Topic: Mining chia network with HDD it true ? (Read 286 times)

The creator of Chia, Bram Cohen, shared plans for the development of DeFi products in the project's ecosystem, including he mentioned a decentralized exchange and an automated market maker. https://twitter.com/bramcohen/status/1414330645141094403

Huobi Pool launched the Chia mining pool on June 10. This is a beta launch, and Huobi Pool is currently one of two platforms offering a Chia mining pool worldwide. https://twitter.com/WuBlockchain/status/1403270612299259911

Yes, many SDD manufacturers reduce the warranty period of their devices due to chia mining, but some go even further, for example, PNY has reduced the service life of XLR8 CS3030 series SSDs. The resource of some models has been reduced by almost 80%. Yes, many SDD manufacturers are reducing the warranty period of their devices due to chia mining , but some go even further, for example, PNY has reduced the service life of the XLR8 CS3030 series SSD. The resource of some models has been reduced by almost 80% Depending on the drive modification, the reduction in the guaranteed amount of recorded information reaches almost 80%  for the 2 TB model, this figure has decreased from 3115 to 660 TB https://www.computerbase.de/2021-06/xlr8-cs3030-ssd-pny-reduziert-total-bytes-written-um-fast-80-prozent/

Actually miners (GPU/ASIC) are great for grow operations, all mining generates about 45C, at 48% humidity, the perfect drying environment for bud's.

This would be a twofer, rather than just buying a dryer, you get crypto while drying the bud's.

Sadly, since chia doesn't generate heat, what does it have to do with this op? Bitcoin is not chia, you understand  that right?

ahahahha))) British police discovered a Bitcoin mining farm during an operation to seize illegal marijuana.

"This is definitely not what we expected." - said the police officer.

Be real careful here, and look for the small print on the warranty, and also just about every drive manufacturing outfit has already said they don't honor warranty on their drives if you hdd mined them

Ok, so I have been doing this 2+ months, I have 3 dead drives to date, an I have learned a log about the NVME, its not the sequential that dies, its the random, even the corsair demon is says 5000mb/s ( small print seq ), random 500mb/sec ( same as sata )

My samsung NVME drives are all warranty for 5yr, 600TBW, at 150TBW or 2 weeks, or 100 plots they die, its all the same technology, the same controllers, the same nand memory; all that is different is marketing

But read the small print folks

It's been said to buy the enterprise drives, but they too are rated for sequential, and not random access.

There are two controllers on the NVME one for seq, and one for random, and its the random controller that goes +90C and smokes, and leaves the seq controller still working.

Sabrent has announced the upcoming release of specialized series of M.2 format ssd for Chia cryptocurrency mining. The older model of PlotRipper Pro for 2 TB, according to the manufacturer, has a resource of 54 PB of rewriting, the manufacturer did not mention the price and availability for purchase. https://www.storagereview.com/news/sabrent-plotripper-chia-plotting-ssd-announced

Funny how people who in the first sentence say "I have never done this", but then go on to tell you how great it is,

I think in reality, if you were to plot chia, and run farmers to mine the plots, you would know that chia is a pile of feces.


I have been mining chia for months, and eth on gpus for years, and the gpu is profitable, the chia, you fall behind everyday, no matter how many new plots you create, you can't stay up with the global space, now at 12+ EB (billion-billion bytes) that means our little 100TB farms earn about $1/day, and 1/2 each week, contstant I can create 16 plots a day, which used to be doubling, now its like adding 1% to my farm, while the global grows 10% /day

The end who knows, moronity has no limits, it could be 100EB, it would also be 1,000EB, whereas for humans, the limit will always be 10-500TB, think about 500TB that's 50 10TB hard-disks at today price of $500, or $25k, to make $1/day

Then don't accept the BS they tell you about HDD's lasting, in my 2+ months I have destroyed 3 drives from running their SW, its highly abusive to new drives, and if you chia-mine, the warranty is voided on day one, its all in the logs, they can see what you did, there is no hiding the abuse.

For the average person who dabbles, 10TB is a big deal, and now that is 1 cent/day, however since most don't pool, they solo-mine, to date the majority have earned zero to date.

CHIA mining is going strong in China and neighboring countries. Looks like this coin is getting good profit to mine. I haven't tried mining them yet but my friends are making good profits and they are continuing to scale CHIA mining. What I find good about CHIA mining is that it doesn't cause as much noise, heat and electricity as traditional crypto mining.

For months the space size ( now 8.5 EB, 8.5 billion-billion bytes ) rises 8% a day, or every 9 days doubles; The prices is dropping 3% a day. Parity will soon be achieved where space growth will collapse, however long after the price has collapsed. Fools always quit an activity long after the ROI has gone to nil.

ALmost everybody concurs that the HDD & SSD manufacturers paid these companys  to push space crypto, so to make HDD the new GPU shortage, and 5x the price

The videos are all paid influencers all using the exact same script, and the exact same  free hw plugs months ago, the influencers have led their sheep to the slaughter as solo-mining chia returns zero

There is not a single site on youtube telling the truth, its like the entire narrative is/was already signed off by cia-nsa, hell youtube is google, but amazon aws in on chia, and so is google, so no wonder they don't allow the truth, aka dissenting opinions

Both google & amazon make money by hosting morons to host their plots (108gb files), and to attempt to create-plots on their  virtual servers, at costs of 1000X of ROI;

The HPOOL pay's out every 5-15minutes 100%

When the calc say 1 plot will win in 7 years, what that means is that you have a 51% chance of winning, but you also have a 49% chance of zero ROI

What HPOOL does they have all the ASIAN miners, and they split the pot an every win, they get like 90% of all the wins, my HPOOL returns 4x what the chia-calc predicts.

it seems that this project is the new fashion but the exponential growth it has seen makes it difficult for many enthusiasts who do not have quality hardware... guaranteed there is nothing but I think it is an interesting project, you will find many video tutorials on Youtube.

The risks are too high

1. HDD can die at any time.
2. SSD and NVME can worn out when use for plotting and they are more costly than HDD
3. Network space is growing faster than even BTC and ETH, even those with 100TB will end up with nothing sooner

This is nothing compares to GPU mining because the only thing you need to worry about is keeping your graphic cards cool or at a safe temp

I was thinking about investing in it but I came to same conclusion like you. I think it's too early to invest a big amount of money at the beggining. We can't know what will happen in next couple of months since our 40tb can be small amount to mine and we can end up with losses.

yes that's right, but you have to do plotting first to be able to farming Chia (SDD is preferred for plotting) and of course I recommend you to wait until the pools from Chia are launched, because if not then you need a long time to win (could be 3-5 months for now) and if you want to build a PC for plotting and farming Chia, then you can see it here "https://chiadecentral.com/budget-plotting-build/".

Please bring in the data proving that info because i keep hearing about broken hard drives. Also this is not even a new concept. For example Burst did this already if i remember correctly and it was a failed concept. So how come it's now suddenly better concept then all the failed proof of spaces and how on earth is this "green"?

It's now extremely hard to mine chia coin because there is no pool available to solve blocks faster and share the gains like GPU mining, I don't know why there is delay for pool launch right now

My friend are making money with CHia. There are many elements required to calculate how much Chia and profit you earn per week, month and yeah, you can earn money with Chia mining

However, I do not think it is productive because it requires hardware gadgets. I used to stick with ethereum mining but now I get rid of it. Not good at all and the risk of fire explosion can make you bankrupt. I also cant afford the electric bill since electricity in my country cost more than others

It's more risky to mine chia coins compare to ETH or even BTC, you need HDD to keep farming and HDD dies easily, you need NVME for faster plotting and they have limited TBW, they die pretty fast compares to GPU, graphic cards have longer life span

I dont really know about Chia, the information is mined by Disk Storage is true, many of miner use SSD to do it.
But afaik the process isnt simple since you need to have plot to mine it, i dont really know about it.
Also SSD have a limited lifespan and not as durable as gpu, so becareful about it.

Well to give you an example on BITCOIN there is a call called GetTemplate(), and that's how the miners construct a new block to be mined, the pools could start a block without dev providing this linkage, in the case of CHIA, the dev neglected to implement this code,

YOU understand yet?

yep, but in the CHIA case dev has explicitly told the miners NOT to use un-approved pools, until they release the pool protocol, funny is that the CHINESE had their pool running before chia was even on main-net, nobody every said you needed a blockchain to find private keys

You and no one will complain if $XCH has a price less than $1. Complains and FUDs are abundant because $XCH price is more than $1600.

Have you ever heard of Dfinity project that delayed their airdrop distributions for years. Weeks ago, Internet Computer (ICP) appeared on coinmarketcap with value is above $600.

Life is never fair for all. Follow whales and get money. Just don't join the party too late.

Why developers have to support or own a mining pool?

Since you already have a calculator asking the audience if you will get chia with 50TB or 100TB is not cool, the truth is the calculator is showing you predictions of when to expect a block solved but I've seen many with over 100TB that haven't solve any blocks in months, chia solo mining is gambling

Spend some time watch Bram videos, do some plotting ( mining on chia ), find out for yourself what's really going on, your opinion is based on your feelings, not on reality of having tested or deployed this software on your machines.

I agree they launched, but they were already long delayed, and this project is now from 2017, so its 5 years, I think they found a new finance source in late 2020, and rushed to main-net. The entire issue is the coin was pre-sold in CHINA as an IOU on chinese exchanges where it went from zero to $1600, before it was even launched ( may 5, 2021 )

CHIA-DEV doesn't even support pools, yet the chinese exchanges running the IOU scam, manage to cobble together real life chia-pools months ago.

The truth about chia? You have not a clue.

Bram&team have clearly stated their only goal is the IPO on NYSE, to be the next RedHat for crypto support; Everything is out of their hands; Most troubling is people on youtube ( the west ) are told not use the chinese pools, but in ASIA everybody is making money, and in the west everybody is running solo-mining getting a big zero, and destroying their drives.

IMHO the scam is simple; The chinese own all, they own the xch, and the pools, and bram gets the IPO, its a done deal, and the western supporters who are beta test guinea pigs for the main-net launch get the shaft.

That article is to spread FUDs.

You will see how inaccurate that article is in next two or three months. $XCH will have bigger mining communities and SSD won't be destroyed after 40 days or longer a little. Time will prove that article is written to spread fuds and collect SSDs at cheaper cost.

It is not a scam project but they chose good time to launch their main net. When the market is leading by Dogecoin, meme tokens and tweets of Elon, CHIA team took that chance and hype their coin. CHIA is not a first cryptocurrency that is mineable with hard drives but the biggest successful coin in this branch so far.

Launch at good time, good marketing and has a famous team member.

Products from that project are unknown but people have belief of good products in the future. The belief is reflected into the price.

No its a lie

You plot with an HDD, you will kill the drive, I did it just for fun a few weeks ago, 1tb blue HDD WD, the plot never finished the drive was 100% corrupted, I was able to reformat the drive ( linux )

You plot on a SSD you will kill it SATA SSD's are not designed for random, their controllers are dumb

You plot on a NVME use  980 EVO pro or better, 1TB will allow you to plot 10-20 plots in parallel linux cmd-line per day,

Problem is chia is a scam, their plan is an IPO, the pools are non-existent except in China (HPOOL), and the dev-team for CHIA is hopeless as the code is full of bugs, terrible bugs. Remember they worked on this project  3-6 years, and then rushed to blockchain just a few weeks ago, so the only real testing just started now.

Your $200 NVME will be dead after two weeks of plotting, about 100 plots. Unless you pool on HPOOL you will earn nothing by mining chia as a solo-miner.

If this is the case then it's not worth it SSD is expensive before you can mine 1 Chia you have already spend hundreds of dollars of SSD, there are a lot of hard drive algo and I never read that until now that they are ruining our hard drive, but with the current market price, which is good it's up to miner if it's worth and can he maintain the cost.

Any calculations you do with chia, you should count in the fact that CHIA mining destroys hard drives quickly. The fact that they are trying to market it as an eco friendly solution is just misleading. Also there should be warning labels all over the site saying this:
Techspot: Chia farming can reportedly ruin a 512GB SSD in 40 days

I have seen post who has more drives space for mining chia its because if you have lots of drives or drive space you can mine or get chia I mean higher chance according to those who mine the coin, I'm also surprised with the price it got 1800 when first listed down to 600 after a week now it's already got back up I should have bought the coin since I could not mine it, maybe the price will go up after a while, also you check it in the mining section since there are lots of people who can help you there, good luck in your mining.

hello guys
good time

i have a question :

Do you know how to mining Chia Network with Hard Disk Drive ?

my question is about Mining profit !

in this site https://chiacalculator.com/ writed if you provid 40TB HDD for chia mining, You take profit 1 Chia Monthly, its true ?
its guaranteed ? rellay ?


in many group and forum users write its depend on your channs ! for example maby you cant mining 1 Chia with 100 TB in 4 Months but maby you can mining 1 chia with 50TB in one Months !

can you explain it ?

best wishes