Topic: Mining IP Addresses (Read 337 times)
I think it doesn't exist website that can provide a list of IPs who mine crypto.
I think what he means is one that knows miners' IP addresses can gather and lock them all up. Greetings, the cryptocurrency problem has been solved. Therefore cryptocurrency without onion router isn't a viable concept.
Thanks for the responses guys!!! So from my understanding miners can be in isolated networks and when they need to add the block to a pool then they will contact with the bitcoin nodes, correct? Thanks again guys!!!!
No the miners and pools are conti uously in contact. Probanly at least every minute if not faster contact to receive "work" and the current block height and transactions.
The pools are generally the ones to publish transactions (in every case other than solomining).
Pools servers are generally hard to break into and normally have a backup. I think they've become intelligent enough to host the stratum protocol and the full nodes on the same server and leave everything else to another server as the Web servers seem to get compromised much more easily. They also probably get backed up by dynamic cloud services like aws or azure.
Thanks for the responses guys!!! So from my understanding miners can be in isolated networks and when they need to add the block to a pool then they will contact with the bitcoin nodes, correct? Thanks again guys!!!!
It's also possible (but not that likely) that the miner will only broadcast the mined block to a few peers and let it propagate on its own across the network. In that way, only those peers would have the information, and if they are like regular bitcoin full nodes, they won't store that information for long, or even at all.
How hard would it be to set up an anonymous bitcoin full node running on some VPS or other server which is well connected and has more than 8 peers ...
In practice, miners would prefer their full nodes to have as many connections as possible in order to broadcast their mined block as quickly as possible over the entire network.
I don't think that is all necessary either. Using regular wallet software, transactions are almost instant, getting to 90% of all nodes within seconds. Blocks that are about 1 mb in size would take a little bit longer, but I think even 20 to 30 seconds is more than enough time to broadcast a mined block to 90% of the network.
All you really need is to relay it to one node ... it will propagate to all the others in a cascading fashion.
How hard would it be to set up an anonymous bitcoin full node running on some VPS or other server which is well connected and has more than 8 peers ...
In practice, miners would prefer their full nodes to have as many connections as possible in order to broadcast their mined block as quickly as possible over the entire network.
I don't think that is all necessary either. Using regular wallet software, transactions are almost instant, getting to 90% of all nodes within seconds. Blocks that are about 1 mb in size would take a little bit longer, but I think even 20 to 30 seconds is more than enough time to broadcast a mined block to 90% of the network.
All you really need is to relay it to one node ... it will propagate to all the others in a cascading fashion.
This question could be understood in 2 ways:
1) Whether there is information about the IP addresses of each individual miner working on solving the puzzle or
2) Whether there is information about the IP addresses of those who publish new mined blocks (i.e. solo miner and mining pools)
If it is 1), then you'll only be able to find out their ip addresses if they were sloppy when setting up their network (i.e. not caring about security). You shouldn't be able to find out their IP.
Regarding 2), this information could be retrieved without much hassle. But it fully depends on how they broadcast their blocks. If they broadcast it via the TOR network, you won't find out their clearnet IP. Same applies to if they are using some sort of obfuscation (e.g. VPN / Proxy) to broadcast the blocks.
1) Whether there is information about the IP addresses of each individual miner working on solving the puzzle or
2) Whether there is information about the IP addresses of those who publish new mined blocks (i.e. solo miner and mining pools)
If it is 1), then you'll only be able to find out their ip addresses if they were sloppy when setting up their network (i.e. not caring about security). You shouldn't be able to find out their IP.
Regarding 2), this information could be retrieved without much hassle. But it fully depends on how they broadcast their blocks. If they broadcast it via the TOR network, you won't find out their clearnet IP. Same applies to if they are using some sort of obfuscation (e.g. VPN / Proxy) to broadcast the blocks.
It's possible he's not exactly looking for ip addresses but trying to determine who mined what blocks. Some miners leave a "signature" or the pool's name in the block, or some sort of message indicated they mined that block. This is what is used to determine or estimate the hashrates of the large mining pools or show those nice pie graphs of who is mining what percentage of the blocks in a day or other time frame.
If you're trying to get the individual miners (some of who may have more than one machine pointed to the same pool, and also pointed to different pools), you're not going to see that unless the pool publishes some statistics.
If you're trying to get the individual miners (some of who may have more than one machine pointed to the same pool, and also pointed to different pools), you're not going to see that unless the pool publishes some statistics.
That would be a sinister list if something like that existed in the mining industry. Like what others have already mentioned miners will do their best and try to obfuscate/hide their mining pool's IP address to prevent any kind of attacks. They'll go as far as using CloudFlare, running a node in TOR, using VPN, ans using a proxy just for them to hide their IP addresses. But just to keep the conversation going, why are you interested in knowing their IP addresses? I don't see any good reason why you need to find them out not unless you will use it to sabotage their pools.
Also most of those miners may be behind routers with no packet forwarding available one could reach them (unless you hack the routers, of course).
I believe a lot of miners use pool mining, so the only address you could find would be the pool's. If the miner is big enough, they will use their own pool or stratum and have that on a separate computer or server, and that's the only ip address that would be visible.
Again, it's not part of the protocol, so IP addresses are generally not visible and does not need to be. Any address can be used to broadcast the next mined block and it can even come from a node connected through tor.
Again, it's not part of the protocol, so IP addresses are generally not visible and does not need to be. Any address can be used to broadcast the next mined block and it can even come from a node connected through tor.
not just that, miners will protect their IP addresses because if they reveal it and let anybody know it then they become vulnerable by the competition. for example another pool could do somethings (DDoS or sybil attack,...) and prevent them from broadcasting the blocks they find. that way they gain an edge. they can also isolate the other miner's node so that they either don't find out about new blocks or find out about them too late.
You are looking for a website to find IPs who are mining?
I think it doesn't exist there is no website that can provide a list of IPs who mine Bitcoin or any coins.
It seems that your plan is to brute-force and remote those miners?
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I think it doesn't exist there is no website that can provide a list of IPs who mine Bitcoin or any coins.
It seems that your plan is to brute-force and remote those miners?
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Quote from: Andrew Chow
No, it is not possible. IP addresses are not part of the Bitcoin blockchain in any way whatsoever so this data is simply unavailable.
Source: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/66260/finding-ip-addresses-of-all-bitcoin-miners
What exactly are you looking for? Addresses of every node can be found at bitnodes: https://bitnodes.earn.com/
Since most people mine with pools now it'll be hard to find the ip of those miners.
The pool likely forwarded the block imo and it could go through different explorers, but blockchain.com may still show a "relayed by" function that allows you to find who first sent the block to them but not who first mined it.
Since most people mine with pools now it'll be hard to find the ip of those miners.
The pool likely forwarded the block imo and it could go through different explorers, but blockchain.com may still show a "relayed by" function that allows you to find who first sent the block to them but not who first mined it.
Hi All,
I was wondering if exists a webpage or some site that have all the IP addresses that are mining on the world, is that possible?
Thanks!
I was wondering if exists a webpage or some site that have all the IP addresses that are mining on the world, is that possible?
Thanks!
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