Topic: Mike Novogratz says the economy is going to collapse (Read 182 times)

The economy is going to collapse, Novogratz told MarketWatch on Wednesday, adding, We are going to go into a really fast recession, and you can see that in lots of ways.

Novogratz didnt give an indication of timing of when a recession will happen, but drew parallels to the 1998 collapse of Long-Term Capital Management fund and the current bloodbath that is happening in the crypto market.

Long Term Capital Management was a highly leveraged fund that lost $4.6 billion in less than four months from its exposure to the 1997 Asian financial crisis and the 1998 Russian financial crisis. The fall of the investing giant sent shock waves through global markets and led to a $3.6 billion bailout.

This is nothing new. I'm referring to Bitcoin or crypto bulls predicting an economic collapse or criticizing government financial, monetary, and economic steps. This has been going on all the time. In a way, they're already a broken record.

The issue here is that their analyses could hardly be construed as objective because they are naturally biased against fiat, central banks, governments to a certain extent, the current economic model, and so on. One set of economists think that there is a need to print more money, implement QE and stimulus and relief, raise debt ceiling, and then increase inflation rate beyond normal, lift interest rates, and so on. Another group, which probably includes Novogratz, is against every single one of them.


Unfortunately, production and manufacturing are largely driven by consumerism. They all belong to the same equation. You remove consumerism, a large part of production and manufacturing will crumble.

Rampant consumerism has been encouraged for so many years. I think we would need a shift from consumption in consumerism to a greater emphasis on production and manufacturing.

They've been saying this for so many years. Its hard to believe it is possible.

If a recession did occur in our lifetimes. What would be the best approach to rebound and recover from it. The typical approach for many, will be to do nothing and expect God or the government to save them. But what if God and the government aren't saving people this decade. They're taking this decade off to go on vacation. What do we do then.

Rampant consumerism has been encouraged for so many years. I think we would need a shift from consumption in consumerism to a greater emphasis on production and manufacturing. Providing credit and funding for these initiatives would be difficult under negative economic conditions. The shift from city living to off grid self sustainability could be advantageous and a model to pursue. Unfortunately is not affordable for all.

Jobs are the traditional means of earning wealth and security, perhaps a shift could occur towards entrepreneurial pursuits and freelance work.

If recession sets in, how can we best dig ourselves out from under it.

Mike has moved on to the dark side and should not be relevant in any speculation, especially since everyone with a little brain understands that the big ones played the gods, and now the small ones, as always, will pay the price for it. His opinion is as important as the project that pulled the whole crypto market down, and he promoted it and maybe earned a few million in the process.

Now it's easy to talk about the collapse of the economy, and then say "well, I told you it would happen".


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Seems like he has learned his lesson faster than Roubini and Zerohedge, if you call it in 2018, in 2020, and again in 2022 you might start to look like the broken clock that has maybe 30-100 years till it finally gets it right.


Two years hot streak? But, but, in 2020 we were going to enter a recession 
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Novogratz didn’t give an indication of timing of when a recession will happen, but drew parallels

Novogratz pointed to the housing market, which is finally cooling down after a two-year hot streak, and inventories piling up as signs of a recession looming on the horizon.

While many economists agree a recession is likely coming in 2023, Wall Street veteran and Bitcoin bull Mike Novogratz has just given one of the most dire outlooks yet.

“The economy is going to collapse,” Novogratz told MarketWatch on Wednesday, adding, “We are going to go into a really fast recession, and you can see that in lots of ways.”

Novogratz, chief executive of crypto merchant bank Galaxy Digital, gave the interview just before the Federal Reserve raised rates by 0.75 percentage points—the largest rate hike seen since 1994. The rate hike came five days after U.S. consumer price increase unexpectedly surged in May to a 40-year high of 8.6%.

Novogratz pointed to the housing market, which is finally cooling down after a two-year hot streak, and inventories piling up as signs of a recession looming on the horizon.

“There are layoffs in multiple industries, and the Fed is stuck,” he said, adding that the central bank is in a position where it has to “hike [interest rates] until inflation rolls over.”

Novogratz accurately predicted in the interview that the central bank would lift rates by 75 points and that the market would rally on the news. After Fed chair Jerome Powell announced the rate hike, the Dow Jones Industrial Average rose by 1%, while the S&P 500 advanced 1.5% and the Nasdaq rose 2.5%.

Novogratz also predicted there would be a stock selloff in the next coming days, which happened right on cue. At 8 a.m. ET, S&P 500 futures were trading 2.2% lower, wiping out yesterday's gains and plunging the benchmark further into a bear market.

“They are hiking into the popping of a bubble,” Novogratz said.

Recession looms

The U.S will officially be in a recession when the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) finds a significant decline in economic activity that lasts over an extended period of time—usually two fiscal quarters.

According to a new survey of 49 U.S. macroeconomics experts conducted at the start of June by the Financial Times and the University of Chicago’s policy research center Initiative on Global Markets, this is likely to happen in 2023.

Nearly 70% of the economists surveyed believe the NBER will make the call at some point in 2023, with 38% predicting a recession will start in the first two quarters of 2023, and another 30% forecasting an official start in the second half.

The Fed appears largely powerless to stop runaway inflation, which is being driven up further by the soaring prices of food and fuel brought on by Russia's war on Ukraine.

In his announcement of Wednesday's rate hike, Powell signaled another large rate hike coming at the July FOMC meeting—in the 50- or even 75-basis-point range—with the Fed expecting weaker economic growth and higher unemployment.

Crypto crash

Novogratz didn’t give an indication of timing of when a recession will happen, but drew parallels to the 1998 collapse of Long-Term Capital Management fund and the current bloodbath that is happening in the crypto market.

Long Term Capital Management was a highly leveraged fund that lost $4.6 billion in less than four months from its exposure to the 1997 Asian financial crisis and the 1998 Russian financial crisis. The fall of the investing giant sent shock waves through global markets and led to a $3.6 billion bailout.

https://twitter.com/novogratz/status/1537036311613382656

On Wednesday, Bitcoin came very close to falling below $20,000. The crypto king has fallen more than 30% this month, and its decline on Wednesday marked the ninth straight day of losses. While it also rallied on the back of Powell’s announcement to $22,900, it has since fallen back to $21,015.




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