Topic: Merit Source application. (Read 289 times)
I’ve seen a number of people apply to be a Merit Source who are probably up to the job. The OP is one of them imo. I’ve been in the same sig campaign as him for a long time now & have been aware of him being a good poster for some time.
It might be better giving a few mods or Globals the ability to designate new sources, or maybe even putting users to a vote once they've requested to be made a source.
I would agree with that. I didn't realize merit source applications were such a low priority. Does Theymos think we don't need more, or is he just being silent about it?Everything is seemingly a low priority right now or gets put on the backburner. Nobody knows what theymos thinks most of the time because he rarely addresses things and as such we never know where he stands and don't know whether he agrees with something or is fundamentally against it. I'm sure he's aware that sources will need to be added to meet demand, but if he doesn't have time for most of the other things that need doing then he likely won't for this either (and in the grand scheme of things it probably is low priority but that doesn't mean it shouldn't get done). That's why I think powers and processes need to be delegated to those who can be trusted to use them wisely or efficiently. If theymos and cyrus are the only two people who can restore accounts, add merit sources, add mods, check IPs for farming and ban evasion (+ other things) and none of them are getting done at all then that's something that needs to be addressed otherwise the ship is just going to crumble and continue to sink.
Was that a while ago? Hilariousandco sounds like he's saying that new merit source applications are being put on the back burner. I've seen some merit source application threads that keep getting bumped, but I don't know if those applicants were ever accepted. I don't remember Theymos saying there would be hundreds, but I'll take your word for it.
There probably should be at least 250 or so, because right now it's taking forever for members to rank up and I'm not sure that's entirely due to most posts being garbage. There are Hero members who consistently make great posts, and getting to 1000 merits from 500 is one hell of a barrier.
Yeah, I guess so. It was towards the end of June. I just assumed that theymos didn't think some of the applicants right now were fit for the role of a merit source. All of my interactions with theymos have been pretty quick, and received a reply within 24 hours. Even, when I messaged him a few years ago. So, he's definitely seen the applications. There probably should be at least 250 or so, because right now it's taking forever for members to rank up and I'm not sure that's entirely due to most posts being garbage. There are Hero members who consistently make great posts, and getting to 1000 merits from 500 is one hell of a barrier.
Hmm, I had a quick look, and maybe it wasn't theymos who said it. But, I'm sure I recall him saying so. I could be wrong. I agree though. More merit sources are needed.
He has stated before that there will likely be hundreds. He probably knows that more merit sources are needed, but its finding users that are suitable for the role I guess. Not many users are applying either. I don't think they are "low" priority; like I said I received a reply very quickly from theymos, and was added as a merit source within 24 hours if my memory serves me correctly.
Was that a while ago? Hilariousandco sounds like he's saying that new merit source applications are being put on the back burner. I've seen some merit source application threads that keep getting bumped, but I don't know if those applicants were ever accepted. I don't remember Theymos saying there would be hundreds, but I'll take your word for it. There probably should be at least 250 or so, because right now it's taking forever for members to rank up and I'm not sure that's entirely due to most posts being garbage. There are Hero members who consistently make great posts, and getting to 1000 merits from 500 is one hell of a barrier.
I would agree with that. I didn't realize merit source applications were such a low priority. Does Theymos think we don't need more, or is he just being silent about it?
He has stated before that there will likely be hundreds. He probably knows that more merit sources are needed, but its finding users that are suitable for the role I guess. Not many users are applying either. I don't think they are "low" priority; like I said I received a reply very quickly from theymos, and was added as a merit source within 24 hours if my memory serves me correctly.
I support your application. I've given you merits in the past, and I also think you know what posts deserve merits. Your rank shouldn't have much to do with your ability to be a merit source, but I'm not sure what Theymos's take on that is. Higher-ranked, trusted members might be less likely to be corrupt (as in, they might not sell merit or give it to their alt accounts), but you're not exactly a noob.
It might be better giving a few mods or Globals the ability to designate new sources, or maybe even putting users to a vote once they've requested to be made a source.
I would agree with that. I didn't realize merit source applications were such a low priority. Does Theymos think we don't need more, or is he just being silent about it? I would start to look at those people which are actually giving away merits and then further look into what kind of posts are giving merits, we basically have all the data needed to make this kind of decisions.
I had even made a tool to try to spot possible merit sources some time ago, i believe could be a starting point, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/top-30-merit-givers-per-board-interactive-tool-to-spot-possible-merit-sources-4393868 along with all the work done from other users as well.
Yeah, the data is here now. Through a community driven effort to post it publicly. Theymos likely already had most of this information, and analyzed it before appointing anyone. However, I think we should look at the recruitment idea a little further, and maybe as suggested appoint certain members/global moderators to appoint new merit sources. Perhaps only admins would be allowed to remove merit sources. I'm not sure, but I think I would like to see a better way of finding, and appointing new merit sources. I had even made a tool to try to spot possible merit sources some time ago, i believe could be a starting point, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/top-30-merit-givers-per-board-interactive-tool-to-spot-possible-merit-sources-4393868 along with all the work done from other users as well.
I'm not saying the application takes long. I think I received a response off theymos within like 12 hours for mine. I think its just the inconvenience of it, and a lot of users who would make good merit sources might refrain from applying publicly at least.
I'm not sure about giving certain staff members the rights to do it, maybe? However, I think the application process needs to be changed. There should probably be a way of identifying potential merit sources better, and not requiring them to post a public application. They'll only be bombarded by newbies asking for merits.
I would start to look at those people which are actually giving away merits and then further look into what kind of posts are giving merits, we basically have all the data needed to make this kind of decisions.
I had even made a tool to try to spot possible merit sources some time ago, i believe could be a starting point, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/top-30-merit-givers-per-board-interactive-tool-to-spot-possible-merit-sources-4393868 along with all the work done from other users as well.
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Strongly agree. You just said what is on my mind. Merit source are too less if compare with Bitcointalk community. However your all the suggestion is valuable for forum from beginning. I am not sure theymos is busy or just underestimate all the suggestions. There is more applicant waiting from long time. They should accept or reject. No idea about existing source how long they was wait.They'll only be bombarded by newbies asking for merits
I think most of newbie isn't aware about what is merit source.
. They know only merit 
legendary
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They'll only be bombarded by newbies asking for merits.
Then it'll be easy to find newbies who'll be put on ignore
and the distribution of merits to the members will be fair for the reason you've already filtered some of them .Yes, and I don’t think newbies will know anything about this application once it disappears from the first page. Unless they are multi accounts.
No posts from me? Fail.
That’s because your posts aren’t of enough quality. Lol!Sarcasm btw.
No posts from me? Fail.
That’s because your posts aren’t of enough quality. Lol!I imagined that this wouldn’t be a priority and that, if I was going to get accepted, it would take some time. But what was most important is that for me this was a challenge: I knew it was going to be difficult, I knew that I was maybe going to not get accepted, but I want to be a merit source and I did my work to become so. I actually enjoyed it.
Oh hell yeah. I applied on February 9, and I am still waiting. Loyce waited for like 4 months. I am out of merits buddy. If I had enough merits I would have merited them all. That’s the point. No one merited them and I believe they deserve at least, the very least, one merit.
And as I have explained above, I don’t send merits to Legendaries currently, so I’m not going to merit Theymos, Jet Cash, etc.
It makes sense that legendaries shouldn't be merited, but that's not how its supposed to be, however it has become that. Merit whoever you want, as long as they make good posts. Just let that be your mindset. And as I have explained above, I don’t send merits to Legendaries currently, so I’m not going to merit Theymos, Jet Cash, etc.
Goodluck with your application. If you get approved before me, I'll be jealous of you,and will follow you around like QS & co.
Sarcasm btw.
I know. 
They'll only be bombarded by newbies asking for merits.
Then it'll be easy to find newbies who'll be put on ignore
and the distribution of merits to the members will be fair for the reason you've already filtered some of them .
I'm not sure about giving certain staff members the rights to do it, maybe? However, I think the application process needs to be changed. There should probably be a way of identifying potential merit sources better, and not requiring them to post a public application. They'll only be bombarded by newbies asking for merits.
It might be better giving a few mods or Globals the ability to designate new sources, or maybe even putting users to a vote once they've requested to be made a source.
This idea is not bad at all, with everything there is to do to make the forum function, is quite clear that some task need to be delegated from theymos to somebody else. I think is not that difficult to establish if somebody is appropriate to become a merit source, plus the merits are closely monitored so abuses and malpractice would be spotted quite fast.
Maybe you should open a thread about it or write this in a more appropriate thread to have the right visibility.
Op, prepare for a long wait
Another dude for Merit Source Application.
I think this would be also put on a pending application like cwrt's.
Don't worry, you've earned your reputation and credits far enough. You'll get accepted but I think it will be on a long time process.
I think this would be also put on a pending application like cwrt's.
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But what was most important is that for me this was a challenge: I knew it was going to be difficult, I knew that I was maybe going to not get accepted, but I want to be a merit source and I did my work to become so. I actually enjoyed it.
Don't worry, you've earned your reputation and credits far enough. You'll get accepted but I think it will be on a long time process.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1565
The first decentralized crypto betting platform
No posts from me? Fail.
That’s because your posts aren’t of enough quality. Lol!
When was the last time a merit source got added? Given the list of things that aren't getting done right now I'm not sure how much of a priority this would be for theymos (though adding merit sources frequently needs to happen for the system to work).
I imagined that this wouldn’t be a priority and that, if I was going to get accepted, it would take some time. But what was most important is that for me this was a challenge: I knew it was going to be difficult, I knew that I was maybe going to not get accepted, but I want to be a merit source and I did my work to become so. I actually enjoyed it.
Edit : I am not sure how potential your picked post. To be honest it's not look like much strong to me for merit source application. No one merited on their post include you. If they deserve merit, at least you should merited them before listed on OP. I think still you can edit OP.
I am out of merits buddy. If I had enough merits I would have merited them all. That’s the point. No one merited them and I believe they deserve at least, the very least, one merit.
And as I have explained above, I don’t send merits to Legendaries currently, so I’m not going to merit Theymos, Jet Cash, etc.
No posts from me? Fail.
When was the last time a merit source got added? Given the list of things that aren't getting done right now I'm not sure how much of a priority this would be for theymos (though adding merit sources frequently needs to happen for the system to work). It might be better giving a few mods or Globals the ability to designate new sources, or maybe even putting users to a vote once they've requested to be made a source. There could be even a team of 'trusted' community members that have their say and if the majority agree they're either made a source by whoever is able to or the recommendation is passed on to theymos. I previosuly suggested a board for high-merited users (or reporters) before and maybe these things could be discussed in there.
When was the last time a merit source got added? Given the list of things that aren't getting done right now I'm not sure how much of a priority this would be for theymos (though adding merit sources frequently needs to happen for the system to work). It might be better giving a few mods or Globals the ability to designate new sources, or maybe even putting users to a vote once they've requested to be made a source. There could be even a team of 'trusted' community members that have their say and if the majority agree they're either made a source by whoever is able to or the recommendation is passed on to theymos. I previosuly suggested a board for high-merited users (or reporters) before and maybe these things could be discussed in there.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1565
The first decentralized crypto betting platform
Support. But I think it would be better to use quote instead of screenshots image on your application.
Yes, I’m not sure of why I did that. It would have been easier and faster to just quote, lol!
I think because I wanted to point out that on this thread not only OP should have been merited for starting a relevant and eminently current discussion, but some comments could have been merited as well, so, I didn’t want to just quote OP.
I've edited it with quotes, thanks.
Support. But I think it would be better to use quote instead of screenshots image on your application. However we need more merit source on the forum. As far as I know you distribute your smerit fairly. So theymos can consider your application. Because merit system will dry slowly if there isn't enough merit source.
Edit : I am not sure how potential your picked post. To be honest it's not look like much strong to me for merit source application. No one merited on their post include you. If they deserve merit, at least you should merited them before listed on OP. I think still you can edit OP.
Edit : I am not sure how potential your picked post. To be honest it's not look like much strong to me for merit source application. No one merited on their post include you. If they deserve merit, at least you should merited them before listed on OP. I think still you can edit OP.
If you want to be a merit source:
1. Be a somewhat established member.
2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.
3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.
I am especially eager to have merit sources in sub-communities such as the local sections.
1. Be a somewhat established member.
2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.
3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.
I am especially eager to have merit sources in sub-communities such as the local sections.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1565
The first decentralized crypto betting platform
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