missing ONE WORD of my WAVES seed phrase, is there a chance?

abcdfGEEZ

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Hi,

I got 14 of 15 words of my WAVES seed phrase. I dont know the position of the missing word, i do have the public key...

So odds arent too bad right? is there a tool that I can use? I bet I am not the first noob to have this kind of problem...

Thanks in advance for any helpful answer

Should be brute forceable quite easily. As Danny said on top, there are 2048 words in the seed wordlist - you can find them here - https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/bip-0039-wordlists.md and 30,720 total possibilities - a python based script should be able to work it out quite quickly.

Hi thanks for answering.

Same question as for Danny, are the waves seed set of words different?

We are talking 800 waves so not the world for now but i can see waves at 50$ this year and the butthurt will only grow.

No, it's the same set of 2048 words. A script should be fairly simple to get done. Here's one - https://github.com/PyWaves/pywavestools/blob/master/address_generator.py#L225 - which checks possible seeds with addresses and can be modified to meet your particular case.

It worked, a friend of mine did it! Thanks for your help!

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Quote from: abcdfGEEZ on February 13, 2018, 01:37:53 PM

Hi,

I got 14 of 15 words of my WAVES seed phrase. I dont know the position of the missing word, i do have the public key...

So odds arent too bad right? is there a tool that I can use? I bet I am not the first noob to have this kind of problem...

Thanks in advance for any helpful answer

Should be brute forceable quite easily. As Danny said on top, there are 2048 words in the seed wordlist - you can find them here - https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/bip-0039-wordlists.md and 30,720 total possibilities - a python based script should be able to work it out quite quickly.

This is a pretty easy script to assemble for someone who is able to code. You could probably even do it with a php script. If you cannot yourself, look for a friend who can.

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Quote from: abcdfGEEZ on February 13, 2018, 01:37:53 PM

Hi,

I got 14 of 15 words of my WAVES seed phrase. I dont know the position of the missing word, i do have the public key...

So odds arent too bad right? is there a tool that I can use? I bet I am not the first noob to have this kind of problem...

Thanks in advance for any helpful answer

Should be brute forceable quite easily. As Danny said on top, there are 2048 words in the seed wordlist - you can find them here - https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/bip-0039-wordlists.md and 30,720 total possibilities - a python based script should be able to work it out quite quickly.

Hi thanks for answering.

Same question as for Danny, are the waves seed set of words different?

We are talking 800 waves so not the world for now but i can see waves at 50$ this year and the butthurt will only grow.

No, it's the same set of 2048 words. A script should be fairly simple to get done. Here's one - https://github.com/PyWaves/pywavestools/blob/master/address_generator.py#L225 - which checks possible seeds with addresses and can be modified to meet your particular case.

Thanks, looks like what I was searching for. I will try to understand this. What kind of program do I need to run this kind of code?

It's written in python. You can run it on the terminal on the Mac/command line on Windows or use an Integrated Development Environment (IDE) like PyCharm. If you wish to learn, you can get started here - https://www.codecademy.com/catalog/language/python

Security tip : Before running any code, make sure you understand what each line does.

I really appreciate your help. I will dive into it. Luckily I know a developer that can give me a hand. I will let you guys know how if/how it worked!

abcdfGEEZ

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Just curious, how did you lose one random word of your Waves seed? All you had to do was click copy and save it somewhere. Even if you accidentally copied only 14 words, they would be consecutive so you know you're either missing the 1st word or the last word.

I wrote it down by hand, and copied another time by hand and destroyed the first. How I could lose a word in the process, dont ask me.

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Just curious, how did you lose one random word of your Waves seed? All you had to do was click copy and save it somewhere. Even if you accidentally copied only 14 words, they would be consecutive so you know you're either missing the 1st word or the last word.

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Quote from: abcdfGEEZ on February 13, 2018, 01:37:53 PM

Hi,

I got 14 of 15 words of my WAVES seed phrase. I dont know the position of the missing word, i do have the public key...

So odds arent too bad right? is there a tool that I can use? I bet I am not the first noob to have this kind of problem...

Thanks in advance for any helpful answer

Should be brute forceable quite easily. As Danny said on top, there are 2048 words in the seed wordlist - you can find them here - https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/bip-0039-wordlists.md and 30,720 total possibilities - a python based script should be able to work it out quite quickly.

Hi thanks for answering.

Same question as for Danny, are the waves seed set of words different?

We are talking 800 waves so not the world for now but i can see waves at 50$ this year and the butthurt will only grow.

No, it's the same set of 2048 words. A script should be fairly simple to get done. Here's one - https://github.com/PyWaves/pywavestools/blob/master/address_generator.py#L225 - which checks possible seeds with addresses and can be modified to meet your particular case.

Thanks, looks like what I was searching for. I will try to understand this. What kind of program do I need to run this kind of code?

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Quote from: abcdfGEEZ on February 13, 2018, 01:37:53 PM

Hi,

I got 14 of 15 words of my WAVES seed phrase. I dont know the position of the missing word, i do have the public key...

So odds arent too bad right? is there a tool that I can use? I bet I am not the first noob to have this kind of problem...

Thanks in advance for any helpful answer

There are 2048 possible words to choose from for the missing word.

There are 15 positions that the missing word could be in.

That's 2048 X 15 = 30,720 possibilities total.

I'm not sure if there is a tool, but it wouldn't be difficult to create one, and it shouldn't take more than a few minutes for a modern computer to try all 30,720 possibilities.

I believe that a simple coding will go trough that list of combination rather quickly ( anyways, more quicker than the average human). Python seems a good tool to implement the code

abcdfGEEZ

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Quote from: JumboCactuar on February 13, 2018, 03:59:38 PM

^ as someone said up top

As he knows 14/15 words,he can generate the possible combinations and bruteforce it with a tool.

I don't know of any such tool but someone could do it at a small price

Exactly!

I think I found just the right motivation now to learn how to code. I was wanting to but didnt really find an entrance.

Since the number of options is within the physically possible threshold to calculate and the ecuadion basicalle is “14 words plus 1 in 15 possible positions = public key” I think its a good first task.

The recobery tool for waves shows you the public key that corresponds to the seed tou are entering.

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^ as someone said up top

As he knows 14/15 words,he can generate the possible combinations and bruteforce it with a tool.

I don't know of any such tool but someone could do it at a small price

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Oh! That's hard because, Because you have too many words you need to talk about. Good luck, but it looks like no hope of recovering your wallet seeds. So it should be a lesson to you to be careful and always keep your wallet seeds in good condition as soon as it's gone you can not open your wallet

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Quote from: abcdfGEEZ on February 13, 2018, 01:37:53 PM

Hi,

I got 14 of 15 words of my WAVES seed phrase. I dont know the position of the missing word, i do have the public key...

So odds arent too bad right? is there a tool that I can use? I bet I am not the first noob to have this kind of problem...

Thanks in advance for any helpful answer

Should be brute forceable quite easily. As Danny said on top, there are 2048 words in the seed wordlist - you can find them here - https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/bip-0039-wordlists.md and 30,720 total possibilities - a python based script should be able to work it out quite quickly.

Hi thanks for answering.

Same question as for Danny, are the waves seed set of words different?

We are talking 800 waves so not the world for now but i can see waves at 50$ this year and the butthurt will only grow.

abcdfGEEZ

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Quote from: DannyHamilton on February 13, 2018, 02:20:04 PM

Quote from: abcdfGEEZ on February 13, 2018, 01:37:53 PM

Hi,

I got 14 of 15 words of my WAVES seed phrase. I dont know the position of the missing word, i do have the public key...

So odds arent too bad right? is there a tool that I can use? I bet I am not the first noob to have this kind of problem...

Thanks in advance for any helpful answer

There are 2048 possible words to choose from for the missing word.

There are 15 positions that the missing word could be in.

That's 2048 X 15 = 30,720 possibilities total.

I'm not sure if there is a tool, but it wouldn't be difficult to create one, and it shouldn't take more than a few minutes for a modern computer to try all 30,720 possibilities.

Thanks for your answer, very helpful!

Is it important thats its a waves wallet and nit bitcoin?

Maybe i will have to learn how to code now

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Morelikely you wont have a chance to recover your investments because it will take a lot of years before you finally got the last word combination.I dont know how did you lose that one word phrase which is unacceptable because you have already the 14.There is no way or tool that might help your situation you should move on now.

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Quote from: DannyHamilton on February 13, 2018, 02:20:04 PM

Quote from: abcdfGEEZ on February 13, 2018, 01:37:53 PM

Hi,

I got 14 of 15 words of my WAVES seed phrase. I dont know the position of the missing word, i do have the public key...

So odds arent too bad right? is there a tool that I can use? I bet I am not the first noob to have this kind of problem...

Thanks in advance for any helpful answer

There are 2048 possible words to choose from for the missing word.

There are 15 positions that the missing word could be in.

That's 2048 X 15 = 30,720 possibilities total.

I'm not sure if there is a tool, but it wouldn't be difficult to create one, and it shouldn't take more than a few minutes for a modern computer to try all 30,720 possibilities.

If so, OP can access his or her wallet, just need a tool for this process but it might cost a lot I don't know, the amount of money in your wallet is important as well.

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Good luck to you man! Hope you find some solution to this really odd problem, for i too havent heard anything like this before.

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Quote from: abcdfGEEZ on February 13, 2018, 01:37:53 PM

Hi,

I got 14 of 15 words of my WAVES seed phrase. I dont know the position of the missing word, i do have the public key...

So odds arent too bad right? is there a tool that I can use? I bet I am not the first noob to have this kind of problem...

Thanks in advance for any helpful answer

That is odd why would you missed one word from 15word see phrase?there would be less chance for you to get it back.Seed phrases should be kept like what we are doing in our private keys so if something wrong happened we can easily recover any of our holdings.Actually you are the first one who had this problem,you shouldnt lose any of these imprant details.

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Quote from: abcdfGEEZ on February 13, 2018, 01:37:53 PM

Hi,

I got 14 of 15 words of my WAVES seed phrase. I dont know the position of the missing word, i do have the public key...

So odds arent too bad right? is there a tool that I can use? I bet I am not the first noob to have this kind of problem...

Thanks in advance for any helpful answer

There are 2048 possible words to choose from for the missing word.

There are 15 positions that the missing word could be in.

That's 2048 X 15 = 30,720 possibilities total.

I'm not sure if there is a tool, but it wouldn't be difficult to create one, and it shouldn't take more than a few minutes for a modern computer to try all 30,720 possibilities.

abcdfGEEZ

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Hi,

I got 14 of 15 words of my WAVES seed phrase. I dont know the position of the missing word, i do have the public key...

So odds arent too bad right? is there a tool that I can use? I bet I am not the first noob to have this kind of problem...

Thanks in advance for any helpful answer

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