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Quote from: Pleja on March 12, 2016, 08:24:07 AM

I apologize for the bad calculations,
Your total investment was 10+20+40+80=150
You won 248 - 150 = +98.
You can play system with odds @2.00 and more but system I'm talking about min. odds is @3.00 so what follows is only one type and it is X where the minimum odds @3.00.
I have a friend who played the system,
he start with 10Euro and stakes have gone up over 100euro and bet win (is not trying again).
The system did risky, but how to play a good match probability is increasing...

The chance to get long red streaks will be higher with odds @3.00. This system won't work if someday we found a very bad luck and we unable to win after some tries. We may run out of money to chase our previous loss or we may encounter a max profit feature that the casino applies which will halt us to make the next bet. Indeed martingale could give us profit but if we keep using it for a long period of time then we will meet the bad situation and we unable to handle it in the good ways.

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I think martingale is one of the oldest betting systems. And also one of the most uneffective. You are subject to losing big money if things don't go your way.
Check https://www.betting-forum.com/threads/do-you-use-martingale.83/
for example. It is not recommended.

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Quote from: Pleja on March 11, 2016, 07:56:09 PM

Hi guys
Do you know about Martingale Soccer Bettting System,
system requirement Odds [email protected] Bank min. 10/20 attempts and goodwill.

example:
07.03. @3.20 Stake 10 Lost -10
08.03. @3.10 Stake 20 Lost -20
09.03. @3.30 Stake 40 Lost -40
10.03. @3.10 Stake 80 Win +248
Lost -70 = PROFIT +178
This is an example for 4 days so well define your BANK.
Like I said 10/20 attempts (days)
example:
Start stake 10 / 10 attempts (days) / (10+20+40+80+160+320+640+1280+2560+5120=10230)
Your BANK most be over 11000.

I would publish this game but I do not know if this is allowed???

Don't know if this would always work but go ahead and explain it further with examples if you can. Btw this is wrong:
Lost -70 = PROFIT +178

Your total investment was 10+20+40+80=150
You won 248 - 150 = +98

I know right ! I was busy thinking wtf......
What's this guy on about. Why start a thread you get wrong ? Undecided

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Quote from: iTradeChips on March 23, 2016, 07:08:11 PM

martingale is psychologically satisfying. you feel like you are "beating the system". but in reality, you are always in a -EV situation since every bet is raked by the house.

You lose only if you are out of your bankroll. and if you lose, you lose big.
Martingale in sports is a good system if you have a real good knowledge in particular sport.

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I don't think this will work, Odds with soccer are higher generally and I consider the odds of making some profit higher than dice IMO if you are a good follower and analyzer of soccer games but generally martingale is a more risky to invested money and less profitable strategy.

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Quote from: user64 on March 24, 2016, 05:14:31 AM

This will end up in tears, martin gale is gonna mess you up.never work and it is a proven failure

It will works if you good on bankroll management and have much balance. i know one people that success using martingale strategy on sportsbook. he told me that he can get profit at least 10%/day.

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Quote from: user64 on March 24, 2016, 05:14:31 AM

This will end up in tears, martin gale is gonna mess you up.never work and it is a proven failure

Is there any proof? I think martingale is a great thing to recover your balance, the only problem is how do you manage your bankroll with the basebet and if you can manage it well with some on win limit I think it will be a good profit then

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Quote from: BTCevo on March 24, 2016, 10:52:56 AM

Quote from: hakanbalta577 on March 24, 2016, 07:42:02 AM

For soccer and with 3.00 stake. It is really really hard to win. Maybe adter 10 bets, you can not win anything and will loose all your balance. Roll Eyes

Actually 3.00 stake is pretty high but for some tipster it is possible because I think they have more experience in making parlay so if you want to make some 3.00 stake you should consider using some tipster or if you dont want just aim for who will win for particular game, that is better and your chance to win back some of your money is pretty high if you keep on betting the same team

if tipster always know which team will lose or win, they can be easily rich people but nope, they can not know or predict everything. And the stake is really hard to know.

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Not all time you make profit in martingale strategy.. but there's no bad way if we just try this method.. maybe i can make more bitcoin.. I will try this on parlay but in different sports i will try in golf..

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Quote from: hakanbalta577 on March 24, 2016, 07:42:02 AM

For soccer and with 3.00 stake. It is really really hard to win. Maybe adter 10 bets, you can not win anything and will loose all your balance. Roll Eyes

Actually 3.00 stake is pretty high but for some tipster it is possible because I think they have more experience in making parlay so if you want to make some 3.00 stake you should consider using some tipster or if you dont want just aim for who will win for particular game, that is better and your chance to win back some of your money is pretty high if you keep on betting the same team

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For soccer and with 3.00 stake. It is really really hard to win. Maybe adter 10 bets, you can not win anything and will loose all your balance. Roll Eyes

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This will end up in tears, martin gale is gonna mess you up.never work and it is a proven failure

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Quote from: Herbert2020 on March 24, 2016, 02:41:43 AM

Quote from: iTradeChips on March 23, 2016, 07:08:11 PM

martingale is psychologically satisfying. you feel like you are "beating the system". but in reality, you are always in a -EV situation since every bet is raked by the house.

it is not just psychological, it is working in reality but you will need a very big bankroll for that.
martingale is a way of making sure that in case of success in your next bet, you make up for all the losses hence the increasing bet amount on each loss.

you will never be a long term winner in a betting game where every single one of your bets is -EV. its a mathematical certainty

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Quote from: iTradeChips on March 23, 2016, 07:08:11 PM

martingale is psychologically satisfying. you feel like you are "beating the system". but in reality, you are always in a -EV situation since every bet is raked by the house.

it is not just psychological, it is working in reality but you will need a very big bankroll for that.
martingale is a way of making sure that in case of success in your next bet, you make up for all the losses hence the increasing bet amount on each loss.

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It depends how you play it, since here we are talking about soccer betting system, following a good tipster is the way to go, having a large bankroll, pretty much you will be in win if you double your bet every time, no matter if you win or lose, just make sure the tipster is some guy/girl with great winning history.

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martingale is psychologically satisfying. you feel like you are "beating the system". but in reality, you are always in a -EV situation since every bet is raked by the house.

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Quote from: FrueGreads on March 21, 2016, 02:21:10 PM

Quote from: Barcode_ on March 21, 2016, 02:03:55 PM

You still need a big bankroll for this betting system.

I think you are right, but to be honest it could work, since sports betting is much more skill related than gambling, so I think it's a really good approach to increase your chance to profit.

True, while playing dice I experienced up to 15 red streaks in red while playing martingale on 50% or 49.5%, i really doubt you'll see 15 losses in a row if you trail some good sport capper, probably 5 at most.

If you are a good capper you should just bet regularly.

Increase your bet when you are more confident in the bet, not because you lost the last one. That way if you lose 5 in a row you only lose 5 bets instead of 31.

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Quote from: Amadues on March 13, 2016, 01:23:30 PM

another system that is going good in italy is called "masaniello" search on google the excel sheet.

interesting if you could open a thread to explain that method , since i didn't find yet any reliable source explaining what exactly "masaniello" betting system .
i just found this http://forum.bettingadvice.com/showthread.php?t=26236 , and this one http://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=79&sub=811378 . both are an old posts . i was bored with martingale even it's in sports.

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Don't do martingale. It never works on the long term!

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Quote from: bering on March 23, 2016, 04:10:18 AM

Quote from: 23dzmaz on March 21, 2016, 07:46:40 PM

Actually using martingale strategy on sports betting is good, the problem is the odds. You need find the same odds. But i think bet on 3.00 odds is a bit risky, just find a normal odds x2.00.

if we see OP calculate these strategy have very huge profit if we win but i think bets on odds 3.00 not only just a bit risky but is too risky because sport results are unpredictable i'm afraid if someone try these strategy he will lost with big amount and i personally would not recommend martingale strategy on sport betting

Yes you are right. betting on sports with x3.00 odds is very risky, it's rare to win a match with x3.00 odds. Maybe using martingale and increasing your bet depend the odds.

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I think the martingale will work in cricket betting as their are scores ups and down and team goes up and down so what like you said we can have all odds from low to high, so in this sports betting you can try martingale.

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Quote from: 23dzmaz on March 21, 2016, 07:46:40 PM

Actually using martingale strategy on sports betting is good, the problem is the odds. You need find the same odds. But i think bet on 3.00 odds is a bit risky, just find a normal odds x2.00.

if we see OP calculate these strategy have very huge profit if we win but i think bets on odds 3.00 not only just a bit risky but is too risky because sport results are unpredictable i'm afraid if someone try these strategy he will lost with big amount and i personally would not recommend martingale strategy on sport betting

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Martingale is not smart IMO specially with sports, The house edge is even more with sports than in dice sites and the like, soccer is also one of the least predictable sports too..

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Martingale and sports betting will not work since in sports betting we are dealing with human, example is if a team is competing with a team who is in a winning streak.

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Martingale betting system is a dangerous system and martingale for soccer is not a good idea the reason is because of the odd and it take a lot of time

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Basically unless you have an edge, you might as well do martingale with simple dice. Sports betting is very difficult for most.

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Actually using martingale strategy on sports betting is good, the problem is the odds. You need find the same odds. But i think bet on 3.00 odds is a bit risky, just find a normal odds x2.00.

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I never liked the martingale system. It is making yourself vulnerable as you betting on negative outcomes. This only costs you money than earning it winning, in the long run.

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Quote from: marioantonini on March 12, 2016, 07:09:38 AM

for play soccer bet with martingale you necessity really high balance (if you like bet and earn a good amount).
for the math, you can lose already all bet at odd 3 (personally, i have lose 9 consecutive bet at 1.4 but not in martingale)

Some one made some wizardry to you, I cannot imagine let alone happen to have 9 consecutive losses at an odd 1.4 . This is the worst case I have seen so far on this forum.

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Quote from: Barcode_ on March 21, 2016, 02:03:55 PM

You still need a big bankroll for this betting system.

I think you are right, but to be honest it could work, since sports betting is much more skill related than gambling, so I think it's a really good approach to increase your chance to profit.

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You still need a big bankroll for this betting system.

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Quote from: Pleja on March 13, 2016, 02:20:49 PM

Did you mess me Huh

We're talking about sports betting not about dice or roulette...
I work on sports betting for a long time what are you talking about has no meaning.
If you're talking about dice or roulette or same game with chance for win OK.
But we are talking here about sports betting people,
Here is forecast who will win or loss, or draw,
and everything is decided to look at the form of the team H2H how many goals will be scored etc.
You're talking about some chance, It is not in sports betting.
All you need is good info and good stats.

Martingale, or any other betting system, is not particular of a type of game, like dice or roulette or whatever. Of course OP can apply the martingale strategy in sports betting. Since sports betting also require skill, and is not just about chance, if you do your research, it could actually be a very good strategy to increase your winning percentage even further. It is risky of course, because the system is risky, but if you don't usually have many losing streaks in a row, because you are a skilled punter, then it could be a good wagering system.

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Did you mess me Huh

We're talking about sports betting not about dice or roulette...
I work on sports betting for a long time what are you talking about has no meaning.
If you're talking about dice or roulette or same game with chance for win OK.
But we are talking here about sports betting people,
Here is forecast who will win or loss, or draw,
and everything is decided to look at the form of the team H2H how many goals will be scored etc.
You're talking about some chance, It is not in sports betting.
All you need is good info and good stats.

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Quote from: Dr. Zoom on March 13, 2016, 01:22:09 PM

Using Martingale in sportsbetting is tricky to nearly impossible not because it can't be done but because of the unfavourable odds. You need to have at least 2 odds and only bet on sports that have 2 possible endings which most American Sports are suitable for. I have seen NHL teams with odds near or above 2 which could work with Martingale if you have a huge bankroll and pick the odds wisely.

I've tried this tactic a few weeks ago. And it sure has it benefits. But there is no guarantee it will work with every game.
Which is why i switched back to my normal gambling habits (a few times a week) and that's it.

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another system that is going good in italy is called "masaniello" search on google the excel sheet.

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Using Martingale in sportsbetting is tricky to nearly impossible not because it can't be done but because of the unfavourable odds. You need to have at least 2 odds and only bet on sports that have 2 possible endings which most American Sports are suitable for. I have seen NHL teams with odds near or above 2 which could work with Martingale if you have a huge bankroll and pick the odds wisely.

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Quote from: Pleja on March 13, 2016, 10:18:55 AM

Yes, martingale system (every lost bet 2x).
Why odds 3
example:
Odds @2 after 3 bet start stake 10
-10
-20
-40
80 win =160 -150= +10

Odds @3 after 3 bet start stake 10
-10
-20
-40
80 win=240 -150= +90
higher profits.

Higher profits because it's harder to win, which makes it more likely to lose all of your money.

You have a 1 out of 1,024 or 0.09765625% chance of losing 10 in a row on a 50/50 bet.

If you are choosing bets with 3 odds, you only have a 1/3 chance of winning, so your odds of losing 10 in a row go up to 1.734152%.

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Quote from: SyGambler on March 13, 2016, 04:44:48 AM

well what ever the odds are you can use martinagle at any odds , for me I use martingale when I bet on sports not because it works but because I love to bet on sports and I'm not that expert so when I do it I don't except to make money from doing it
the real challenge is to beat sports without martinagle , remember even when you have an edge martinagle will kill that edge if you use it

The whole point of martingale is that the 2x your bet and the 50% chance of winning are the same (or at least close). Doubling your bet when the actual odds of winning are much lower is even stupider than regular martingale because the only reason martingale "works" is because you expect to win half of the bets. You are much more likely to run out of money or not win as much as you need to if you don't expect to win half of the bets, and you shouldn't expect to win half of the bets at 3.x odds because that isn't' how that works.

People need to stop looking at betting as winning and losing. You need to look at the odds of winning and the payout. those are much more important. That is how you tell what are good bets and what are bad ets and how you make money.

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Yes, martingale system (every lost bet 2x).
Why odds 3
example:
Odds @2 after 3 bet start stake 10
-10
-20
-40
80 win =160 -150= +10

Odds @3 after 3 bet start stake 10
-10
-20
-40
80 win=240 -150= +90
higher profits.

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interesting way to mix things up in the sports betting. please do update us with how things go in the future.

p.s. since you are using odd of 3, shouldn't you increase your bet amount more than 2x on losses?

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we all know that martingale isn't profitable unless you have one of this two factors: a lot of luck or an infinite bankroll to play whit.
Btw never say never, i'll take a look at the thdread to see updates about this method

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i don't think martingale will be profited if don't have unlimited money especially to bet for high odds like that. or maybe OP really good predictor then he can win to save his bet

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well what ever the odds are you can use martinagle at any odds , for me I use martingale when I bet on sports not because it works but because I love to bet on sports and I'm not that expert so when I do it I don't except to make money from doing it
the real challenge is to beat sports without martinagle , remember even when you have an edge martinagle will kill that edge if you use it

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Quote from: Fortify on March 12, 2016, 04:14:04 AM

Why not come up with an original name for it? Just sticking "Martingale" infront of your betting strategy does not bless it with some special ability to be right and different games require a totally new way of thinking in order to win big amounts.

To be fair, calling it martingale is a signal to people with functioning brains to not bother with the system.

Since we are here, this "system" is actually stupider that martingale, if you could believe that.

The whole point behind martingale is doubling your bet on a 50/50 chance. 3.00 odds equals a 33% chance of winning. Since you should only expect to win 1 out of every 3 times, it's more likely that you would lose money in this syste than with a regular martingale. Especially in sports.

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this way is interesting for sure. but i don't think it is such a good idea to use a strategy like martingale for a gambling game like sports betting.

martingale is better used for games that are purely luck-based so you can make sure you are following a path to profit. but in sports betting you should decide on each match and win if you are like 80-90% sure of your win.

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Wow I had never thought of this .. Its cool .. WIll follow this thread and hope to make good profits .

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Quote from: Pleja on March 12, 2016, 08:24:07 AM

I apologize for the bad calculations,
Your total investment was 10+20+40+80=150
You won 248 - 150 = +98.
You can play system with odds @2.00 and more but system I'm talking about min. odds is @3.00 so what follows is only one type and it is X where the minimum odds @3.00.
I have a friend who played the system,
he start with 10Euro and stakes have gone up over 100euro and bet win (is not trying again).
The system did risky, but how to play a good match probability is increasing...

Its still risky and would require a good sum of capital to bear continuous increasing losses. It is easier to win at sports if you know the game/players, don't need to bet like this blindly.

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I apologize for the bad calculations,
Your total investment was 10+20+40+80=150
You won 248 - 150 = +98.
You can play system with odds @2.00 and more but system I'm talking about min. odds is @3.00 so what follows is only one type and it is X where the minimum odds @3.00.
I have a friend who played the system,
he start with 10Euro and stakes have gone up over 100euro and bet win (is not trying again).
The system did risky, but how to play a good match probability is increasing...

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Using the martingale strategy takes too much time when betting on sports. Yoy need to wait hours or days to get the result...
I'd rather bet my money on fast 50/50 games like dice or coin flip etc.

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I would recommend this system would apply to me if I lose that is going to hold together sometimes , but try them

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for play soccer bet with martingale you necessity really high balance (if you like bet and earn a good amount).
for the math, you can lose already all bet at odd 3 (personally, i have lose 9 consecutive bet at 1.4 but not in martingale)

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Why not come up with an original name for it? Just sticking "Martingale" infront of your betting strategy does not bless it with some special ability to be right and different games require a totally new way of thinking in order to win big amounts.

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The main reasons this martingle thing won't work is due to the odds you have selected.Which games you find minimum odds @ 3 ? I'm being very practical here,I usually bet on Football and Cricket and trust me ,no matter how obvious is the result ,the best odd is get is @2.13 or so,not crossing @2.50.When the odds turn out to be that high,its obvious for a reason,the team is gonna lose.If you consider this then there is no point in applying your martingle to the general games people play .

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Quote from: Pleja on March 11, 2016, 07:56:09 PM

Hi guys
Do you know about Martingale Soccer Bettting System,
system requirement Odds [email protected] Bank min. 10/20 attempts and goodwill.

example:
07.03. @3.20 Stake 10 Lost -10
08.03. @3.10 Stake 20 Lost -20
09.03. @3.30 Stake 40 Lost -40
10.03. @3.10 Stake 80 Win +248
Lost -70 = PROFIT +178
This is an example for 4 days so well define your BANK.
Like I said 10/20 attempts (days)
example:
Start stake 10 / 10 attempts (days) / (10+20+40+80+160+320+640+1280+2560+5120=10230)
Your BANK most be over 11000.

I would publish this game but I do not know if this is allowed???

Don't know if this would always work but go ahead and explain it further with examples if you can. Btw this is wrong:
Lost -70 = PROFIT +178

Your total investment was 10+20+40+80=150
You won 248 - 150 = +98

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Hi guys
Do you know about Martingale Soccer Bettting System,
system requirement Odds [email protected] Bank min. 10/20 attempts and goodwill.

example:
07.03. @3.20 Stake 10 Lost -10
08.03. @3.10 Stake 20 Lost -20
09.03. @3.30 Stake 40 Lost -40
10.03. @3.10 Stake 80 Win +248
Lost -70 = PROFIT +178
This is an example for 4 days so well define your BANK.
Like I said 10/20 attempts (days)
example:
Start stake 10 / 10 attempts (days) / (10+20+40+80+160+320+640+1280+2560+5120=10230)
Your BANK most be over 11000.

I would publish this game but I do not know if this is allowed???

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