Topic: Merit number indicator on showPost list ? (Read 290 times)

It would rather make things complicated, and who knows if there is merit circle jerk in local boards?

Personally, I do not consider it useful, it facilitates the work of campaign managers who are paid for doing this work, why do we help them?
Even if the suggestion is helpful, I do not expect it to be implemented soon so I suggest you write your "user-script" to solve this problem or hire someone to do it.

Also, if the turnout is sufficient, I suggest you post here ----> [Userscript] Report to moderator on post history.

That's cool, at least we all know the campaign you're participating in only accepted quality posters and most times reputed members also about the campaign manager accepting posts from local board I'm sure he based his judgement on, If the participates are reputed, active quality posters from their post in english then they'll reciprocate the same in those local boards because without even investigating i know he can't understand every local language his campaign participants post with. This is just a case of one campaign manager what about others?

That been said i still stand on my previous statement

I beg to differ, at least from the perspective of my local board.
 
From a campaign’s point of view, local boards, at least strong local boards, could well be an additional source for getting new leads towards campaigns. There is obviously the language barrier when it comes to supervising posts created on the local board, and the signature, being generally in English, will not adapt to the local board’s language, but even so, it seems conceptually like a potential pool that I would not discard.

Click-throughs to the banners, and per-country analysis ,would help somewhat to determine if the local boards are worthwhile or not (although they cannot distinguish if a person from a specific country reached the site after seeing the banner in a local board or on a general board).

The campaign I’m on currently counts posts on the local board, for which I am grateful, and I think is a well meditated change that took place some months ago. Of course, the posters on this specific campaign are rather well known, and there can be a certain trust that the person posting on a local board is not going to type some gibberish crap there.

In terms of merit on local boards, I stand by what I’ve often stated about my local board: There are not too many active posters there nowadays, but a select reduced group that do are pretty decent and way above average. That helps to keep the local board alive, and content generated, while not being overwhelming, does sum up to decent enough.

When meriting on my local board as described, two things concur:

- Merit does inevitably concentrate on a reduced set of forum members (the decent active posters).
- Due to the above, on tends to merits posts in less amounts that perhaps on the general boards, pulling the handbrake.

In summary, on my local boards it is not difficult to get merited (providing the merit sources that roam the board are around, otherwise it would be close to zilch) for decent content, and crap goes unmerited in general. The counterpart is that merits per post are low.
If I recall correctly, there is only one Full Member on my local board with 100% earned local board merits. The rest are all hybrids over both general and local boards.

Nevertheless, I can only speak for my local board really.

Well, it's not a bad suggestion. But, IMO if the purpose just to see post which was merited by others the campaign managers can use Merit Stats (for example) from the participants itself.

With this way I think the managers won't wasting time to see/read spamming or bounty report posts from participants.

While, for now all of the processes carried out by the forum are running well, with potential indicative posts.
By seeing the electability of members to get better,

among those considered most appropriate, the number indication is appropriate on the "show this last post" list.
so far the forum is as safe as in the year that passed.2019, although there are many comments by some beginners on off-topic. And spamer.

It all comes down to the campaign in question. When participants post in local boards it serves as a bonus to most campaign and that's why they don't count those posts unless the campaign is targeting audience form that local board. When it comes to most local board I don't think merit is truly been used as it was supposed to be used. most post you see get merit isn't actually worth that merit or that amount of merit it's getting. (Merit abuser Thread is what I use to back this accusations because most of then comes from local boards)

I would had agreed to the idea as this will also make merit abusers hunters job easy but again it'll lead to laziness of many bounty managers, counting such post (because it was merited) as a quality post without knowing that it was a shitpost hiding in disguise.

I believe it is not always about constructiveness when it comes to campaigns, but different campaigns from different areas of interest define their targeting areas to the managers (I'm just assuming. I don't know what discussions they have before starting the campaign), and the managers do exactly as the company that is running the campaigns demands for. And, since most of the websites/services or anything that runs a campaign is in English language, they mostly target English sections rather than Local boards because they know that the population of English boards is way higher than Local boards, and it wouldn't really do a lot of good for them since even if someone posts extra constructive posts in a Local board, it wouldn't make much of a difference if there isn't a very large number of audience to read it and then be interested about the signature they are wearing.

No, of course not. The point of my post was not to criticise managers because they don't accept local posts, don't get me wrong. If was merely a suggestion to those manager that don't accept local posts because I have seen some other managers do that.  

Well, we really can't blame the Managers for not being able to understand every language in the forum, knowledge are limited. And the fact that they excluded Local Boards from post counts, this really might be a good suggestion, but I still doubt whether they will take the hassle to check on every posts that is on the Local Boards.

Maybe they can just include a rule like Hhampuz has done to his every campaign. As long as they can understand the posts on Local Boards it can be counted to post counts... so its better to write in english even if you're on your Local section. But I really doubt the SMAS Managers will ever do that. They always exclude Local Boards from the post counts.

It a general campaign rule by many manager that posts in the local boards will not be counted even if it being merited on, but some other managers some time count posts in this section. Merit is not regarded by the campaign rule of not posting in the local boards.

The solution is to have a rule that could say 'Posts in local boards will not be counted unless merited'. Some campaign managers accept posts from local boards if they get merited which means that they have a certain quality even if the campaign manager might not necessarily understand the content of it.  

So OP this is a good suggestion from your side.

Interesting suggestion.  I see no reason not to have the merit count for a post when looking through post history.

And it's an interesting argument you make about campaign managers, and giving them a fast way to notice if the local community appreciated the post.  Not all campaign managers deny payments for posts made in local boards, while some deny payment for posts made in several English boards as well.  I think it has a lot to do with the service that's being advertised, and whether the topic fits.  

Also, it's about advertisement, and that means reaching eye balls.  Certainly some of the local boards have a lot of traffic, but many do not.  I would not want to be the campaign manger who has to defend his decision to include one local board while denying others.

Again, I see no reason not to implement your suggestion, but I don't think your justification is a valid enough reason.  

If this is implemented this will be only beneficial for campaign manager and will make them more lazy,so I don't want it to be implemented.

We only can see merit stats od last 120 days on this forum for full view we need to use Bpip,So I think better to stick with the current.

Merit number indication on " show last post of this person" list.
Is this possible, is this a good idea, is this necessary and useful?

I think it may come in handy as a utility for campaign managers.
Most of campaigns today, exclude posts in local boards. Understandable cause polyglottism is ultra rare.
But if a manager could spot, that local community finds a post merit worthy then maybe he could consider including it as pBTC2p?