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Phildo

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Quote from: johnyj on May 29, 2015, 07:52:37 AM

Very risky business for miningsweden. In 6 months there will be much more efficient miner entering the market, which will immediately push existing 28nm miners into negative return. In bitcoin mining, if you can not get ROI in 6 months, you will never ROI. When the electricity cost becomes higher than the mining income, the miner will become a paper weight

It's not risky business for them because they get other people to give them cash up front for the miners so they lose all the risk.

johnyj

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Very risky business for miningsweden. In 6 months there will be much more efficient miner entering the market, which will immediately push existing 28nm miners into negative return. In bitcoin mining, if you can not get ROI in 6 months, you will never ROI. When the electricity cost becomes higher than the mining income, the miner will become a paper weight

cryptojumper

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That's at least something if they really buy some miners.., most of cloudmining operations doesn't even bother to buy any hardware at all these days Grin

They have to start somewhere I guess.. Props for them for posting pictures and stuff, I'm still fine with my Hashnest investments, don't care for anything else Tongue

Sine(X)

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What is maintenance (i.e. $/kwh)?

Phildo

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Quote from: coolcoinz on May 20, 2015, 08:37:09 AM

Quote from: Phildo on May 20, 2015, 07:52:23 AM

Why do they need help selling?

How can payouts start an hour after I purchse if they don't have all the hardware? Seems like something that would apply to a ponzi, not a legitimate mining operation.

Maybe they need to manually activate your account or what's more likely their software calculate the profit once per hour and update the client accounts.

That's definitely what's happening and that doesn't seem like a legitimate mining operation to me. If they are using customer money to buy hardware, they can't pay in an hour because they don't have hardware. If they are using hardware they already own, how do they earn (and therefore payout) so consistently?

coolcoinz

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Quote from: Phildo on May 20, 2015, 07:52:23 AM

Why do they need help selling?

How can payouts start an hour after I purchse if they don't have all the hardware? Seems like something that would apply to a ponzi, not a legitimate mining operation.

Maybe they need to manually activate your account or what's more likely their software calculate the profit once per hour and update the client accounts.

Phildo

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Why do they need help selling?

How can payouts start an hour after I purchse if they don't have all the hardware? Seems like something that would apply to a ponzi, not a legitimate mining operation.

yangongear

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Quote from: Phildo on May 19, 2015, 05:37:10 PM

Quote from: yangongear on May 19, 2015, 02:02:32 PM

Quote from: Phildo on May 19, 2015, 01:55:24 PM

VIP shares sounds an awufl like a security to me, will you run into any issues with that?

do you already have 1 PH? Are we buying shares of that or shares of stuff you will be ordering to increase the farm?

What is there an official reseller when there is no actual product being shipped?

First question is forwarded to Tommy @miningsweden.
At this moment miningsweden has not 1PH, Tommy is ordering to increase the farm.
Reseller need a product shipped?

Assistance with shipping is one of the only reasons i can think of to need a reseller. i cannot come up with one for a situation like this.

How does the reseller operation benefit the three parties involved (me, them, you)? Why would I buy from you when I can buy from them? What do they get from letting you resell "shares?" Margins in mining are very thin (if they exist at all), how is there enough for all 3 of us to benefit?

If I buy a share is it a share of currently owned hardware or do I need to wait for it to be bought/shipped before I start earning?

My assistance is help miningsweden with selling.
I hold also VIP shares and when miningsweden grow up, I will get my earnings at end of the Year, from the VIP 25% Company profit. :-)

When you buy shares earnings starts, payout every hour. No need to wait for shipping.
here can you get cheap shares when you are lucky bidder
look at the auctions:

https://www.shopbidsell.com/other-items/gotram/26
or
https://cryptothrift.com/advanced-search/?username=gotram

cryptojumper

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Quote from: anderl on May 19, 2015, 09:40:07 PM

all the transparency still over priced.

I guess it's the price you pay to be legal Tongue

All the super roi offering companies are just ponzi or scams (both most likely). And you can find the middle by just buying from manufacturers like Hashnest (BITMAIN). Problem solved.
This reminds me of genesis-mining a bit with their terrible roi, but much publicity..

anderl

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all the transparency still over priced.

Phildo

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Quote from: yangongear on May 19, 2015, 02:02:32 PM

Quote from: Phildo on May 19, 2015, 01:55:24 PM

VIP shares sounds an awufl like a security to me, will you run into any issues with that?

do you already have 1 PH? Are we buying shares of that or shares of stuff you will be ordering to increase the farm?

What is there an official reseller when there is no actual product being shipped?

First question is forwarded to Tommy @miningsweden.
At this moment miningsweden has not 1PH, Tommy is ordering to increase the farm.
Reseller need a product shipped?

Assistance with shipping is one of the only reasons i can think of to need a reseller. i cannot come up with one for a situation like this.

How does the reseller operation benefit the three parties involved (me, them, you)? Why would I buy from you when I can buy from them? What do they get from letting you resell "shares?" Margins in mining are very thin (if they exist at all), how is there enough for all 3 of us to benefit?

If I buy a share is it a share of currently owned hardware or do I need to wait for it to be bought/shipped before I start earning?

miaviator

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It's for the children!

Quote from: yangongear on May 19, 2015, 01:46:17 PM

Quote from: miaviator on May 17, 2015, 03:34:06 PM

So this operation is a Garza Production?

MiningSweden is located in Sweden and not in Dubai. ;-)

OK. Props for that answer. Thank you.

yangongear

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Quote from: yangongear on May 19, 2015, 01:53:13 PM

Iam not a duck. Tongue

You need a comedy series.....

Feel free to make one.

yangongear

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Quote from: Phildo on May 19, 2015, 01:55:24 PM

VIP shares sounds an awufl like a security to me, will you run into any issues with that?

do you already have 1 PH? Are we buying shares of that or shares of stuff you will be ordering to increase the farm?

What is there an official reseller when there is no actual product being shipped?

First question is forwarded to Tommy @miningsweden.
At this moment miningsweden has not 1PH, Tommy is ordering to increase the farm.
Reseller need a product shipped?

Phildo

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VIP shares sounds an awufl like a security to me, will you run into any issues with that?

do you already have 1 PH? Are we buying shares of that or shares of stuff you will be ordering to increase the farm?

What is there an official reseller when there is no actual product being shipped?

yangongear

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Quote from: I_IZ_CEO on May 17, 2015, 11:46:59 PM

I wouldn't go near this with miaviator's pole. Shocked

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Iam not a duck. Tongue

yangongear

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Quote from: miaviator on May 17, 2015, 04:37:39 PM

Quote from: salmion on May 17, 2015, 04:25:06 PM

Quote from: miaviator on May 17, 2015, 03:34:06 PM

So this operation is a Garza Production?

Seen it posted in other forums. I'd be surprised if this was a garzashitduction - lacks the sugary fake promises.

https://www.miningsweden.se/

Quote

Mining Sweden does not intend on making promises it cannot deliver.
However, we cannot do this without your initial help. We need to be
able to purchase 1 PH worth of mining equipment. After this is
successful, we will start to fulfill our promises.

You will be able to purchase “VIP shares (TM)” which gives you 5
GH of SHA-256 algorithm mining power and a share in the company’s
profits. 25% of the profit will be distributed proportionately
amongst holders of the limited stock of 100,000 “VIP shares (TM).”

The 25% includes profit from all the other services we will offer.

Join us on our venture and be a part of community-built business.
Don’t forget to buy your “VIP shares (TM)” today!

Are these lifetime contracts or limited time?

What is the cost basis for maintenance and administrative overhead?

VIP part which giveout 25% are lifetime.
Shares are also for lifetime, but after one Year you have 2 alternative options to
chose:
1. Keep the hashrate at current hardware and pay for electricity for
another year.
2. Upgrade to newer hardware at a discount, which then would have
again all costs included for the upcoming year.

yangongear

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Quote from: miaviator on May 17, 2015, 03:34:06 PM

So this operation is a Garza Production?

MiningSweden is located in Sweden and not in Dubai. ;-)

jdebunt

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Quote from: I_IZ_CEO on May 17, 2015, 11:46:59 PM

I wouldn't go near this with miaviator's pole. Shocked

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

I genuinely think people are seeing too many ducks around these days

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Quote from: I_IZ_CEO on May 17, 2015, 11:46:59 PM

I wouldn't go near this with miaviator's pole. Shocked

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Nah, I think they re legit, just small scale and do not have all the info.

For example, they are not even 1 year old so they do not know what s 25% company profit going to look like for these VIP shares.

I_IZ_CEO

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I wouldn't go near this with miaviator's pole. Shocked

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

miaviator

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It's for the children!

Quote from: salmion on May 17, 2015, 04:25:06 PM

Quote from: miaviator on May 17, 2015, 03:34:06 PM

So this operation is a Garza Production?

Seen it posted in other forums. I'd be surprised if this was a garzashitduction - lacks the sugary fake promises.

https://www.miningsweden.se/

Quote

Mining Sweden does not intend on making promises it cannot deliver.
However, we cannot do this without your initial help. We need to be
able to purchase 1 PH worth of mining equipment. After this is
successful, we will start to fulfill our promises.

You will be able to purchase “VIP shares (TM)” which gives you 5
GH of SHA-256 algorithm mining power and a share in the company’s
profits. 25% of the profit will be distributed proportionately
amongst holders of the limited stock of 100,000 “VIP shares (TM).”

The 25% includes profit from all the other services we will offer.

Join us on our venture and be a part of community-built business.
Don’t forget to buy your “VIP shares (TM)” today!

Are these lifetime contracts or limited time?

What is the cost basis for maintenance and administrative overhead?

salmion

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Quote from: miaviator on May 17, 2015, 03:34:06 PM

So this operation is a Garza Production?

Seen it posted in other forums. I'd be surprised if this was a garzashitduction - lacks the sugary fake promises.

miaviator

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It's for the children!

So this operation is a Garza Production?

jdebunt

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Quote from: crazyivan on May 16, 2015, 07:42:11 AM

So what is ROI per regular share?

Not sure if my calculations are correct, but I'm looking at roughly 483 days oO

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Quote from: jdebunt on May 16, 2015, 04:17:31 AM

Quote from: crazyivan on May 16, 2015, 03:06:51 AM

So you guys still have no idea about VIP shares and their payouts? Not trying to criticize this, I m sure they are legit and trying to build a farm. However, before investing, I would like to have all pieces of info.

Well not exactly no. The price per regular mining share is all the same, as yangongear posted.

But in regards to the profit sharing, your guess is as good as mine unfortunately.

So what is ROI per regular share?

jdebunt

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Quote from: crazyivan on May 16, 2015, 03:06:51 AM

So you guys still have no idea about VIP shares and their payouts? Not trying to criticize this, I m sure they are legit and trying to build a farm. However, before investing, I would like to have all pieces of info.

Well not exactly no. The price per regular mining share is all the same, as yangongear posted.

But in regards to the profit sharing, your guess is as good as mine unfortunately.

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Quote from: jdebunt on May 15, 2015, 03:47:52 PM

ROI with Mining Sweden also depends on whether or not you buy VIP shares, as these supposedly give you a share of their profits

(Not saying you should buy these, just providing info)

So you guys still have no idea about VIP shares and their payouts? Not trying to criticize this, I m sure they are legit and trying to build a farm. However, before investing, I would like to have all pieces of info.

jdebunt

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ROI with Mining Sweden also depends on whether or not you buy VIP shares, as these supposedly give you a share of their profits

(Not saying you should buy these, just providing info)

yangongear

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Quote from: crazyivan on May 15, 2015, 12:50:25 PM

Quote from: yangongear on May 15, 2015, 12:45:06 PM

Quote from: crazyivan on May 15, 2015, 12:39:15 PM

You ve forgotten to add one single piece of info.

Expected ROI?

Sorry, ROI was eaten by gotram

So no data about expected ROI? I have no doubt these guys are legit but since you use them it would be nice to share some numbers. After all we re not here to support new farms with our money but to get some theoretical ROI. So pls, share your experience, what do you get paid per share on average and what is expected ROI?

Every sane potential investor s going to ask that first.

Payouts you can find on https://www.miningsweden.se/payouts/
Current BTC value from 2015-05-04 0.00001056 BTC per day and GH

ROI calculation I use this site https://tradeblock.com/mining

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Quote from: yangongear on May 15, 2015, 12:45:06 PM

Quote from: crazyivan on May 15, 2015, 12:39:15 PM

You ve forgotten to add one single piece of info.

Expected ROI?

Sorry, ROI was eaten by gotram

So no data about expected ROI? I have no doubt these guys are legit but since you use them it would be nice to share some numbers. After all we re not here to support new farms with our money but to get some theoretical ROI. So pls, share your experience, what do you get paid per share on average and what is expected ROI?

Every sane potential investor s going to ask that first.

jdebunt

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