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Quote from: Gaetalin on February 25, 2019, 01:02:46 PM

Some time after the publication of this topic account in telegram which have nickname @CryptoSarapal was deleted. If it really was not you, then ready to delete the topic. Looks like someone tried to impersonate you.

Another lie. Give up. You've been caught red-handed. You consequent lies have proven beyond doubt that it was you who made the fake telegram account. Only you could have made that screenshot from your outbox.

Quote from: Gaetalin on February 25, 2019, 09:55:17 AM

My Telegram nickname is in profile.
I hidden my email after this dialogue in Telegram. Before that, the email was public.

I also thought it was a fake. But I was confused by the same DGB address.
But, why would another person give the address of the wallet is the same as Alex? Or someone trying to pierce Alex.
I don’t know.

Quote from: suchmoon on February 25, 2019, 10:28:37 AM

Give it up.

Quote from: taikuri13 on February 25, 2019, 01:00:00 PM

http://archive.li/KCZXc

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2275131

Five days ago, e-mail was hidden.

Quote from: suchmoon on February 25, 2019, 08:53:09 AM

OP - when did this conversation on telegram happen? How did that person find you on telegram and why did you immediately believe it's Alex_Sr?

Edit: the above probably doesn't matter, seems to be fake just based on this:

The screenshot was taken from your own outbox (because it has the e-mail icon but your e-mail is not public) and your fake telegram chat shows it as if it's coming from the fake Alex_Sr.

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Quote from: Gaetalin on February 25, 2019, 01:02:46 PM

Some time after the publication of this topic account in telegram which have nickname @CryptoSarapal was deleted. If it really was not you, then ready to delete the topic. Looks like someone tried to impersonate you.

That someone was you. Some random schmuck couldn't have obtained the PM screenshot.

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Quote from: Gaetalin on February 25, 2019, 01:02:46 PM

Quote from: Alex_Sr on February 25, 2019, 12:54:51 PM

Quote from: Gaetalin on February 25, 2019, 06:29:35 AM

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Impressed! Very good manipulation! Here is only my account in Telegram - @Cryptospekulant

Some time after the publication of this topic account in telegram which have nickname @CryptoSarapal was deleted. If it really was not you, then ready to delete the topic. Looks like someone tried to impersonate you.

Trying to compromise me gives me extra energy to search accounts farm!

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Quote from: Alex_Sr on February 25, 2019, 12:54:51 PM

Quote from: Gaetalin on February 25, 2019, 06:29:35 AM

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Impressed! Very good manipulation! Here is only my account in Telegram - @Cryptospekulant

Some time after the publication of this topic account in telegram which have nickname @CryptoSarapal was deleted. If it really was not you, then ready to delete the topic. Looks like someone tried to impersonate you.

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Quote from: suchmoon on February 25, 2019, 10:55:16 AM

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Technically it is possible for the "envelope" icon to be visible for other users if they made their e-mail address public. I have their profile scraped a week ago and that wasn't the case.
~

http://archive.li/KCZXc

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2275131

Five days ago, e-mail was hidden.

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Quote from: Gaetalin on February 25, 2019, 06:29:35 AM

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Impressed! Very good manipulation! Here is only my account in Telegram - @Cryptospekulant

I understand that many farmers accounts loses because of my topics a lot of money. I'm very impressed with the attempt to compromise me.

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DT 1 Member risking his account & credibility for $50? I’m not believing that to be honest, nice try.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on February 25, 2019, 10:31:05 AM

Quote from: Gaetalin on February 25, 2019, 09:55:17 AM

I hidden my email after this dialogue in Telegram. Before that, the email was public.

That envelope you see marked by suchmoon is displayed only in OUTBOX messages -> messages you have sent.

The alleged Alex_Sr telegram account approached you with a screenshot of your own OUTBOX msgs. Nobody except you has access to those unless you prove you've been hacked.

Technically it is possible for the "envelope" icon to be visible for other users if they made their e-mail address public. I have their profile scraped a week ago and that wasn't the case. So barring some precisely timed ninja-edits to coincide with when Alex_Sr allegedly took that screenshot, I think it's safe to say the telegram chat is fake.

Edit: removed my thoughts on telegram as it's not actually showing up as I expected.

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Quote from: Gaetalin on February 25, 2019, 09:55:17 AM

I hidden my email after this dialogue in Telegram. Before that, the email was public.

That envelope you see marked by suchmoon is displayed only in OUTBOX messages -> messages you have sent.

The alleged Alex_Sr telegram account approached you with a screenshot of your own OUTBOX msgs. Nobody except you has access to those unless you prove you've been hacked.

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Quote from: Gaetalin on February 25, 2019, 09:55:17 AM

My Telegram nickname is in profile.
I hidden my email after this dialogue in Telegram. Before that, the email was public.

Give it up.

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Edited 2020-11-30 to fix a broken image

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Quote from: hacker1001101001 on February 25, 2019, 08:04:29 AM

But how can one explain the coexistence of the the same DGB address on both the profiles here?

for the sake of argument, i want to believe that they are the same alex on both twitter and bitcointalk, but that proves nothing, unless he can prove that alex owns that telegram account too.

you see the twitter addition to his claim is nothing but a deceiving tool, it's like when you have to solve a math equation, and you start by proving that water is wet, while water is indeed wet, the math equation can still be wrong.

OP needs to prove that alex is the one who contacted him on telegram.

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Quote from: suchmoon on February 25, 2019, 08:53:09 AM

Nice catch!
You can also know that the picture is fake from the number of posts, I don't think it will be visible for the PM receiver.

OP, this accusation will make you get more red tags.

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nice, went from -2 to -64 Roll Eyes

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Quote from: suchmoon on February 25, 2019, 08:53:09 AM

OP - when did this conversation on telegram happen? How did that person find you on telegram and why did you immediately believe it's Alex_Sr?

Edit: the above probably doesn't matter, seems to be fake just based on this:

https://i.snag.gy/pg2Q49.jpg

The screenshot was taken from your own outbox (because it has the e-mail icon but your e-mail is not public) and your fake telegram chat shows it as if it's coming from the fake Alex_Sr.

My Telegram nickname is in profile.
I hidden my email after this dialogue in Telegram. Before that, the email was public.

I also thought it was a fake. But I was confused by the same DGB address.
But, why would another person give the address of the wallet is the same as Alex? Or someone trying to pierce Alex.
I don’t know.

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That pretty much sums up the whole topic and all the fabricated pieces of evidence shown above, good catch suchmoon!

I'll try to leave appropriate feedback to OP as I'm getting a little tired of these fake accusations of late.

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OP - when did this conversation on telegram happen? How did that person find you on telegram and why did you immediately believe it's Alex_Sr?

Edit: the above probably doesn't matter, seems to be fake just based on this:

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Edited 2020-11-30 to fix a broken image

The screenshot was taken from your own outbox (because it has the e-mail icon but your e-mail is not public) and your fake telegram chat shows it as if it's coming from the fake Alex_Sr.

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You can't prove anything here while you are dealing with a member outside the forum which maybe twitter or telegram only if he OMed you through his BTT accout will take into consideration rest can be faked or intentional of ruining his reputation.

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Quote from: Avirunes on February 25, 2019, 07:41:25 AM

Having same ID in telegram or twitter ID doesn't means that both are owned by the same person. For example: I don't know if Lauda also have a twitter with @GrumpyKitty but I can also create and try to frame Lauda like OP is doing in this case. (I don't have such intentions tho just showing an example)

Lacks solid evidence and hence this report should be held invalid.

Yes, I agree just have same telegram and twitter username do not mean the accounts are owned by same owner.

But how can one explain the coexistence of the the same DGB address on both the profiles here?

Quote from: Gaetalin on February 25, 2019, 06:29:35 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.30044702 + http://archive.fo/il1ir

Here is also the address DGB:
1. https://twitter.com/CryptoSarapul/status/962197576115216384 + http://archive.fo/1NUUY

2. https://twitter.com/CryptoSarapul/status/969892060831547392 + http://archive.fo/BRRrg

I too think the telegram conversation in the OP looks some what edited as none of the DT member will ruin his repo by asking funds to remove a tag.

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Those cases are very difficult to proof. Same as the suchmoon accusation
Nowadays everything can be done with Photoshop/gimp. I think this is just a lost cause....

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Quote from: morvillz7z on February 25, 2019, 07:13:22 AM

So let me get this straight, Alex_Sr sent you a message 4 days ago stating he will not remove his negative feedback.

And then all of a sudden he decides to risk his account for a $50 bribe. This does not scream fake at all. Grin

Quote from: The Cryptovator on February 25, 2019, 07:28:39 AM

Lol. Nice edit. So did you paid him?

Quote from: coinlocket$ on February 25, 2019, 06:41:56 AM

Am I wrong or this can be a fake telegram screenshot?

The conversation and the "profile" are on different screens so this can be a fake.

You guys should focus on this:

Quote from: Gaetalin on February 25, 2019, 06:29:35 AM

His nickname in the Telegram is exactly the same as the nickname on Twitter.

Having same ID in telegram or twitter ID doesn't means that both are owned by the same person. For example: I don't know if Lauda also have a twitter with @GrumpyKitty but I can also create and try to frame Lauda like OP is doing in this case. (I don't have such intentions tho just showing an example)

Lacks solid evidence and hence this report should be held invalid.

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Lol. Nice edit. So did you paid him? Even you had sent him token it doesn't prove anything that he asked for money to you. I don't believe that someone from DT will ask 50$ for remove negative feedback's and he leave forum. If this is 50K then it's believable story. Anyway, as mdayonliner asked you to provide evidence, can you please provide it ? It might be help on your case. If you can prove it then I don't think he will be on DT anymore. On the other hand ask sign message before send any fund to forum DT. Because if you collect my btc address from forum and sent btc doesn't proof that I got bribe. Because my address is public and anyone can send fund to claim for bribe. So please provide appropriate evidence otherwise may be more red tag will reflect on your profile.

Perhaps someone try to cheat you and someone trying to pierce Alex. Even you record live video that doesn't mean you chat with original person since you don't know his telegram user. Matching telegram username and Twitter username doesn't prove you are chating with on real person.

Quote from: Avirunes on February 25, 2019, 07:41:25 AM

Having same ID in telegram or twitter ID doesn't means that both are owned by the same person

Got it and edited post.

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So let me get this straight, Alex_Sr sent you a message 4 days ago stating he will not remove his negative feedback.

And then all of a sudden he decides to risk his account for a $50 bribe. This does not scream fake at all. Grin

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Am I wrong or this can be a fake telegram screenshot?

The conversation and the "profile" are on different screens so this can be a fake.

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That proves nothing. Is there any source where Alex_Sr mentioned his telegram account? No, right? Anyone can create an account with that nick and send you text demanding payment for removing the trust.
Address is same because anyone can create a telegram account with that nick and chat with himself. Better you ensure telegram account is owned by Alex_Sr.

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Quote from: Gaetalin on February 25, 2019, 06:29:35 AM

But after a couple of days he sent me message in Telegram, where he wrote that he was ready to remove a negative trust on the account, after I pay.

Can you record a video with screen-cast of the telegram?

1. Scroll the messages up and down several times.
2. On record close the telegram and reopen it and
3. again scroll up and down.

Do the scrolling slowly so that we can read the contents.

Have the video unedited. And upload it in Youtube or any other video hosting service.

If you do not have the telegram in your desktop the learn how to use it in desktop and then do the recording.

Also can you prove that the telegram ID is his? Remember: Telegram username can be changed.

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UPD: The user, who sent me message on Telegram is not real Alex_Sr.

Quote from: Alex_Sr on February 25, 2019, 12:54:51 PM

Quote from: Gaetalin on February 25, 2019, 06:29:35 AM

<...>

Impressed! Very good manipulation! Here is only my account in Telegram - @Cryptospekulant

I understand that many farmers accounts loses because of my topics a lot of money. I'm very impressed with the attempt to compromise me.

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