Topic: Merit awarding (Read 679 times)

It is true.
Anyone can change the way they are posting.

My suggestion for person complaining is to find out few things he is good at,
learn more about Bitcoin and blockchain, help others solve problems, or any kind of help,
and you will get some more merits for sure.
I saw some fantastic examples of members ranking up fast.

If you simply add something positive to the forum, be nice to people & make even moderately good posts you’ll get Merit.

At the moment you’re just coming across as an angry, bitter dick head.

Seriously, it’s never too late to change the way you post. Try & be helpful, provide some positive insights, help people.

You’re clearly not stupid, you can string a sentence together. Give it a go for a week & I bet you’ll gain at least 5 Merit.

Change this mindsets of yours and you'll definitely see a different result considering if you up your game in regards to contributing positively to discussion. Fighting the system won't help matters (it has never helped anyone). you just have to embrace the change and search for ways to benefit from it which the obvious is been productive on the forum.


Don't have the stats to back this up but from my observation, most of the old members you speak off aren't interested in the merit system per say (excluding the merit sources) so you just have to find better excuses for your lack of recieving merits and not this.

It certainly doesn't automatically increase with post count, but hopefully you've learned what the merit system is all about from the replies here.  There are Newbies or Jr. Members with over 1000 posts and zero (or almost zero) merits earned.  If you tend to make thoughtful, constructive replies then your chances are a lot better for a correlation but there's no guarantee that you'll earn more merits as you post more.  Some of it depends on which section(s) you're posting in.  There are ones like Bitcoin Discussion which are filled with spam, and there isn't a lot of reading being done there and chances are if you make decent posts in that section, they'll get missed.

Good advice, although Mining is a tough section to even post in.  If your post isn't on-topic and constructive, the chances are it'll get reported quick.  And I think in order to earn merits in the technical sections, you really have to know what you're talking about.  Not sure if OP has the stones to earn merits there.

It might be funny to you, but it's not surprising to me in the least.  Older members tend to frequent Meta, and that's kind of been a long-standing thing.  You also don't have to kiss anyone's ass to earn merits.  Your posts just have to be good and visible to people with sMerits to give.  Unfortunately there are so many shitposts around that it's hard to even find exceptional posts.

Well, this wouldn't be the first time you've felt overwhelmed by me.

I would hardly say they were jumping to my defense. Much like in the thread you were initially referencing, you made a point that was incorrect (only native English speakers can earn merit), and you were corrected. One of the old sayings of the internet states that "the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer." If anyone (including your perceived "ass kissers or kissees") posts incorrect information, they can expect to be corrected. It's really not a big deal. In fact, I often merit people who point out if I've made a mistake or there is a flaw in my logic.

That might work on some, but I'd like to think it doesn't work on me. My ass couldn't care less

Have you considered the possibility that "old members" have experience, and have seen the terrible spam from account farmers? This is why theymos created and later enhanced the Merit system.

Yes, the airdropped Merit isn't fair, but it is the way it is. Several people (including me) have suggested to (slowly) reduce the airdropped amount, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.

No, you don't need to be a native English speaker. I've seen a few members with quite bad English, but the content of their posts makes sense and they've earned a lot of Merit.

That being said, you don't look like the type of spammer the Merit system was supposed to stop, so I've merited one of your posts. If you use the system as a motivation to improve yourself, you too can help to improve this forum.

So the opposite of clicking a link is kissing ass? What a weird world you live in.

It's a forum. If you can't participate in a discussion to the point of refusing to read what other users post, then yeah, you're gonna have a hard time.


You need a new dictionary.

"injustice" <> "petulant newbie throwing a tantrum"

Also o_e_l_e_o is not my "buddie", our relationship is much more complicated.

Either way I wouldn't be able to get a decent amount of merit.
Also you would probably enjoyed if I kissed your ass for merit. And that's what others are probaby doing to get 1 merit and reach 100 after 3 years. Not going to do that though. Probably that's what this system is about.
Kissing old members ass.

So funny how all these members somehow collude to make a point. Why did you jump in the discussion suchmoon? You felt overwhelmed by the injustice against your buddie "o_e_l_e_o"?

I do think this can be an issue at times. I make an effort to merit posts which I think are constructive or contributing well to the topic at hand, even if I don't agree with them, and even if I happen to be arguing directly against them. I know several other users who are pretty vocal in their intention to use merit in this way as well, but I agree there is a generally feeling that merit equates to like/agree.

At least we don't have the problem reddit does of ordering posts by merit received/upvotes. It becomes an echo chamber of popular posts rising to the top, and any dissenting or unpopular view, regardless of how well it is argued or presented, or sometimes even regardless of it being right/correct/factual, being buried at the bottom.

Merits aren't like acitivity points where you earn them passively by just posting and being online the forum, its what really prevents account farmers from ranking up their accounts easily. Merits is something being rewarded when someone sends it to you, and that depends highly on your post quality some even look back at your post history before they even give you one so you might want to fovus more on improving your quality rather then expect on earning them each time you post.

Well, it's hard to change the perspective of each person on that case. If it's well-known, no doubt, it will be merited in a single minute.
Sometimes I really hate the times when I needed an opinion that will solve a serious problem in our local but ended up getting a lot of cons. They received a lot of merits even though they didn't understand the whole purpose of my thread.

I wanted to say it to my fellow members but I think they will easily be offended because it's a fact.

Merit is supposed to be awarded for quality and/or helpfulness of posts, however, I often feel as though it's an "agree button". Lot's of posts I've seen that are extremely opinionated often end up with more merit than those that attempt to simply inform without appealing to a side. Sites like Reddit with a user ranking system have the same problem. I don't really think there is any viable solution towards fixing this, but it's just a thought.

Is this what you're butthurt about?


Not gonna get merits with that attitude, that's for sure.


Case in point. 3-4 examples being mentioned doesn't mean there are only 3-4 "exceptions", it actually looks more like a "rule" rather than "exception": 4 out of top 6 merit earners (except theymos and your buddy o_e_l_e_o) are not native English speakers and there are many further down the list too, ~45 in the top 100. I'd give you a link but unfortunately you're not going to click it.

Yes enjoy correcting. Since you do that, you might try being in detail from your first answer though. Doesn't need to put hints and links and answering like you did. You answer ("correction") was inadequate.

Also about merit, you are referring to 3-4 exceptions. Meanwhile I'm reading bounty hunters answers in every forum post, from persons that have 100+ merit just because they were bounty hunting since 2017. Is this a just system? Why would people that don't offer anything useful have full member ranks? Just because they were lucky to have posted a hundred replies in 2017?

In the thread you are referring to, you provided incorrect information and I corrected you. You didn't read the link I provided and doubled down on your incorrect assumptions, so I corrected you again. You may want to reflect as to whose contribution is less useful.

That is just categorically not true. Several of the highest merited users of all time are not native English speakers, such as LoyceV (>3000 earned merit) and micgoossens (>2000 earned merit). There are users who have earned >100 merit not only not being a native English speaker, but not even earning a single merit in any of the English speaking boards. Look at abhiseshakana for example. 1272 earned merit, and he doesn't even post on the English boards.

I completely agree but do you question yourself perhaps? Do you ever wonder that you might not be contributing at all by answering whatever comes in your mind on any post you find? Because I didn't find your post by accident. Do you also understand that the only people that leveled to the rank of Full Member are native English speakers and the rest have absolutely zero chance getting merited?
Merit system created a closed circle in bitcointalk and it is actually a impossible acheivement for anyone not proficient in English.

I'm not saying they have to force themselves, being in the forum doesn't mean you only need to focus in one section, the longer you stay here the more you will find good boards that you might be interested in participating. There's nothing wrong to choose the a certain boars where merit is most spent as long as you participate in the discussion.

Though I don't have a problem ranking up but with the new system, I can feel the struggle of low ranks just to rank up.
It's just my personal suggestion coming from the mind of a businessman.

This quoted above is mostly the cause of the problem and not the popular opinion of, "they are not getting merited because of the board they post in". Any quality (decent) contributor can testify to receiving merits on any board they contribute to though some might be higher than others but still if your posts are outstanding (quality wise) you can still get rewarded irrespective of the boards.

The alternative/Bitcoin discussion board that many users think they won't get meirted if they contribute to the boards, I have recieved merit on numerous occasions from those boards. Everything just boils down to what's the quality of your posts. Take care of that first before you start worrying about boards not receiving enough merit.

I think this is the wrong advice to be giving.

We shouldn't be encouraging users to post in sections where they have nothing useful to contribute solely because those sections receive more merit. Boards such as Technical Discussion and Technical Support have a much higher merit to post ratio than Bitcoin or Altcoin Discussion, for example, but that's because they are less spammy. If a spammer posts in these boards, they definitely won't get merited just because there is more merit flowing in that board. More likely, their posts will be reported and deleted because there is less spam tolerated in these boards.

If we think some sections are going under merited, then the better solution is to appoint more sources who frequent these sections, rather than encourage the spammers to move elsewhere. Having said all that, on reviewing OP's post history, he is unlikely to earn any merits regardless of where he posts until he improves his posting behavior.

If you still want to gain Merits, I'm currently running a certain thread for all ranks, this might be a chance for you to get enough Merits.

MERIT GIVEAWAY HERE!

P.S. There are already countless of users including myself (as you can see a little bit more I will reach a new league again), that I've helped so far. Thank Me Later

I've checked some of your posts and advice for you to try posting in sections that are easier for others to read, no matter how good your posts are if no one reads them.
Also, many members rely on Merit sources and those sources do not exist in those sections ----> improve the level of your posts and try to learn more about Mining, Speculation, and some technical things.


1 Merit for asking

There's a statistic for the most boards where most merit is sent, then I guess you have to keep posting in that board if you are also interested with the topic. Sending merit is only based on the sender, and not all good posts are merited so you go with the stats if you want to rank up.

Please read these threads:
Promotion with merit system and new rank requirements. It's possible.
Inspirational stories from self-made promoted users
Read those stories, connect dots inside those stories and in between, then you will have better overview on how merit system works, and how you can get merits. Basically, changing your posting style, and posts' contents, then you will see merits come to you as rewards for your efforts and your contributions.

Helpful Posts = Merit
Constructive posts = Merit
Useless posts = Merit (for some newbies and stupids)

Advantage?? Hmmmm.. To prevent the spammers from ranking up.

Seems like you are active since the introduction of merits sytem but still didn't understand how it works?

You can get merits for the posts if someoe thing that it helped them.Merit needed for you to rank up.

By looking at your post history, I see that you've always been active during the past couple of months.
You have over 1000 posts and still haven't received any merit, that should tell you something...

You have not gotten any merits because your posts are generally very low quality.
Always the same pattern, just 2 lines of text in bad English and with very little substance.

Look, people can overlook the not so perfect English, but you're going to have to increase your post quality to get some merits from people.
If you're really unlucky, someone could easily go and report most of your posts, since they're really spammy.

if you want to learn anything about the forum related activity you need to always check in the meta section board.

Always keep concentrate on your post quality while your briefing and explaining your thoughts to others. You may consider this merit is like on Facebook. So do your creative explanation while you are in forum.

Hey mate, you are posting on the wrong board. This topic belongs to Meta section or maybe even the Beginners & Help.
How long have you been out? The merit system was introduced last year and most of the active members here are already familiar with it.

It is not based on activity.

Here is a short explanation:

You can find full information in this thread Merit & new rank requirements

---

Do you know how to move your topic to the proper board?

i was monitoring or studying the merit levels, i discovered it was not directly increasing according to the number of post,i really wished to know how the merit is awarded and the advantage.