Topic: Mexican drug war - 60,000 dead, 26,000 missing in 6 years (Read 627 times)

agree with you, because too many people have been killed from 2006 to 2012 due to drug-related violence. perhaps one way to stop this situation is drug legalizaiton

That's an incredibly insensitive sort of thing to say.

Obviously you don't know any of the people in question.

Google 'Juarez women murders' for a start.  And don't think for a moment that Trump does not know this stuff.

decapitations, killings and kidnappings this is like watching a gory horror movie. the sad truth is that the high level of corruption Mexican allowed these criminal enterprises to grow to a level were they are now a very real threat to the stability of the country as a whole.

Well those numbers seem horrible. It is not wonder that it is not recommended to travel to Mexico without caution, especially to some regions.
According to Wikipedia earnings from illicit drug sales range from $13 to $49 billion annually. That's quite a lot of money, and it seems like the Mexican forces haven't done any real impact on this.
The number of deaths seems to be on the rise:

Are you fucking joking?

From 20,000 feet there is no difference between Juarez and El Paso - that's the same all along the border. 

These are integrated mega-communities separated by some artificial legal constructs.  The peoples' families are on both sides.  They are US and we are THEM.

I'm not sure that's saying it right exactly....

The crazy part is that there are way more people dying because of drug trafficking than actual drug use.
Drugs: safe to use, lethal to deal. Colorado is showing the way, it will be followed.

I happened to hear Trump give a talk on this matter, and my impression was that he understands the complexity of the entire problem quite well.  My impression is that you do not. 

However, you are correct that a lot of "right wingers" who think a simple fence would work would line up and support Trump.  But that's no reason to think he's got such a viewpoint. 

The extortion, prostitution, and gambling is on the Mexican side of the border. Why do you care about that?

Drugs are but one facet of the cartels' web. They are into extortion, prostitution, gambling, smuggling, etc. If drugs are legalized they will merely shift into another area.

If you were truly serious about ending the Mexican drug cartels power then you should be pro-drug legalization. Eliminate the black market, you eliminate their purse strings. At least it's a real start, not just hot air to fuel racist rants.

You obviously agree with Trump that these many, many Mexican deaths and disappearances are a "good start" and will cut down on the rapists, murderers, etc. coming into the U.S. illegally from Mexico.

What right-wingers fail to understand is that the tremendous amounts of money made by drug cartels from narcotic sales in the U.S. will not be given up without a fight. This means a barrier like the Berlin Wall would be needed to just slow them down, stopping them is impossible. How many conservatives and neoconservatives would be willing to pay the massive expenses needed to build and maintain border security of this magnitude?

Congressional Republicans can't agree which segment of the population to steal the money from necessary to maintain the highway system. The highways are a major tool of the very rich and Big Business, used by them to maximize profits. If the House AND Senate Republicans have allowed themselves to disappoint their political benefactors for so long on this issue, they will have no qualms about ignoring the pleas of the conservatives and neoconservatives when it comes to border security. (Also forgotten by the right wing, the GOP does NOT want to cut off the source of cheap labor their friends in Big Agriculture, and others, need to keep profits growing.)

Throw into the mix that the border security demanded by the right-wingers is just too expensive for what it might accomplish. After all, how many members of the one percent or corporate officers are touched personally by violence caused by the murderers and rapists Trump mentions?

Only insignificant citizens (you know, America's working class) are affected, the important Americans are beyond the reach of the criminals from south-of-the-border. The Donald knows this, and like other Republican politicians, is simply building on the right-wingers' own fear, using it against them to gain their support. As if the conservatives and neoconservatives were not already afraid of their own shadows.

The flood of drugs through the region maintains a cheap labour pool as well yes.

Ain't that the truth. If it weren't for the drugs and dirt - cheap labor, they would've sealed that southern border. I know I would've.

The pc world is more concerned about where their coke supply will come from, so they keep quiet about the wars in mexico, it's called conflict resources, the west ends up getting the cheapest prices so long as war prevails

American policy at its finest.

They were killed by Mexican gang members, many of whom come across the border illegally to sell drugs or purchase weapons.

But the PC side is more worried about alleged "racism" than the actual body count, and ease by which the gangsters sneak into the US

People that agree with Trump will say those tens-of-thousands of dead and missing Mexicans are a good start.

We wouldn't want to be too PC and believe some of the dead and missing were innocent by-standers, would we?

                 


More than 60,000 people have been killed from 2006 to 2012 due to drug-related violence, during former Mexican President Felipe Calderon's six-year administration, according to Human Rights Watch. During that same six year period, 26,121 people have gone missing in Mexico, though authorities don't have data about how many of the disappearances are connected with organized crime.

Since December 1, 2012 when Enrique Peña Nieto assumed the presidency, overall intentional homicide numbers have declined slightly, but the number of reported kidnappings continues to climb.

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Just for perspective, that's about 4X as were killed by ISIS last year, and more than 10X the number of Americans who died in Iraq.

Sadly the PC pushers are more concerned about Donald Trump making an insensitive comment about "Mexicans" than about these gang members sneaking across the boarder and waging their war on our shores.