Topic: Meta's no ads subscription and gambling disorder. (Read 360 times)

In a way, I think it will help to reduce gambling disorderly behaviour because people are influenced by what they see and what they hear. But come to think of it, Meta's subscription free ads is also for their own gains.

Let's no forget that Meta is the parent company of Facebook and Instagram and If they could censored instagram, so that Bitcoin promoted posts are deleted from the platform. They can as well as easily do same on Facebook by giving users the option to whether or not accept gambling ads, but they won't do that because their pocket comes first.

Even this thing is really that a small concern but still it could really be a great effect into those people who are really that nearly getting addicted with gambling or simply they are still on a state on which they are really that much trying to avoid to gamble as much as possible.These ads would really be that pesky if they would continue to show up even if its no needed. Its true that this one would really be entirely be depending
on a certain individual whether he would really be spending out some bucks on trying out to get rid of those pesky ads specially if you do know that you are on the healing process or something that do talks about
trying out to avoid gambling. Its normal that SEO thing works basing up on the history of you are really that surfing on the net on which there's no way that those recommendations or ads
would shown out.

Its not already shocking in speaking about negative words or criticism on such manner on where people do really love to throw out some words without even trying to
understand on whats the real deal or function that it has. Its not mandatory but rather than an option on which we arent really that forced on doing so.
Somewhat you wont really be able to spend up something if you could eventually avoid for yourself or you are discipline on what you are currently doing.

It's a matter of choice, some people don't really like seeing ads when they are using their social media, so they will rather pay to block those ads. But to me, I wont pay for the package, it's really of no use to me. Even if the amount is kind of small, I would rather use the money for other things. The gambling advertisement doesn't affect me in any way, and I'm cool with using social media and displaying the ads. I don't know the kind of disorder that's going to be caused by gambling ads, if I don't want to gamble, I won't, no matter the ads I see.

I already have gambling sites which I do gamble on, and I don't really make use of all the new gambling sites out there, so even when I come across all those gambling sites on social media, I don't even try to use them, I only use trusted gambling sites, so seeing their ads won't make me try those gambling sites, I just skip them and move on to the next video.

That €9.99/month means a lot for someone who lives in a third-world country like me, it's much easier to ignore these ads than pay €9.99/month it is not yet implemented in my country but I doubt many will subscribe to this plan, I'm good at annoying ads so I have no use of that plan the people who will likely avail of this
besides we have the option to prefer what kinds of ads we want to see if we don't want gambling ads to show up there's also a preference to hide it.
I believe the first social media platform that implemented this was Youtube, by paying a monthly plan you can watch videos without those annoying ads.

I think clearing the cache and history will not help to remove gambling advertisements that often appear on our social media. As long as the WiFi used has been used to search for gambling, we will definitely be affected when we use the same WiFi. If I'm not mistaken, there are other ways to delete it. The ad is because the system stores all our search data according to the WiFi we use too.

Previously I had never seen gambling advertisements but since my friend came to my house looking for gambling sites and showed them to me, suddenly I often saw gambling advertisements on my social media whether it was on Facebook or Instagram, that's why I was more active on Twitter because there weren't too many of them. gambling ads that I found there while I was browsing. it's better to use another method than having to pay for the subscription.

It all depends on the user. If they don't mind seeing advertisements on their homepage, they don't need to complain about them to Facebook, but it is Facebook's job to try to provide relevant advertisements to its users. Some people may want to pay a subscription fee without ads, but I don't want to pay that subscription fee because I don't mind if there are ads on my home page. Besides, I could ignore the ad and wouldn't be interested in ads, let alone gambling ads. Reducing disorderly gambling behavior depends on each person so that if they see a gambling advertisement on the Facebook homepage, they can ignore it and will not be tempted to visit the casino site. But many people are still tempted and end up pressing the link and being directed to the casino. From there, they started playing gambling and discovered that there was something different because they used money to play gambling games.

The only one paying for that is those parents who want their child to stay away on gambling, but any other than this for sure regular people will not give a damn paying for something that not useful to them. And I don't see anything in need for paying since for me its fine if we can see gambling ads or not since it all matter for those people who see if they would try what they see or simply ignore those videos that been promoted by social media influencers. Subscription fee is really high so for that for sure many people would think twice availing that since for sure they will just use their money on other thing that has sense to them rather paying those subscription on a social media sites which they can't actually use.

Reducing gambling activities can be learn thru experiences or advices so its really up for a person on how he gonna take what they see on internet.

To me, it's not fair to ban gambling ads when other potentially harmful products like alcohol and tobacco are still allowed to be advertised. I have few questions to ask concerning this by the way, If people can choose to block certain types of ads, where does it end? Could people start blocking other types of content like political ads or ads for specific brands? And who gets to decide what content can be blocked? What I see here is just a way for these social media platforms to make more money at the detriment of these gambling platforms. Stopping these ads will not have much effect on those who have already developed gambling disorder because they are not gambling with the influence of these ads. It will only be of help to those who are still new in the system. Absolutely a waste of money to subscribe for it.

You say this like it's very easy for them,
It's just easy for you to say because you've never been there, people who have this gambling disorder doesn't think about nothing else other than gambling, sometimes I don't even know if they normally do an evaluation of how much they've lost on the course of gambling, always interested in how much they stand to gain and that makes them blind to the risks involved in it.

It's really not easy as you say it, it would only take self discipline and self control to escape such a disaster.

 And what if they also rely on those social media apps for possible predictions and informations on good chances of winning, do you think it would be easy for them to just avoid those social media apps? I guess not. So it's really not as easy as you just put it.

It's actually been very easy to avoid any adverts on these platforms for a long time via the many advertising blockers out there which you can install on your browser, without having to pay any sort of subscription. Considering Youtube, after decades, has only just figured out how to block such users it is very unlikely that Facebook and similar have clocked on to it either. I don't use Facebook much, but would imagine that gambling ads are fairly restricted and not really wanted by Facebook, as they draw in too much unnecessary scrutiny from regulators. Things like games with add-ons and upgrades already draw in enough money from susceptible users that they don't need to push the boundaries.

Every platform is moving on subscription model. For example, there are so many ads on Youtube that it's hard to see the footage. Btw I think that this subscription model that gets rid of advertisement will have a negative affect on advertisers because they won't be able to reach to their full audience or will miss some good customers.

Casinos are allowed to advertise on Facebook only under their prior permission - https://transparency.fb.com/en-gb/policies/ad-standards/content-specific-restrictions/gambling/

Hahaha, you really made my day 

These companies is really just trying to rake out money as much as they could or as possible as they could and since they do have the full rights on what should really be integrated on the site then so be it.
Somehow this is really just that optional and really just that relevant for those people who are really that addicted to gambling then they would really be finding this to be useful. Spending or paying up
10 bucks a month would really be that something to be considered. It is really just that there are really people who are really that skeptical on spending even if its cheap because they do really have
that kind of feeling about being robbed or simply they are been abused. lol

Its optional and its true that you would most likely be able to gamble again if you are an addicted person knowing that nowadays we do really love on hanging out or visiting Facebook and other social
media on which it is really just that good that ads on related to gambling should really be cut out if you are really that serious on quitting.
Of course it wont really be that guaranteed effective but at least you have done something against it.

To be honest, just clean your cache and history browser.

Should be gone for the ads about gambling, since we all know (ads) are based of our activity. If most the ads about gambling, that's mean we always search it the only things is to just make restriction.

Pay around 1000 Euro/years for these. Heck no.

9.99–12.99 a month? That's absurd. So Meta is creating their own problems and then asking the users to pay in order to fix the problem. Just marvalous. I understand that Meta's big revenue comes from ad campaigns. But despite that, users should have some control over which types of ads they want to see. If I were in your shoes, I would have stooped using Facebook and Instagram. They do nothing but waste our time. How much money do they need? They are already selling our informations.

people in recent months have constantly talked about gambling in a negative way but forget to mention the positive side of gambling, let's look at this forum, particularly in this section, we are in a gambling section, in which there are many casinos who came to advertise on this forum and also the casinos hired many members to participate in their signature campaigns. So I ask:

How many people who participate in casino signature campaigns are addicted to gambling?

Could it be that because we have many casinos on this forum, we also have thousands of people addicted to gambling because of the forum?

From what I see every day on this forum, people who participate in casino signature campaigns have never said that they have become addicted to gambling, so I assume that we don't have gambling addicts because of the campaign signatures related to casinos on the forum. So why can't you see casino advertising on Facebook and Instagram? There's nothing wrong with casinos. People have the brain to decide what is good or bad for them. I see some people saying that casinos shouldn't have advertising on Facebook and Instagram because they would be a bad influence on people

But let's look at Facebook and Instagram, what is moral and ethical on Facebook and Instagram? half - naked people and something good? on Instagram it has become normal for women to be almost naked and people don't criticize that, but they criticize casinos. I ask: is it a good influence for children to watch Instagram and Facebook? Are Instagram and Facebook good influences for people? In my opinion, they are not a good influence. In my opinion, casinos should not be banned from paying for advertising on social media

My teacher? Well, it's good that Facebook has such an option for those in the EU. It's a matter of choice here, so those who don't want to see ads can just sacrifice the money and pay the ads off for themselves. But another question that I have to ask is: is it only the EU that has the permission to pay for this ADS-free service for Facebook and Instagram? Because they are not the only people who might need to get a ride from such advertisements.
 
Left to me alone, I don't see gambling ads as something that can make me gamble when I don't want to gamble, and secondly, how many hours of the day do I even spend on social media on a daily basis that I can be seeing those ads often? Few times that I have seen ads on Facebook while streaming videos, there is always a warning before the ad display starts, so anyone who doesn't want to view ads can just close the window or stop doing whatever they are doing for that moment, and the ads won't be forced to view on their account.

That's a great way to earn more revenue for Meta. Though I agree that the subscription can be useful for some people, especially those who find ads annoying and can afford to pay that much to get rid of them, I don't think someone would pay money to avoid seeing gambling ads just because that might make them gamble after seeing that. So, the subscription isn't mainly for people to avoid gambling or gaming ads but it is so that they can have a seamless experience.

And as far as I know, gambling related services and gambling ads were not allowed on Meta, and if this thing was specifically for this purpose, they could just increase the restrictions and filter gambling and gambling related ads from the platform and also close down the pages promoting gambling.

On the one hand, I really don’t like intrusive advertising, but on the other hand, I well understand developers who are forced to introduce advertising to monetize their products. Personally, I am not ready to pay money to disable advertising, no matter what it is. I really find some products useful, so I try to watch advertisements. But this does not apply to products from the META company, because... they only took away my free time and I completely abandoned them.

AFAIK, you will only receive gambling related ads if you view gambling related content on your wall or when you search it by yourself. I never encounter any gambling ads on both facebook and instagram because I’m not interested on viewing that content. I believe erasing your search history and unfollowing gambling related content will save you from ads instead of paying this kind of fee.

Facebook use smart ads targeting to distribute ads to user that shows interest on it. I only saw gambling ads on my youtube account since I watch gambling highlights in there frequently.

My thoughts is I agree on what you way about people being able to feel craving for gambling if can pay their way out of it. But to be honest, I also need to say that fee is too high for people living in the developing world, which is quite a problem since people suffering from gambling addiction while living in those countries may be those who need the most to avoid being triggered by advertisement on Facebook and Telegram.

Also, as far as I understand big technological companies like Google, Facebook and Microsoft give you the option to opt out the customized ads, so one as user will only receive generic ones, that may be an option for problem gamblers who are struggling with whatever they see while trying to fine good reels on Instagram.

Here I found a short tutorial on how to do it, not sure whether it is still posible or not, though

https://www.wikihow.com/Stop-Targeted-Ads-on-Instagram

I have no problem with the ads and I will not opt to subscribe because there is no need if you can ignore all these ads and concentrate on the topics that you are interested in in your feeds, you are a chronic gambler if you are easily attracted to gambling banners which I am not.

We all know we are the product on social media because they are selling ads for projects like gambling and besides there is an option to hide or control those ads so you will only see what kind of ads you want to see in your feeds.

Read this article to learn more
Control the Ads You See

I love how you have written this very clearly. I would say that from my personal opinion if your Facebook account is not for business purposes or Instagram account for business purposes there is no need for you to be on that platform because you would be very unproductive just scrolling and scrolling and scrolling. As for the money required to pay to stop seeing gambling ads I feel that this is a rip-off. People shouldn't have to pay for something they do not want to see rather they should be given the option of clicking yes I want to see this ad or no I do not want to continue seeing this ad it would cost nothing. Summarily, any gambler whose business isn't on Facebook, Instagram or any other social media should rather they the hell away from them than pay this rip off.

Those who are outside those countries are just going to keep resisting the temptation of those ads. They could avoid social media if they want, but these days everyone is on Facebook.  It's like you live in isolation if you are not found on facebook and the majority of the people today are relying on social media for the daily news.

However, even if they live in EU, EEA, and Switzerland there are still videos on facebook where gambling-related ads are hard coded. There are subtitles that provide links to casinos. These are hardcore combatant spammers.

As far as I know, Meta generally generates overall revenue from advertising. Even though Meta announced this, it doesn't apply to the whole, it only applies to the EU, EEA and Switzerland.
As far as I know, these are the points:

No impact, those of us who live outside the EU, EEA, and Switzerland, still see gambling advertisements, on a large scale.

Even though the new rules will be implemented by Meta in March 2024, several countries have already taken firm action against META.
For example:

So in my opinion, the META rules will not run smoothly, the ad will still run, unless: do as I quoted above.

The amount of people who will subscribe to this will be so very low, not enough to have an impact on anything. The only way they can push the amount of subscribers higher is degregating the free users experience, but im not sure they are willing to do that. Because lets keep in mind that the average age of a facebook user is quite high. Instagram is younger ofc but i have never had issues with ads on those platforms.

Indeed, at this time related to the advertisement of legal and illegal gambling sites, it is quite troubling for social media users, especially Facebook users because on the social media page there are quite a lot of such advertisements. but unfortunately they not only display their gambling advertisements on special pages, but to trick the social media managers, they often paste the gambling site logo in short videos that are spread on social media and I have seen a video lecture plastered with gambling site logos. And this is often done by illegal gambling sites, which are not responsible.

I really hope that this kind of behavior must be taken seriously by the social media management. Because I am also an active user of social media and feel quite uneasy about this.

Jesus Christ I thought you were going to pay Meta to remove gambling ads solely, turns out it was all ads. Nonetheless, I don't think it's anything good, honestly, ad removals were only made a thing because the way ads were presented (especially in yt's case) was (and it still is) obnoxious to the point that it ruined user experience, which it should not have. If you really want to turn off gambling adverts, just don't use Facebook lmao. The place is a shithole of nothing anyway, pretty sure you can afford to stop using it (and you can still use messenger if needed really).

There's also the option of using adblockers. They're pretty useful and usually up to date, just have to find the right one. I use uBlock origin and never really had issues.

Advertisements ain't just the problem anymore. A lot of content creators are directly advertising the gambling games and websites in their videos (mostly in the end) which means there's no way you could block it. I think Facebook should also be strict about this. There are people who are trying to get away from their gambling addiction and there are kids who are using these applications in this era. They may want to add another security measure by blocking the uploads of those content creators who put gambling inside their clips.
What will be the use of paying those ad blockers if we cannot escape them due to the fact that it's injected inside the clip? They won't get any subscribers of that blocker if that is the case.

These social media platforms are becoming wiser these days. Before, we didn't want to see ads and we had no option but to view those ads they'll make money from the viewership they get from their audiences like you and me and this is how they are actually earning from the platform, and that's our task and that's to view their ads for their metrics, statistics, and analytics to show for their advertisers.

Now with this offer, it's like a YouTube subscription that you'll have to pay on a monthly basis so that you'll have no ads on your feed or wall. It's actually a business strategy for most of the platforms now so they make money from those users that don't want to view ads through subscriptions. Still, they also earn money from those who don't want to pay because they'll still view ads from their sponsors or advertisers.

But I am thinking of the brighter side that if it's going to be helpful for a gambler who's dealing with hardship because he/she sees left and right ads about gambling because that's how they work, algorithm. They know our interest, they know the websites and cookies that we've got so in short, they'll just send us with a blast of ads that are also part of our interest.

I don't wanna cut the fun but since I am not from those regions and even I am part of it, I'll not do it. We just need to be responsible gamblers and no matter what you are up to, in the end, it's always you that shall avoid these temptations that you need to overcome.

I don't want to pay any subscription fees to Facebook and will let the ads appear. We as users, can still control the advertisements that will be displayed. We can also report the advertisements to Facebook if they are not relevant so that Facebook can start filtering them. Facebook should be able to listen to complaints from its users, especially if the advertisements have started to annoy them and many of its users don't want to pay the subscription fee.

This is about how people react to the ads they see while using Facebook. Reporting the ads to Facebook can help users filter the ads as well. If you want to reduce interference or gambling advertisements, cooperation is needed from all parties and not just from the provider. But is Facebook ready to filter the advertisements it displays to its users?

According to the OP, which you either haven't read or haven't understood:


Although I would be cautious about the results of a single study. In the end many people who have addictions have to learn how to get out of them despite the possible triggers that are everywhere. Like ex-alcoholics who stop drinking for the rest of their lives: they see advertisements for drinking, people drinking, alcoholic drinks when they go to the supermarket, etc.

I think it is important to note that the no-ads subscription is not just for people who have gambling disorders. It is for anyone who wants to avoid advertising on Facebook and Instagram. This could include people who are trying to reduce their spending, people who are trying to improve their mental health, or people who simply don't want to see ads. I wonder how effective the no-ads subscription will be in reducing gambling disorder. It is possible that some people may still be able to find ways to gamble even if they are not seeing ads on Facebook and Instagram. I am also interested to see how popular the no-ads subscription will be. Is it worth the price for people?

Personally, in my opinion, the advertisements on META will not have any influence on me, sometimes I see IG and FB often showing lots of gambling advertisements and lots of people complain about it, I just realized that for some reason lately social media META has a lot of gambling advertisements which are often displayed, sometimes dangerous if seen by underage children, different from Twitter, that's why I prefer playing social media on Twitter rather than IG or FB where there are lots of gambling advertisements.

I think the package will also be useful for people who are capable and feel unsure about controlling themselves, but personally, rather than buying the package, I would rather use it for gambling because I also gamble on weekends for an amount that is not much different from the amount of expenses. In that package, the point is that addicts should not play on social media if they don't want to be influenced and feel unsure about controlling themselves. For me, that's just a normal thing.

For me personally, I try to use Instagram and Facebook as little as possible on my phone. For facebook speficially there are some open source apps like Frost for android that try to hide ads, but really its very hard to hide the ads on the mobile version as its the main source of Facebook's income.

Facebook really doesn't care if you're an addict, it'll play to your addiction just to earn more from advertisers. Oftentimes they're even caught advertising outright scams and they do nothing about it...

So my advice would be to uninstall Instagram and Facebook apps from your phone. Tell your friends to reach you via an application that doesn't and will never have ads like Signal. If you have to use Facebook and Instagram for work do it via a browser on personal computer.

And use these tools to hide ads:


uBlock Origin hides ads on all sites including Instagram. Just install the browser extension
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock

FBPurity hides ads as well as many annoyances as recommended posts from Facebook. Install it as a browser extension or user script
https://www.fbpurity.com/

I blocked all social media and their advertising networks from my hosts file. The internet is much better without them.

Meta's new ad-free subscription for Facebook and Instagram is pretty cool I think. It could be a game changer for people struggling with gambling issues triggered by ads. And there are researches that back this up which I think makes it credible to say that exposure to betting ads increases the likelihood of gambling disorders. By giving users the option to pay a monthly fee to avoid ads, Meta might help individuals gamble more responsibly. But cant it be free? Making this feature free to  audience could enhance its impact. It's a step in the right direction and addressing a real problem but finding ways to ensure everyone can benefit from it would be key to its success.

after I understand several times from the contents of this thread it seems only about paying an anti ad subscription to exclude myself from gambling advertisements via social media and for me there is no need to pay just to stop gambling like when I try to buy a new phone and I use it as usual but without access related to gambling and I have never seen gambling advertisements on social media that are on my new phone. so paying social media to stop advertising is very ridiculous to me and there are many other ways to stop advertising on your social media accounts.

and related to gambling disorders or such as the negative impact of becoming addicted, actually it depends on each gambler, even if they pay weekly or monthly to stop gambling advertisements, but in the gambler mind they still have the desire to gamble, its the same as just throwing away money. so it all comes back to each gambler.

Maybe he is a copycat. You know that Elon Musk started paid subscription in two countries recently or so, Mark may just want to copy him as they are like competitors.

I will use the €9.99 to €19.99 to gamble instead  . In my country, that is not small amount of money, but I can still use it to gamble to have some fun as my weekly income is far more than that.

Why would Musk want to exploit the weakness of his social media platforms users to make extra money for his already billionaire status. What are the gains the Facebook and Instagram community are gaining from the use of his platforms - the rich are with the inclination of getting richer and making the poor poorer by using every means to suck the little they have.

If I know I have a gambling disorder I'll just have to stay away from using the FB and IG platforms just like @z390 said, and instead use that €9.99 or €12.99 to look for somewhere I can go catch some fun at a pleasure park. These ads were ought to be a thing of choice for users to choose to see or avoid them but now a business man wants to start making money from it making the choice a monetary one, how ridiculous.

Peak consumerism in action, people are so scared of ads and at how annoying they are that companies are using that frustration as a way to make money for themselves and give you the convenience of not seeing ads because people are so scared of ads that it might influence them. Also, wouldn't this be a useless thing anyway because you're going to see content creators having their own in-video ads that directly pays them? Regarding less gambling ads that might influence gamblers or make recovering gambling addicts relapse, I believe in the power of advertising and I believe that this might moderately reduce the people that will try gambling or anything of the like.

Yes.


The problem isn't someone who promote it, but the biggest problem is Mark Zuckerberg and his team has very low action to monitor illegal stuff posted in their platforms! the addicted gamblers also has a problem for not able to control themselves.

Imagine the addicted gamblers subscribe the no ads feature, do you think it will stop them to read user that promoting gambling ads? nope, those users will promote it through reply or personal message lol, they're creative.

If you have gambling disorder why not stay off Facebook and other social media platforms? Is it a must for them or what? As for the subscription requirement that'd ridiculous, it's not a once time fee thing but monthly renewal? To hell with Facebook and Instagram, I don't even have an account on Facebook and the reason why I used Instagram was for some advert assignment and this was years ago, I won't dare pay a penny to any social media if I am not making money off them.

The sub is good for those who are monetizing the platform, if not then it makes no sense, I thought that Instagram have already ban everything related to casino and crypto, maybe I read wrong, it's crazy that people can come across gambling ads and decide to go back into gambling, like they don't work on me, I easily ignore any gambling ads that I come across without thinking about them twice.

If you are addicted to gambling you should just stop using any platform that supports gambling ads and promotions, go back to the real world and spend countless time with your friends and family, if making money is why you get addicted to gambling you should start learning a new skill.

Aren't gambling ads banned on Instagram and Facebook? It's surprising to me that gambling ads are still allowed on FB and IG.
I read the forum blackhatworld.com where some people say that it is possible to run gambling ads on Facebook, but it is very difficult and the possibility of the ads getting rejected is high.
If I was a gambling addict, I would avoid social media completely(assuming that gambling ads are allowed). There's no point for me wasting a monthly fee on a "no ads" subscription. There are multiple social media accounts, who promote gambling via their content. There's no way to avoid them, if you are active on social media. The algorithms will put their posts in your feed sooner or later.

I can never pay any social media money, be it meta or X for Elon Musk. What I am gaining from the this forum with gambling signature campaigs, I can not gain it from those meta social media, but I still prefer X. But nonetheless I can not pay for subscription on those social media. But on social media that belongs to Mark Zuckerberg, I have not been using them and I see them not useful for me than to make me not to have a private life.


For people that pay for the subscription, not that the ads are removed. Nothing changed because most people will use the social media with ads.

Before now it was impossible to avoid advertisment on Facebook and Instagram.This has made it impossible for gamblers to avoid advert even when they have used control the ads options. Now Meta is giving users in the EU, EEA and Switzerland the choice to pay a monthly subscription to use Facebook and Instagram  without any ads. This special account can come for as high as €9.99/month on the web or €12.99/month on iOS and Android. Users can get this account this month and enjoy the package  

Although the subscription fees is high to some low income nations but I think it can held to reduce gambling disorderly behaviour. Some gamers are triggered to gamble uncontrollable because of advertisment so this package will help them gamble responsibly. According to a study carried out by Sheffield and Glasgow universities the more people are exposed to betting advertisment the more likely they are to gamble and the greater the risk of them developing a disorder. This package is also helpful because it will make gamblers avoid adverts from many scam casinos that are using these social media as platforms which will also reduce gambling disorder.

What are your thoughts?