Microsoft to acquire Activision for $69B is all about Metaverse

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Quote from: dothebeats on January 19, 2022, 07:44:16 PM

I think we are connecting the word "Metaverse" with cryptocurrencies that much. The metaverse is, IMO, a word that describes interconnectedness of existing services and platforms through a single link. It isn't necessarily related to cryptocurrencies, as those who use it to brand what they do don't even have tokens or cryptos dedicated to it.

Exactly and I would go even further, the metaverse was never about cryptocurrencies or NFTs or anything like this, some projects grabbed the buzzword and did a full rebranding from the ding hype of Defi to Metaverse tokens even without a plan how they would make this metaverse.
Playing diablo or growing jpg monkeys, none of those are about a metaverse.
They will just use Blizzard's knowledge and resources to actually try and develop something that could be called a metaverse, not that you;re suddenly going to trade shitcoins on all games owned by Activision.

And no, the current games are not going to be destroyed by some shittokens:

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on January 20, 2022, 04:42:46 PM

I don't remember exactly when this happened but a few months ago Activision started to do some partnership with the blizzard and they even changed the name into blizzard Activision but the partnership failed and as far as I know, there were many steamers that quit streaming their games because of they after this they lose their reputation and as an easy bite they were ready to be bought by a giant like Microsoft,

What a bunch of nonsense.
Vivendi (Blizzard and Sierra) and Activision merged in 2008 and they have been like that for 14 years.
Easy bite at 69 billion? That's the same value BMW is quoted for.

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Quote from: bittraffic on January 18, 2022, 11:05:18 PM

This is the most expensive acquisition of Microsoft since time and we can't help speculating how much the metaverse tokens will be when Mircrosoft finally launch thier own in the metaverse. There is an impression in the Linux community where everything that Microsoft touch dies like Yahoo and Skype. Will Activision die too?

But with this Activision + Metaverse, I think this is going to be a good decision for them to develop. Activision has lots of games where gamers are actively playing and the Metaverse which we can consider to be the future. This might just be one of Microsoft's best investments and projects to develop and get successful with. Unless they become very aggressive again and deploy KYC in games. You think?

Microsoft just bought a company for the staff and the rights basically. Activision holds so much IP and thats just too much to give up. When you have that kind of rights, you could literally go with any other method and use those IP's to make money. Imagine having pokemon rights, you could ignore all the ones made so far and just focus on what you can make in the future and that would still be awesome.

This is not exactly about metaverse at all, but it is also about everything, literally everything. If you know what you are doing then microsoft should be able to start regular games, continue old ones, get new ideas, metaverse, movies, and many different things to be fair.

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I don't remember exactly when this happened but a few months ago Activision started to do some partnership with the blizzard and they even changed the name into blizzard Activision but the partnership failed and as far as I know, there were many steamers that quit streaming their games because of they after this they lose their reputation and as an easy bite they were ready to be bought by a giant like Microsoft, in the other hand Microsoft seems to be interested with Metaverse so that was a good idea for them to use this chance and acquire Activision so this way they can have strong step in Metaverse.

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Quote from: bittraffic on January 18, 2022, 11:05:18 PM

with this Activision + Metaverse, I think this is going to be a good decision for them to develop. Activision has lots of games where gamers are actively playing and the Metaverse which we can consider to be the future. This might just be one of Microsoft's best investments and projects to develop and get successful with. Unless they become very aggressive again and deploy KYC in games. You think?

I think it is about working with the trend, because other companies are also going into metaverse so as to be part of the emerging Web 3.0. And you can also see the new acquisition as a bid to diversify their investment. It is right move for me and if they are able to manage it well it will not die off like Skype and yahoo.

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With all this trendy play-to-earn I think we will see implementation of NFT in next Blizzard games. World of Warcraft, MMORPG with the largest amount of players, suits perfectly. Besides actual game, there is a pet wars in-game activity. NFT suits perfectly in this cute pets game. Just a 100% hit. Hearthstone - another perfect match for NFT implementation. What can be better than implementing NFT card in a card game.

I will call it a win-win scenario for everyone. Microsoft will earn from it. With Microsoft money and fresh politics, gamers will also win (because more and more often players scold Blizzard for controversial decisions). Cryptocurrency will get a new popularization push.

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I think Microsoft is simply profit-oriented and believes that even such a big price will pay off. It's unreal that they can actually afford a purchase like that, and where are those antitrust laws now? This is just another step towards monopolies on the market of digital products. We have a few big players like Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, Apple and Alphabet (Google's parent company), and they are killing the competition, leaving no chance to smaller companies. At the same time, I wonder what Microsoft wants to do in terms of the Metaverse because Facebook called dibs on that first, and having multiple metaverses kind of defeats the whole point.

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Metaverse on the blockchain will definitely have tokens but not metaverse in gaming world of Microsoft so don't expect some kind of crypto coin, it's really a good news for Xbox and pc gamers but I doubt that all Activision games won't reach other third party consoles as well

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There is an impression in the Linux community where everything that Microsoft touch dies like Yahoo and Skype. Will Activision die too?

You forgot to mention Bing. Grin

The only difference is that Bing was created by Microsoft,rather than being a separate company,which is acquired by them.
Jokes aside,I don't really think that Bing is dead.They are just totally behind Google in the search engine niche.The entire MSN portal is totally behind Google.
Anyway,paying 69 billion for a gaming company seems overpriced.Microsoft have Xbox,can't they just develop and expand Xbox even further,rather than spending billions on a gaming company?
Maybe there's something in the bigger picture,which I'm not seeing.
But yeah,this news definitely doesn't have anything to do with the metaverse concept.

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I think we are connecting the word "Metaverse" with cryptocurrencies that much. The metaverse is, IMO, a word that describes interconnectedness of existing services and platforms through a single link. It isn't necessarily related to cryptocurrencies, as those who use it to brand what they do don't even have tokens or cryptos dedicated to it. As for MS acquiring Activision, perhaps they can step up the games that the studio is producing. Not saying that they haven't produced anything good, but at this point most of what they are coming up with are cliche games that have entirely predictable storylines.

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It is not just about the metaverse, but rather a combination of franchises that reinforce MS xbox sales - e.g. they could decide to public CoD only for their gear, also they buy expertise in creating games, universes and stories successfully from Blizzard and Activision and then, yes, they leave a door open to the metaverse. MS is known for usually not being the best, but having a marketing and client channel control that is like a train. They can afford to let other create the market and fail if it is so required and then come and take the whole market.

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Quote from: South Park on January 19, 2022, 05:23:18 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on January 18, 2022, 11:05:18 PM

This is the most expensive acquisition of Microsoft since time and we can't help speculating how much the metaverse tokens will be when Mircrosoft finally launch thier own in the metaverse. There is an impression in the Linux community where everything that Microsoft touch dies like Yahoo and Skype. Will Activision die too?

But with this Activision + Metaverse, I think this is going to be a good decision for them to develop. Activision has lots of games where gamers are actively playing and the Metaverse which we can consider to be the future. This might just be one of Microsoft's best investments and projects to develop and get successful with. Unless they become very aggressive again and deploy KYC in games. You think?

Also in Cointelegraph https://cointelegraph.com/news/microsoft-s-massive-metaverse-move-buying-activision-for-69b

I do not like this at all, I like Activision and some of their games, it is obvious that for the short term this is a move by Microsoft to enlarge the games they offer on the xbox and for pc gaming, however I was not really aware that Activision was a large player on the metaverse, are they really that important for Microsoft to buy them for such a huge sum of money instead of developing their own tech?

Microsoft wouldnt be spending out billions without thinking or without basis and we know on how relevant Activision is and speaking of metaverse and if Microsoft is really prepping for that one

then this kind of action isnt really a bad idea at all even though we cant say that it would really be a good choice nor effective but we know on what industry they are focusing into.

Investment made by Microsoft would always be a gamble but they arent that dumb on not to see those probabilities.

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Quote from: bitmover on January 19, 2022, 01:23:32 PM

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"Gaming" is the biggest form of entertainment there is, and Activision is apparently involved in some mobile games as well, another free-for-all type market. Microsoft is only heading where the money is, I'm not seeing where the connection to the "metaverse" is.

Too many people throwing around a buzzword proposed by disconnected silicon valley tech elites that need to generate more start up funding from venture capitalist billionaires. I'm sure introducing the "metaverse" helps with their funding rounds, but perhaps not to anyone else that doesn't live in that tech bubble.

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Quote from: bittraffic on January 18, 2022, 11:05:18 PM

This is the most expensive acquisition of Microsoft since time and we can't help speculating how much the metaverse tokens will be when Mircrosoft finally launch thier own in the metaverse. There is an impression in the Linux community where everything that Microsoft touch dies like Yahoo and Skype. Will Activision die too?

But with this Activision + Metaverse, I think this is going to be a good decision for them to develop. Activision has lots of games where gamers are actively playing and the Metaverse which we can consider to be the future. This might just be one of Microsoft's best investments and projects to develop and get successful with. Unless they become very aggressive again and deploy KYC in games. You think?

Also in Cointelegraph https://cointelegraph.com/news/microsoft-s-massive-metaverse-move-buying-activision-for-69b

I do not like this at all, I like Activision and some of their games, it is obvious that for the short term this is a move by Microsoft to enlarge the games they offer on the xbox and for pc gaming, however I was not really aware that Activision was a large player on the metaverse, are they really that important for Microsoft to buy them for such a huge sum of money instead of developing their own tech?

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on January 19, 2022, 03:31:45 PM

I'm pretty sure that Microsoft doesn't care about Metaverse beyond occasional opportunities for positive press-releases.

I think Microsoft is just there for the business hype and wanting to catch up with the market groove to push there name that seem to be less heard lately. It is just a name and hype that I see just with Facebook trying to build a brand with metaverse.

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Microsoft doesn't really "kill" everything they touch, they just have bad acquisition periods. Yahoo never had a chance to survive anyway, if it was bought by some other company or if it was still owned by the same people, do you think it would worth billions upon billions right now? I do not think so, they are mainly an email company, that is what they are most known for, and they have some other stuff that can be replaced very easily by other companies.

Skype was good, especially during this period of covid I am sure they saw some increase in usage but even with that the competition was better and most people used Zoom instead. So these companies had a lot better competition and they never really should have been bought for that much. Activision is different, they are a huge company and even the world of warcraft alone is great, even today if you asked me which mmorpg is better, after nearly 20 years, there are still no better ones. So, that kind of makes sense.

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Quote from: bittraffic on January 18, 2022, 11:05:18 PM

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REDMOND, Wash. and Santa Monica, Calif. – Jan. 18, 2022 – With three billion people actively playing games today, and fueled by a new generation steeped in the joys of interactive entertainment, gaming is now the largest and fastest-growing form of entertainment. Today, Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq: MSFT) announced plans to acquire Activision Blizzard Inc. (Nasdaq: ATVI), a leader in game development and interactive entertainment content publisher. This acquisition will accelerate the growth in Microsoft’s gaming business across mobile, PC, console and cloud and will provide building blocks for the metaverse.

from: https://news.microsoft.com/2022/01/18/microsoft-to-acquire-activision-blizzard-to-bring-the-joy-and-community-of-gaming-to-everyone-across-every-device/

This is the most expensive acquisition of Microsoft since time and we can't help speculating how much the metaverse tokens will be when Mircrosoft finally launch thier own in the metaverse. There is an impression in the Linux community where everything that Microsoft touch dies like Yahoo and Skype. Will Activision die too?

But with this Activision + Metaverse, I think this is going to be a good decision for them to develop. Activision has lots of games where gamers are actively playing and the Metaverse which we can consider to be the future. This might just be one of Microsoft's best investments and projects to develop and get successful with. Unless they become very aggressive again and deploy KYC in games. You think?

Also in Cointelegraph https://cointelegraph.com/news/microsoft-s-massive-metaverse-move-buying-activision-for-69b

It's a good move for Microsoft, when a company gets to their size and has so much spare cash floating around it's hard to make your profits go up substantially unless you go for a big acquisition like this. Similar to Warren Buffett saying it is hard for him to buy companies that a big enough to make much impact now it has grown to such a huge size. They seem to make a logical pair, the only downside for consumers is it will make certain titles x-box and PC only - you'll see certain titles less on devices like Apple and Playstation in future unless Microsoft is feeling particularly altruistic. Maybe it is a play for the "metaverse" but that seems like such a gimmicky concept that has been tried many times in the past and is hard to see a decent return on.

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There is an impression in the Linux community where everything that Microsoft touch dies like Yahoo and Skype. Will Activision die too?

The Linux community is a pretty fractured one if I've heard right, and even if it wasn't I wouldn't treat their opinion about this merger as a Nostradamus-type prediction.

What I do know is that Microsoft wants its hands in everything (which it almost does already) and that they don't give two shits about anyone's privacy--that's the part I care about most. Having been a long-time Windows user, it's disturbing how much information they attempt to gather, and if I were just a little bit more computer savvy I'd be in that Linux community myself.

Assuming MSFT is allowed to go through with the merger I have a hard time believing they'll just take a hands-off approach and let Activision-Blizzard continue as it was. No doubt they'll make some radical changes for the worse, though I have no idea yet what they'll look like. They are a ruthless company that doesn't mind breaking the law to get what they want, so if I was a gamer (which I'm not) I'd be very careful about what games I buy if and when MSFT gains control of Activision-Blizzard. Too bad a lot of gamers don't care about privacy, especially younger ones.

It is not everything you do you must use your real identity, i don't know if playing games this days now require kyc otherwise why worry so much about privacy! am not a hardcore gamer but most of the few games i have played has always been on false identity, i don't feel it is necessary to give my real identity when i can register with fake identity, perhaps i haven't come across such games that require real identity to play.

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"Metaverse" is just a marketing buzzword used by Facebook, if you are posting about it, you are just helping Facebook raise their stock value. It's no longer cool for a tech company to say that they are working on blockchain technology, because blockchain technology is old news, but Metaverse and NFT is a brand new hype.

I'm pretty sure that Microsoft doesn't care about Metaverse beyond occasional opportunities for positive press-releases.

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Quote from: bittraffic on January 18, 2022, 11:05:18 PM

There is an impression in the Linux community where everything that Microsoft touch dies like Yahoo and Skype. Will Activision die too?

The Linux community is a pretty fractured one if I've heard right, and even if it wasn't I wouldn't treat their opinion about this merger as a Nostradamus-type prediction.

What I do know is that Microsoft wants its hands in everything (which it almost does already) and that they don't give two shits about anyone's privacy--that's the part I care about most. Having been a long-time Windows user, it's disturbing how much information they attempt to gather, and if I were just a little bit more computer savvy I'd be in that Linux community myself.

Assuming MSFT is allowed to go through with the merger I have a hard time believing they'll just take a hands-off approach and let Activision-Blizzard continue as it was. No doubt they'll make some radical changes for the worse, though I have no idea yet what they'll look like. They are a ruthless company that doesn't mind breaking the law to get what they want, so if I was a gamer (which I'm not) I'd be very careful about what games I buy if and when MSFT gains control of Activision-Blizzard. Too bad a lot of gamers don't care about privacy, especially younger ones.

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When I've seen this news, it never clicked to my mind about Metaverse. It's just the usual and casual company acquisition that's happening with these bigger companies.

What I'm hoping for is that Microsoft won't change any policy and the way of the current management of Activision does. It's more of that acquisition is just about the shares and let them just do their thing so it won't die gradually just as the common belief that everyone sees with their acquisitions.

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When Microsoft knew the Metaverse was a source of income that would increase their appeal even more they knew acquiring was the most effective way to have an early place in the Metaverse. regardless of how they run the system and will soon get investors into their pockets investing their money. Microsoft has the greatest popularity and in terms of growing its economy, it is clear that Meta is the ideal place.

In a big way, since the launch of Facebook into Meta, Microsoft has signed a land contract in Metaverse with Facebook and allocated a large number of funds.

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I don't think metaverse has anything to do with this acquisition

Games market is growing exponentially since 2000s, and Microsoft already has some market share with Xbox. They are just expanding it:

https://twitter.com/nixcraft/status/1208674493368946689/photo/1

Games market is a giant by itself, and wow and call of duty are giants in this market

They arte probably focusing in their competitor, like Sony Playstation

I do t think this acquisition will have anything to do with cryptocurrency . Maybe they will have some apps for metaverse in future, UT not directly related to Activision products

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I do think that if they are going to be aggressive about KYC and also about imposing impossible rules, then at the end of the day they will end up cutting down their own customers. Which will eventually make their whole concept not very successful. There is a lot of speculation regarding this metaverse thing, but I do think that making everything interconnected would eventually cause the company to have worse standards for every individual thing. Companies are very concerned about not being up-to-date with the new technologies that every company will try and have a token, but what would these tokens do ? I think tokens will be an unnecessary clutter.

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In October last year, Mark Zuckerberg announced the company formerly known as Facebook Inc. would undergo a major rebranding and become Meta Platforms Inc. So my guess is that Microsoft are turning into the same direction with new income opportunities opening up with everything digital in the so-called Metaverse.

"Roblox" an online metaverse platform, has grown rapidly with 49.4 million daily active users, so these types of platforms are gaining a lot of attention lately, but it is going to be a gigantic effort to monetize them with Crypto currencies. Roll Eyes

I hope the future of the Metaverse will be like the Movie... "Ready Player One"

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There is an impression in the Linux community where everything that Microsoft touch dies like Yahoo and Skype. Will Activision die too?

Lol! Linux community is furious about Microsoft because Linux community believes in Open source system which Microsoft doesn't. But you must not forget that Microsoft is the dominant player in commercial software and OS business. 90% of the offices still use Microsoft products. So when it comes to business, Microsoft is the King.

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But with this Activision + Metaverse, I think this is going to be a good decision for them to develop. Activision has lots of games where gamers are actively playing and the Metaverse which we can consider to be the future. This might just be one of Microsoft's best investments and projects to develop and get successful with. Unless they become very aggressive again and deploy KYC in games. You think?

While all major tech companies are looking into metaverse and making themselves ready for web 3.0, Microsoft just don't want to stay behind. because if that is going to be the trend for the internet in future, Microsoft will eat their share out of it. Activision is a well know gaming studio and I don't think we have anyone in this forum who have never played "Call of Duty". It's interesting to see how the metaverse unfolds really. It can be very exciting or it can be miserable. So let's wait and watch! It's too early to comment on metaverse!

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In my opinion, it is nothing more than a diversification of investments. Digital games have grown significantly over the past five years, and legislation is still limited for these games. New waves of Covid-19 may continue, forcing more people to stay at home longer or spend more time with children, and therefore games Entertainment will be a successful investment.

I don't know what is the strange link between it and Metaverse? But even if Microsoft does this, it is something that investors like because Metaverse has become an important sentence after Facebook used it as a term.

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So Microsoft's implementation of the metaverse is World of Warcraft?

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Blizzard makes computer games, Microsoft owns XboX. (and some other game studios) I don't think it s that complicated and I don't see metaverse anywhere in this picture. Microsoft may ignore Meta completely which is a different company and a different project. Not everything is about crypto/meta.

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"Metaverse" doesn't automatically mean it's going to have a token though. Like with what Facebook is doing; I doubt they're going to have a token. Some companies think of Metaverse as sort of something like "interconnected everything"; but not necessarily something that has to do something with cryptocurrencies.

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REDMOND, Wash. and Santa Monica, Calif. – Jan. 18, 2022 – With three billion people actively playing games today, and fueled by a new generation steeped in the joys of interactive entertainment, gaming is now the largest and fastest-growing form of entertainment. Today, Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq: MSFT) announced plans to acquire Activision Blizzard Inc. (Nasdaq: ATVI), a leader in game development and interactive entertainment content publisher. This acquisition will accelerate the growth in Microsoft’s gaming business across mobile, PC, console and cloud and will provide building blocks for the metaverse.

from: https://news.microsoft.com/2022/01/18/microsoft-to-acquire-activision-blizzard-to-bring-the-joy-and-community-of-gaming-to-everyone-across-every-device/

This is the most expensive acquisition of Microsoft since time and we can't help speculating how much the metaverse tokens will be when Mircrosoft finally launch thier own in the metaverse. There is an impression in the Linux community where everything that Microsoft touch dies like Yahoo and Skype. Will Activision die too?

But with this Activision + Metaverse, I think this is going to be a good decision for them to develop. Activision has lots of games where gamers are actively playing and the Metaverse which we can consider to be the future. This might just be one of Microsoft's best investments and projects to develop and get successful with. Unless they become very aggressive again and deploy KYC in games. You think?

Also in Cointelegraph https://cointelegraph.com/news/microsoft-s-massive-metaverse-move-buying-activision-for-69b

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