Topic: mindset of some people here (Read 497 times)

I commend you for your effort in helping the low-ranked members to earn their well-deserved Merits.  But the reality is really heartbreaking that you are just one (or if you just add all the merit sources, less than 100 ) compare to the tens of thousands or even millions users of this forum. 

It is a battle, a battle of idea, creativity, and originality in their posts just to impress the high-ranked members just to earn a merit in order for them to rank-up.  Some members may criticize them, even scrutinize, post sarcastic remarks, and accuse them for merit-begging post.

Preventing spammers to earn easily from the forum's bounties mainly depend upon management of bounty managers.
Unfortunately, there are lots of shitty bounty managers, who don't care about quality of participants and their threads.

It isn't a battle. The forum is awash with sMerits to be awarded. I started today with around 180, and I'm having real trouble in awarding them responsibly. I'm having to be proactive to generate good threads. The thread on the Nicaraguan protests should arrive on the political board soon, and I hope this will help Flying Hellfish in his good work to clean up that board. Anyone who has the Politics board on ignore should remove it, and give Flying Hellfish the help he deserves.

Bitcointalk.org has allowed posts to exist, else the moderator would have deleted it. Besides, I have not come across a glossory of topics here where at a glance, you can see all previous posts.

I have been trying to understand the concept of shitpost. I quite agree that this forum is flooded by members who basically have one mindset: rank up, participate in signature and earn money. Yet, I believe that the forum has created this, or has allowed for it, hence it should be accepted as such.

I finally get why higher ranks act so condescending and annoyed.. I used to be nice and just want to help people but after about 8 months it gets pretty old, I can't even imagine 7-8 years...  I now find just being snarky and sarcastic is about the only way to deal with it.  The noobs battling other noobs for merit or just mindlessly posting garbage up to page 739 is really just lol.  It's a lot like Alien vs Predator... no matter who wins, we all lose.

I think you just miss the purpose of the forum and its advantage compare to google.  Google will help you in many ways especially in answering your question but posting a question in a forum stimulates discussion.  Some people learn by having a feeling of someone helping them or having a tutor, while others learn using self-help method like google, books, and the like.

We have our own unique ways of learning hence do not discriminate one from another.

Seriously it baffles me the kind of questions and silly topics in the forum. Most of this happen as a result of signature post counts and merits hunting. I think moderators has a big role to play on this because only them has the access to delete unwanted meaningless threads and post.

I'm coming to the conclusion that good, well managed bounty programmes could be beneficial to the forum. Somehow we need to get rid of the lazy, inconsiderate managers, and encourage the responsible ones. This is why I suggested that the forum could provide them with some tools to make their task easier, and thus to reduce the workload of the mods. Getting rid of the rubbish posting should increase the value of the forum advertising, especially if it leads to the recruitment of more active members of the crypto community.

I may do not have the right to talk about this but yeah basically. Most of this are just for those who wants to have their quota in signature campaigns. Because spammers are too lazy to atleast make a little bit of effort in posting. Tho some reason that I know before is that they are doing it to easily rank their accounts so they could sell it on a high price.


That is how the current system. We can't deny the fact that the root cause of this problem is the bounties
 Which is also i think almost impossible for the mods to remove.

That would be nice if it is obtainable or don't you think so? It helps sometimes as well.

Hardly anybody reads comments. Google search takes effort. It is easier to ask questions without thinking. I want someone to pre-chew my food for me too. Is that 70 characters yet ? I can't be bothered to count. Damn I think I exerted myself and wrote too much.

I got your point, right that's why its a "discussion" however what I think OP is pointing out is that there are so many useless threads and it is being used by shitposters just to create "at least 50-75 characters constructive posts" without reading that it was answered multiple times. Btw whats the next big ico this year? 

Are you proposing ExtrovertCoin?

You know sometimes when we ask a question, it is not because we don't have an answer or don't know where to get the answers from. Sometimes all we just need is that single comment from people to know we are not alone in this fight. Don't judge people. Some people are actually and I mean it really alone in real life and all they have is internet friends who respond to their every stupid and careless question. That keeps them going day in day out. What such people need is not Google but people around them.

A catchy thrad title like the one for https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39759954 ? Notice that it even earned sM.  

Posting a new thread is like trying to make an attention with what you want to ask or say. One of the reasons now why we should somehow make or start threads is because to gain merit. And by gaining merit, we should start a UNIQUE and INFORMATIVE questions, facts, and/or answers.

With regards to most of newbies and users that aren't introduced enough or aren't known the widespread of BItcointalk Forum enough, having a doubt on them (why they post such threads that can be answered by google or already answered on the forum) is slightly a wrong thing. No blame to them that they think its what they need to do. This is a worldwide forum and an open website.

JUST A SUGGESTION
How about having an alert locked on all discussions and boards about what you should a disciplined bitcointalk user do?
I.e. Tips on how to be a pro-bitcointalk member
1. Don't shitpost nonsense. If u have questions, google it. If google can't answer, find the answer here. If the forum doesn't have your answer, start asking question.
2. If you have some important news or facts to say, search it first on forum if someone already has posted it. If it is already posted, don't try to post it again.
3. LASTLY, FEEL LIKE TALKING TO SOMEONE WITH REGARDS TO WHAT THEY ASK and STOP POSTING OR REPLYING NONSENSE THINGS JUST TO COUNT IT AS AN ACTIVITY.

Although its the same as in rules, a catchy title might catch the attention of newbies and those who don't know the bitcointalk forum enough.

Only single answere all of your question. That is signature campaign. Yes it's true, due to signature campaign people make unnecessary question/ topic or reply. We can't prevent it. Many people post thread about solution but no one care about it. Most dangerous thing to allow newbie and Jr. member for sign camp.

I have nobody on ignore, thus able to start moronic threads discussing their ... GULP!

I've got all the bounty and alt boards on ignore, and often when I look at a junior members post history, I can only see half a dozen posts. The member could have a post count in the 300s, and no merit, so I guess that speaks volumes. I'd like to start every new member on ignore, and take them off when they have shown themselves to have potential, but I can't think of a way to do this. Maybe we could have a feature that allows us to ignore all members who haven't received any merit. Oh wait! we could do that if new members had their own boards until they received merit, that would cut down on some of the spam on the main boards.

Eventually, all the people who actually contribute are just going to have most of the sections on ignore or they will just straight up leave like others have before. I think a few years from now we'll just be talking in Meta.

I don't personally have any sections on ignore, however I do understand why someone would do this as some of the sections are just getting out of hand now.

OP was here before the merit system came about, but only by about 2 weeks.  I'd like to point out to him that the main reason Theymos created it was in response to the bullshit that OP described--and he's correct that bitcointalk is swamped with moronic threads.  Most of them are designed to give bounty shitposters easy questions to answer, as if posting here is a high school essay exam with a character minimum.  It's ridiculous.

When I see idiotic threads get started, I've been in the habit of putting the thread starter on ignore.  I have so many members on my ignore list that it sometimes amazes me that I'm able to see any posts at all--but the accounts just keep coming, and I can't put them on ignore fast enough.

OP, you might want to use the "ignore board" feature.  I have Bitcoin Discussion and a number of others on ignore, and it helps keep my unread threads feed relatively clean.

Read this thread to this point hopin' somebody echoed what I was about to pen. Bravo!

The truth is that spammers at bct will not care about your thoughts, mine or anyone else's. They just want to do the work they want to do and not follow the rules - until they are banned!
Bct has been around for more than 8 years, and 8 years is enough for this forum to get all the answers needed for every question (within the confines of the usual crypto world). Need to know something - they just have to look for old posts on this forum - but they are too lazy to do so!
Technology is growing day by day, and now we have a deeper interest, more questions to discuss and finding the right answer. But that almost belongs to a handful of people who are really knowledgeable and experienced.
Those people are almost separated from at least 80% of the users of this forum - those who view bct as a place to make money. So you can not expect them to act like scientists. It's true! 

Disease to virus to airborne until it becomes an apocalypse.  Threads gone wrong. Hoping to be a part of the cure,  reading your posts. 

Welcome to the world of Bounty Spam Talk - formerly known as Bitcoin Talk.

Yes,we have bitcointalk for discuss about cryptocurrencies but asking those kind of questions may not be acceptable.The answer for their questions maybe already available so they need to use the search option available for them then they will find the same thread with thousands of replies.

But most of the people creating those kind of threads with the intention of filling their weekly quota for their signature campaigns.

We can report those kind of repetitive threads to the moderators and already I can see lot of those kinds of threads were moved by mods so keep reporting them.

Google.com is a way to know a lots of things. But if we found all and take all result from google then why we will use bitcointalk? The theme of the forum is to learn about crypto. So if someone have a question on their mind they can ask here. How you attack other users? I think you have no right to attack them such a way.

Guys, I don't know how to start. After reading so many threads today I started thinking that " why some people have started their threads ?. Are they just joking ?. Don't they like to do  google search by them selves before asking some questions here ? etc. Because lots of threads have been started to ask like
Is this the end of crypto ?. 
What should I do now ?
I'm panic by seeing the red market.
I lost $10 and now what I should do ? kind of posts.

Try it yourself. You will see lots of infant kind of questions. That kind of posts from newbies can be acceptable. But with even Jr members who have more than 200+, 300+ post counts ??. Guys, you have come here after studying the crypto at least for 1-2 hours. Bitcointalk is not your first start point ( at least for 90% people here ). So be professional. Don't ask silly questions that doesn't make any sense. Also before asking any question here take a look at google first. Don't cry by seeing the market goes up and down. First understand it is normal. I think you can understand what I mean by this post. This is just my personal idea. Have a happy forum time