Topic: May loses the Brexit vote. (Read 471 times)

german comedy already tells the brits to get lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo8Uk9HwU4M&t=289s

Looking like she will try to get an extension of article 50 which could lead to the embarrassing situation of the UK having to participate in the European elections in May. I hope at least one EU member state has the balls to tell May to fuck off, and let the UK crash out without a deal. That's the best thing that could happen at this point to end all this nonsense and incompetence.

another proof for british idiocity, which they proof themselves.

if you read their newspaper, they think may/the leader is the problem, when negotiating with the eu, they think a different leader can get better deals, they act as if they would do a deal with some illiterate tribes in america/africa, and not a deal with an economic block of 500 million with biggest world market.

but its a very precise heuristics done by the leaders, according to economic interests of 500 million people, that everything that counts in that deal.

whats next sending uk topmodels to try to seduce the EU negotiators? they are so naive,

they are so stupid. they act in a way that is completely unprofessional.

Actually it is the other way around, but it depends on how you define the UK and the US. The Committee 300 started by Cecil Rhodes is still in control of most of the Western World - Washington, The EU and the City of London are their control mechanisms. The British Crown still has power over some minor US statutes I believe, and this is the result of loans granted during the US civil war. The UK Intelligence Initiative seems to have been the organisation that was influencing American politics, and not the Russians. You may also reflect on where all the capital outflows from the US end up. It is in the tax havens that form the modern British Empire.

[UPDATE]

I gather that Bercow ( The Speaker ) has ruled that May can't resubmit the EU created "deal". With the comments about the reason Australia and Canada ordered the Type 26 frigates, it's looking as if my comment from months ago may have some substance. I suggested that they were going to shove the EU under the bus to get rid of the debts, and expand the British Commonwealth as an alternative.

Yes we know. It's fairly easy.
UK will be the lapdog of their former colonies, USA's pet.

UE was the only way for them to get independant from USA, they're leaving, they fall under their new master.

They have NOTHING without USA. No trade, no protection, no army, no nuclear bomb...

this guy is such an idiot, he thinks, communism/nationalism will be strong in uk after they left the EU.

no one knows what uk will be then

1. a christian kingdom?
2. white national socialism?
3. communism with countless unsuccessful icos?
4. a chinese/indian/muslim colony?

what i also would love to know is, is brexit a white nationalist movement?

when you left the EU you will have at least a 50% PRO EU opposition in your country. thoset want to sell stuff into EU and want to have nothing to do with their communist/nationalist government in londo, because they dont want to not live in extreme poverty.

The EU has a lot of Economic Power, its big, its technically advanced, its productive.
regards

Brexit was only going to be the start. What it has done is to expose and publicise the activities of the Committee 300. They control Westminster, Washington and the British Civil Service. The Koch brothers are part of the Committee, and it is now apparent that they are the dynasty that is pushing Washington into war over Venezuela, The good news is that the people of the US are joining the groundswell that seeks to break the dominance of the Committee. If the UK does stay in the EU with voting rights it will be mayhem, and they will be active in seeking to destroy the EU, and it won't be difficult given the populist revolution. Greece is an example of the results of giving in to those who control the EU.

in sweden all anti EU movements disappeared with brexit. you must be on the right path. then....

Oh, please, no delays! Let's get it over and done with already. I have mastered Amazon.de and Ebay.de, so no more need for delay as far as I am concerned.

Well we are starting to see the protests over the delays, and there is a threat the lorry drivers will combine to block the main arterial roads if Brexit is delayed. It seems that Brexit has become the red herring to divert attention from the Italian banking crisis. Brexit won't bring down the Euro and the EU, but an Italian banking collapse could well be the beginning of the end.

germany heute show message to britain 15.03.2019 (yesterday)

you can use translate function

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTL_4NQRBoo&t=168s

That seems to be my impression from overseas as well. It seems to me most of the types who want to remain are the kind who just repeat what is on their TV all the time mindlessly or they are just tired of the conflict and don't care to think about the consequences.

I'm quite encouraged at the moment. I've watched quite a few videos of interviews with small business owners, and I've phoned a few people. The general impression that I get is that they have all prepared for a true Brexit, which was the only option in the referendum, apart from staying in with no change of course. It looks as if the government is actually planning for this, and have reduced tariffs to boost the economy. This appears to be contrary to most of the reported facts and poll results. I have yet to find anyone who wants us to remain with the proposed government treaty, but my contacts may not be representative of the country as a whole. It certainly represents a majority of those who were born in Britain, and have a primary allegiance to the country.

chinese buying ports wont change a lot, they have to run them.

It's certainly a good explanation, but he doesn't take it to the next level. The ministers in Westminster are not incompetent or working against their country. Their country is the City of London, and that controls the EU. A true Brexit is just the start, we have to get rid of the treasonous Eton/Oxford elite in the Civil Service and Westminster once we have regained self-determination. Theresa May is a graduate of St Hugh's, Oxford, where she gained a 2nd class degree in Geography. Amongst other jobs, she has worked for the Bank of England.

Britain purports to be a democracy, but the real truth is that unless you have political ideas that are acceptable to the City of London rulers, you will have difficult in gaining a nomination in any of the major political parties.

I believe that a WTO exit is still the most probable result. There may not be any time left for any other option. There doesn't seem to be much mention of a restriction that I believe binds the activities of a British government. This is that a government cannot bind its successors in an unbreakable treaty, and, if this is so, then May's deal could be determined to be Ultra Vires.

The EU is a minor trading partner of the UK, and most of the  EU commercial banking is routed through the City of London. I think they are extremely concerned about having to renegotiate toxic derivative agreements based on LIBOR.

Sargon does a good breakdown of the current situation IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxcaxweRZYM

In summary everyone is between a rock and a hard place. The MP's don't want to be the ones with their names on what will result in years of financial chaos. By financial chaos I mean punitive measures the EU bureaucrats inflict in an attempt to force compliance with its own dictates. This is a push toward globalism, and the people of the U.K. have voted to retain their national sovereignty. This will have serious ramifications on the ability of the rest of the EU to function as well, and could vary well lead to its collapse as a bureaucratic supranational entity.

That's a very complex topic to answer. England has a very complex social structure, and it became more polarised as a result of the abolition of grammar schools. The ruling "class" still keeps the old British Empire alive, and they now seem to regard the City of London as their country and the UK and the EU member countries as income sources and providers of assets. They control the British parliament, as well as the EU. The British Crown still has a number of global powers, for example, The Queen is still able to enact certain statutes in the US, and this goes back to the financing by the crown of both sides in the Civil War. It's the old  trick of taking assets or rights in settlement of debts.

At the moment it is not clear how the hands on the tiller are going to steer the ship in the future. There are a few clues though. The increased military spending in the US and the UK, and the disregard for social and economic projects indicates one aspect of future emphasis. The types of weapons are also significant - the type 26 frigate that is being added to the navies of the UK, Canada and Australia seem more suited to the protection and occupation of smaller islands and countries, than major international conflicts.

It is difficult to see how an unprepared complete break with the EU can be avoided. Because the 2 years that was designed to allow for an orderly re-arrangement has been abused by attempts to change the result of the referendum, the government has done nothing to create a sensible trading environment, and neither has the EU. No doubt they planned for chaos, and thus the ability to step in and "restructure" the country. Hopefully, we will be able to avoid this, and to get rid of the career politicians with no credentials other than a ppe from Oxford.

If it looks like shit
It tastes like shit
It smells like shit

It's probably shit.

I should have asked differently. What do the MPs want? It looks like an inoperative institution by now.

We want our country back, and then we can reverse the decline that the EU has caused. The RU has had it. They've been letting the Chinese buy the ports in their member states ( countries ), because the states needed money to pay the tythes to the ruling bankers, and to support the profligate EU administration. Now the Chinese are starting to lean of the slave states to influence members of the EU parliament.

We want to be out of the whole corrupt, greedy organisation.

I forget to mention that we can come out of the EU under article 24. This means that we keep the same trade deals for 10 years, but not the other stuff.

Just what do British want exactly?

Ir was fairly simple - we had a referendum, and we were told that "Brexit means Brexit". In breach of parliamentary regulations, the government printed a load of leaflets, and spent a lot of money to try to influence the country to stay. The country voted to leave, and the legally binding rules for leaving state that there should be a two year period to negotiate any new trading agreements. A remainer was appointed as prime minister, and the civil service and most politicians worked to try to reverse the result of the referendum. We are now in the position we were in when article 50 was triggered, but we no longer have the two year period to negotiate the new trade deals. The only advantage of this delay is that it has shown up many of the treasonous politicians and civil servants. Rhe question is - will we have a new government that is strong enough to "drain the swamp".

Much work seems to have been done to create a new British Commonwealth ( read British Empire ), and the military seems to be being strengthened to support this. This year will be an eventful one with the problems in France, Italy, Germany and Spain. Also there are the flash points in Venezuela, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the South China Seas, and many other locations. You can expect Britain to continue to be active in all of those potential war theatres.

Things look a little messy with the brexit thing going on, but a clever Brit will put Marmite on the bread and keep the Worcester sauce to spice up a dreadful but healthy Brussels Sprouts soup.

It seems that UK fall in the ''Twilight zone'' without way out.
Their politicians are really not responsible and smart and they will bring whole country to chaos.
I had respect before to this country but now it's to funny ti watch their debates in the parliament.
I hope they will weak up and do the ''right thing'' accept only realistic and possible solution, Brexit plan negotiated between EU and their government or this will become worse tragedy.

you overestimate yourselves, as soon as the eu banks get punished by the population they will develop their own standards, besides banks lose meaning in EU and in UK

after brexit you will eat bread with worcester sauce

I'm starting to believe that the original plan once the surprise result was known, was to push for an unplanned WTO exit. This was to be designed to create massive disruption, and then allow the bankers to return with a new plan for the British Commonwealth. We now see that defence spending is increasing, and exports of world class weapons such as the type 26 frigate are increasing. The plan is obviously to create a much stronger Britain with its own pseud-independence. The battle now is to gain real independence

The banking issues are real red herrings. Most EU derivatives are based on LIBOR, and the EU doesn't have a common language, although there was talk that they should adopt English, what an irony. The bankers are not going to move out of the City of London, and many seem to consider that it is more important than Wall Street in international finance. Banks will no doubt expand branch offices in the EU, but most of the derivatives markets are routed through London, and it will be a massive cost to change this. Sterling also has a stronger and more stable future than the debt ridden Euro, so why would they want to embrace a dying asset. The Euro was a great creation to continue the expansion of the German economy, but it looks as if it has served its purpose, and Italy and other countries will probably bring it down. That is without even considering the impact of the failure of Deutschebank.

With regard to tax havens. During the period of the decline of the British Empire, the wealthy elite created a complex structure of trusts, and there were written into UK law. Most of the Western World's wealth is hidden and accumulated in these, and this won't be changed. They are the reason that the world's truly wealthy families and dynasties don't appear in the rich lists.

Third if I may
https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/
But that's nontheless a very important member of the EU no doubt.
Not quite simply because UK Brexit was a surprise but the fact that UK wasn't really a full member isn't new. Most companies have finished a Brexit plan and the leave of UK won't be too much of a hit for a group of 27 countries.
All of them having already set up new organizations in Ireland or Monaco. They're not the only tax heaven in Europe.
This is just conspiracy crap thrown without real purpose.
That's false, Britain will be massively stronger once it shakes off the EU AND ITS CURRENT GOVERNMENT FORM! Most people in the EU blame the EU but that's dumb, they should blame their government. EU already gives shit tons of tools to enforce important policies for your country and you have no obligation to do most of what the EU decides. People tend to believe that there is no longer power in local governments and everything is in Bruxelles but that's completely wrong. There are tons of local power simply the parasites in power are far too happy to comply with EU leeching policies.

Leaving EU isn't a final solution, it's just the beginning :/
Which is the case for most European powers and is just the result of incredible technological advantage. Nothing to be proud of.

Nevertheless I wish all the best for UK people and hope you'll get rid of ALL parasites and not just leave EU and do nothing more believing it's over.

You've just started a war, Brexit is a first win, an incredible one, a needed one but it's just a first battle

Good luck <3

as far as i know EU burocracy, the no deal default outcome is 100% sure

and i am fine this way, the brits are in an foreign trade defizit with the EU, they are effectively a burden

I still think that they're going to force a referendum or something at the last minute. For example, tomorrow Parliament will probably vote to extend, but then the EU will require a second referendum as a condition for extension. And brexit will lose in a referendum.

In the unlikely event that no-deal brexit actually happens (which IMO is the best long-term result for the UK), I'll strongly suspect that this was May's plan all along, explaining all of her weird behavior, and I will be very impressed.

It will be interesting to see how they handle a possible extension. If it is for more than 3 months, then the UK will be electing members to the EU parliament, and they will stay there for 5 years. Can you image the fun if all the UK members are anti the European Union, and despite the media reports, most of Britain is anti-EU. Then Britain leaves a few months afterwards, and the EU has to put up with all those anti-EU members from a country that is no longer a part of the EU.

[17:30 UPDATE]

Theresa May has refused to allow a motion to rule out a "No Deal" Brexit.

Other keypoints so far in the debate.

- Theresa May says she will vote against no-deal Brexit

- Jeremy Corbyn tells prime minister: 'This is no way to run a country'

- Philip Hammond slashes growth forecast and issues fresh warning over no-deal Brexit

- Tariffs on most imports to be scrapped if there is no-deal outcome, government says

- No Brexit is a bigger risk than no-deal, Stephen Barclay says

everybody ignores everyone else who doesnt support ones agenda, and spamms into his channels. nowadays.

ignoring me will lead you to basically mis a lot of information,

-> EU doesnt need foreign trade deficit britain.

complaining about burocracy in EU is one thing, leaving it is something else.

let the british now eat their worcester bread.

No one knows how politicians think.
 Is it prudent not to leave the European Union? What will happen in the future?
 Just watch.

I can't reply to the Royal Scorpio as I have been ignoring him for a few months. He seemed to base his info on Fox news and CNN.

I've just been watching this video from an "Anonymous", and I won't venture an opinion as I have mixed reactions. It discusses Brexit, Russia, Washington, Trump and a few other things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD3yX708UDQ

uk is also communist burocracy, not just EU,

the big difference is, the EU produces the value of the stuff it consumes itself and isn't depending on foreigners

if something is disintegrating in europe than its the uk. soon scotland, north ireland and wales will be part of eu.

and english will eat their worcestersauce bread sandwiches.

people will flee uk communism like they flead soviet communism

It will be interesting to see how the vote today goes. If they block UK independence, and insist on the uncertainty of staying under the control of the bankrupt and disintegrating EU, then I suspect we will see an increase in the activities of the yellow vests that have already arrived in England. The real sadness is that 2 years of negotiating have been wasted. That could have been spent in arranging trade deals with the countries in the EU who have suffered under its rule.

  keep dreaming.

and get used to bread and worcester sauce.

you langauge reminds me on communism and nazi-ism

There is so much misinformation about England and the UK. The UK is the 5th largest economy in the world, and it is the second largest contributor to the EU. The EU will be in a mess after we leave. The City of London controls getting on for half of the investments in the western world, and it does this through a series of trusts set up in UK tax havens. The Eton/Oxford elite have combined with Harvard and the Sorbonne to create an organisation that rules America, Great Britain and the European Union. This is why Clinton and Obama became presidents, Macron was engineered into France, and Theresa May ( a remainer ), was appointed prime minister here. The ruling dynasties are The Rothschilds, The Vatican, and the British Crown, but about 10 others are members as well. The Koch brothers are probably the movers behind the attempted seizure of Venezuela.

Britain will be massively stronger once it shakes off the shackles and leeches of the EU. Never forget that it created the largest empire the world has ever known, and this empire lives on as the City of London.

at least something good is reaching uk from the continent, wont be much more once uk is out of the EU, since you are effectivly unable to pay/afford european imports.

uk sandwich even nowadays consists almost 100% by EU imports..

from:

ham, tomatoes, cheese, and cucumbers from europe will be gone,

future uk sandwich:

bread and worcester sauce

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiyewI52lwg

I predict expansion of yellow vest protests into the UK shortly.

I think that politicians in UK parliament are ''out of their mind''
Really, I don't know how to call this but stupid and crazy.
Because of their action they will, in fact, stay in EU for a very long time and eventually people will just give up from this idea, Brexit and become upset with politicians.
It seems that nobody in the parliament thinks about future but just how to win in their ''small politic games''.

That can be said about almost all politicians.  I think it was Jimmie Cliff who said "Poli" refers to many, and "Tics" are parasites. 

What a load of treasonous deceitful animals they are. We need to get rid of most of them as soon as possible. They keep saying that nobody wants the real Brexit we voted for, but that is what everybody I speak to is demanding.

Well she lost 242 for her rubbish deal, and 391 against. Tomorrow they vote to see if they take the thing the people voted for off the table.