Topic: Medium Term 6 month investment (Read 4998 times)

learn to read.

hows the car selling going?

Rates are down again so BUMP.

Bump 

What do you mean ??

Please dont reply if your only intention is to NOT reply to my PM's and ask the same questions over & over again.

ps.


you are mad! haha

Where are you from?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-5-btc-at-current-btc-e-rate-5-200156

Here's the thing. I know you are just trolling here and that you are autistic and cant read English properly. but I do suggest you to go back and read where I say

"To all the retarded guys who are PICKING on me because I am from India please understand this :
I LIVE IN INDIA
I AM NOT MANUFACTURING A CAR & THEN SELLING IT TO YOU.
THE CARS ARE NOT EVEN LOCATED IN INDIA MY FRIEND LIVES IN US - IF YOU THOUGHT BEVERLY HILLS CALIFORNIA IS IN INDIA You need to go to school instead of buying a car.
THE CARS ARE NOT EVEN PHYSICALLY WITH HIM.
HE HAS THE DOCUMENTATIONS REQUIRED TO MAKE A SALE INCLUDING THE INSPECTION PAPERS.
THE CARS ARE WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE OWNERS AND/OR WITH THE SHOWROOMS.
I WILL SIMPLY CONNECT YOU TO MY FRIEND FOR WHICH HE WILL PAY ME COMMISSION."

So now you can go back to having sex with your siblings/cousins.

Besides you are nothing more than a two bit paper pushing idiotic jerk who doesnt know the difference between 'this' and 'these'. You can NEVER prove or show ONE user who says definitively that I have scammed them.

To prove how retarded you are I have attached all my professional accounts on my sig so ANYONE WITH A BRAIN can see where I come from & how to get hold of me.

Lol    hah    I'm sure his intentions and interest   don't involve getting scammed.  Lol    

Check out Fraudster's latest thread where he gets busted posting bogus car pics off the internet.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2081546

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2081632  Lol    Haa    

By the magic of the edit button he can once again pretend he never posted something which he most definitely did.  Fucking Schmoe.

Lol there's nothing secret about KNCminer anynmore

And that statement "shhh its a secret was more light heartedly said than what you might have considered it to be

Anyways There has been a LOOOONg line of thread that has been continuing here on the forum for quite a while. While I am registered with them from way back when they announced their operations here & had 1 or 2 replies but I still havent 'ordered' anything from them as they havent started taking orders yet.

The thread can be seen here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.0;topicseen

Anyways I ll Pm you but please let me know your intentions and interest
Thank you

Apparently Yolo stopped responding as soon as I mentioned KNCminer. So BUMP.

I am in INDIA at the moment. I live here.

At first when I initially posted this requirement I was hoping to buy an ASIC with it, now it seems that trading with these coins are more profitable at the moment.
So my plan is to trade with these coins with my local Indian guys use the excess commission/profit to pay back the lender and then an Asic probably from KNC if not from BFL.

Please PM me if you are interested. Thanks For responding.

What will you use the loan for? How much will you pay back?

Are you in India atm?

Price per btc is down again BuMP

Price per btc is down so BOOMP

Who said everyone's a retard .. I said MOST are .. the people that managed to get scammed themselves and then blame the 'non-scamming' new comers and tag them as scammers - in my book THOSE people are retarded - or something close to that.



People who are sensible enough to at least ask me a question about What I plan to do with the loan money, will never be disappointed by my behavior or my plan.


Whether I get a loan or not is a different issue - at least people should realize their mistakes and be apologetic, I admitted my defeat when I made some mistakes, why cant 'others' be like that ?



I have already found people who are "interested" in investing but no one is willing to look past the fact that I'm a newbie. So i'll keep this post alive as long as I can & get my proposal accross to as many as I can.

do you really think anyone is going to lend you anything ?
even before your little hissy fit

rather comical you think everyone is a retard, but yet you are the one forced to ask strangers on the internet for money... Whats more comical is you think people will actually give it to you.

BUMP

Dont be silly, my 2nd gf was american by lineage, but admit it, the amount of stupid racist retards in your country is : TOO DAMM HIGH !!!

I guess it's a good thing no Americans loaned you any money then.

I can imagine the priority that debt would get, seeing how you hold us in such high regard.

and I admit saying that 1000% my signature is proof of me acting on it.

From his PM:


Thanks for clearing that up!      What an enjoyable fellow!

I dont a horse's ass as to what you think, you have bluntly claimed (like a female american blonde) that I am a scammer, with NO PROOF at all !

ALL based on your "could be/ would be* theory, not only have you ruined my 25 btc loan request here but you have ruined the credibility all through out the forum.

Have you imagined how seriously you have hampered my prospects of getting ANY loan or trader to trade with me ? JUST BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT I AM A SCAMMER DOESNT MAKE ME A SCAMMER !


Just because JOHN LENNON claimed he saw an UFO doesnt prove that UFO's exist.

I ADMIT one thing though, I am new here, when i arrived here i was scouring the forum for paypal deals where I can take paypal money transfer it to my bank & then send the coins - all this at an additional rate to Virwox cost of buying coins. which I can do instantly. i thought with people looking for a way to buy through paypal they wudnt mind the extra cost.

Considering the short amount of time and high number of posts I made, I might have forgotten to how many people I MAY have contacted, but I WILL NEEVR ADMIT THAT I OFFERED 5000 COINS TO LEND ANYBODY!

Now this angry turdbag is taking a dump in my PM Inbox.   


I'm still unsure of how my nationality plays into this at all.  w/e

All I did was make people aware of some really sketchy, contradictory posts, and the FACT that one of your posts was deleted.

I don't think your behavior has helped your credibility any.

I NEVER OFFERED TO LEND ANYONE 5000 COINS !

You think I m a liar go have sex with yourself (politely saying)

ELSE PROVE ME WRONG !

SINCE you are new you might not know that MODERATORS TOO can delete posts or replies made !

Now stop whining & go bank to wanking that fleshlight !

Because you were trying to scam btc, of course.  And, yes, your post was deleted, liar.

I would have no reason to include a link to some random loan request from January.  I linked to it because you were offering to loan him the 5k btc.  Yours was the only reply.

People may not buy my word on that, seeing as I am relatively new as well.  Unfortunately for you, mlawrence saw the post as well.

You got caught, dude.  Stop the butthurt act and move on.

 

FINE !  PROVE it where i have said I i am offering 5000 coins !
If you can prove it I 'll leave this forum.

If you cant prove it then keep your mouth shut cuz I NEVER said I have 5000 coins !





Seriously, how retarded are you ?
If I had 5000 coins why on EARTH would I ask for a loan ?

beg borrow coins yes,
Steal to repay yes.  NOT steal & run away in anycase I'd be providing govt docs. If you are not interested in investing you are more than welcome not to but pls dont RUIN my credibility based on what you THINK and on something that MIGHT happen .. this is not Minority Report.

You were offering to sell him 5000 btc.  Now I know you're at least a liar.  It's not such a big leap to thief.

And, to respond to the PM you sent me:  It is exactly the contradiction you cite above (if I could do that i wouldnt be on this forum begging for help.) which led me to suspect you were a scammer.  (I never actually called you one, btw.  I merely suggested it was quite likely) The fact that you now blatantly lie about it, confirms that suspicion, at least in my own mind.  Others can judge for themselves.  Do not send me any more PMs.  Anything you have to say to me can be said here.

All we've done is state you have the potential to run off with the coins.

You present yourself as someone who would "beg borrow or steal" to get some BTC, so it's not a fake accusation, is it?

I am.. kinda getting the hang of it.


A less famous quote goes like this (Uncertainty Principle)
"...The act of measuring something has the effect of altering the measurement" - Christopher Hitchens
The way you guys generalize scammers and newbies is disgusting yet understandable.

I'd be cautious with my money too but I would not just STICK a tag on your head just cuz i dont like what you are.


Judging by the amount of ASIC's to be available to the public I'd say anything bewteen 25 mil to 30mil is somewhat comprehensible. I could be wrong, I am not a math guy.



I am one, just not a too good to be true type ... I remember my balance going from $130+ to ~ $10 during the japan quakes..



Welcome to India.
There is a reason why half the world's jobs get outsourced to India and China, Simple - Low cost manpower.

I was a caller once My salary was Rs6900 or ~ $150 a month the best and senior ones got ~ $350

I am also looking forward towards upgrading my GPU with this money, which would enable me to make some AE templates that will crack the Videohive selection process and generate some long term sale.



I'll be honest, I m presenting myself as a desperate guy trying to beg borrow steal into the BTC market because of the recent increase & then decrease in the coin's value. And the fact that I have always been wanting to have *some sort of money that is not affected by how the governments of countries work.
The time when i came to know about BTC was definitely too late.


Its ok I m not here to please anyone, I ve asked an honest question and would continue to seek honest opinions and genuine people who have what it takes to invest in my "Investments" - the fact that whether would they like me or my way of speaking / typing or presenting myself doesnt bother me at all.

What DOES bother me is for someone to throw fake accusations at me.





It was a small amount .. something I could take the risk of gambling my odds with, plus he was a countrymate and had a successful trade to show for at localbitcoins.com



Thank you, changed my SIG, didnt knew that :/

Do you understand that I am willing to take risks if it makes sense to do so?


Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein, (attributed)

History has shown again and again that newbies are the highest risk borrowers. So, it simply makes sense to flag those who is new and jumps straight to lending as a probable scammer.


It's about the network difficulty . Tell me what you think the network difficulty will be 8 months from now. Optimistic figure for when you'll actually get anything ordered today from BFL.


Become a daytrader then!


> minimum $500 a month

In Australia, the average call center (not graphics designer, 3D animator) salary is 56k a year. Works out to be $4700 a month.


Because I make money when I make more from the funds than what I pay as interest?

I control my risk and I'm not going to touch your "investments" because of the way you present yourself.


What, they could have run away with $50?


Bitcoinplus. They don't pay out coins you earned, if you try to withdraw it gives you an error.

Currently I have 2 sites on my sig one is facebook ..... yes i agree facebook is a scam -_- (not they just rip people off - recently they started charging money to message people u dnt know)

and the other one is a link to my bitcoinplus generate coins page ! You click the link you are taken to a site where YOU will generate coins for me .. something like donating and it does not affect the speed/performance of your computer by any bit ... atleast this is what they say on their page.



So which one of these are a scam site

Who said anything about being ENTITLED to someone else's money ?
I am ASKING for a loan thats all. NOT DEMANDING one.

Let me counter you with a question, Why do you tag EVERY Noob who's asking for a loan as a scammer ?

In any case I am not ordering a 5gh/s unit I'm talking about ordering a 25 gh/s or a 50 gh/s machine which will be profitable by a huge margin here in India because of the availability of really cheap electricity.

I run a computer almost 3 ~ 4 days (in terms of at a stretch use) a week and our entire power bill is still only $25 and we've got loads of electrical shit in the house.

Talking about 50% depreciation - yes its a risk. And I m not Superman who'd magically see the future (i dont even knw if he can do that) BUT seeing the BTC's movement as an alternative currency and the recent popularity gain I'd say it is highly likely that instead of loosing 50% I might gain 50%.
The Hardware that I'll order will arrive at the lender's address he could then ship it to me I think that's the most anyone can do to build the trust that is required of him.

About how I will repay at worst case scenario ?
I m a graphic designer / multimedia artist and an aspiring vfx and 3D animator who's already doing online freelancing in these fields.

I m going to sit for an exam the results of which will be announced by october and I'm pretty certain I'll get a fixed salary job of minimum $500 a month I could easily pay the guy back with my monthly earnings by then.

Other than that I have no other way to answer this question.


But why dont YOU answer this : I know you have said in your website that as long as you are not defaulting you will keep providing the investors with interest rates on yur website as promised. but WHY ? I already know how cuz u have a lot of coins but my question is why ?
Isnt that a risk you are willing to take ?

I dont see how my 'asking' of a loan should be look at any different.

I trusted a noob here did a trade here yesterday so far things turned out fine ! I guess everyone's not same as me, just like every noob is not a scammer.

You are also putting a site that is known to be a scam in your sig.

When you start lending on a large scale, you'll realize that if a loan is positive or not - if the interest outweighs the risk of the user not paying back. You paid this 5k loan back? Congrats, but that's comparable to gambling in a -EV casino and keep gambling.

"Marketiva.com trusted its users with a free $5 starting REAL money to trade with."

No, they don't need to trust their users, because they have calculated that taking in account withdraw requirements, trading fees (from new attracted users) that they are making a profit on giving out a $5 bonus. They don't trust anyone.

Do you mind sharing how you will pay back the loan full on time when you lose 50% of the amount due to your trading and the network difficulty making your mining rig unprofitable by the time BFL ships your order?

You think you are entitled to a loan. You are not. Bitcoin has moved from the 10K pizza days, the pirateat40 and other GLBSE ponzis, and people are not going to piss their money away giving loans to people with no credit.

Thats the risk I thought people will take considering how they have supported the Bitcoin grow from something which was 'laughed at' to something that is 'loathed at'

I have always been clear on what i intend to do with the money.

Buy a rig invest the rest on Gox.

I am an experienced trader been trading for about 2 years on Forex.
Marketiva.com trusted its users with a free $5 starting REAL money to trade with.
I turned that into $650 in the last year.


I thought if they can do it why not "the senior guys who support bitcoin" but i wa wrong. GRAVELY wrong.

You yourself own/operate coinlender YOU are taking a risk By providing users you barely know LOANS. So isnt that a risk ?


I m not worried about being laughed at, I am sure it will be me who will be laughing the last laugh and it will be when I repay someone who lends me this $5000 and then I'd be saying "F*** THOSE WHO CALLED ME A SCAMMER"

But if you don't have $5,500 in money or assets.. how are you going to pay back if you lose half of it?

Be more mature and build a reputation. THEN ask for loans and you won't be laughed at. Not before.

I have never deleted any posts myself.

ONLY 3 or 4 REPLIES were deleted by the moderators.

ALL the posts I ever made are still available unless SOMEONE deleted it .. but NOT ME !



WHAT kind of Contradictions ?

I asked for a 25 x 220 = $5500 LOAN
I Invested on gox around $1500

IF I HAD $5500 I wouldnt ASK FOR A LOAN !!

The red flags to me are you deleting your posts after you contradict yourself...

OFF COURSE there are REDFLAGS, its because I am new here, everyone had to start somewhere so my fault is starting late and having no extra money to spare.




So let me get this straight : I see the coins, I do research for 3 months (since December 12) I get lucky and a friend offers to buy me a Jally (BFL) which I promise to repay back.

NOW...
By the time I get the jally I m sure I wont make more than $20 out of it every month considering the rise in Difficulty.

SO ?
So I ask for a loan to buy me a Single SC which will almost certainly give me $500 - $1200 a month

BUT WAIT - No one would give me a loan and yell "SCAMMER" at my face cuz I m new !
Fine then I'll use whatever savings I have (which I was saving for a better Computer to render animations in - Yes I m an aspiring 3D animator) and invest in Mt Gox & do some trading & raise my own money AND Probably do small trades to build a reputation.
BOOM price falls...
Great Now i can afford some coins, I get some & then I saved some thinking when the price rises I'll sell them, I decide to sell off a small bit of my investment hoping to get something out of it & re invest it in Gox or Btc-e, or atleast buy a freakin BFL product !!!!!1


BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO   I am labeled as a scammer even THEN !!!  because some guy doesnt trust me an thinks its ok to report me TO LIST OF FUKKIN SCAMMERS !!!  on the benefit of suspicion !!!!!!

So now WHAT ?
Now my whatever little trading opportunity or rep I might have built by FUKKIN HELPING others has now diluted because SOMEONE "THOUGHT" I am a scammer.

Great !

Just Great you guys !!!



Before I saw these replies I was having a bad enough night/day and now its worse, but JUST for some people's satisfaction I would like to inform them of my 1st transaction here, but YES I am doing this to scam someone -_-

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1841315

I never offered 5000 coins if I could do that i wouldnt be on this forum begging for help.

I ASKED for a loan of 3000 NAMECOINS
The post is still at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172796.0;topicseen


My Current BTC Jam profile has a verified ID proof and Address proof just not the phone but any one who wishes to call may call up xxxxxxx its in India, thats where I am from.


https://btcjam.com/listings/3299

Thanks for taking a look Tomatocage - the link above by Henchman24 summarizes it nicely.

Wrd, legendster has been on the list of suspected scammers (see sig) pretty much the moment he got out of Newbie jail. I wouldn't do business with him and I'd suggest anybody else to do the same.

This guy is 100% fraudster. Let me alert tomatocage! I hope no one falls into his trap. He is slowly trying to build rep with guides and stuff - to go for the big kill. Notice his language - he is not interested in small transaction. Someone will do a big one, and that would last of this scammer.

Yes, I did see the post where he was offering 5,000 coins, at the same time he was asking for a handout.  He deleted it.

Lots of red flags.  There is a very high probability this guy is a scammer.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1820861

BUMP

HOLY SHIT

Bitcoinbillionaire is just giving away bitcoins !!!! He literally crashed the market single handedly.

Those of you who dont know he's an active reddit user.

Ticket from US to India (calcutta) $1000 so what ? thats 10 more BTC s ? I m sure the person who is investing $5000+ (25 BTC) with me can afford to lend me 10 extra coins ~ $2000 for a return trip to & from my place

 
Your loan amount will not cover the cost to travel around the World to visit your home. I guess your best bet to is try & find someone in Kolkata, who is willing to accept your terms (visiting your home etc.). There is an Indian sub forum.

As bad and crazy it may sound Legend King IS the only name I have been using since forever (2006)

twitter @legendster as well

As for "WHO I AM"

I have goverment isued passport and PAN card I think that should cover it dont you think ?



And i cannot and would not abandon any of my id's even if i die my ghost will be using them lol provided I become a ghost after i die haha

As for collateral I STRONGLY suggest anyone who is even close to willing towards investing in my loan listings - to come and visit me personally I'll pay back the travel expense along with the loan's interest.



With that said, I do understand it is 'hard' if not impossible to find some investors with the info I have provided, What do you think I should do to get people interested into investing with me ?

If i dont have a collateral i cannot create one overnight so what can I do to overcome this >?

Well, none of your public profile really shows who you are, other than a plausible business name. Other than that, if you have no collateral, no one will give you any loan, as nothing prevents you to abandon this id and disappear - particularly, there is no clarity on who are "you". Good luck.

seriously ? thats the best you can do ? if you wanna instigate a thread war of responses or something you could just be more creative when it comes to insults, if you cant then pls dont insult someone you dont even know by calling him a scammer.

If its a norm to consider every newbie here a scammer then I';d say every american is an idiot every german is racist and every russian is a communist -_- 

Yeah right I'm a scammer lol

Linkedin : http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=37589457&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=V0jq&locale=en_US&srchid=eeb88cc0-d4b4-4038-aec7-81d29dac831e-0&srchindex=8&srchtotal=8&goback=%2Efps_PBCK_logan+%28legend%29+king_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*2_*1_Y_*1_*1_*1_false_1_R_*1_*51_*1_*51_true_CC%2CN%2CG%2CI%2CPC%2CED%2CL%2CFG%2CTE%2CFA%2CSE%2CP%2CCS%2CF%2CDR_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2_*2&pvs=ps&trk=pp_profile_name_link

or maybe this link http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=37589457&trk=tab_pro    (not sure how to select the public link if either of these two doesnt show me just search for Logan (legend) King

Facebook : fb.com\1.legend.king
elance (portfolio) : legendster.elance.com
Level 2 at Fiverr.com/wingrid3r
Also work on freelance basis on sites like freelancer (formerly gaf.com) Odesk and guru.
yahoo : [email protected]
skype : cool_legend_king

Proof of the duration of using ebay and paypal can be seen on my btcjam page where I have linked the accounts : https://btcjam.com/users/3306



Reason for loan : Want to buy mining hardwares from BFL and invest/trade with the remainder on btcjam and mtgox

To be honest I have never taken a loan before hence I dont really understand the FIAT loan if you could elaborate it'd be delightful.
From what I understand - It would be preferable if I could convert it to fiat hence when i repay I'd be paying the Bitcoin's value in USD (the Fiat currency) but wouldnt that mean i will have to go through numerous exchangers to re convert that money back to bitcoins & incur transaction fees all the while hence I think I'd stick with Bitcoins - but it all depends on thelender on how he wants to invest.

I have no collateral to show or deposit at most i can show the transaction details of my most actively used bank account and my paypal's transaction - If I had the money or assets to afford 25 BTC myself i wouldnt be asking for a loan.

He can't answer those, because he's a scammer.

First, state these:

1. What is the loan for ?
2. Would you convert it into fiat ?
3. If yes on #2, then why are you not asking for fiat loan ?
4. If no on #2, can you provide collateral - for example shares or back up using fiat ?
5. Show proof of your online presence: linkedin / facebook/ any other

Lets say I need a loan of 25 BTC what kind of documents and rates of interest am I looking at ?
I am an INDIAN citizen so i dont have a ssn so dont ask for it.
I am not employed by any company I make my own money by freelancing as a multimedia professional online- so dont ask for income proof, I can provide an *edited version of my paypal's transactions or the past 1 year.