Topic: Merit Overflow of ltcrstrbrt (Read 2002 times)

As it is not a financial-related post I think it should be unlocked as anyone may share opinion at anytime. But I think you think this topic should be closed and also as it is a too old topic I am locking this thread. If anyone need or I need it anytime then I may I unlock for any update or anyone is free from creating a new topic.

Don't you think that the topic can be closed? Your question today completely repeats the question in the post above. In addition, a special topic was opened for this user on the issue of his supposedly former accounts, but he is silent, probably realizing all the stupidity of what he said. It's not worth making a lot of noise for the sake of one newcomer who is unable to stand up for himself and prove what was said.

Sorry for the late bumping but could not stay away from posting/replying. I have two point base on your post/reply:
1. If those 3 account is yours and the account got by cheat then why you are not appealing on the forum to recover your account?
2. If you are the real owner then why you do not sign a  bitcoin message in which you are referring to the scammer who cheats with you?

If your account was stolen as you claim, then why don't you go through the account recovery process to have it recovered?
Recovering hacked/lost accounts

You will need at least access to an original email address that the account was registered to and if possible a signed message from an old address you used before the said hack or stealing.

This account has changed hands. My 3 accounts have been taken by my friend by cheating me. I want justice for this.

Ask those who are using my accounts to sign the address message. If they can sign the address message, then I will never come to this forum again.

He does seem to have any posted Bitcoin address in the different boards, but I do see an Ethereum address posted back in 2017 for a bounty campaign


Maybe the person could try using a message from the address to prove that it didn't change hands.

I have no issues if they are alt. If they abused or bought merit, they got neutral for that. But, scroll up a little bit and check my last post. The account was up for sale on the internet and the current owner bought that account. I just find it interesting so here I am. Now it's up to the community how they should judge those accounts.

I did not check the full thread yet. But, I guess I read that maybe one of them was trying to get a loan from DarkStar. All of those accounts earned very little amount of merits. The rest of them are air-dropped merits. So, if any lenders may want to consider the loan to them make you know they are probably sold accounts and be aware of this.

Moreover, The account is still up for sale on the Internet.

Could be alt accounts but could also be he bought merits. There are lots of merit sellers apparently.  Not so sure why this topic was bumped 5 months later honestly. Prob needs to be locked @shasan

Idk if it was better to bump this or to make a new thread since it wasn't proven they are alts, just speculation.

According to the archived pages on web.archive.org, his profile data (posts, activity...) match perfectly. This cannot be a coincidence.


https://web.archive.org/web/20221127051917/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=236814


Here is the archived version.

Interestingly I was reading an article that someone is selling Cracked Bitcoin forum passwords on the darknet; https://www.vice.com/en/article/nz74az/bitcointalk-forum-hack-cracked-passwords-for-sale. Not sure from where I was redirected to this website. But, It seems like a bunch of Bitcointalk account is up for sale.


This account was up for sale on the exact date it woke up.
The seller sold this account without removing or updating the selling thread. Clicking on Merit and Trust from the sell thread will redirect you to this account. Can someone verify before the seller remove the thread?

https://www.playerup.com/threads/bitcoin-talk-hero-accounts.5709129/

Did you read every reply other people gave?
I have already apologized to all and explained it to everyone. If you don't believe the story, then that's your problem. Topic is locked because I am not here to entertain anyone anymore. What I wanted to say is all on that topic. Feel free to read everything. After constantly replying to everyone on that topic for 2 days, I am tired. No more from my side. Now say whatever you want.

After your excellent post it leaves just tjtonmoy to come back here and explain what is really going on otherwise some of us will take various things for granted and come to our own conclusions. After all, I am sure he would want to say something after his apology has been locked after he was called out by some people.

So, did anybody actually believe the story he gave?

Good job @lovesmayfamilis tjtonmoy showed overconfidence even after I showed enough evidence that he didn't have an alt.  The two accounts are managed by completely different owners. And he strongly objected to my post.  I am now drawing his attention to reply to your post here on how to connect their wallets.

He has exchanged merit on his two accounts, joined the pumpkin contest without pumpkin and now their wallets are fully connected.  Still he will come and say it is not my alt lol

Why did everyone compare fingers but not pay attention to the fact that the nicknames of both accounts are almost identical?



But after checking wallet transactions, it becomes clearer that there are no coincidences or accidents at the same time, as @Stalker22 correctly noted.

https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=0x8E456599dB2429cFf0AC8f9d5b5aA29E7C921642

https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=0x166066A6dE184ca4C7ac21EfB689869915EC1C73

https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=0x8B2200688C89Bb67a988142c05d31A09970F04E2


https://bscscan.com/address/0x419fc19275c0986fcdde00516036b2a601ca0f64





@tjtonmoy, why didn't you participate with all your alternate accounts? Why were they so modest? Did you run out of potatoes? Or pumpkins?
Surprises something else, after which you want to go and wash, how greedy people can be.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5416347

Yes Seriously and it is only truth

I don't want to match fingers it's auto matching Because both are same.  bitcoin symbol is same and Will remain the same throughout life.  But each person's style of handing will be different.  As everyone's handwriting style is different.
I am as a general forum user like you, I can't ask for anyone's personal documents for his/m verification purpose. On the other hand, it is possible to kyc multiple accounts by one person using the documents of his parents or siblings.
All the proofs I have given are true and reasonable. And is it also true that both account owners are the same.  But as I said earlier there is no harm in having multiple accounts on this forum as long as you don't use it for any bad purpose. But the purpose of my posting here is that you have abused merit.

Bro, you are free to do your investigation. If you find something, let me know.
As I said already, I had little knowledge about merits back then. So it was a mistake from my side and I do accept it. I am not denying that I did not make any mistake. But it was in the past. Rather than that, if you find something suspicious about my account right now, you are free to point that out. I would like to know too my mistakes so that I can improve on that.
And you are only focusing on me while there are a lot of people still doing it.
Just because they are on higher rank, no one talks about it.
I will not mention anyone here. Not here to spread hate to anyone.

I don't know man, those two bitcoin logos are practically identical, it is like they were created by the same person or something. I mean, I have looked through every submission in this contest and I have not seen a single one with that style. It is intriguing that you chose to reward this one, and only this one, with multiple merits, multiple times. Can you explain why that is? Because onions and potatoes taste good together? 


Well, you have quite a few similarities: you are both from Bangladesh, you are both students, you have the same style of carving vegetables, and there is an suspicious exchange of merits... It is quite the coincidence, wouldn't you say? And as we all know, there is no such thing as coincidence. Are there any other connections between you and that user?

Really man? Seriously? Now you want to match those fingers? Also, aren't all bitcoin logos are the same? Do you want to verify KYC?
Also, about the fact of not finding the pumpkin. Have you seen others submit on there? What about them? Don't tell me you think that those accounts are also mine!
Find a legit proof man, then come to me. Otherwise, don't waste my time. I have had enough of this bullshit. I also have something regarding your account. Want me to share that too?

Ok ok You are a very innocent user who doesn't know how Merit works. So let's skip the merit transcation topic.

Meanwhile both were unable to find the pumpkin so you cut the onion and Tanvi50_ cut what looks like a potato. A very nice match between the two but is is not a big problem. I admire both of yours intelligence and craftsmanship.

But here both the bitcoin symbols look exactly the same, there is no way to believe that it is a 2 hand gesture. And the fingers of the two holding hands look exactly the same. How would you explain it mr/s tjtonmoy?

you can check now! I haven't done such thing ever since! someone already told me what it means and I stopped giving away merits that way! you can check my recent activity and then you can say whatever you want...

I'm not saying it's related to ltcrstrbrt. I have shared another case of merit abusing here.  Because opening a separate topic on this one topic would be a kind of rubbish.  Because there are already multiple topics related to merit abusing

who is legendary member? Here I have mentioned the incident in a full member and a member merit transaction.  Where did the legendary member come from?

lol you earned 142 merit in a short time where it is very difficult to do But you say you don't know how merit works   it is really funny. However, whatever the excuse is, it is clear that you have misused the merit. There's nothing wrong with having multiple accounts on forums as long as you don't use them for anything bad. You must distribute Merit because for every 2 Merit you are given 1 Smerit. But it is not right to abusing merit

You have got my attention! Here's the explanation!
I got some merits first doing a post on some bitcoin official/unofficial logo. maybe 2/7 still don't remember which was a long time ago!
then comes the bitcoin pizza baking contest....
and the last one was pumpkin carving contest! I was getting a good amount of merits! remember this - till that point, I didn't know how merit works.. haven't read any post on merit. I thought it was "like" as post liking! didn't know you need to follow so much rules to send and receive merits.
So the participant Tanvi50_ did a carving on some fruit inspired by me... so I send him merits. Back then I didn't know... so if that's punishable then you can continue!

1. It doesn't have any relation with ltcrstrbrt
2. Having multiple accounts in this forum are completely fine as long as you're not use it for bad thing or avoid ban evasion.
3. Abusing merit without any bad activities doesn't deserve to get negative feedback.

So what we need to discuss here?

He's already legendary member which is the highest rank in this forum, he only get 32 merits, while the other guy already have 12K merits and his rank is still legendary. There's no such rank increase here.

Here is the case of merit abusing maybe with multi account--

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* Tanvi50_ send merit to 3 profile only 1 merit to cygan and 1 merit to montreal1 and another 29 merits to tjtonmoy in 8 times--------on the other hand--
* tjtonmoy send 28 merits to 9 different  profile and 7 merits maximum to @yahoo62278 but s/he send 22 merits to Tanvi50_ in 5 times.

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ops nice merit abusing   and a nice strategy to quickly increase the rank of  2 accounts.

Back in the day of bitcointalkaccount pricer, I remember accounts were sold in this fashion so not surprising that the trend has continued in the bid to mask the change of hands.

For this to have happened, it means other accounts that's have done this and joined campaigns successfully and this could be some continuation of the enrollment class.

With most signatures having a requirement of having received a minimum of 5 merits in the last 120 days,this would have been their solution in trying to beat this & wanting to paint a picture they have the good posts on the forum   

Starting many threads in the past, I know very well what " reserved posts" mean. ( getting over your sarcasm )

"because of your blatant abuse of the merit system" - to abuse the merit system and get accused of it you should make two things, using multiple accounts to increase your rank or whatever and paying or getting payed for these merits for the same reasons. OK, "So really, what's the issue here? "

That's right, I received few neutral tags from some users... because :

1. I woke up in 2022 ( and also in 2020 nevermind )
2. I received merits for old posts ( should we consider an abuse? )
3. Those users were inactive also for a long period of time
4. I applied for a signature campaign ( chronological ) and
5. I searched for a loan  of course with no collateral asking two users about terms and chance to apply for one ( and to get accepted)
6. I made a post on Goodbye world thread ( started by Lauda)


What I got? some neutrals tags, and:

offences like : " ltcrstrbrt is trying to take a loan which might be scammed"
"If can gain a loan then there is no chance of repayment. So, we (the community) should be aware of being scammed by ltcrstrbrt. "
"there's a chance they will scam which is high risk of losing money" (who are they?! )
"There is a possibility that the account was sold with the private key"
"Either the accounts that gave you merits are controlled by you (alt accounts) or you acquired the merits through some sort of purchase"
"Now you sound like a (potential) scammer, merit abuser and troll all in one lmao"
"Well, Im done with talking to a troll now Tongue"


What does that mean? Ltcrstrbrt is a scammer, account is hacked, he is a troll, he is mentally ill because he writes nonsenses, he is a liar, he is an impostor, he is a merit abuser, avoid to get in touch with him because he is dangerous ...



 And over again: "So really, what's the issue here?"

Is not about of few neutral tags ( in generally I didn't run for any trusts  even if I made enough transaction here with other users ), but these users correlated their tags with these accusations ( how to tag him if we don't accuse him"

I never insulted other members here, and never made false accusations or caused any prejudice over/to someone.

And what I got?

These accusations are more than exaggerated!

I see you conveniently left out the second part of the rule exclusion. Allow me to be a hero and fill in the missing information for you: "excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter." Sure, now you are going to tell us you had no idea what "reserved posts" meant, right? It's not like it's a common phrase or anything.

As for the rest of your rant, you received a couple of neutral tags from some DT members because of your blatant abuse of the merit system. That is not exactly an inappropriate use of the trust system. So really, what's the issue here?

Are you able to explain from your side in full detail about why you received merits from speeder, bluedeep and Averim under what appear to be dubious circumstances? If this is all a misunderstanding of events and facts by the OP and those (including myself) that are likely to allege merit abuse, what would you say to try to convince us that we have it wrong?

If this is the meaning of "B.U.M.P" posts, I have nothing to say.
I had a different understanding of what a "bump" post means.

Thanks for letting me know. But probably you have not seen all the information on the terms. Creating multiple posts on the same row is not allowed but reserve and bump topics are not included in these terms. Please see the text which is red-marked, thank you once again.

My mistake even I used the " quote" function! I'll take in consideration.
And you too.  (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lending-service-started-usdtbtcltcethdogeetc-5030169)

Why you are creating multiple posts on the same row? You should create only a single post on each row. If you need to add later then you should edit your previous post. I think you should be aware of the rules of the forum. Creating multiple posts on the same row is a policy violation of the forum. Please see the rule quoted below.

Interesting point of view... everyone has the right to free speech!!
But this free speech does not mean the right to offense other users!

Calling someone "a liar" without any evidence, represents an offense... What do you think Decodx?

From what I know, offenses are not accepted/allowed on this forum.

I have never insulted anyone on this forum and I do not accept that others to drop on me with offenses!

"Those merits were not earned"- earned .... - define

We all know that the actual ranking/merit system is not perfect. I knew that right after I've translated the New Merit System Announcement made by Theymos, ( in the Romanian Section). Is not perfect of course but it helps. Of course it's better than the previous one!

Dropping with offences on me and get merited by others means "earned merit" ? And there are many examples how users got merited for any posts which with no value.

The merit system should reward those users that create valuable posts, helping others, helping the crypto ecosystem, etc, and hence the forum.

Imagine that I get accepted in one signature campaign, sending some merits to OP. Earned merits of course...

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That's right. Therefore, I sent you a PM, detailing the absence/break from this forum starting with 2018. Lauda left the forum in 2020 ( in that time I've missed from here even occasionally I was logged (lack of time). Why a PM? because of sensitive/personal information.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

Ah, that provides the motivation for posts like this, which seem very much out of place for a member who has presumably been here since 2014--even longer than I've been a member:

You would think someone who's been part of the community, even with an extended break, would know Lauda's been gone for over two years and wouldn't have just discovered that fact.  Has anyone checked to see if there was a significant change in posting habits in the years ltcrstrbrt's been here?  I may take a look for myself in a while, but if someone beats me to it, please alert me.  I have a suspicion that I'm not going to act on unless or until there's evidence.

For now I have given neutral tags to all four members that have been alleged to have participated in merit abuse (as mentioned in the OP). I have also excluded them from my trust. I can revise the tags in future if any further information becomes available but these will have to suffice for now:

~ltcrstrbrt
~speeder
~bluedeep
~Averim

He is not a campaigner yet, but he is desperately trying to get into one. He had applied to three sig. campaigns since he woke up from a long time of inactivity.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61516234
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61545133
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61550538

Nothing wrong with that I guess, except that he lied about his "merit earned in the last 120 days". Those merits were not earned. 

You've got that right. 

I made a comment about ltcrstrbrt weighing in on the "Goodbye world" thread created by Lauda over two years ago, which ltcrstrbrt seems to have completely missed for some reason based on what he wrote.  Shortly thereafter he sent me a PM with a very long explanation, which I admit I didn't fully read.  Not sure why he did that, but I have a feeling something's up with that account.  In any case, he's not in a sig campaign or bounty (as of this writing), so I don't know what his motivations are.

Who are you talking about, the OP of this thread (Shasan) or ltcrstrbrt.  I'm assuming the latter.

I just read the whole conversation on this thread and i just want to say am really surprised how the op was able to survive all this strikes and attacks given to him by other members and i just admire the confidence in all his replies.  This is something you don't see that much in the forum after been accused of fraudulent act, although am a new member in the forum but reading a nice serious conversation helps alot in terms of boosting my confidence in the forum.

I laughed out loud after reading this reply. Apart from being able to sign a message, this reply is able to convince anyone that the person behind this account is obviously an old user of the forum with much experience about the happenings in this forum.

He sounded so confident and convincing in his reply. This is a type of offence that could lead to red tagging of lower-ranked accounts, but he gave a resounding crooked reply 
This has further confirmed that there are no rigid rules in this forum. Just a matter of case by case. This is the best freedom forum I have seen

What is questionable here is that all those accounts suddenly getting activated then merits being distributed and then you come and ask for a loan with zero activity. Those accounts can be of your friends, family or may be your ALTs but what made them give merits on an old topic is another big question here.

That I've checked me too..

Security/Moderator Log
9/14/2020 10:12:08 AM   woke up
12/22/2022 8:43:43 PM   password reset via email
12/22/2022 8:44:05 PM   woke up

If it is questionable then the site bpip.org is questionable as I have posted evidence from bpip.org.
 See the below images it is from bitcointalk.org if you still think it is questionable then the forum is questionable as this evidence is from the forum itself.

There is nothing questionable about that information since the information is verifiable.


https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

You forgot also as account farmer.

Story told is unbelievable no one will buy it.

From what I know I was logged occasionally  ( woke up: 12/22/2022 8:43:43 PM - this information is questionable ) ..
Trying to find if I miss something.

You woke up: 12/22/2022 8:43:43 PM
password reset via email: 12/22/2022 8:43:43


speeder:
woke up: 12/26/2022 7:43:16 PM
Last Post: January 29, 2019 though in 2019 only 2 posts

bluedeep
12/27/2022 9:37:27 AM
password changed: 12/29/2022 9:09:15
Last posts: December 20, 2018


Averim
woke up: 12/26/2022 11:52:20 PM
Last Post: May 02, 2020

All those accounts who gave you merit woke up within less than 14 hours.

"coming back on the forum at the same time" I think you're wrong, just I think.. do you have a log file? what do you mean by " at the same time"? same day? same week? same month ?

As I've said I can ask ( don't confuse with begging) and I can offer merits to anybody but especially to people who I know personally ( It's a subjective behavior, I must admit that ) so do you have a problem with that? If you have a problem with that, the answer is not up to me, ask Theymos or Cyrus, they can give you the right answer.

What a coincidence that some inactive users sent to me some merits. Of course they are inactive and some of them will remain inactive on this forum because of family, jobs,  or for other reasons, is up to them if they want to spend some time here or not. but this fact does not stop them to entering and sharing some merits. I just look back when I used to spend a lot of time here.. look at you, you have this time, good for you.

Can you post the PM when I asked you for a loan? I asked two things, how many and the time to be returned. I miss something?  and your answer was $0 and 0 days. Anyway, at least you were nice and answered  ( if it was me I wouldn't even read it )..

Playing with words like " scam, troll, abuser, hacked " it is at least exaggerated.

What's happening here guys? when I left were a lot of nice people and a bunch of scammers and when I came back I found a  bunch of hatters and PROBABLY a bunch of scammers (it is not a generalization). Honest people are not included of course!

It is not a problem and anyone can make transactions with anyone's address but your account is in question and arising more questions from time to time starting with asking non-collateral loan. And till now running using the same wallet. How co-incident it is that you and all of your relatives/friends coming back on the forum at the same time.

Sorry dude, but you are starting to talk non-sense which makes you sound more suspicious.
Addresses are not related just because they are in the blockchain, these are addresses which have interacted to yours at the same time seem to belong to those accounts that suddenly woke up to merit you.

So what, just because satoshi's addresses are in the blockchain and mine are also there it means we are related? Non-sense.  

The more you talk, more you incriminate yourself.

It is certainly possible. That's why it is important to consider all available information, examine the situation from various perspectives in order to make an informed decision and come to a conclusion.

Here's another piece of information that proves the accounts are related, and in my opinion, most likely alt accounts:

TX1:
From: 0x0984274936f54ab6d34b6e4c1a8aaa92416e5cfe (ltcrstrbrt)
To: 0x4320379558e74800b37114848e7905695c33624a (bluedeep)

TX2:
From: 0x0984274936f54ab6d34b6e4c1a8aaa92416e5cfe (ltcrstrbrt)
To: 0x4320379558e74800b37114848e7905695c33624a (bluedeep)

TX3:
From: 0x4320379558e74800b37114848e7905695c33624a (bluedeep)
To: 0x0984274936f54ab6d34b6e4c1a8aaa92416e5cfe (ltcrstrbrt)

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Yes, I did read the whole thread. That's why I see you're having a hard time and reluctant to give concrete answers.

I was logged occasionally ( with 1 year of pause ) After 2018, my life,  changed a little bit good and bad things , moved in rural area, tried to live much healthier and more natural way.

That decision was a good one even if I lost somehow the contact with this forum..( limited time), and many more..

For the record, I would like to comment that receiving merits in a short period of time from other several accounts itself it is not suspicious.
I don't think any of us would suspect of a member of this forum with a proven record and reputation if he/she one day received a couple of dozens of merits, regardless those merits were granted to relatively new or very old posts.

It means nothing, because in the end, anyone with several accounts could do that with the objective to try to taint someone's reputation as merit buyer.

The suspicious part is the fact ltcrstrbrt woke up from a long period of inactivity recently and so did the accounts that sent the merits, added to the fact of the loan request.

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He is likely implying you did not create this account and you actual legitimate account is one with a lower rank, being that latter one your "main account".
He is asking you why you did not ask for the loan with the lower rank account.

Because it's a bit hard to trust  someone was absent so long time? Well right now I see only few members  who was active in the past.. let's say  you are from 2018 and you offer a lending service and I came to ask for a loan... ( posting a request) ... you won't even read it! why? because you don't know me? ( uhh who's this guy?!!) you have not seen here and vice versa.

Also I have uhh, my pride of course!

As I said, I was a lucky member.... you'll never see it again a bounty campaign from where you are rewarded with almost 35 BTC ?!! ( That's happened with Iconomi ICO) and I don't want to list others  .... And now searching for a loan?!! 


Just imagine... you had hundreds of BTC and many other tokens... and you ( after years) anyway comes here searching for a loan ? whatever



"why didn't you ask for a loan with your main account?"

PS:
Did you read the discussion thread? or this discussion is just an opportunity for you to complete your weekly posts ? come on!

      Happy New Year to everyone !!

I'm not asking you how many BitcoinTalk users do you know personally. I'm asking if you find it OK to merit yourself from an alt account in order to artificially boost your reputation after two years of inactivity on the forum, while also asking (searching) for a no-collateral loan? Don't you think this behavior is suspicious and that members of the community have every right to be concerned about it? If your intentions are honest, why didn't you ask for a loan with your main account?

This place has changed since the merit system introduced and the Default trust system changed. You are talking about the time when scam busting was not a profession, reporting spammers was not a profession. Everyone had respects for others. It's old now. Learn to live with the changed new environment.

I don't know if they are alt of one person but he already explained it.

I disagree, I think some of you are overlooking everything all the time. Maybe your heart is in the right place but it does not make sense to underestimate OGs all the time whenever you get a chance. The forum will be a better place when members will have respect for each others.

Just to be clear, I am not defending ltcrstrbrt but overall lately members are doing things that are not good for the forum environment. It will only spread hates and jealousy to each others.

It's language barer, OP and some others has taken it that you are asking for it.

searching and asking ( two different world)

I'm not asking you how many BitcoinTalk users do you know personally.

Managing a bounty campaign isn't an easy task as you believe. The managers got to work day and night to pick the best posters for their campaign from tons of applicants. They do bring value by helping promote a new project which in turn also brings growth to the activity/engagement in the forum and also the users are forced to make quality posts to be accepted. It helps the forum in many ways.

Since, managers are the ones holding the funds(most of the times) for the campaigns they are running (for payouts), this process does require a lot of trust. And if they dont hold the funds themselves, they put their own reputation at risk if the owners decide to change their minds later.

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Well, Im done with talking to a troll now

By your own admission, that's asking for a loan. Stop twisting and turning words around.


That still doesn't answer the question. What is your connection with the user accounts bluedeep, speeder and Averim?
Are they your alt accounts? Did you ask them to merit your account? Did you pay them for it?

 Another "suspicious" activity:

What's the point of giving merits to a Signature Manager after accepting someone in their campaigns ? Only because someone manage a bounty campaign can get tons of merit points? Is it that valuable for this forum? it can make that user more trustworthy? No! But that's a human behavior! and it doesn't affect me with nothing!! It's a free world and free forum ( Thanks Theymos and... for this)
""I make you a favor you return me the favor "" and vice versa.

I'm not saying that here, especialy here, does not exist scammers! And I'm not talking about cryptoworld !!  I lost more then 100k usdt  in 2021 in one scam generated by mechbeth arena  via BSC chain...  and even to this day I have not recovered my money.. But making accusations based on ""who gave it to who "" it doesn't make any sense.

When you make accusation you should have some proofs  and " I thing that.." is not a proof.

Imo, Its not out of thin air and no coincidence that all those accounts mentioned by OP are connected.

Lol, both the sentences have the same meaning, isnt it?. Indirectly, you did ask for a loan but let the amount be decided by the lender.

Here, your way of presenting yourself makes it look like a potential scam attempt. Let me tell you, even I have an active non-collateral loan from @shasan and its not a crime ;P

Now you sound like a (potential) scammer, merit abuser and troll all in one lmao..

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If the user tried joining in a camp. (with merit abuse) managed by @yahoo, he would've gotten a red mark straight away by now.

this doesn't have to mean anything. there is nothing significant at this address except useless shit tokens. the last transaction was a year ago, and then all Ethereum was withdrawn, the only thing worth there. very possible right before the sale.
scammers and account resellers know about this type of check and there is no reason to give a private key from some useless bounty address, just as they give access to the email address to which the account is registered.
I wouldn't trust this account for a more serious trade, especially not after dubious merit transactions.

First of all, You should not make false accusations based on thin air, secondly I didn't asked you for a loan! I asked how many can you lend and for what time!!! There was a short PM ( I'll not post here ).. Trying to be so aggressive doesn't make you better, don't you? I see that you are quite new on BitcoinTalk ( from 2018) wondering where have you been when this forum needed you? When this forum needed to grow up... It doesn't matter!

Everyone has good and bad periods of time...I was lucky when in the 2015-2017 and unlucky starting  from 2019 until now...but thats about my personal life!!
Searching for a loan  among community members starting to be a crime?

BTW, you asked me how I got these merits ...contacts etc... bare in mind that in 2016 (ie.) in my town ( 40k res) where around 25 BitcoinTalk users and more than 40 miners ... Also 3 Icos started from my town... people are talking each others they meeting etc... I'm not living in the jungle...

The point is that you woke up several years ago and all the 3 users also came here several years later. Changed the email and/or password and then sent you merits and went away once again. Do you not think there is obviously something misuse??? There is no one who could find out your valuable posts and these 3 users came and found your posts valuable and sent merit?? Or you have asked them to send merit. If it is the point then how are you contacted? You sent a message via the forum and they saw the message then came back on the forum and merited your post/posts??

More important thing is that trying to show more merit to receive a loan. Aked a loan via private message, I don't know how many messages were sent. I can confirm that I have received the loan request via private message. And these posts were created mainly for making aware of the activity to lender/campaign manager.

I will quote @theymos here:


So I think unless with these a Merit source it is difficult for them to continue to get more free merits and therefore no one will hire them, which means that they are forced to create high-quality posts.

Therefore, it is better to put a neutral trust to remind the possibility that these accounts are alts and to take this topic as a reference if any additional evidence is found, and then a negative trust can be given.

everyone can ask for merits ( sending and giving between users, that's the point of merit/smerit system ).. there are many users sending merits to each others even that posts doesn't deserve anything... That's a weakness of it. But that's not the question here... I can receive merits from unknown users and also from relatives/friends etc .. So where is the problem? As I've posted few years ago ( her: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28873887 ) about this system. Only selling and buying merits  is prohibited. Guys, do you have other points of view?

There is a possibility that the account was sold with the private key. I have seen such offers in Telegram groups and on fiverr.

The facts still stand, the user in question recently woke up (after two years of inactivity) and applied for a loan and a sig campaign, and at the same time received merits from the accounts with a suspicious history and also long inactivity. This raises suspicions of merit abuse and potential loan scams.


@ltcrstrbrt, it seems to me that there are only two possible explanations for the merits you received on your account. Either the accounts that gave you merits are controlled by you (alt accounts) or you acquired the merits through some sort of purchase. Is there any other explanation that I'm not considering?

Verified https://etherscan.io/verifySig/13131
You were not able to verify for three reasons.
1. S/he not added 0x at the beginning of the signature code
2. Used breakdown on the message while copy paste
3. Used breakdown on the signature while copy paste

It is verified too. That means this account has not changed ownership. But what about merit abuse??? Would you like to say anything about merit abuse?

another one:

  "address": "0x0984274936f54ab6d34b6e4c1a8aaa92416e5cfe",
  "msg": "0x496d204c7463727374726272742066726f6d20426974636f696e74616c6b20616e6420496d206 96e2066756c6c20636f6e74726f6c20206f662074686973206163636f756e74",
  "sig": "56dba2e191be4e3b0b823a6b89b060463401c63ba565873f1110761e886fa8f550cdb181e6bf308 d1a645a39d474f30f8e48aeb9254c16f32d4e1c7c2b7d44e51b",
  "version": "3",
  "signer": "MEW"


When you verify a MEW signed msg via Etherscan you should add "0x" before entering signature hash into the field.

https://etherscan.io/verifySig/13131

I can't verify using etherscan, is anyone else is able to do it?!
Anyway even if you prove the ownership of your account, your acts are still questionable regarding merit overflow (i.e. giving fake merits to self without any positive contribution in the forum just for getting accepted into a sig. campaign) and not acceptable.

  "address": "0x0984274936f54ab6d34b6e4c1a8aaa92416e5cfe",
  "msg":
  "0x4c746372737472627274206973206d7920426974636f696e54616b206163636f756e7420616e6 4204927276d20696e2066756c6c20636f6e74726f6c206f662069742e",
  "sig": "a933df93b754b9e1f94395540dc775d1fc9c60ea64e9f5fc6cb9f9d361baa7cc3a499a2a6f49d2f 0e3aa4cb5c85f5bea174e3cffe27844c80f7fc8456c859a121c",
  "version": "3",
  "signer": "MEW"

Said by a user that woke up just to apply for a loan and received merits at the same time from same account that recently woke up.

Clearly your account is compromised either sold to you or just hacked. Proving ownership to this account still shady due to the recent behavior towards merit abuse and potential loan scam. There’s a chance that the account is sold with private key so dealing with this user is extremely dangerous.

I agree with this. They also tried asking me for a loan and kept trying to convince me that they are the original owner of the account.

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You've posted the ETH address 0x0984274936F54ab6D34B6E4c1A8aAA92416e5cfe quite a few times in the past. At the very least, can you sign a message from it to show that your account hasn't been hacked? There's also quite a few other addresses that would work too.

All of the 4 accounts never make post before 29 December 2022 to 2020 which is the gap is really far, woke up from long period activity, all of them are Romanian, giving sMerit after a long period inactivity, how can those coincidence make sense if it's come from 4 different peoples?

I'm going to give a red tag because there's a chance they will scam which is high risk of losing money, gladly @OP didn't give him no collateral loans and warn to the other users.

I would like to add a couple of interesting facts about this accusation, the accounts themselves performed these merit transactions almost at the day and time, also they seemed to try to cover their tracks by giving merits to reputable and well known members of this community. The only merited user which appears in the three merit histories is ltcrstrbrt and GazetaBitcoin appearing in two of them.

In my personal opinion, the fact these accounts woke up/changed credentials to merit this way some post this antique is fairly suspicious, for now I will only step aside and wait for further evidence and statements from people who are better getting such evidence.

Good catch Shasan.

https://ninjastic.space/user/id/214323?merits

Just relax and stay calm. It's so easy to make false accusations nowadays.

Reserve

I am posting here as there is a chance of losing funds from a lender. I think ltcrstrbrt gained merit in an unethical way and now ltcrstrbrt is trying to take a loan which might be scammed.


bluedeep gave 14 merits to a post which has been posted about 3 years ago. And bluedeep was inactive in 2018 and just came on the forum to provide merit to ltcrstrbrt. bluedeep Not only woke up but also email changed to give merit. They Might be alt accounts too.

speeder gave 16 merit to ltcrstrbrt in the post which has been created about more than 3 years ago. speeder is a negatively trusted user and the trust is for accounts sold/hacked. This account is also changed email and become active for only to give merit to ltcrstrbrt.

Averim gave 2 merits to a post which has been created about 3 years ago. This user also wakes up from a long time of inactivity to give the merit.

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I think all the account is operated by the same person and have done merit abuse to take the loan and/or take part on a signature. If can gain a loan then there is no chance of repayment. So, we (the community) should be aware of being scammed by ltcrstrbrt.