Topic: Meme Coins Vs Presales (Read 450 times)

Do any of the memes actually make sense to you?

Like could you see playing a Pepe civilisation?

Could you make a whole folklore out of them like how Tolkein's Hobbits not only were a whole culture idea but spun off all the variant "halflings" and so on?

I got involved in a group of meme coins known as Sci-Fi coins, though I didn't get into them all since I am still not familiar with the Red Dwarf or whatever milieu the "dollarpound" is about and when I tried to mine the Klingon Empire Darsek it blew up not just my last surviving GPU but also the entire motherboard.

But a few I followed and still follow, and of course I also have some of the United Sci-Fi Coin (USF) that the chap with the Grand Nagus avatar image here put together to try to consolidate all the various factions of Sci-Fi into one combined coin that gave credit to holders of the others to try to make one coin all who had backed any of them could hopefully be compensated with for their evident failure to actually build anything around their various Sci-Fi choices.

I got involved because of course any strong Sci-Fi mythos is of potential use within my Galactic Milieu even though by any kind of official launch the names will need to be nerfed (what do you think of "Gnomish Portable Lucre" as politically-correct rename for GPL and GPL2?)

The point is if the meme is something whose mythos appeals to you, whether it be the naked greed of the "gnomes" (Gnomes of Zurich, maybe, as a nod to Steve Jackson Games' "Illuminati" game?) or the cooperative collaborative ideals of the United Federation (of planets) Credits, you will have something you can make use of yourself regardless of what happens to the original developers, who might well be just a bunch of greedy "foreigners" (which apparently in Indian is ferengi...)


-MarkM-

I will rather sit on the fence and watch the market do his thing on miss out meme coins or presale token than participate in any of them. Meme coin are now the most risky thing anyone will ever think, anybody can create something just for fun and you don't know what's on their mind and you expect me to put my hard earn money into such coins? I wouldn't try it and presale as well, the history of this two things are not good for crypto.

I don't know why you also think AI will give you really insight, there are many things that has happen in crypto that I think if do my own research, it will help me than depend on AI. It's even better to do research on good coins than go for the OP you mentioned, you are not getting scammed when you buy coins on the market you know and if the market is good, you will definitely make some gains.

Hey KillerEyez,
First off, let me ask you something. You're over here asking for investment advice and yet I'm guessing (and it's a pretty safe guess) that we both use AI to navigate this crypto space?I do too.
And honestly, I find it kinda weird that you don't mention using an AI tool like myself to get the answer you're looking for. It's not exactly rocket science - just plug in your questions and voilà! You'd think someone as savvy as yourself would've thought of that already.

Now, onto your actual question: Meme coins vs Presales. Look, I'm not gonna sugarcoat it for you. Both have their risks and both can be profitable if done right (or wrong, depending on how you look at it). But here's the thing - why are you even asking us? Can't you just use your AI to get some solid insights?

I have already some allergy when it comes to presales on which usually into those sales that i had participated on which it had resulted into disaster. What happened? The listing price was way below on the
presale price on which the devs had set out to be that way and i have been on couple of situations on which it did really end up on losing up thousands of dollars just because of hoping that this could something
that will make me rich. Out of a little desperation but still i do make out those usual measures when dealing up with presales on which making up some research about the project when it comes to utility, realistic roadmap,tokenomics and other usual checks for a new project but of course not all of those things will guarantee about the legitimacy of a certain project. It do all falls down into the dev or team
whether they would really be that serious with their project or simply just trying to make some rug pull in the end or simply abandoned their project once they had collected the money.

Same goes with meme coins too on which investing with these coins are really that too fast paced. You could easy earn x10 or more but same goes on losing your entire capital as well.
This is where i could really be able to say that luck is also a determining factor when it comes on investing on meme coins. This is why its really that recommended that you shouldnt really be doing all in investment
with it with having this kind of approach because you do get easily rug pulled and bust up tons of money on the time that you do deal up with meme coins.

Everything is risky nowadays you have to be careful with your investments. Memecoins and preaales both are risky investments in both cases you have to check who is behind the project. So both investments can lead you to complete loss of your capital amount so be careful and choose projects wisely whether memcoins or presales projects.

Memes are still the king in terms of shilling, but, I agree - it's not the reason for you to bring your funds to them or to hope for good to happen afterward

In recent time, we are having good development in few things as peoples are better understanding about these projects so they are having no intention to take these seriously with usually peoples those are investing in these project due to experience are having loses even developers are still keep going as they are having no creative minds, and they are doing tricks to have money from others wallets to their own.

In last few months, we are having too much hype about few things but after having worse ending now things are coming normal but keep one thing in mind they are not sitting because they understand mindset, and they will try to have new ideas about bringing money from others pockets with their scam mind, so it is better just never give them good intention and do your good search before ending in any project.

Yeah, and what brings profit eventually in the long run

I don’t see any difference in presale and meme coin investment, the two are just too risky, which I won’t recommend anyone try. There is bitcoin and other strong altcoins, so I don’t even know why some people prefer to take that kind of risk, it doesn’t make any sense, and if they lose, they will end up blaming other people for their mistake.
 
If I am left with no choice and I can only choose to invest in either presale or meme coins, then I will rather go for meme coins, most of the pre-sales don’t really end well. If you are lucky, you might be able to make some good amount of money, but it’s just difficult to know which one is going to perform well. I know the same thing is applicable to meme coins, but I will just choose meme coins over presale.

I prefer Presales more than meme nowadays  ,Memes coins are not that very much profitable nowadays personally i am more into presales cause i made more there. People have different ways in which they make profits one should just stick to what suit him best .

During the pre-sale ICO days, it's always the best first who gets the most return when the launching was done. But this time, I don't think that presales are still a good thing to invest with. You expect that most investors are going to dump with the coming projects that are in the market. It's very important to know what you are up to when you're investing. While with meme coins, they're not different with presales but it's just that many investors prefer to invest on it as their lotto ticket because based on their past performances, some surprises are happening with these meme coins.

But that shouldn't also be a reason for someone to invest on it. Make sure that you have done your research and invest to what you really know. Because no matter what your preferences are, it is still you that will find a way to invest and earn from the projects in the market. Or much better stay invested to Bitcoin and some top altcoins.

Both have attached risks; on meme coins, we all know that memes are tools for pumping and dumping these whales; if you don't know the right time to invest and to dump, you will end up losing or cutting your losses.

On presales, you have to follow the project's development. You have to check to see if they are fulfilling what's on their roadmap and if the developers are communicative. You have to be patient along the way, as projects from presales are created for the long term.

So you have to ask yourself where you are comfortable. Are you patient, or are you willing to take risks for quick profit?

Yeah, only crypto degens usually take such risks, however, they usually are those who also have experience that makes the odds a bit better for them
But it's not worth it, especially if you want to start like that in crypto.

Pre-sales are always having high risk factor with just peoples those understand things like these are having good gain from them because it's never been easy to jump into these with usually we have huge drop if someone want to invest then surely he needs to work on this project because having good updates related to this project and use case are mostly works better and give opportunity to choose can you handle this or just wait for the listening date and then invested in this project.

Most of the real investors are never invested in these projects even we have good trend in last few years due to having 2 good projects which were related to be meme coins but now scammers and hyper are taking good advantage of this and doing things which are mostly not good for investment, but we are having serious hype and too much lost, but still most of the peoples are not understood this still investing and losing their money if any user is interested then surely he needs to wait or do with top solid coins.

Since that day I no longer invest in this way, following the pre-sale, which maybe for people who entered the first session they could still say they were profitable at that time, but I did it if I didn't forget the third pre-sale session.

That day I was too confident because this project was indeed quite good, and many people were talking about it on my channel, but it turned out that it was not as expected and only became a valuable lesson for now, the importance of paying attention to who is behind the project and who the project backers are to ensure the sustainability of a project in the long term.
The problem was the token supply which was uncertain at that time, because I believed that the supply would not be more than 10b but in fact the team released the token supply more than 20b, it disappointed me.

They are both risky but I will lean towards presale since you are buying at the bottom so no matter what kind of shitcoins you are buying means you are purchasing it at bottom price. Your only risk is when no one buy the token after the presale since no one can absorb the sell pressure from the presale participants to maintain the price above the presale in able to get profit.

While memecoin can give you much massive loss since you are just directly buying in the marker while there’s a lot of old members get their token from airdrop and other task that will use your money as exit liquidity.

Presale has less risk compared to memecoin so I will choose presale.

I have invested in pre-sale. And I invested in about 20 pre-sale. And in fact only one project succeeded but that coin is now ashes. I agree with you not to try to invest in pre-sale or meme coins even if you think it is a good project. Unless you are a high risk investor and it is not for everyone. You can lose all your money because pre-sale is very prone to scam and rugpull. Only 1 out of thousands of pre-sale projects will actually succeed.

Well it's risky either way, still to this day, I hate meme coins but if you have these two choices only I would go for meme coins. Presales are risky af considering that it might not get to see it being listed to any exchange either way.

Meme coins are hyped af and that's just helping it for its value in the short-term. I don't think I should list any meme coins, but if you have been in the "Realm of the Internet" for almost a decade, you know what memes are already. I wouldn't go for the long-term with  that coin though for obvious reasons.

Either way has high risk and you're like playing in the casino either way. It is either lose-lose or tiny bit of a win but you still lost in the long-term.

DOP presale was a shitfest, the uncapped pre-sale only means they are trying to grab money from people and they did exactly that and I know it from day one it won't end well.
unsurprisingly price has been tanking since the day it was listed in various exchanges



I think it's largely due to people figuring out that there were too many DOP holders who are ready to dump their presale coin so people just didn't buy it in the market, afraid becoming exit liquidity.

so just avoid presale if you can.

Pre sale is high risk because we have to spend money to get the coin and we don't know for sure whether it will be good or bad in the future we have to see the rodmap. I always avoid spending money from my pocket to buy new coins for meme coins my suggestion is to get it for free by following the airdrop event

If you are capable to afford losing few dollars then it’s okay for you to experience both of them, but honestly as most members here advised you, it is better to stay away from them especially Presale projects that comes with higher risks and cons. We are humans after all and we like to experience things by ourselves, that’s why I said at first if you can afford few dollars, pick the trending projects and memecoins and give it a try.
Personally, if you want to spend some money in such investments, why don’t you try Telegram new meme coins, there are many projects in a shape of bots and games, you can play, invest few bucks there, and increase your chances to get more coins, and sell them after launch.

After all, altcoins are very risky when it comes to new projects and these type of coins you mentioned, I can’t believe any strategy nor ways to predict, especially these days where market is straggling to gain any good percentage of increase.

Last time I participated in a presale on the DOP coin, which made me lose money, because the post-listing price was much lower than the presale price I bought, this was disappointing fortunately I only used a little of my ETH to buy this coin.

Investing in presale coins is very risky, so don't overestimate it as much as possible, although there are some people who get huge profits when they participate in presales, but of the many projects that do such mechanisms, only a few, and most of them are lower than the main market captive price.

Whether it's a meme coin or an investment in a presale project, it's better not to have high expectations, treat it like gambling, use the money you are ready to lose on such a project so as not to make you go crazy.

There is definitely something that we need to do, and for that to mean something we need to be careful about it, and it's a very valid situation to handle. I know that it takes time for this work well eventually, but that doesn't mean that we are going to do bad, it just means that we are going to end up with something that takes time. For this to mean something, we need to consider how that could be done in a good way, it has to be something that will take some time. For this to actually have some good results, we are going to see this changing all together.

Hopefully, memecoins are bad enough that they will go away, presales is a method and I do not think that presales will be gone. So this battle between them will end, because presales will be the winners and that's the most important part and at the same time we are talking about something that will be taking a while, it's not going to be all that crazy in the end, memes should be gone.

Honestly i don't like meme coin because of the big risk but for now i am slowly convince because there are a lot of meme coins that can give profit depending on the way of choosing them if you know how to choose the good one to buy then you'll be fine same thing with other altcoins it is also good if you know how to choose the only hard thing is to choose or to point out what coins can really give us earning.

None of these is exactly the right way to go. I do not invest into presales, and I do not invest into memecoisn neither and I suggest the same to everyone as well. I know that it feels like you will be doing fine, but the reality is that you are not going to get something huge, we should consider that as not a big deal if you just avoid these two.

I invest into good coins and tokens that proved that they are good, that way I do not get shocked, since I know what they are about. Best case scenario, if I can help it, then I do not invest into anything that hasn't been around for 3 or less years. This way, if a project has been around for 3 years, that means it is going to be a good one or a bad one and we will know about it.

For me none of them is good. What I always think about that is a honeypot of scammers, if you keep investing in those tokens its like you are tolerating those scams and provably that they continue on those methods they do since these scammers think that there are lot of people will going to feed them.

Much better for people not to look any obvious scam tokens and better to focus on ideal investment which is reliable old coins in the market.

I understand that its really exciting to speculate the outcome of presale or meme coin investment, but if scamming has been pulled off by scam them for sure it will be devastating to us.

You will gain more profit if you believe into the project from the get-go, but the risks attached, sometimes, are too high to do so

the need to observe the coin carefully, that is something that needs to be done before entering the market, where after showing market performance, that is what we can choose and make the right choice, where developers attract people to enter by continuing to do so.

So will memecoins and presales be your investment strategy? Rest assured that is not a good solution you are more like gambling not an investment strategy.

If you want to invest enough in bitcoin and do a strategy that you can how to buy with your accumulated version so that it continues to grow every time.

I say memecoin and Presale is not something that is good for your long term if you are lucky if you find the right memecoin, but if not you will lose even the token rugpull this has happened a lot even though you expect a different sensation but we don't dare to invest only relying on memecoin or presale to get profit.

Would you suggest a particular platform to explore for DYORing.. like something that ... maybe not 100% .... but guarantees that the presale is authentic

I agree, without the referral base, info insides by being the shiller, or other means, it's not viable to go into memes. It's a gamble otherwise, and everybody knows it, yet not everyone uses this knowledge.

And then again, you won't have info sources that would tell you about it beforehand to fix the profit and or don't loss your funds (if you are not the shiller or don't know the founders of the not-so-known coin ).

Both options are bad and the risks involved are huge simply because the only reason why any of these coins could go up is if someone pumps them and you can't exactly predict a pump. A completely useless scam token that has a 100% copy paste code could get pumped a lot more than another memcoin that is still useless but the dev put an effort into making it look appealing.

The only solution that exists is for you to learn to read the market. If there is any hype surrounding that shitcoin. If there is any growth in the volume and other indicators of an upcoming pump...

I agree with you, utility attracts funds from different foundations and drives innovation forward (which in turn gets more funds for staying innovative, and so on ). It's better off to try to find something like that than going with the trends, which memecoins use, and sometimes it works, but most of the time, it leaves people involved dry.

For the comparison to be logical, Meme Coins and Presales should be two opposite investment models, meaning that at the same time, you can either invest in Meme Coins or Presales, but some Meme Coins contain Presales.

In short, if the project is good and provides solutions to real problems, its value will increase and therefore it is a good investment, but in the case of Meme Coins, it is a trend, meaning that it can rise for no reason, so it is more like an adventure.

In general, if you ask me, I will choose a more logical investment for you, which is either to buy Bitcoin or the blockchain that attracts most of these Meme Coins or Presales, such as Ethereum or Solana.

Just as the memecoins, really As everybody already said - it's not the most stable ways to put your funds into, I would take a look at other possibilities at hand. If not going for the oldies of the market, at least pick someone with real utility behind their belts for your funds to be in check.

Nobody care about presale anymore honestly, it's just money grabbing, the newest project always taking the path of getting profit from staking or finding investment from the big investment company.
as for the project that did presale, most of them just prey of vulnerable retailers like us and will flop. recent example is DOP, so many people actually lost money from this pre sale because the price just keep tanking.

meme coin is still okayish but there are too many scams already. you honestly better off staking your money in some new project that's backed by big investment company that are reliable and also have their smart contract audited.
the risk will still be there, but at least you won't risk capital loss of your money because it's not exactly buying, you just putting your money on custody which I know some people might find it risky, but that's just how it is with investment.

Honestly both are probably the worst thing ypu can throw your money into.  Presales and Icos are basically just created to enrich the devs immediately so even if there was a project behind it, it takes all the incentives out of pushing hard.  Amd with memecoins there are a zillion and they are all made inere minutes as insta scams.  Yeah greed pumps them from time to time but most likely will lose money in those trades sooner or later.

Personally, I don't like Presale & Meme. So you won't get a positive answer from me. Presales are almost dead. I can't see much solid project there lately, just a Ton of scams around presale. They just aimed to raise funds and drink beers. They just forget about the project after presale ends. On the other hand, meme is like gambling. We don't know which meme will pump hard. There are a lot of meme tokens. But only a few move up hardly. Rest tokens just lead to dead zones. That's the reason I don't jump on memes as well. I like to trade solid coins only. 

Meme coins & presales are both investments that can go badly wrong but if I was in the position where I had to recommend one area of crypto to avoid it would be presales. I got burnt recently in a rug pull presale. Meme coins can be shady but at least you can see if a coin has an active community & liquid market before deciding if you should invest.

Presales are quite risky these days. The project can exit scam with your funds, so beware

As both as high risk investments we keep aside a fund for such activities and I am sure most of the veterans would agree with me as memecoins and pre-sales both are risky but one good coin can change the way our portfolio looks but at the same time it's not easy to select the right projects and there are higher chances of getting into shit coins as well hence I personally don't allocate huge funds for this about rather a small portion.

I personally don't recommend people to go with either of them if they want to invest more than they could afford to lose.

These kind of investments carry are huge amount of risk. So if you have some money kept aside for gambling and if it doesn't pinch your pocket if you loose them all, go ahead.

But if you do not want to take risk with your money, stay away from both. Crypto market is not like stock market where a company needs to prove its worth before they can be listed in an exchange. In cryptocurrency, anyone and everyone can just create a token and arrange for a presale or list it into a decentralized exchange. There is no due diligence process involved.

So stay away if possible.

It is best not to, but if you're willing to take risks, then check the lesser risks regardless of where you will invest meme coins or Presales. Check the usability and its contribution to the community. If it's another copy-paste of dead projects and it's more likely to end up as a pump-and-dump project, be sure to be on time with the pump and early to dump to your token so you will not lose your investment.

The strategy has always been to make a profit and dump as early as possible. Cut your losses, do not attach yourself to any token, and be ready to dump.

My current dilemma is that i find myself weighing the pros and cons of both meme coins and presales. Whether making quick gains should be the best option or early investment with presales 

Have chked cmc and CG lists but still not convinced. 

Meme coins OR Presales ----Both have their excitement and thrill and both can lead to a dead end...

What should be my investment strategy?

And for the record i am exploring Pepe Unchained and Mega Dice Token presale.... so if anyone has any reference or solid intuition regarding anyone then please lay it out...