens no more hustle in our part that is using bitcoin.

I have tought about this too, but I feel like I would become too addicted to shopping and I would ruin my hard earned BTC gains, so I must stay frugal. I also like to know what's going on behind the scenes, I like to know the addresses specifically when im sending and receiving.

I have a XAPO wallet and have got a debit card attached to it. When I use my debit card, it exchanges the exact amount of bitcoin to fiat and that's all. Merchants accept it because it's VISA and they don't know what is happening behind the scenes (and tjey don't care, even if they know, their business is with VISA, not XAPO).
I have tried only POS purchase but others said that you can withdraw money from ATM as well.
Maybe this can be a temporary solution until merchants start to accept bitcoin directly in the future.

Like I said there are many ways to earn online! and webdesign is one of it, making a living online are certainly great for people who cannot afford to go to work like handicap persons, and I think bitcointalk forum isn't a source of income this is a place were we can learn more about bitcoin, members can suggest new ways to get bitcoin and make bitcoin innovative. for me this forum is great in learning more about crypto currencies although there are signature campaign that you could earn BTC for me it is just an extra income in gaining access in bigger opportunity about bitcoin.

It is good idea but I think that is not connected with the living online but with the living with online.    Then, I think that it will be not enough demand for bitcoin (in the meaning to create this kind of job you have in mind) even for more time. So I'm afraid that it will remain only an good idea. Not an good way to make revenue with the online. Anyhow your try. Maybe there can be some pioneers even in your city which can offer the possibility to do what you think to do only because the attraction they will find for bitcoin. Like us which are here in bitcointalk.

I mean there are client on that site that are paying bitcoin, so it is not an issue he will pay me bitcoin to my bitcoin wallet, still even if you have bitcoin you will need to convert it with real cash because the majority of merchants like fastfood, drugstores, department store ect... isn't all bitcoins right?

Why to earn real money if you can earn bitcoin? If you earn real money, where you can convert it to bitcoin for free? If you want to buy, as far as I know you usually can use bank transfer which costs much, or you can use methods complicated but maybe cheaper (like buying second life linden dollars by bank card and then exchange it to bitcoin)
What is the cheapest (and easyest)method to buy bitcoin for fiat?

Yup! there are many ways of earning through bitcoin too, but as for me bitcoin is just a part time, I just share some online job sites you can earn real money and you can convert it with bitcoin too if you like! there are certain jobs there that pays with bitcoin.

Yes online earning are booming since 2005 itself. Now a days it is the era of bitcoin. Because with bitcoin you can make more money for a less time compared to other earning. Bitcoin provides time value earning opportunity. Signature campaign must the good example for that.

whom who knows do whom who does not just teatches but even teaching on line can be profitable soo you can work on line and work abraod in ordr for your income to be more reewlaible for food and digital goods soo BTC its a good way for you to be paied into this work of on line bussiness but theres schemes.

There are tons of opportunity online if you don't want to leave the comfort of your room, you can now do it at home make living online with odesk but now it is called upwork, https://www.upwork.com/ you can find freelancer and freelance jobs online there are varieties of work to choose from there is web developers, mobile developers, designers, writers, virtual artist, customer service agent, sales and marketing experts and many more.

Yes, all the options that the said cutesakura is okay, but in background of this possibilities there is a lot of hard work.
it is not enough to make website, put ads or product, and earn money.

Reading the first few posts my consequence was also that it's only coding and coding related IT stuff can give you proper income for living. I'm thinking about totally different things. I would somehow combine online things with some kind of activity that needs phisical presence based on the lazyness of people. I don't know yet how to define this, but if you think that you have already discovered this kind of activity, please share the idea.
As (according to my idea) it needs local meetings personally and because I live in a small county I would not ruin your business even if you give me some basic guidelines what to do and how.
My first idea was to coach very rich local businessmen about bitcoin system but it seems that it won't start because of the lack of the demand in my city

Very nice read cutesakura. Opened my eyes a lot regarding the possibilities of online moneymaking!

Currently, only the dig campaigns earn me online money, but I'm looking to expand this. Definitely gonna look in to your options!

No wonder you'll get banned, as there are many Runescape GMs always on the watch for bots lol. It is a great income only if you could sustain the bot and not get caught. For me, I'm boosting MMR in Dota 2 using scripts. Takes hours but the payment is great

Everyone in this thread tell principally that the only way to assure the living online is to code. I have not this kind of skills so can have "sweet dreams" about my possibility to assure earnings online. But I have even some other "sweet dreams". There are other ways to have money from internet. For example to be part of an online business since its beginning and participate actively on its growth. This can make you shareholder on it or even more: have profits from various activity of it which are concepted to be profitable from all the others (users) which will join it.

This a rare opportunity but I think to be part of such business. Yet in development, yet nothing earned and yet away from its final target. It will be true? Lets see and hope. For the moment, as it is told above, it is only a "sweet dream".

Is botting runescape still viable? I tried setting up a botfarm that would potentially net me about $300-500 a month but I kept getting banned within a couple days.

you can just join affiliate network and sell their products.  buy targeted traffic from an adnetwork and if the product is worth buying, you get to earn. this is also what i learn but this is also too simple and too difficult to also do.

My Top 10 Ways To Make Money Online

1. Sell On Ebay

During my pre-teen and early teenage years I went from playing with Transformers, GI-Joe and LEGO, to playing Nintendo, Sega and Gameboy. Eventually I added the card game Magic: The Gathering to the mix at about 16 years of age. All of these things were passions for me at various stages of growing up, but one thing remained consistent throughout each stage; I traded and sold toys and games I no longer wanted to make extra cash.

In Brisbane where I live, before the Internet there was a newspaper called the Trading Post that was published every two weeks. It was an aftermarket for pretty much everything. Whenever I grew tired of a game or a toy I’d sell it via the Trading Post, usually in an effort to make enough money to buy the new toy or game I had in my sights.

Eventually the Internet came along and the Trading Post no longer commanded the secondhand market like it once did (though it did successfully transition online). It quickly became clear that eBay was the winner when it came to secondhand commerce online. As a result my first experience making any money from the Internet was selling old games, toys and electronics on eBay.

EBay is still I believe the best way to gain experience making money from the Internet for two reasons –

    You are pretty much guaranteed to make some kind of sale and thus experience a transaction
    EBay has the traffic, so you don’t have to worry about marketing your product beyond creating a good listing, the eye-balls are already there

These two reasons make eBay a great first stop because you will learn how to list something for sale online, how to take money (possibly your first experience with PayPal) and about the importance of things like titles and copywriting, if you spend the time to study how to make your eBay listings convert better.

The best thing about eBay – the abundant traffic – is also the worst thing. Barriers to entry are low on eBay, meaning competition is fierce. When competition is fierce, profit margin is slim. Unless you can find some form of competitive advantage through your supply chain, how you create listings, or you have a means to increase volume, you’re not going retire rich thanks to eBay.

I spent quite a bit of time studying eBay, both as a business model and as a means to capture new customers because of how much buying traffic is there. There is no doubt that eBay is a fantastic website that represents a huge potential to make money, but in my case I wasn’t keen to build my business there, it didn’t match enough of my criteria.

However eBay is a fantastic way to make quick money, even just as a way to turn your old items into cash to start a new online venture. If you’re brand new to Internet marketing and you don’t know your PayPal’s from your Clickbanks, or your PPC from your SEO, eBay is definitely a great place to learn some basics.

2. Sell products in forums, bulletin boards, classifieds and other community type sites

The card game Magic: The Gathering was a big part of my life from the end of highschool to the beginning of university. Although initially I was just a casual player and then tournament player, I quickly became a card trader and really enjoyed the wheeling and dealing. Although my interest in playing the game wained, most of my early projects online were connected with the game.

Before having my own website, I spent time reading websites, newsgroups, bulletin boards and forums about the game, and eventually started trading online. Back before search engines were any good most of my time was spent in particular Magic newsgroups, some that talked strategy, and some that were focused specifically on trading and/or buying and selling cards.

I managed to make spare change selling my cards through these sites. The main reason I could make any money was because I would win cards in tournaments, hence I had a supply source that would result in a good profit margin. Of course this wasn’t sustainable unless I kept placing well in tournaments, nor was it really scalable unless I started buying in cards from other sources.

I stopped using this method once I started my own card game site (more on this below), however I still believe niche collectables, particularly in a market that you really love, is a fantastic starting point to gain experience making money online. Like eBay you can make money selling secondhand items in community sites if you can find a way to source product at cost or below. It’s not a model that has much margin so again the challenge is to scale if you want to make significant profit.

3. Sell products from your own website

My first successful website was about the card game Magic: The Gathering. At first the site was just a hobby with articles written by me and a few friends. Eventually as traffic grew I began making some money with the site.

Since I was already a card trader it made sense that my Magic site have a Magic card store. At first I stocked the website with my own cards, and eventually added retail “sealed” (unopened packs of cards) by buying product at wholesale from a company in Sydney.

It was a very simple card shop made up of text listings of the cards I had for sale, the quantity available and the cost per card or per pack. I maintained the inventory myself from my room, sorting and listing cards online by hand using plain text. I didn’t use any software and most of the payments I received back then was via check or money order in the mail. Some kids would even send money and even coins (!) in the mail to pay for their purchase.

My business did well enough, although the manual labor was intense. Maintaining inventory lists, packing cards into envelopes and daily trips to the post office was not always the most fun way to spend my time, though I did enjoy having my own little business while in university.

Unfortunately my store was hit by credit card fraud when I foolishly sold a significant amount of product to an unknown person in Thailand. This experience was enough for me to decide that I had had enough of running a Magic shop and it was time to move on. You can read about the credit card fraud experience here – Yaro Starak Timeline – Part 2
Selling Products Online Is A Big Opportunity

My first three experiences of making money from the Internet all involve some kind of physical product. Online commerce obviously represents a huge opportunity to make money online, and having your own product or a passion for a product that you can source can lead to big profits.

You can sell product from your own website store, via community sites and classifieds (like Craigslist) and of course eBay and collectively make good money. The challenge, like with any business, is defining what is your competitive advantage and can you come up with a model that meets your needs. For me selling physical product was a great proving ground, but I eventually learned that profiting from information was a preferable model if I wanted to meet my aforementioned business goals.

I’ll leave it in your hands to decide whether physical commerce is the way to go for your situation.

4. Sponsorship advertising on a content site

Once my card game site was successful I began researching how to make money from it. I sold cards initially because I already knew there was a market for that and I had the cards, but I was also aware that if I had an audience I could charge sponsors money to advertise to them.

Thus began my love affair with banner advertising.

Although challenging at times to find sponsors, I was quickly able to bring in several hundred dollars per month in advertising revenue by directly approaching online companies who I considered good targets for my readership. I emailed them and asked if they would like to pay a monthly fee to place a banner on my site. Most said no, but some said yes and eventually I had a couple of loyal sponsors.

Banner income would prove very reliable over time as long as I continued to do whatever I did to maintain and build a readership. This has continued today, where several sponsors pay a fee to advertise their products and services to you, the reader of this website.

Banner advertising, when set up using a system like I presently use, can be very hands off – in fact for me it’s entirely passive – assuming there is an audience that the sponsors benefit from advertising to. It’s difficult to make loads and loads of money just from banners unless you have significant traffic, but it is easy enough to make some money from it and once you do, it generally proves very reliable unless you stop updating your website.

I’d recommend this method to you if you have some kind of content based site or a community site that attracts enough traffic to make it worthwhile for sponsors. The best thing about banners is that they don’t have to replace any other income method you use, you can use this income stream in tandem with others.

5. Sell services you provide personally

At one stage early in my career when my online income wasn’t consistent, I was part of a business grant program run by the Australian government designed to assist entrepreneurs with money to pay for life’s necessities so you can focus on growing your business. The idea is that when your business is successful you will eventually hire people and pay taxes, thus the government reaps a return on the investment.

The grant ran for 12 months and I was under the assumption (incorrectly) that I had to show consistent income growth in order to maintain my qualification for the program. My income at the time always suffered a downturn around Christmas/Summer in Australia. To combat this problem I decided to teach English face-to-face with people in Brisbane to hopefully boost my reportable income.

To advertise my tutoring service I marketed using posters offline and eventually set up a website and marketed on classified sites as well. I charged $15 an hour and eventually had a few Korean clients. This idea eventually ballooned into a full on English school with a real world premises that I managed for eight months before closing down. It turned out to be an experiment that taught me I much preferred online business to bricks and mortar.

My English tutoring days were short lived, but that doesn’t mean selling some kind of service that you personally deliver isn’t still a viable option. The Internet is a fantastic place to market your services for free. Similar to what I talked about in the first three points, you can use online community sites, classified, forums and your own website to market your service.

The downside with this model is that you are still trading hours for dollars, which is a violation of my holy trinity concept. It’s not necessarily the worst option – and many people enjoy the life of a high-paid consultant very much – but it does have the inherent limitation that a service is not replicable unless you personally do it yourself or hire people to do it for you, both activities that take time and/or resources.

If you are good at something and enjoy helping/teaching/working on other people’s projects, selling what you do online is worth considering.

6. Sell services provided by other people

My next big success after my card game site was an online proofreading business. For this business I wanted to focus on selling something that did not require either my own labor or sourcing some kind of physical product.

The business began in very simple fashion. I created the website personally myself and advertised two services – English proofreading and language translation services. I knew how to find contract proofreaders and also had access to an online database of language translators. When a job came through I’d organize a quote, slap on a margin for myself and then return the quote to the client.

Over the years I heavily refined this business. I brought on an assistant, simplified the services, cemented a pricing model and learned what methods of marketing brought in the best type of client. The end result was a full time income for me and barely a few hours of work to maintain it.

This was the first time I found a business that met all my major criteria – except one – I really wasn’t that passionate about the industry. Initially I enjoyed being the entrepreneur, the thrill of making money and automating the business as much as I could, but after a few years my passion wained. I eventually sold the business, earning a nice payday in the process, making this one of my most personally gratifying projects.

Selling a service is a real option for making money online. The challenge is sourcing good people to do the work, learning what specific offer to make to the market, how to differentiate yourself so you earn good margins, how to market what you offer and how to automate the entire process so it becomes a passive income stream.

7. Paid reviews

For a brief period on my blog I invited people to submit their product, service or website for a paid review. This means they pay a fee (for my site it was $250) and I would write an article about whatever they submitted. I would not accept just anything for review, I had to see an angle that made for relevant content for my audience. Nor was a paid review a promise that I would write positively about the subject – I would highlight both good and bad points.

Initially I didn’t mind writing paid reviews as the income was pretty good in terms of how long it would take and how much I earned. I could make as much as $250 an hour, which was great at first, but as my motivation focused more on freedom and less on money, even this became a poor incentive. Plus I never did like that I was told what to write about rather than choosing subjects I enjoyed.

The challenge for you, if this method is relevant to your growth stage, is to create a website where you can command a price for paid reviews that makes it worth your time. Until your traffic is significant, charging more than $50 for a review is not realistic, so you need to build your website asset first.

8. Affiliate marketing

As my blog audience grew I began to test a method of making money I was very interested in – affiliate marketing. My first test proved positive, though initially I was disappointed that of my readership of 500 or so people (at the time), I could only sell one or two products, making $20 commission each. It wasn’t retirement money, but it was a start.

Affiliate income has gone on to become my second highest source of income in recent years, thanks in part to the increase in my audience reach. By combining my blog and email newsletter I can reach thousands of people with just one piece of content. By testing different products and recommending things I personally use myself, I’ve been able to earn as much as $50,000 in commissions selling just one product.

Affiliate marketing is possibly the single best way to make a living online because it is so hands off, can be automated easily enough and can deliver some incredible profit margins. It’s especially good when you can use affiliate marketing to recommend things in areas you are personally interested in – for example you can make money simply writing a review of a book you really wanted to read anyway and you get paid for doing what you love.

The challenge for you is figuring out what market(s) to enter, building an audience and maintaining relationships with your readers so they trust what you tell them. If you know something that other people want to know and you are prepared to share that information, you could be looking at a fairly lucrative affiliate opportunity.

9. Sell your own information products

The single most profitable income stream I have ever developed is selling my own information products. If you are a long time follower of my work you know I have created courses on how to make money with blogs and membership sites. I also have several reports, an ebook and new products on the way.

The profit margins on information products is significant, especially as you can earn money for content you created years ago. Technology makes selling information online relatively easy to automate, once you get through the learning curve. If you focus on areas you are passionate about you can build expertise and leverage that trust and credibility to make sales of your products. Best of all, all of this can happen while you sleep, once you have built the machine to do it for you.

I personally enjoy teaching, so creating my products like Blog Mastermind though hard work, was an enjoyable process. Once the course was created I continued to sell it year after year to people new to the industry who want to learn how to make money with blogs.

Like with affiliate marketing, your potential to succeed selling information products rests on your ability to identify market needs, tap into audiences looking for this information and then give them what they want. There are plenty of subtleties and things to learn about, but thankfully there is plenty of guidance out there too. Digging into the archives of this blog you are reading now and downloading my free reports – The Blog Profits Blueprint and Membership Site Masterplan are fantastic starting points if you want more help.

10. High end private coaching

I’ll end this article with something I only recently did – offer high end coaching to a select group of clients who had to apply to work with me. My program cost between $5,000 and $10,000 and I turned away more people than I accepted. This was deliberate as I knew working one-on-one with people is not something I can do with many people or I will use up all my time. However I was keen to help certain people who were in the right position so I could learn more about the challenges they face.

Private coaching, like consulting, is another situation where you trade time for dollars, but in terms of your hourly pay rate it is hard to find a higher paying “job”. Of course you don’t have to start off charging thousands of dollars. Depending on your expertise and what kind of outcome you help people achieve, will determine how much you can charge. Offering coaching for $100 per session is not out of reach for most people, and that’s not a bad starting rate if you are looking to build up your experience through helping others closely.

Again the Internet is by far the easiest and most affordable tool to attract coaching clients. In many cases you can add private coaching to many of the other methods I listed above, including selling info products you create, affiliate products, sponsorship banners and physical products.

With decent coding knowledge and experience you can make money over internet but I don't think it would make for a living alone.

You speak the truth. Computer coding is a competitive industry and it really depends on the talent you have and how good you are at coding. On this forum I have found you are paid not much more than introductory programmers and it really is  only a great way to start your career as a coder. The best jobs are highly competition.

i was searching for something else that is at good at signature in helping me accumulate bitcoin, but i can't find nothing sadly, aside from ponzi and other random scam site

i was especially lookin at thos eeasy task that deliver a good earning, maybe some other forum that deal with different crypto, like the monero ones?

Online marketing is all about traffic and has nothing to do with talent. Some idiot playing minecraft or whatever videogame is trendy nowadays, may attract millions of potential buyers, which means this idiot making videos for kids will get some companies approaching him to put their link on their Youtube frontpage. Or some good looking girl with tons of followers in instagram may get some companies also interested. That pays higher than talent, unfortunately.

I use my coding skills for games and sell the in-game items with money haha. I don't wan to sell the source because I know that I will lose some money in the long run. Also, my internet connection right now is hacked or tapped directly to a local ISP. Got tired of paying for shit speed that's why I just tapped my way to it (given that others are doing the same thing too.) Also, I use scripts in MOBA games for boosting ranks. Made me quite a nice sum for playing with scripts in-game.

I really agree coding is the way to go, i'm learning javascript at the moment but it is really hard.
But I found a great website that helps me learn all kinds of coding skills:

https://www.codecademy.com/

The Javascript is a 10 hour course, but i am wondering you have a lot of different options like:
Ruby, html, phyton and I dont really know what to choose maybe someone can help me with that.

Because making a good website is really a good option to make some money, or to start your own business online.

And maybe another idea is making music, it's not online but still on your computer and you only have to make 1 good song to make a lot of money if you do it right!

As mentioned i am from Switzerland so i see your point.

I can barely work for anything not from Switzerland or maybe Sweden as they have for me unrealistic ideas about my loan.

I did some Websites when i was younger for small companies around me, simple Wordpress installations with a little modified themes for easily 500€. Most people found that price ok and my portfolio was growing in a natural way. I also referred people (and still do) to my Github. Most understand barely anything from looking at it, but they see enough stuff that they get the impression that i know my shit. Next to that i also have dummy projects (or visual experiments) which i like to link. Frankly, without any kind of Portfolio its hard to find a job anyway.

Personally i've never seen a big issue with cheap indians or chinese as most people seem to think they wont be able to do proper work anyway. What is wrong on one site, but clearly the worse communication leads to worse results.

I still think you should create something people want, instead of trying to mine pennies somewhere. Or create your own penny mining site!

Sounds simple, but in reality it isn't.
You need a big portfolio and a very good reputation before people actually hire you to do some coding, unless you charge <$5/hour ... The bottom side of the market is full of people from india, china, students making beer money,... The top side of the market is full of big-portfolio, big reputation coders. It's pretty hard to make a living if you live in a country where you need at least $15-$20/hour to make ends meet.

Why not code for others? Or create services people like?

If i would live in a country that is not Switzerland i could easily live from one Website i have and the Adsense income on there. The website is simple and needs barely maintaince, but i managed to make something, that already exists in several variations, so simple and that people started to use it.

I might want to teach myself some new coding languages and code some bots from these games. Friends of mine in real life have talked about selling botted WoW accounts. Anyone who has that kind of skill and has already shelled out for a high performance gaming rig could make a killing

Another one to add to your botting ist would be botting of games, according to news some chinese make their income/extra incomes entirely from runescape and WOW gold: http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/i-make-thousands-of-dollars-a-month-from-playing-computer-games
https://tribot.org/forums/topic/27173-guide-to-a-247-botter/ and http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2011/06/02/chinese-prisoners-forced-to-farm-world-of-warcraft-gold/

I am trying this thread over again. In the previous thread that I created, I was trying to provoke a thoughtful and meaningful discussion about the various ways of making money on the internet. While I will to admit to writing bots in VB.NET for Swagbucks years ago, I think it's pretty uncool to bot a thread and forum not making money inherently in itself as Swagbucks does, and I think it is a bit unethical to spam or bot the little man. Even Robin Hood didn't steal from the poor.

That being said, I am starting this over again. What are some reliable legitimate, proven ways of earning an income online? My answer to this question would be: if you know how to code, at the end of the day you can be your own boss. Anybody who is a hobbist computer programmer has the potential to get hired for paid work. At the end of the day if you have a talent that is needed you will make money. Why do you think online marketing is such a big industry? Those who are good get hired to promote others websites.

If you are talent-less, there are always signature campaigns, filling out surveys, doing captchas, installing junk on your phone and faucets. That being said, it would be wise to combine all of the above to make a stream of extra income online. For those with low income, you might be able to get by with your low income benefits as well as the combined income of the previously mentioned methods, but don't think you can get by.

And if you're going to spam this thread again, upload the source of your bot to http://www.github.com and, if you have the wit to do it, I will give you a job to test the security of my lending project! All you have to do is realize that it's pointless using your coding skills in that way and if you think for a quick second - not like a computer, but a human being, the social consequences of spamming the fuck out of the same thread and raping the shit out of this forum with signature campaigns isn't cool, and it limits opportunity to the rest of us who could definitely use the extra income from signature campaigns.