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Topic: 🐭 Micerace.com - Bet on REAL mice racing, in real-time. (Read 960 times)

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I read the title, and then had to read it again before I finally caught on that someone was crazy enough to do something like this.

I just could see in the headlines "Bitcoin causes Mice animal abuse"

Anyways the issue I see here aside from the quality is proving whether this is fair and actually streamed live. Because like the poster a few replies has stated, its very difficult to prove whether its recorded in the past and played "live" or is it actually live.

Maybe you can have on the monitor some actual BTC transaction hashes on the same screen as the races to prove its indeed live.
As long those mice arent in danger or in good shape then i dont see for it to be abusive.Its being used on gambling purposes but this leaves no harm on said animals.
About the recording thing i do agree with your idea about BTC transaction because this will really give out confidence on betting because pre-recorded events is always be on questioned.

legendary
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I read the title, and then had to read it again before I finally caught on that someone was crazy enough to do something like this.

I just could see in the headlines "Bitcoin causes Mice animal abuse"

Anyways the issue I see here aside from the quality is proving whether this is fair and actually streamed live. Because like the poster a few replies has stated, its very difficult to prove whether its recorded in the past and played "live" or is it actually live.

Maybe you can have on the monitor some actual BTC transaction hashes on the same screen as the races to prove its indeed live.
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I've got to say, this is a pretty cool idea and I've never even thought about something like this. I'm not sure about one thing. People will play bets depending on their luck? I mean how can you possibly know why rat will win the race if they are all the same and anyone could do it? Are there any statistics, any information about the mices? Or is it completely randomly and based on luck?
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This is one the crazies, yet the coolest stuff I've ever seen in the Gambling section  Grin Grin Grin

I will wait to made a "Mice form" pages available before each race and I will rest it for sure.
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What? How would I ensure that the race is actually being live telecast? It may always be a recorded one, where results are already known to you. How this type of a setup be provably fair?

Ok so we tell you Mice racing live and that's your first reaction? You must be fun at parties  Tongue

Nevertheless the concern is real and it is indeed something that could be triggered in several ways.
Best would be for OP to implant a live chat during the race, where people could ask you to write a word on a paper then you show paper on the camera and it would prove it's live recording.
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We do have plans to give them all identities and their own statistics pages and profiles, but that would take some time

But this is absolutely necessary to do. Gamblers, especially those who prefer sports betting, are crazy about doing at least a little research on the team/player they are going to bet on.

Also I agree with other posters regarding the video quality, it definitely should be better. Another important thing imo is finding a way of showing to gamblers that the race is taking place in real time.
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I would say the mice does look huge and it is pretty funny and entertaining to watch when they are running in the tunnel, but the waiting time to start a new round does take quite a while and I guess maybe it does requires a lot of time for the staff to catch the mice back and allocate them into a different slot for the next round.

I can't remember seeing this thread ever before and why is this not a more popular thread? I do read that animal rights concerns already brought up and I must say that while it can probably never be made real or proper, from the videos it does not seem like they are leading a tortured life. Hopefully they are always kept fed and happy. Anyway the world forces dogs and horses to run every day so it is not so much different for mice.

More to the point, organise something like a proper event for us gamblers, so we can participate more too. The history of the mouse and caretakers and things like that. Like horses too you can learn a lot about their style and breed and way they are groomed etc.

Nice thread, will keep track:)

Thanks for the positive feedback. We have no reason to not keep them fed and happy.

Could you elaborate on the "proper event" suggestion?

We do have plans to give them all identities and their own statistics pages and profiles, but that would take some time
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I would say the mice does look huge and it is pretty funny and entertaining to watch when they are running in the tunnel, but the waiting time to start a new round does take quite a while and I guess maybe it does requires a lot of time for the staff to catch the mice back and allocate them into a different slot for the next round.

I can't remember seeing this thread ever before and why is this not a more popular thread? I do read that animal rights concerns already brought up and I must say that while it can probably never be made real or proper, from the videos it does not seem like they are leading a tortured life. Hopefully they are always kept fed and happy. Anyway the world forces dogs and horses to run every day so it is not so much different for mice.

More to the point, organise something like a proper event for us gamblers, so we can participate more too. The history of the mouse and caretakers and things like that. Like horses too you can learn a lot about their style and breed and way they are groomed etc.

Nice thread, will keep track:)
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I would say the mice does look huge and it is pretty funny and entertaining to watch when they are running in the tunnel, but the waiting time to start a new round does take quite a while and I guess maybe it does requires a lot of time for the staff to catch the mice back and allocate them into a different slot for the next round.
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We have a lot planned for identifying each of them and providing them with profile pages, stats, etc. but introducing that would require us to gather much more data to ensure that we can provide fair and accurate odds and statistics.
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Haven't seen fresh idea in a while Grin

I just wonder if each mice have it's profile with information, such as :
1. Race history
2. Common info (species, genus, etc.)
2. Specification (weight, height, etc.)
How can you make sure that list would be legit? There would be practically no means of verifying it. Imagine, OP listing out all the winner mice as the losers and the other way around, then people would just blindly bet on the winning mice considering the given information is true. That would be cheating. Btw it's just a mice run and human Olympics.
And also it would really be hassle to list out those very small details. Its important but as said how can we verify it if those info given are legit ones.? Its not relevant actually.
Well, if they really want to make that happen on blockchain using provable fairness mechanism, they can! For instance, every mice is categorized with a unique bitcoin address and whenever that mic wins a race, some token amount of money is sent to that address. Ideally, the bitcoin with the high balance is an obvious winner more times.
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Haven't seen fresh idea in a while Grin

I just wonder if each mice have it's profile with information, such as :
1. Race history
2. Common info (species, genus, etc.)
2. Specification (weight, height, etc.)
How can you make sure that list would be legit? There would be practically no means of verifying it. Imagine, OP listing out all the winner mice as the losers and the other way around, then people would just blindly bet on the winning mice considering the given information is true. That would be cheating. Btw it's just a mice run and human Olympics.
And also it would really be hassle to list out those very small details. Its important but as said how can we verify it if those info given are legit ones.? Its not relevant actually.
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Haven't seen fresh idea in a while Grin

I just wonder if each mice have it's profile with information, such as :
1. Race history
2. Common info (species, genus, etc.)
2. Specification (weight, height, etc.)
How can you make sure that list would be legit? There would be practically no means of verifying it. Imagine, OP listing out all the winner mice as the losers and the other way around, then people would just blindly bet on the winning mice considering the given information is true. That would be cheating. Btw it's just a mice run and human Olympics.
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Good that you have uploaded a demo of the game. Another suggestion would be adding a high-quality camera inside the mice racing chamber. Right now, it seems like the race is been shot using a CCTV and doesn't really give that high quality. There is a constant lag in the broadcast as well. This is a complicated project man. i hope it pays back.
This is what i have observed too on the video which is indeed on poor quality or been taking out not so clear.It would be better if it shows as you suggested. This isnt a complicated
project if it would be done or execute correctly with corresponding basic needed set-up.I dont see for it to be rigged the thing i do like to see is all 4 mice would run when the door opens like putting a food on the end
for them to run.Its quiet boring if 2-3 of them wont run and just stick out to their place.lol

We have some issues with the stream quality but are working on improvements and have ordered some new things. It may seem simple but with moving parts and live animals, it's never that straightforward. We had to ensure that the planning and manufacturing was as precise as possible to avoid any situations where the animals can be harmed.

Food in such environment does not make any difference, even with their favorite treats at the end of the track, they are more interested in the surroundings rather than the food. We're not able to force them to run so there's very little we can do. It's really just about letting them get used to it since it's still very new for them.
legendary
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Good that you have uploaded a demo of the game. Another suggestion would be adding a high-quality camera inside the mice racing chamber. Right now, it seems like the race is been shot using a CCTV and doesn't really give that high quality. There is a constant lag in the broadcast as well. This is a complicated project man. i hope it pays back.
This is what i have observed too on the video which is indeed on poor quality or been taking out not so clear.It would be better if it shows as you suggested. This isnt a complicated
project if it would be done or execute correctly with corresponding basic needed set-up.I dont see for it to be rigged the thing i do like to see is all 4 mice would run when the door opens like putting a food on the end
for them to run.Its quiet boring if 2-3 of them wont run and just stick out to their place.lol
legendary
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Whoa whoa whoa...  Real mice racing, seriously?  Lololol.

That's my reaction too.  Grin Grin Grin

Well, we certainly don't want to be "just another dice site"

hehe , you do not look for easy ways , do you  Wink
anything that has a fresh idea and good implementation should be a success
so far it is more of a novelty fun site rather than  a legit betting platform, try to make sure that there is no way of accusing the site of rigging the races
and also find  ways to accept different coins and promote the site simultaneously
after the test period, do some promotions and marketing ,hope you will find that elusive formula where people are both having fun and wagering coins
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Good that you have uploaded a demo of the game. Another suggestion would be adding a high-quality camera inside the mice racing chamber. Right now, it seems like the race is been shot using a CCTV and doesn't really give that high quality. There is a constant lag in the broadcast as well. This is a complicated project man. i hope it pays back.
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Whoa whoa whoa...  Real mice racing, seriously?  Lololol.

That's my reaction too.  Grin Grin Grin

Well, we certainly don't want to be "just another dice site"
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Whoa whoa whoa...  Real mice racing, seriously?  Lololol.

That's my reaction too.  Grin Grin Grin
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We'll be running for the next 6-7 hours! Come and check it out, and please feel free to leave us feedback.
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Is this somehow as same as horse race? Because I cant get to see anything around just guessing. I cant click on the video play button and I cant even slide on other pages. What to do here, not even having some faucet for testing the site? I believe you guys do not only have this game for us to play right? Anyone have same problem as me?

I guess you could consider it similar to horse racing. Eventually we'll be live and operating 24/7. We're currently in testing phase and allowing people to play with testnet coins for free.
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[...] What to do here, not even having some faucet for testing the site? [...]

As mentioned in OP their site is currently running on testnet coins only, so any testnet faucet will do, eg:

https://coinfaucet.eu/en/btc-testnet/
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Is this somehow as same as horse race? Because I cant get to see anything around just guessing. I cant click on the video play button and I cant even slide on other pages. What to do here, not even having some faucet for testing the site? I believe you guys do not only have this game for us to play right? Anyone have same problem as me?
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What? How would I ensure that the race is actually being live telecast? It may always be a recorded one, where results are already known to you. How this type of a setup be provably fair?

a legit concern, by the way
you will have to make sure the system is provably fair and it is really difficult to do so
you can always be accused of putting a mouse that is more likely to win on a certain track , sleep deprive the rest , or use steroids to give some of them unfair advantage  Grin


We would have no benefit from doing so, since all the mice are placed in the lanes during the same time that the betting is open. They also have different colours/patterns, so we wouldn't be able to just change "recording" (if it was pre-recorded) to then provide more favorable results for ourselves. And besides, the "bets are closing" countdown occurs 5 seconds before the start of the race, so we'd have no time to alter anything




Mice racing is really unique and i tried to surf but its offline yet the mice are sleeping as of now. Do you have any sample videos of sample test runs of the races happened? Just want to check it out.

I added a short video and a GIF to show some example races on the main thread earlier.

Here they are again:

https://i.gyazo.com/2d768d9eda3b1f2b9fe795acc20e8d7e.gif

Example video of two races: https://youtu.be/y66XzQHQLjg
legendary
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What? How would I ensure that the race is actually being live telecast? It may always be a recorded one, where results are already known to you. How this type of a setup be provably fair?

I cant believe that is your response......  Its mice racing this is mad!!  Love the idea 10 out of 10 for originality.  Its for sure not just another dice site!!   Grin

Thanks, that's what we are striving for. Bringing something new and unique to an over saturated market.
Mice racing is really unique and i tried to surf but its offline yet the mice are sleeping as of now. Do you have any sample videos of sample test runs of the races happened? Just want to check it out.
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What? How would I ensure that the race is actually being live telecast? It may always be a recorded one, where results are already known to you. How this type of a setup be provably fair?

I cant believe that is your response......  Its mice racing this is mad!!  Love the idea 10 out of 10 for originality.  Its for sure not just another dice site!!   Grin

Thanks, that's what we are striving for. Bringing something new and unique to an over saturated market.
legendary
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What? How would I ensure that the race is actually being live telecast? It may always be a recorded one, where results are already known to you. How this type of a setup be provably fair?

a legit concern, by the way
you will have to make sure the system is provably fair and it is really difficult to do so
you can always be accused of putting a mouse that is more likely to win on a certain track , sleep deprive the rest , or use steroids to give some of them unfair advantage  Grin
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What? How would I ensure that the race is actually being live telecast? It may always be a recorded one, where results are already known to you. How this type of a setup be provably fair?

I cant believe that is your response......  Its mice racing this is mad!!  Love the idea 10 out of 10 for originality.  Its for sure not just another dice site!!   Grin
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What? How would I ensure that the race is actually being live telecast? It may always be a recorded one, where results are already known to you. How this type of a setup be provably fair?
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whoa , real mice races  
I caught myself watching the "race" where three of the mice were happily sitting and enjoying themselves
while one of them tentatively ventured on the track but wasn't curious enough to finish the race
it was no event, damn   Cheesy
crazy idea, might work

They were a little tired by then. We can't force them to run, but they are usually pretty good/active at the start, after a good night of rest. We'll be getting more so that we can continue operating for longer periods of time, since we are needing to let them rest quite often.
legendary
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whoa , real mice races  
I caught myself watching the "race" where three of the mice were happily sitting and enjoying themselves
while one of them tentatively ventured on the track but wasn't curious enough to finish the race
it was no event, damn   Cheesy
crazy idea, might work
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BACK LATER
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MICE SLEEPING

D'awww

Looks like a fun project, I'll keep an eye on this thread and hope to soon see a live race. Treat those little champions well! Wink

We should be up for around 6-7 hours from the time of this post to continue with test runs.
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BACK LATER
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MICE SLEEPING

D'awww

Looks like a fun project, I'll keep an eye on this thread and hope to soon see a live race. Treat those little champions well! Wink
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I must admit, I thought it was a terrible idea, but after watching the mouse for a few times it actually changed my mind. I laughed my ass off when the mouse turned around half way and then ran back to the starting position.

Indeeed. It's really funny to watch how they mice have no idea what the fuck is happening. Maybe they should keep cheese blocks on the way so the mice can run along without looking back.

I think you should have a general rest break for these guys and then stream the video for the animal rights activist, to see that the mice is having fun, when they are resting.

Oh No. PETA will sue these guys for making mice run on the tracks.

You should also chose mice with unique characteristics , so that we know that the same mouse is not winning the race every time. 
Yeah lol Maybe colour them or make them wear a sort of different hats. I have never seen mice with fur.
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I must admit, I thought it was a terrible idea, but after watching the mouse for a few times it actually changed my mind. I laughed my ass off when the mouse turned around half way and then ran back to the starting position.

I think you should have a general rest break for these guys and then stream the video for the animal rights activist, to see that the mice is having fun, when they are resting.

You should also chose mice with unique characteristics , so that we know that the same mouse is not winning the race every time. 
legendary
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Looks an interesting project. I hate it for the fact that you're offline all the time I tried checking how the event takes place. You can just record a video of a live race for offline broadcast. I don't think I will come back again to test it out.

Apologies for that. We will be online for quite a few hours now, just doing test runs and such while we continue with development of the site. As I mentioned previously, we will be working on operating 24/7 once we're at that stage.
Something is showing finally! I can see the rats and the bets being initialised. The video I guess is a live stream going on. Is your production and development server the same? I also noticed one of the bets like real time. It's something different.

Thank you for the suggestion, I assume you mean to just have a video "loop" to show an example of a race?
On the production server if there are no live games going on, then it's good to have some sort of demo for the first time visitors to excite them about how the site works.
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Looks an interesting project. I hate it for the fact that you're offline all the time I tried checking how the event takes place. You can just record a video of a live race for offline broadcast. I don't think I will come back again to test it out.

Apologies for that. We will be online for quite a few hours now, just doing test runs and such while we continue with development of the site. As I mentioned previously, we will be working on operating 24/7 once we're at that stage.

Thank you for the suggestion, I assume you mean to just have a video "loop" to show an example of a race?
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Looks an interesting project. I hate it for the fact that you're offline all the time I tried checking how the event takes place. You can just record a video of a live race for offline broadcast. I don't think I will come back again to test it out.
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An upgrade of https://www.satoshirat.com/  Grin

I registered and stuck on initializing state.

From online to real mice and i love the idea but how players can ensure that all mice are on the same condition?

We were offline at the time, we'll be implementing custom messages so people can clearly see when we're offline. The plan is to be operating 24/7 (or close to) once we do a full launch. But we'll be needing more mice for that so that we can allow adequate resting time.

Could you please elaborate on the "same condition" point? We have no gain from making any of the mice win, since they're all randomly placed into each lane and the betting isn't closed before they are in the starting gate, so people can see them before the race starts.
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This is one of those ideas where you say "It's crazy enough it just might work". I had a similar idea before using rats. It was just an idea and never developed. I will admit it is cool to see that someone has done it. The biggest drawback for me is the perceived animal abuse. You will have to make the mice retire in comfort, and treat them well. I would expand on that on your site.

Also, name the mice. Give each one a profile. Make players have favorites. Also, give options for the players to give the mice treats (for btc).

Best of luck on this.

It has been incredibly fun, and also interesting working on this project. I've learned a lot from it, especially just from watching the behavior of the animals. We're actually using gerbils at the moment since they are friendly, active and easy to handle. (We've tried a few different animals, ranging from "Dwarf Hamsters" to "African Dormice"). I am a big animal lover and I do understand that some people may perceive some form of animal abuse, but I honestly don't consider it any different to traditional horse racing or dog racing. Our priority is making sure that any animals that we keep are looked after.

As for the profiles and identifying each one, that is something we have planned for the future. Currently all the mice are randomly placed into each lane, so the betting is random. You're basically choosing a lane and hoping that the mouse on that lane wins (or comes runner up so you get the money back). If we were to identify each one, the strong performers would constantly be winning and would therefore require us to implement specific odds for each race, for which we currently wouldn't have enough data for.
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Whoa whoa whoa...  Real mice racing, seriously?  Lololol.  Kk, I would like to see the stats of each mice in how fast each of them are in straights and how fast they accelerate outside the turns.  Some info on their aerodynamics would be a plus.  Cheesy

And I suggest you guys expand to real goliath beetle fighting.
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An upgrade of https://www.satoshirat.com/  Grin

I registered and stuck on initializing state.

From online to real mice and i love the idea but how players can ensure that all mice are on the same condition?
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This is one of those ideas where you say "It's crazy enough it just might work". I had a similar idea before using rats. It was just an idea and never developed. I will admit it is cool to see that someone has done it. The biggest drawback for me is the perceived animal abuse. You will have to make the mice retire in comfort, and treat them well. I would expand on that on your site.

Also, name the mice. Give each one a profile. Make players have favorites. Also, give options for the players to give the mice treats (for btc).

Best of luck on this.
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Example GIF of a live race:
https://i.gyazo.com/2d768d9eda3b1f2b9fe795acc20e8d7e.gif

Example video of two races: https://youtu.be/y66XzQHQLjg


WE ARE CURRENTLY ONLY ACCEPTING BITCOIN DEPOSITS FROM THE TESTNET.

If you'd like to play and test it, you can use any of the free Bitcoin testnet faucets such as this: https://coinfaucet.eu/en/btc-testnet/


After over a year of hard work; planning, designing, manufacturing and setting everything up, we're getting very close to being able to launch our new project. We're opening up for people to test the site. This is far from the final product and we're still working out the finer details. We're open to any and all feedback and comments, whether negative or positive. We already have a lot in mind for improvements and added features.

We are looking to expand our team so if you are interested and have anything to offer (investment, marketing, support, etc.), we'd be happy to discuss details.

https://micerace.com/race



Current information that's not added to the site yet:

Dimensions of the machine

The track from the starting gate to the finish line is 135cm long.
The width of each lane is 6cm.
The drop is only around 12cm high to ensure that the animals don't get injured.



Game Rules
Game rules are subject to change.
The current rules are as follows:
The winning mouse gives a 2.5x payout.
The runner up (2nd mouse) gives a refund for bets placed on that mouse.

The race is cancelled and bets are refunded if:
There are no winners within 30 seconds.
There is only one winner within 30 seconds.
There are any unforeseen issues.

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