Merit stat & all transactions more than 40 Merits

sncc

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Quote from: realaccountakira on May 20, 2018, 08:01:11 PM

Been doing a little digging with this list, and it seems the 50 merits list is a great way to find alt accounts who are abusing both merits and bounties.

Here is an example of one such account that has escaped red paint: Chacoin17

The said account was given a total of 150 merits ALL on February 9 for spam posts that aren't even in completely proper english. All the 150 merits came from known alt abuser accounts which have already been red painted by ThePharmacist:

marcuslong
theend1949
chickennado

I've found more of such accounts and i can probably post a separate thread for them but for now I'll let you guys decide if this should be red painted. Going back to the topic, this just further shows how useful merit analysis actually is. Kudos to the original poster.

There was some discussion about this chain, see this thread:

Large amount merit transactions
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/large-amount-merit-transactions-3693207

It would be good to see other chains you found in a separate thread.

Quote from: TryNinja on May 21, 2018, 07:39:49 AM

Quote from: tranthidung on May 21, 2018, 06:38:55 AM

Quote from: sncc on May 19, 2018, 09:34:15 AM

-snip-

Hi sncc,
Firstly, thanks for great topic.
Secondly, would you mind giving me explanation why you chose the cutoff at 40 merit points, please.
Why not 20, 30, 50, or 100? It is likely a arbitrary cutoff to identify potential merit abusers.
Thank you, sncc.

40 or more. Check the list again...

Also, you can't send 100 merits to something at once. Only 50 per user/per month.

TryNinja is right, 50 is the largest number for single transaction. I chose 40 to include the peak at 40 Merits in the figure in the OP. Of course 30 and 25 have larger peaks but the list would be too long.

TryNinja

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Quote from: tranthidung on May 21, 2018, 06:38:55 AM

Quote from: sncc on May 19, 2018, 09:34:15 AM

Update: new transactions more than 40 Merits.

Date	Time	Merit	From	Post	To
2018/05/16	19:55:51	49	Southpaw0	->	zazarb
2018/05/15	06:11:36	47	valtin	->	winterrose
2018/05/14	20:54:37	40	identifyuser	->	alexberezov
2018/05/11	23:13:02	40	djnocide	->	Ben K.

Hi sncc,
Firstly, thanks for great topic.
Secondly, would you mind giving me explanation why you chose the cutoff at 40 merit points, please.
Why not 20, 30, 50, or 100? It is likely a arbitrary cutoff to identify potential merit abusers.
Thank you, sncc.

40 or more. Check the list again...

Also, you can't send 100 merits to something at once. Only 50 per user/per month.

tranthidung

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Quote from: sncc on May 19, 2018, 09:34:15 AM

Update: new transactions more than 40 Merits.

Date	Time	Merit	From	Post	To
2018/05/16	19:55:51	49	Southpaw0	->	zazarb
2018/05/15	06:11:36	47	valtin	->	winterrose
2018/05/14	20:54:37	40	identifyuser	->	alexberezov
2018/05/11	23:13:02	40	djnocide	->	Ben K.

Hi sncc,
Firstly, thanks for great topic.
Secondly, would you mind giving me explanation why you chose the cutoff at 40 merit points, please.
Why not 20, 30, 50, or 100? It is likely a arbitrary cutoff to identify potential merit abusers.
Thank you, sncc.

realaccountakira

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Been doing a little digging with this list, and it seems the 50 merits list is a great way to find alt accounts who are abusing both merits and bounties.

Here is an example of one such account that has escaped red paint: Chacoin17

The said account was given a total of 150 merits ALL on February 9 for spam posts that aren't even in completely proper english. All the 150 merits came from known alt abuser accounts which have already been red painted by ThePharmacist:

marcuslong
theend1949
chickennado

I've found more of such accounts and i can probably post a separate thread for them but for now I'll let you guys decide if this should be red painted. Going back to the topic, this just further shows how useful merit analysis actually is. Kudos to the original poster.

Flyne d Coin Digger

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It's getting in to something.... most likely this person has nothing to do and trying to be hero in some way.. . I hope I had 100 merit to award you for spending your time tracking this person who gives merit to other members, well we have our own hobbies by the way.... life is short my friend why not spend your time earning then go for a tour or vacation to relax rather than monitoring this bunch of people? Well if this make you happy then "fighting!"

sncc

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Merit: 513

Quote from: krishnaverma on May 19, 2018, 09:56:55 AM

Quote from: Jet Cash on May 19, 2018, 09:52:38 AM

I think there is another reason for awarding 50 merits to a member, and this is to pass the obligation to find meritable posts to someone else. I suspect this might be the reason that some of the 50s went to TMAN for example. TMAN is unlikely to be involved in any merit scams, but he has been active in awarding merits, and I can see that a member might want to support him in that. I have also been awarded 50 merits, and this was by a member with whom I have had no interaction, and I wonder if it ws for the same reason.

Another possibility is that someone wants to get his account painted red as revenge. This can be done from a useless high rank account that got some merit points to give by default. Whatever is the case, I hope the staff which makes the final decision keep in mind all aspects while making the final decision.

Quote from: tbct_mt2 on May 19, 2018, 10:00:13 AM

Totally with your point of view, Jet Cash.
Two main factors should be taken into consideration:
1) Excessively high merit points for one thread from single user.
2) Quality of the thread.

I don't see reason to judge anyone who received more than 50 merits from someone.
There are several topics, threads which are helpful, informative and, of course, worth more than 50 merits. They are invaluable topics/ threads.

As mentioned in the OP, large amount transactions do not necessarily mean that all of them are suspicious, but some of them does seem so. This list provides candidate transactions that require a closer look of each case, and the decision should be made only after that.

kenjionline

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stompix

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I think that merit awarded in the firsts few days can't be considered abuse, most users didn't have a clue it was limited, thought of it to be like Facebook likes and just kept awarding merit left and right for everything.
Same for a legendary member getting 40-50 now, what would be the point of it?
But a member who has 0 merits from 300 posts and suddenly gets 20,30 or even 50 for a simple two line posts..that's shady.

I remember that in the first minutes of the merit system I was reading how Lauda tried to give Luptin negative merit Grin

, I tried to do the same to Theymos Grin

but he fixed it before I was able to .....

tbct_mt2

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Quote from: Jet Cash on May 19, 2018, 09:52:38 AM

I think there is another reason for awarding 50 merits to a member, and this is to pass the obligation to find meritable posts to someone else. I suspect this might be the reason that some of the 50s went to TMAN for example. TMAN is unlikely to be involved in any merit scams, but he has been active in awarding merits, and I can see that a member might want to support him in that. I have also been awarded 50 merits, and this was by a member with whom I have had no interaction, and I wonder if it ws for the same reason.

Totally with your point of view, Jet Cash.
Two main factors should be taken into consideration:
1) Excessively high merit points for one thread from single user.
2) Quality of the thread.

I don't see reason to judge anyone who received more than 50 merits from someone.
There are several topics, threads which are helpful, informative and, of course, worth more than 50 merits. They are invaluable topics/ threads.

krishnaverma

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Quote from: Jet Cash on May 19, 2018, 09:52:38 AM

I think there is another reason for awarding 50 merits to a member, and this is to pass the obligation to find meritable posts to someone else. I suspect this might be the reason that some of the 50s went to TMAN for example. TMAN is unlikely to be involved in any merit scams, but he has been active in awarding merits, and I can see that a member might want to support him in that. I have also been awarded 50 merits, and this was by a member with whom I have had no interaction, and I wonder if it ws for the same reason.

Another possibility is that someone wants to get his account painted red as revenge. This can be done from a useless high rank account that got some merit points to give by default. Whatever is the case, I hope the staff which makes the final decision keep in mind all aspects while making the final decision.

Jet Cash

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I think there is another reason for awarding 50 merits to a member, and this is to pass the obligation to find meritable posts to someone else. I suspect this might be the reason that some of the 50s went to TMAN for example. TMAN is unlikely to be involved in any merit scams, but he has been active in awarding merits, and I can see that a member might want to support him in that. I have also been awarded 50 merits, and this was by a member with whom I have had no interaction, and I wonder if it ws for the same reason.

sncc

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Activity: 536

Merit: 513

Update: new transactions more than 40 Merits.

Date	Time	Merit	From	Post	To
2018/05/16	19:55:51	49	Southpaw0	->	zazarb
2018/05/15	06:11:36	47	valtin	->	winterrose
2018/05/14	20:54:37	40	identifyuser	->	alexberezov
2018/05/11	23:13:02	40	djnocide	->	Ben K.

sncc

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Activity: 536

Merit: 513

Update: new transactions more than 40 Merits.

Date	Time	Merit	From	Post	To
2018/05/10	17:37:32	50	serje	->	udivkx
2018/05/09	22:07:45	50	batesresearch	->	spartak_t
2018/05/08	10:16:35	50	erre	->	zTheWolfz
2018/05/06	18:26:00	50	serje	->	zhengqi
2018/05/06	09:12:29	50	farl4web	->	Vinylriff
2018/05/06	08:24:22	50	farl4web	->	Lasergun
2018/05/05	16:06:02	50	johny08	->	bcmine
2018/05/08	17:53:47	45	Urbinklin	->	udivkx
2018/05/04	21:58:11	42	roslinpl	->	edgycorner
2018/05/08	10:20:09	40	erre	->	Aleks09

Quote from: lxgiwyl18 on May 11, 2018, 09:42:06 PM

Btw, I just want to add this profile on the lists here below :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ben-k-1915943

Please check his earned merits.

This is on May 11 so will be included in the next data release, great that you found it before that.

LFC_Bitcoin

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Quote from: puzzling_rvat on May 12, 2018, 03:28:45 AM

As for me - It is a really interesting and attractive thread for people who like numbers, calculation and analyses. Really awesome, curious patterns were noticed and ofc 10 merits is more popular then 8, 9 or 11 due to reasons which everyone knows Wink

You’d think that they would at least make an effort to not make it totally obvious by sending 8 or 9 Merit’s & trying to get the 1 or 2 remaining Merit’s from somebody the legitimate way.

Idiots.

puzzling_rvat

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As for me - It is a really interesting and attractive thread for people who like numbers, calculation and analyses. Really awesome, curious patterns were noticed and ofc 10 merits is more popular then 8, 9 or 11 due to reasons which everyone knows Wink

lxgiwyl18

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Hey guys!
So, this is a long lists of the users who sent plenty of merits in one person. I didnt bother to check each and everyone of them, but I know there are those who deserves 50 merits ( but I think that would be in a rare condition ) and some of them are just giving away tons of merits just to rank up a specific account regardless of the senseless mediocre posts ( which is I think is against the forum rules ).
Btw, I just want to add this profile on the lists here below :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ben-k-1915943

Please check his earned merits.

tbct_mt2

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Quote from: Vod on March 20, 2018, 08:16:36 PM

To date 179 posts have been given 50 merits by one person at one time.

Interestingly, there was only an additional 40 posts when I dropped the threshold to 40 merit or higher - 219 people.

I guess, Theymos included in those ones, Vod.
Just kidding. There are very little qualitied threads/ topics which deserved to receive more than 20 merits, but there are also several threads/ topics worth more than 20 merits (just my opinion). The problem is most of those 50-merit-earnt threads are shitty ones, which are one-line, one-to-ten words, etc
Fortunately, most of them have been reported and banned. It is good for the forum.
By the way, thanks Theymos for launching the merit system.

LFC_Bitcoin

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Quote from: Vod on March 20, 2018, 08:16:36 PM

To date 179 posts have been given 50 merits by one person at one time.

Interestingly, there was only an additional 40 posts when I dropped the threshold to 40 merit or higher - 219 people.

I would assume that anything higher than 10-15 merits sent by one poster to another in a single transaction looks shady as fuck unless it’s for an iconic post/thread started some time ago.

Look around the entire forum, it just doesn’t happen. Pretty much everybody except Merit Sources have shot their sMerit load.

So yeah, I’d be extremely suspicious of any scenario in the bolded text above.

LoyceV

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Quote from: Vod on March 20, 2018, 08:16:36 PM

To date 179 posts have been given 50 merits by one person at one time.

Cloudflare blocks me from downloading from Bitcointalk through wget, so I can't update my records. I have 174 of them in my records, see this list (human readable format).

sncc

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Merit: 513

Quote from: Vod on March 20, 2018, 08:16:36 PM

To date 179 posts have been given 50 merits by one person at one time.

Interestingly, there was only an additional 40 posts when I dropped the threshold to 40 merit or higher - 219 people.

Right, I guess those who send 50 merits at one time do not care or recognize if they would be marked as a suspicious merit abuser, and those who care it are choosing sufficiently fewer numbers of merits rather than 49, 48 ... 40. I assume a certain percentage of relatively large peaks at 20, 25, 30 in the histogram in the OP correspond to such transactions, and they might have sent like 25 + 25 or 20 + 30 or maybe 20 + 20 to avoid to reach the upper bound of 50. Of course they could stop just sending 20 or 30 if that amount is sufficient for rank up or they try to avoid to be marked as abuses.

I think focusing on the 50-merit transactions is the first step, as it is the easiest and most efficient way I presume, after which it would be good to consider more decent analysis to shed light on the relatively large peaks at 20, 25, 30.

Vod

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To date 179 posts have been given 50 merits by one person at one time.

Interestingly, there was only an additional 40 posts when I dropped the threshold to 40 merit or higher - 219 people.

sncc

hero member

Activity: 536

Merit: 513

Quote from: LoyceV on March 04, 2018, 07:59:14 AM

Although I agree that we need more Merit sources, it can't necessarily be concluded from this. Many users^* distributed Merits to their alt-accounts, and this should end when their initial free Merits dry up.

^* From the Top-merited users, recent merit, many users have red trust for Merit trading (from the first 10: 452: pitipawn, 283: RichDaniel, 251: saulzaents and 151: niknik1966), and many are suspected to have traded Merit (such as Chachacoin17).

Quote from: TheQuin on March 04, 2018, 06:07:12 AM

Another suggestion as what to look for: Accounts that suddenly received the required amount of merit to rank up. Like this one that took only 13 days to get the 150 merit required to go from Full Member to Sr Member. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31426338

It's even more suspicious if they stop getting new Merit right after they've reached the rank requirement.

Yes a certain percentage should be abuses, and I was trying to extract some rule to distinguish them.
In addition to focusing on the transaction with precisely necessary amount for rank up, and red trust, the pitipawn's merit history provides another rule; almost all the threads s/he was merited are "(Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)".

Quote from: TheQuin on March 04, 2018, 06:07:12 AM

I have no idea how easy that is to write a script to spot,

At this moment these rules are checked by human, maybe there is some nice way to code.

coin5haker

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Wow! Nice work, you must be one familiar with Data analysis. I didn't know that it is available for public access. That what I call quality post.

LoyceV

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Quote from: sncc on March 01, 2018, 11:47:15 AM

In total 85524 sMerits have been sent.
This number is much larger than 11975 sMerits, which are currently created by 57 merit sources per month.
The sMerits created by 57 merit sources are not sufficient and most of used sMerits were initially assigned ones.
This fact suggests that we need more merit sources and/or more sMerits per source.

Although I agree that we need more Merit sources, it can't necessarily be concluded from this. Many users^* distributed Merits to their alt-accounts, and this should end when their initial free Merits dry up.

^* From the Top-merited users, recent merit, many users have red trust for Merit trading (from the first 10: 452: pitipawn, 283: RichDaniel, 251: saulzaents and 151: niknik1966), and many are suspected to have traded Merit (such as Chachacoin17).

Quote from: TheQuin on March 04, 2018, 06:07:12 AM

Another suggestion as what to look for: Accounts that suddenly received the required amount of merit to rank up. Like this one that took only 13 days to get the 150 merit required to go from Full Member to Sr Member. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31426338

It's even more suspicious if they stop getting new Merit right after they've reached the rank requirement.

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Quote from: hurry_hore on March 04, 2018, 07:25:46 AM

That is the one important thing to start creating a standard for merit reward so every member will be responsible for their reward to other member. There is a thread for beginning to create a standard posting : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merits-how-for-criteria-guidance-of-good-post-and-also-how-for-merits-pool-3010719.

I think you failed your own criteria here. This is completely off-topic in this thread.

hurry_hore

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Quote from: TheQuin on March 04, 2018, 06:07:12 AM

Quote from: sncc on March 03, 2018, 07:53:02 AM

This approach, listing up all transactions of large amount of merits, should be regarded as the first step, as it omits cases such as multiple transactions with e.g. 20 merits between the same users.
It is also helpful to check users who send merits back and forth among particular closed users, which are most likely merit farmers.
To detect such abuses, we need more careful investigations by taking into account not only sent merit amount but also user data.

Another suggestion as what to look for: Accounts that suddenly received the required amount of merit to rank up. Like this one that took only 13 days to get the 150 merit required to go from Full Member to Sr Member. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31426338

I have no idea how easy that is to write a script to spot, but it is an obvious giveaway.

That is the one important thing to start creating a standard for merit reward so every member will be responsible for their reward to other member. There is a thread for beginning to create a standard posting : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merits-how-for-criteria-guidance-of-good-post-and-also-how-for-merits-pool-3010719.

hurry_hore

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This is good data to go for further step, creating standardized high posting. I need to explore further these data to classify standardized posting to sharpen a real high quality posting and the objectivity. If this standard available, at least below can be served :
1. Increasing the objectivity of merit sending
2. Build and increase the accountability and responsibility to send merit
3. Help newbie particularly and also some member to train good and high quality posting, so this is some kind of training and lesson for this forum.

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Quote from: sncc on March 03, 2018, 07:53:02 AM

This approach, listing up all transactions of large amount of merits, should be regarded as the first step, as it omits cases such as multiple transactions with e.g. 20 merits between the same users.
It is also helpful to check users who send merits back and forth among particular closed users, which are most likely merit farmers.
To detect such abuses, we need more careful investigations by taking into account not only sent merit amount but also user data.

Another suggestion as what to look for: Accounts that suddenly received the required amount of merit to rank up. Like this one that took only 13 days to get the 150 merit required to go from Full Member to Sr Member. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.31426338

I have no idea how easy that is to write a script to spot, but it is an obvious giveaway.

romanovst

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Quote from: sncc on March 02, 2018, 07:47:19 AM

1. would-be exchange between alt accounts
2. transaction at early stage of her/his sMerit history when s/he did not know how merits are rare / how many merits are reasonable to send for each good post
3. merit for very old posts e.g. by satoshi

1. That is about 70-80 % of these cases and should be strictly dealt with. I think those members have already spent their merit points (50 merit points are maximum I guess which one got by default).

2) There can be few of such cases but we need to carefully examine them as well. For instance, observing the login times of both accounts can give some idea whether it was intentional or just for testing the feature on a random account.

3) I do not think any one gave 50 merits points for his posts. If you are talking about those posts getting 50 points in total, that is allowed in my opinion.

sncc

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This approach, listing up all transactions of large amount of merits, should be regarded as the first step, as it omits cases such as multiple transactions with e.g. 20 merits between the same users.
It is also helpful to check users who send merits back and forth among particular closed users, which are most likely merit farmers.
To detect such abuses, we need more careful investigations by taking into account not only sent merit amount but also user data.

sncc

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Activity: 536

Merit: 513

Quote from: Naitik on March 01, 2018, 11:54:40 AM

It shows that everyone is preserved about giving merit points. And some of them getting good merit points as they probably making A++ posts.
But if you can give us the link of 50 merited posts as you have researched. It will be helpful for us, we will learn from that posts. Thus improving ourselves for the good posts. May be we will be listed in that 50 merited points next time.
But in a nutshell its a great research.

I wanted to agree with you and to be optimistic about these transactions, but after checking some part of the 50 merited posts listed above, it seems to me that most of them are questionable ones, namely either of

1. would-be exchange between alt accounts
2. transaction at early stage of her/his sMerit history when s/he did not know how merits are rare / how many merits are reasonable to send for each good post
3. merit for very old posts e.g. by satoshi

As people get used to the system, I expect at least type 2 transaction should decrease.

To draw some lesson for good quality posts, it would be more helpful to look at posts received many merits but not too many, e.g. 20 or 25, which can be easily tractable from the data, as well as posts received small amount of merits from many users, which requires some work with the data to identify.
While they should still include the above three types, I presume their percentages are lower than those for 50 merited posts.

guschin

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Quote from: F2b on March 02, 2018, 03:10:13 AM

Quote from: treatWy on March 01, 2018, 08:22:57 PM

The users didn't give 50 merit because it might be questionable in the sight of many.

That's the problem: it shouldn't be the case. If people find that suspicious, so why continue to allow it? Why not simply forbid giving more than X Merit at once (X being whatever value you want, but less than 40 or 30)?

Following can be the reason behind this:

1) Admin wants all members to spend their default merit points before introducing further changes. He may be interested in finding some alt accounts through this merit system. Those members giving 50 merit points for a single post can be easily identified. The particular merit spending can then be analyzed and members involved with merit abuse can be punished.

2) Admin might not be expecting members to make such foolish mistakes. I really sometimes laugh at members doing this even after many such similar abuse cases had been recognized.

romanovst

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Quote from: treatWy on March 01, 2018, 08:22:57 PM

The users didn't give 50 merit because it might be questionable in the sight of many. Merit so far is always the issue to the concern participants but not to those who aren't.

We have to consider a lot of aspects before punishing those members. First is the members who did it one or two days after the merit system might be testing this function. They might not have understood that merits are limited and thus one should not give more than 5 merits per post. Another thing to consider here is that some genuine posts might be deserving. For instance, the official thread regarding merit system received a lot of merits from different members. But it deserves those merits as all members are affected by that decision.

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Quote from: treatWy on March 01, 2018, 08:22:57 PM

The users didn't give 50 merit because it might be questionable in the sight of many.

That's the problem: it shouldn't be the case. If people find that suspicious, so why continue to allow it? Why not simply forbid giving more than X Merit at once (X being whatever value you want, but less than 40 or 30)?

In the other hand, people find this suspicious mainly because there are very few sMerit in circulation, so people are not supposed to give 50 Merit at once, since it is an incredibly high value for any member. In fact, the people that gived dozens of Merit like that are mainly high-ranked members that were given a lot of sMerit at the beginning ; they didn't know Merit would be so rare so they spent it like it should be: generously.
There is currently around 15000 sMerits given to the merit sources each month. Maybe giving 50 Merit to someone would be far less souspicious if the number of Merit given to the Merit sources (that give them to members other than legendaries, obviously) was 20 or 30 times bigger.

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Quote from: lamlaicuocdoi on March 01, 2018, 10:18:45 PM

Interesting, but please tell me how to get those raw data from the forum. Thank you.

If you just read carefully you can find it on the OP, but since you ask for it rather than looking here you go.

Quote from: theymos on March 01, 2018, 06:37:16 AM

Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/merit.txt.xz
It will show only the last 120 days of data; someone else should archive the old ones if you want them.

Im pretty sure that a lot people have been downloading that file for the sole purpose of an in depth investigation. Goodluck to the ones investigating.

You cant escape the eye of Sauron

lamlaicuocdoi

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Interesting, but please tell me how to get those raw data from the forum. Thank you.

treatWy

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The users didn't give 50 merit because it might be questionable in the sight of many. Merit so far is always the issue to the concern participants but not to those who aren't.

coinlocket$

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I was looking for this to check sMerit sellers/sent to alts, is easier to track now as you can see there is no reason at all why some posts are rewarded with 50 point.

This one is an example

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=166677

Received in the last 120 days

   January 25, 2018, 12:30:50 PM: 43 from thresher for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
   January 25, 2018, 12:25:58 PM: 41 from trollercoaster for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=221867

Sent in the last 120 days
   January 25, 2018, 02:15:51 PM: 50 to gruve_p for [ANN][GRS] Groestlcoin | Segwit activated | Adding Segwit to all our platforms
Received in the last 120 days
   January 25, 2018, 02:17:17 PM: 26 from gruve_p for Re: [ANN][GRS] Groestlcoin | Segwit activated | Adding Segwit to all our platforms

Well with this 3d, we can report a ton of this things.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=990983
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=822485
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=511933

proabalbly alts

krishnaverma

full member

Activity: 1442

Merit: 108

Posts getting more than 20 merit points from a single member need to be checked. This will involve a lot of work though. First we will have to consider that some of the threads might be exceptional and those merits points are justified for them. Secondly, very few members will be able to understand the content in local sections. Thus, members should observe such posts in their respective local board and report it in threads like : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-suspected-users-that-are-abusing-merit-30-2896910.

Naitik

member

Activity: 714

Merit: 11

It shows that everyone is preserved about giving merit points. And some of them getting good merit points as they probably making A++ posts.
But if you can give us the link of 50 merited posts as you have researched. It will be helpful for us, we will learn from that posts. Thus improving ourselves for the good posts. May be we will be listed in that 50 merited points next time.
But in a nutshell its a great research.

sncc

hero member

Activity: 536

Merit: 513

42 Merit

yyyy/mm/dd	hh:mm:ss	User_From	Post	User_To
2018/04/06	12:51:50	gamerWOT	->	DronBudloS
2018/04/02	01:15:15	roslinpl	->	satoshi
2018/04/02	00:59:43	roslinpl	->	theymos
2018/02/26	07:27:36	SimpeleSimpele	->	TheBobyHunter
2018/02/15	21:16:31	masstahcoiner	->	geoneojapan
2018/01/27	23:55:18	ahoenk	->	devollito

41 Merit

2018/04/19	12:09:16	Vlad2Vlad	->	LimxDev
2018/01/28	09:37:04	yua_na	->	devollito
2018/01/27	18:32:58	striker73342.0	->	Rumhurius
2018/01/25	15:48:20	Embat	->	dimao
2018/01/25	12:25:58	trollercoaster	->	Bitcoiner12

40 Merit

2018/05/02	07:15:42	bitebits	->	Last of the V8s
2018/04/21	06:33:25	seek4dream	->	snowfu199
2018/04/14	20:34:26	winterrose	->	valtin
2018/04/13	15:37:15	boltz	->	Rabinovitch8
2018/03/21	03:45:00	102339	->	allowance1219
2018/03/16	17:20:49	ronin07	->	The_ Flash
2018/03/14	14:26:21	frankkkkkkk	->	fengxia
2018/02/22	04:44:14	ifightformerkel	->	Patron92
2018/02/15	05:35:29	Twinscoin2017	->	chikading2016
2018/02/13	15:04:13	wheelz1200	->	romanornr
2018/02/09	23:59:43	nullius	->	gmaxwell
2018/02/09	12:47:24	mstfprcn	->	saulzaents
2018/02/08	21:58:18	Trade_BTC	->	Kreds
2018/02/07	05:01:05	BTCMILLIONAIRE	->	Vod
2018/02/01	18:00:16	xyz	->	moodledidoodledi
2018/02/01	17:59:20	xyz	->	WorldCoiner
2018/01/29	19:26:35	jpoker272727	->	anjho.ace
2018/01/29	10:07:22	JohnUser	->	Laeltin
2018/01/25	17:29:01	rus23kav	->	Irchus
2018/01/25	01:04:29	Palider	->	theymos
2018/01/24	23:19:38	Kiritsugu	->	theymos

sncc

hero member

Activity: 536

Merit: 513

50 Merit transactions (continued)

yyyy/mm/dd	hh:mm:ss	User_From	Post	User_To
2018/02/04	18:41:38	RHavar	->	DarkDays
2018/02/03	12:02:26	carlisle1	->	Kemarit
2018/02/03	10:34:59	Morguk	->	Payne976
2018/02/03	09:26:48	Bittzy78	->	_church
2018/02/02	23:47:21	antantti	->	pallas
2018/02/02	23:31:00	oscar2000	->	Becassine
2018/02/02	20:01:42	farsky	->	poptop
2018/02/02	16:09:40	farsky	->	Rogerdale
2018/02/02	15:18:33	ivanst776	->	santino11
2018/02/02	09:47:55	corather	->	VonSpass
2018/02/02	08:32:23	corather	->	lfloorwalker
2018/02/01	14:18:39	PistonHonda	->	Mrpumperitis
2018/02/01	07:05:40	Arget07	->	Komrad880
2018/01/31	23:23:30	savioroshan	->	roccstar
2018/01/31	20:20:24	Kda2018	->	satoshi
2018/01/31	18:54:33	Seccour	->	GameKyuubi
2018/01/31	18:11:09	theymos	->	marlboroza
2018/01/31	15:23:49	soniclord	->	nullius
2018/01/31	13:51:50	soniclord	->	Lauda
2018/01/31	13:50:16	alevlaslo	->	farsky
2018/01/31	13:40:23	KenChanYu	->	Twinscoin2017
2018/01/31	13:30:50	Gaff	->	Twinscoin2017
2018/01/31	11:51:21	vavan1974muz	->	alexbond
2018/01/31	09:28:36	Webcelerator.	->	alexbond
2018/01/31	08:48:57	Coin++	->	CarlOrff
2018/01/30	22:18:12	RoomBot	->	truckinusa44
2018/01/30	17:10:19	vokain	->	LeGaulois
2018/01/30	11:24:54	ZenFr	->	Coin++
2018/01/30	11:19:06	ZenFr	->	CarlOrff
2018/01/29	19:56:59	iluvbitcoins	->	BiPolarBob
2018/01/29	15:31:43	QuestionAuthority	->	pandukelana2712
2018/01/29	15:12:24	iwantapony	->	shorena
2018/01/29	09:42:44	CryptoCanary	->	EverGreenCoin
2018/01/28	13:05:31	raetsch	->	gawlea
2018/01/28	12:39:33	Bittzy78	->	gawlea
2018/01/28	09:56:34	shorena	->	phantastisch
2018/01/28	09:55:20	shorena	->	Tomatocage
2018/01/28	09:54:58	shorena	->	mprep
2018/01/28	08:31:23	mekarsari	->	maldini
2018/01/27	22:57:01	RHavar	->	Dexon
2018/01/27	20:06:26	Cacaparg	->	GR92
2018/01/27	18:27:56	Rumhurius	->	striker73342.0
2018/01/27	16:57:18	FrictionlessCoin	->	Woshib
2018/01/27	13:58:29	sgbett	->	dinofelis
2018/01/27	12:41:21	DIA7	->	cho99
2018/01/27	03:53:14	peloso	->	Blazed
2018/01/27	03:49:32	peloso	->	465017
2018/01/27	03:39:00	peloso	->	theymos
2018/01/26	21:12:44	negeroy	->	satoshi
2018/01/26	20:49:45	dvd-rw	->	amaclin1
2018/01/26	20:35:22	dvd-rw	->	poptop
2018/01/26	19:54:16	sofu	->	theymos
2018/01/26	16:46:09	dvd-rw	->	Co1n
2018/01/26	15:46:57	jooj	->	wnj4
2018/01/26	13:10:56	wnj4	->	jooj
2018/01/26	09:41:11	LongAndShort	->	Marec4
2018/01/26	09:40:43	LongAndShort	->	casinocoin
2018/01/26	09:06:57	Scorpion	->	theymos
2018/01/26	07:50:24	Come-from-Beyond	->	Jacky_Chan
2018/01/26	07:07:37	ezeminer	->	TMAN
2018/01/26	03:58:42	cakravothy	->	TheBobyHunter
2018/01/26	00:25:33	otrkid70	->	theymos
2018/01/25	23:26:06	antantti	->	Epsylon3
2018/01/25	21:50:56	Cean	->	Leonbtc
2018/01/25	21:04:38	hoop	->	wnj4
2018/01/25	21:02:40	hoop	->	jooj
2018/01/25	20:38:26	Hawker	->	Jordan23
2018/01/25	20:37:42	Hawker	->	wpt1wpt1
2018/01/25	20:36:50	Hawker	->	mmm01
2018/01/25	20:05:02	cacucacok91	->	BitmarkInvest
2018/01/25	19:35:59	alani123	->	satoshi
2018/01/25	17:00:35	eeX	->	crex24
2018/01/25	16:24:14	dimao	->	Visesrion
2018/01/25	16:03:37	tbearhere	->	crypto_zoidberg
2018/01/25	15:58:00	chixka000	->	alexberezov
2018/01/25	15:39:16	NetFreak199	->	alexberezov
2018/01/25	14:15:51	jackielove4u	->	gruve_p
2018/01/25	14:00:16	soniclord	->	Chetty
2018/01/25	13:44:33	x4	->	Koger
2018/01/25	13:37:56	Easy2Mine	->	nopedope89
2018/01/25	12:23:42	trollercoaster	->	SpringfieldM1A
2018/01/25	11:26:20	tbearhere	->	b4h4mu7
2018/01/25	10:58:15	killyou72	->	Lutpin
2018/01/25	08:03:39	blo8i	->	alexberezov
2018/01/25	06:29:37	HabBear	->	GameKyuubi
2018/01/25	05:31:28	premium_domainer	->	levyashin
2018/01/25	01:45:26	Kiritsugu	->	ethan_nx
2018/01/25	01:38:00	albert11	->	CornHub
2018/01/25	01:02:47	minerjones	->	theymos
2018/01/24	23:38:35	minifrij	->	Lutpin
2018/01/24	22:57:52	klaaas	->	Lauda
2018/01/24	22:52:15	LesbianCow	->	satoshi
2018/01/24	22:37:10	DahmanEl_Harrachi	->	Lutpin

49 Merit

2018/02/18	09:41:41	marlboroza	->	Joel_Jantsen
2018/02/07	20:00:23	Bitstar_coin	->	Battlestar_Coin
2018/01/24	22:40:10	LesbianCow	->	Lutpin
2018/01/24	22:39:51	Hhampuz	->	Lutpin

48 Merit

2018/04/23	03:21:53	dazedfool	->	killyou73
2018/03/21	09:58:32	allowance1219	->	colacat1111
2018/01/28	02:55:37	DOGEbubble	->	swolf

46 Merit

2018/04/21

06:38:51

snowfu199

->

moonriver

45 Merit

2018/05/01	16:31:42	alexberezov	->	identifyuser
2018/02/24	17:47:00	frankenmint	->	Dr.Mann
2018/02/18	20:29:55	valley365	->	pitipawn
2018/02/14	16:09:49	zdeni82	->	vanessa81
2018/02/05	01:52:34	casinobonusgiveaway	->	RichDaniel
2018/02/04	01:19:30	c_lab	->	phantastisch
2018/01/28	09:35:10	devollito	->	yua_na
2018/01/25	17:28:24	rus23kav	->	HypNoSE
2018/01/24	22:31:18	aTriz	->	Lauda

44 Merit

2018/04/09	07:49:57	Bitze	->	mole0815
2018/02/22	03:08:55	whisee	->	atileture
2018/02/15	18:57:01	talatk	->	Bitcocoin
2018/02/03	08:30:32	Bittzy78	->	zincra

43 Merit

2018/04/05	13:12:15	Marec4	->	Seapork
2018/01/25	12:30:50	thresher	->	Bitcoiner12

sncc

hero member

Activity: 536

Merit: 513

Update: 2018/05/09

The tables below are updated to include the most recent transactions, while the graphs and numbers are kept as the original post.

Link to tables

Merit raw data is now available:

Quote from: theymos on March 01, 2018, 06:37:16 AM

Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/merit.txt.xz

Similar to trust.txt.xz, it'll be updated weekly. It will show only the last 120 days of data; someone else should archive the old ones if you want them.

I am especially interested in analyses of this data which could point to sub-communities where the initial sMerit is exhausted and new sources are necessary, and people who might be good merit sources.

Edit: Note that for a little while I had user_to and user_from as names, but I decided to change it to IDs.

By using the data, I created a histogram of the distribution of the number of users who sent 1-50 sMerits:

https://i.imgur.com/tliiyaH

https://i.imgur.com/kLJYU5e

Clearly, 1 Merit is the most popular choice, but it is interesting to see that the histogram is not monotonically decreasing.
Top 10 amounts of sent merits are as follows:

Amount	# of Users
1	26035
2	4939
5	2156
3	1485
10	866
4	750
6	245
20	216
7	138
50	102

On the other hand, no one sent 37, 46, 47 Merits, two of which are prime numbers, presumably implying that people un/consciously do not like big prime numbers and prefer good cut-off point.

In total 85524 sMerits have been sent.
This number is much larger than 11975 sMerits, which are currently created by 57 merit sources per month.
The sMerits created by 57 merit sources are not sufficient and most of used sMerits were initially assigned ones.
This fact suggests that we need more merit sources and/or more sMerits per source.

We see that there is a peak at the upper limit of 50 Merit, some of which may be abuse of merit.
For those who want to check them, I created a clickable table of all transactions more than 40 sMerits.

Update: 2018/05/09

50 Merit transactions

yyyy/mm/dd	hh:mm:ss	User_From	Post	User_To
2018/04/30	02:13:51	ICOcountdown.com	->	Rugosa
2018/04/29	10:45:38	hhk1045	->	anonymous3x
2018/04/26	16:02:35	George5	->	DrCharles
2018/04/24	12:44:16	chronicsky	->	sourish
2018/04/24	10:43:28	bumbacoin	->	satoshi
2018/04/23	14:51:18	Jasad	->	Denies
2018/04/23	04:49:31	dazedfool	->	TMAN
2018/04/20	04:35:51	bitpop	->	suchmoon
2018/04/20	03:46:53	HCLivess	->	Hal
2018/04/16	14:29:52	Rumhurius	->	popshot
2018/04/15	06:31:10	rorschach1	->	CryptonikaTrade
2018/04/14	16:33:59	Taxidermista	->	brianmct
2018/04/13	15:35:15	boltz	->	Eclipse2021
2018/04/12	14:07:54	iTradeChips	->	JaoBadjap
2018/04/11	06:16:57	generalizethis	->	cryptimus prime
2018/04/09	09:03:20	Claymore	->	satoshi
2018/04/08	08:15:37	Cazkys	->	Nerobasta
2018/04/06	15:01:27	sardokan	->	LeGaulois
2018/04/06	06:44:27	Jumbley	->	DigiByte
2018/04/05	15:44:02	jackielove4u	->	ocminer
2018/04/04	16:26:43	DaveyJones	->	unknownids
2018/04/04	07:21:02	valtin	->	winterrose
2018/04/03	19:04:54	goxed	->	GameKyuubi
2018/03/31	17:12:53	Hyperjacked	->	heratys111
2018/03/31	08:25:26	CryptKeeper	->	tonych
2018/03/30	16:32:42	bonosurgut	->	BigBoozie
2018/03/30	10:52:36	1Referee	->	ChipMixer
2018/03/30	10:49:22	1Referee	->	satoshi
2018/03/30	08:30:19	sardokan	->	superresistant
2018/03/28	15:51:54	Southpaw0	->	zazarb
2018/03/28	06:26:44	notbatman	->	monero
2018/03/27	09:20:29	HCLivess	->	gawlea
2018/03/26	19:10:53	Mr.Net	->	Arysum
2018/03/25	22:04:14	HostFat	->	gallisiardi
2018/03/25	20:00:02	Phore	->	moonshoot
2018/03/24	12:34:54	CrackedLogic	->	btcnerdie
2018/03/23	10:39:42	ekoja	->	miramare
2018/03/22	22:55:28	Rumhurius	->	LimxDev
2018/03/21	18:27:36	Rumhurius	->	bytemaster
2018/03/21	07:22:18	mrhelpful	->	allinvain
2018/03/19	12:59:31	pinkpanther03	->	Wingzcrypto2018
2018/03/19	10:59:43	cryptodevil	->	suchmoon
2018/03/19	10:47:53	cryptodevil	->	spartak_t
2018/03/18	14:32:30	finist4x	->	aliborn
2018/03/16	02:53:47	BitcoinEXpress	->	Vod
2018/03/15	18:14:54	gordonhill	->	Kreds
2018/03/15	14:33:39	publicjud	->	proexcept
2018/03/15	05:49:13	Kousei23	->	plucking23
2018/03/13	20:18:17	Beachguy	->	whoismoses
2018/03/13	14:15:12	Cassius	->	vizsafe
2018/03/12	07:06:03	bitkilo	->	MemoryDealers
2018/03/10	16:30:07	biodieselchris	->	cheddur_announce
2018/03/09	16:51:32	spartak_t	->	batesresearch
2018/03/09	12:09:54	batesresearch	->	spartak_t
2018/03/07	14:20:44	PistonHonda	->	Kreds
2018/03/07	14:19:19	PistonHonda	->	mistercashking
2018/03/06	19:18:56	negeroy	->	satoshi
2018/03/06	17:00:50	CryptoCanary	->	crackfoo
2018/03/06	06:47:38	nrigo	->	gawlea
2018/03/05	12:24:14	Seccour	->	laszlo
2018/03/04	11:12:07	Greaves7	->	ATMcoin
2018/03/03	19:31:31	SparkyU	->	BarkingHawk
2018/03/03	16:45:53	HCLivess	->	baritus
2018/03/03	16:45:38	HCLivess	->	Tranz
2018/03/03	10:05:48	kliown	->	babicena14
2018/03/03	07:40:46	TheNewAnon135246	->	romanornr
2018/03/02	23:12:52	ancientcoins	->	ATMcoin
2018/03/02	18:22:35	BernieCoin	->	crackfoo
2018/02/28	17:37:03	taxmanmt5	->	pokerowned
2018/02/28	09:40:24	Wendigo	->	NLNico
2018/02/27	21:20:33	Claymore	->	satoshi
2018/02/27	19:01:32	Wendigo	->	ibminer
2018/02/27	07:33:56	BioMike	->	brobbel
2018/02/27	00:30:25	casinobitco	->	SyGambler
2018/02/26	14:43:31	CryptInvest	->	mthcl
2018/02/25	23:44:52	NoctisConnor	->	DrGuns4Hands
2018/02/24	17:47:23	Southpaw0	->	zazarb
2018/02/23	11:30:14	spartacusrex	->	monsterer2
2018/02/23	06:46:59	truimpheriues	->	TheBobyHunter
2018/02/23	03:00:14	peteycamey	->	Rhego
2018/02/22	05:50:41	superscommessebitcoin	->	Patron92
2018/02/21	01:12:39	bitcasino.io	->	blue_way
2018/02/20	12:27:55	flyer88	->	q(O_O)p
2018/02/19	01:03:11	marcus_of_augustus	->	infofront
2018/02/18	11:55:12	MICRO	->	aleksej996
2018/02/18	11:37:58	hurricandave	->	sidehack
2018/02/17	21:38:55	mindrust	->	Royse777
2018/02/16	19:52:18	BayAreaCoins	->	dooglus
2018/02/16	13:50:44	hrbt	->	xiao2017
2018/02/15	22:25:07	1369	->	TrollCoins
2018/02/15	22:23:49	1369	->	AllarDallar
2018/02/15	22:23:17	1369	->	youngwebs
2018/02/15	21:15:19	hrbt	->	masstahcoiner
2018/02/15	18:01:31	talatk	->	pitipawn
2018/02/15	12:39:25	Alondre	->	Evil-Knievel
2018/02/15	12:26:38	schnF6tzel	->	Evil-Knievel
2018/02/15	10:00:49	Gizfreak	->	EverGreenCoin
2018/02/15	02:22:26	Decoded	->	JetCash
2018/02/14	20:39:37	narousberg	->	D3Pool
2018/02/14	16:33:51	hrbt	->	cryptoworld2017
2018/02/13	16:05:06	AbraxasCcs	->	analema
2018/02/13	00:49:17	oblox	->	FrozenChaos
2018/02/12	07:56:30	goraset	->	the_doctor
2018/02/11	18:29:21	oblox	->	Herbert2020
2018/02/11	13:41:07	Bittzy78	->	kaptkrunch
2018/02/10	15:14:57	naypalm	->	GameKyuubi
2018/02/09	19:23:07	chickenado	->	Chachacoin17
2018/02/09	18:59:34	thend1949	->	Chachacoin17
2018/02/09	11:41:41	marcuslong	->	Chachacoin17
2018/02/09	11:10:45	CasinoBetGame	->	TheBobyHunter
2018/02/08	21:48:01	s1lverbox	->	Arczimedes
2018/02/08	20:34:13	Jasad	->	fine99
2018/02/08	02:20:58	Chase	->	DNotes
2018/02/07	23:59:58	e1ghtSpace	->	chrysophylax
2018/02/07	16:52:11	oxilore	->	negeroy
2018/02/07	14:46:30	RHavar	->	devans
2018/02/07	06:52:01	sonerbo	->	whisee
2018/02/07	01:05:40	DNotes	->	Dyna
2018/02/06	16:55:22	MICRO	->	EnF0Rc3r
2018/02/06	13:56:43	Lyricz	->	scaramanga1337
2018/02/06	11:13:26	pinkmanfreespirit	->	hkdfgkdf
2018/02/05	14:49:29	Jonesd	->	romanornr
2018/02/05	13:51:53	TwinWinNerD	->	BitPanda.com
2018/02/05	05:45:52	Twinscoin2017	->	Ronaldcoin2017
2018/02/05	01:51:24	shapeshiftscam	->	RichDaniel
2018/02/04	23:02:59	bitkilo	->	zazarb

Topic: Merit stat & all transactions more than 40 Merits (Read 1576 times)