Merit counts on "Top-merited recent topics"

Peacemaker1994

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Quote from: Wouter Mense on October 18, 2018, 06:44:11 AM

Going here: Top-merited recent topics shows the list of top merited recent topics.

Right now it only counts merit on the topic's opening post.

Should it not consider all posts in the topic? Seems to make more sense to me.

Otherwise maybe call it "Top merited recent topic starts" ? Grin

It's best you just leave making post about merit you will never be merited for that

If you where are really interested in the growth of the forum and your self you would do the right thing and possibly get reward for it

Wouter Mense

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DdmrDdmr

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Quote from: Wouter Mense on October 19, 2018, 02:37:50 AM

<…>As shown in the example I gave, it doesn't have to be anti-op like that. The OP could be a useful hook, just a small thing, a simple question, for creating an otherwise very interesting conversation<…>

Your right there I’d say. A rather well merited thread does not necessarily mean that the thread is all about the topic exposed in the thread title, but likely most will. In any case, well merited threads may well deem worth reading just by the sheer interest in how the conversation flow went on amongst the participants. Reading well merited threads is an alternative to last bumped thread, and could be interesting to have as an alternative innate forum feature. One can ultimately decide if the criteria is used or not at all.

Note: It’s interesting to see on the Dashboard how the lists of most merited threads changes when you apply the date filter, and how, whatever you do, Wall Observer is always at the top…

Note2: Added the number of meriters and merited per thread on the Dashboard.

Wouter Mense

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Quote from: DdmrDdmr on October 18, 2018, 09:22:44 AM

A couple of weeks ago there was a thread on Meta on the topic (see Sort posts by merit spent).

Seems like an interesting approach as well. Basically adding a column into the topic overview.

Quote from: bill gator on October 18, 2018, 08:46:07 AM

I have often seen a thread get posted where OP is completely out-of-line, incorrect, misleading, etc. and then the users that reply, call them out, provide proper information, etc. are given an extensive amount of merit. Under the suggestion you propose, it would appear as if OP was receiving the merits for their topic, when in reality those merits are effectively "anti-OP".

As shown in the example I gave, it doesn't have to be anti-op like that. The OP could be a useful hook, just a small thing, a simple question, for creating an otherwise very interesting conversation.

Quote from: YOSHIE on October 18, 2018, 10:31:13 AM

Heh, those are my posts. Funny reading them back. Not sure what exactly you are trying to say about it. Most of the time I just lurk around and only once in a blue moon I crawl out of the woodworks to post something. What you might call a lurkbie Tongue

Coyster

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on October 18, 2018, 08:21:40 AM

Sometimes the OP of a thread can write complete crap but a subsequent reply can earn a lot of merit--I don't have an example of that

@The pharmacist,this is a perfect example of your point..
The OP couldn't have written any crap worse than this..
@Adolfinwolf earned a lot of merits for putting him in his place
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46992139

YOSHIE

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No, Merit does not depend on new topics, but the thoughts, ideas, and answers that you apply are in accordance with the topic.
if you want to get services especially you understand the rules of the forum and provide something useful for forum members, I think you are doing it for sure you are like other members and worthy ..

Not like this kind of thing can fall apart ...? if this happens frequently.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on October 18, 2018, 08:21:40 AM

Anyway, in a case like that I don't think the thread ought to be listed as one of the top-merited ones, because it would be somewhat misleading.

Quote from: Wouter Mense on June 21, 2016, 07:17:20 AM

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Look closely:o

Quote from: Wouter Mense on June 21, 2016, 07:17:20 AM

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Quote from: Wouter Mense on November 28, 2016, 06:05:03 AM

Have been watching these charts once in a while ever since they were posted. Seems that the year to year BTC inflation is finally dipping below USD M2! So, necrobumping this:)

Quote from: Wouter Mense on May 07, 2015, 08:59:46 AM

Remade the chart. Data is USD prices from bitcoinaverage.com.

Chart is less accurate before 04-2011, since the prices are rounded to $0.01

DdmrDdmr

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There are lies, damned lies and statistics. MTwain

A couple of weeks ago there was a thread on Meta on the topic (see Sort posts by merit spent).

One way to search for the most merited threads is to use the Merit Dashboard. If you go to a tab called “Rankings”, the right hand side block labelled “Top Merited Thread Ranking” sorts all merited threads (aggregate of posts within) by received sMerits and ranks them. You can filter by a specific section/subsection, and/or specify a date range using the filter at the top of the screen to, for example, see the most merited threads in the last month in the Bitcoin Discussion board.

Additionally, if you click on the thread name (page_title column), a popup appears allowing you follow a link that says “Go to a post with the thread” which does just that. ~~It does not take you to the first OP within the thread, but that is easy to do by you once you are actually on the thread on Bitcointalk~~.It takes you to the OP within the thread.

It is true though, as said above, that threads swerve to and from in terms of content, so merited posts within the thread are often not precisely aligned completely with the thread’s OP.

bill gator

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I have often seen a thread get posted where OP is completely out-of-line, incorrect, misleading, etc. and then the users that reply, call them out, provide proper information, etc. are given an extensive amount of merit. Under the suggestion you propose, it would appear as if OP was receiving the merits for their topic, when in reality those merits are effectively "anti-OP". I don't know if I explained that properly, at all, but the couple of merits within this thread have gone to The Pharmacist, for explaining why your idea doesn't fit, and it wouldn't make sense to attribute those merits to your thread/post.

The Sceptical Chymist

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Quote from: Wouter Mense on October 18, 2018, 06:44:11 AM

Should it not consider all posts in the topic? Seems to make more sense to me.

Nah. If the OP gets a lot of merits, it's a good indication that the thread is worthwhile. Sometimes the OP of a thread can write complete crap but a subsequent reply can earn a lot of merit--I don't have an example of that, but I'm pretty sure I've seen it happen.

Anyway, in a case like that I don't think the thread ought to be listed as one of the top-merited ones, because it would be somewhat misleading.

Wouter Mense

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Ah yes, of course there's a way to do it with the available data dumps. The trick is to keep that list up to date though.

Full disclosure: I just wanted to abuse the efforts of merit-givers as another way to more easily find interesting things on here.

LoyceMobile

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LoyceV on the road. Or couch.

You can easily create such a list from the full merit data dump.
I can do it when I'm back at my desk.
Update: see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/most-merited-topics-sum-of-op-posts-updated-5053587

Wouter Mense

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Hmm I tend to approach it as "a conversation has a topic".

Or in a more forum-centric view, where a topic has an opening post and zero or more replies, which together form the conversation.

hilariousandco

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No. Posts in a topic are not the topic itself.

Wouter Mense

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Going here: Top-merited recent topics shows the list of top merited recent topics.

Right now it only counts merit on the topic's opening post.

Should it not consider all posts in the topic? Seems to make more sense to me.

Otherwise maybe call it "Top merited recent topic starts" ? Grin

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