Topic: [MIWGR] Micro Investment with Guaranteed Returns (Read 2224 times)

Thank You 

Rating removed, not because of progress, but because I dont think anyone will bite and the section rating should be sufficient.

Please review my contribution/involvement  to the bitcoin community in the last 30 days, and reconsider your ratings as promised.

Thanks for the list, I did contact master-P and moonbux. master-P refused, was waiting for moonbux.

No, you have negative trust because you promise a guaranteed profit, you have no previous credentials (comes with being a newbie) and you cant seem to explain simply how you plan to earn the coins or how your system works. The last part usually indicates that you dont understand your system well enough yourself.


I wonder, how is the progress in this regard? Did you contact anyone reputable[1]?

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/escrow-list-108716

If you read carefully, this is nothing to be lost, its very clear. The is simple risk-reward ratio. The less you risk or the more you insure, lesser your profit share.


Negative trust was made just for posting here, and being a newbie.



For this reason, I wanted to use 2 of 2 or even 2 of 3  multisig address with  trusted member(s) of this forum, to hold the insured amount of the investors. This would have assured you, but till now have not found a trusted member ready for such escrow.

Same to me. No meaning to take money for investments and to leave those unused in a wallet in the name of warranty. Who taken then? Then warranty or not if the other money are lost for which serve the warranty. They will be mine whatever will be your result of your investment. So better in my wallet than in yours. Maybe you will be tempted to not give those to me at all...

To many calculation mate. Everyone can be lost on those. Especially when see your negative trust. Me, for example don't understand nothing about your calculations and seems to weird for me. Or at least I see that you many of the bitcoins don't use but leave as a warranty. Why must give you my money for warranty. Who assure me that that money will be back to me? So I prefer to take my bitcoin safe in my wallet. Better in my wallet as a warranty then in your wallet as your money. Don't you think so?

I have already answered it before, but once again for you. The profit from the operations is shared inversely to percentage of insurance of the total amount invested.



That is, if a person A invests 0.2 BTC and marks 70 % as insurance

His/her 0.14 BTC would be safe at cold wallet, and never be used for trading,

Thus enabling withdrawal of insured money in-case of loss.

Accordingly his Profit Share would reduced as per the table given in the top post
of this thread --

Profit Share = 98 % - (Guaranteed % - 20 %) * 1.3
                    = 98 % - (70 % - 20 %) * 1.3
        
                    = 33 %

That means, if 0.50 BTC of profit is made over total invested sum (from all investors) of 2 BTC.

His Profit would be = (Investment fraction) * (Profit Fraction) * (Profit Share % / 100)

                              = (0.2/2) * (0.5/2) * (0.33)

                              =  0.00825 BTC



If that person A invests 0.2 BTC and marks 30 % as insurance

His 0.06 BTC would be safe at cold wallet, and never be used for trading.

Accordingly his Profit Share would increased as per the table given in the top post
of this thread --

Profit Share = 98 % - (Guaranteed % - 20 %) * 1.3
                    = 98 % - (30 % - 20 %) * 1.3
        
                    = 85 %

That means, if 0.50 BTC of profit is made over total invested sum (from all investors) of 2 BTC.

His Profit would be = (Investment fraction) * (Profit Fraction) * (Profit Share % / 100)

                              = (0.2/2) * (0.5/2) * (0.85)

                              =  0.02125 BTC

Its all real, before you 

Yes, that  is really amazing, so it is ponzi without end ? :DD

Ok man just do not lie to us please. It is unreal, I though that ponzi with low deposit could work, but when you write that about it, it's obvls it is scam.

yes you are wrong

hmm your newbie with 1post and its going on here
i think its account the op 
sorry if wrong think

No websites as of now.

Process of Investment

Send Investment to 1DX26yvjEj2fXGK1pgfGeThWycDgjqZ4sv

Reply to this thread with investment details, in this format ..


Format of Investment (only by post/reply to this thread)

Investment : ***  bits

Transaction id : ...

Insured % : ** %

Withdrawal Address : 1xx.....

Hey, how im going to invest? Any website add?

Site will be made once trust is established here, I am trying my best to keep it fully transparent. I can't change your belief now,
But it will surely change once you see the operation in action 

I think making a site with your "investment scheme" will help you attract investors but still i believe it's a scam.

1 bit = 100 satoshi

So 100 bits means 10 000 Satoshi

100 bits means 10 000 Satoshi or 1000 Satoshi

I received the following PM:


My answer is: Contact me again in 30 days, not sooner. I will see what you did in the time given and reconsider my rating based on that.

 my bad it's mbtc I thought its btc. I mistook that.

Your all the points are valid, that's why, I want to use multisig address for this scheme, with trusted members of this forum.

investment is small but if theres like a 100 users here send you mBTC its big when pooled.
i suggest that you build a trust here first since your account is just new and even your deposit address seems no activity yet.

Payment would be bi-weekly, but you can ask for withdrawal any time.
Withdrawal would Include, any profit gained by that time.


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My trust level had been downgraded, just on assumption.

To increase trust, I am ready to use multi-signature address, with  trusted established users of this forum, for all purposes of this scheme.

Ok admin, so I guess I'm slow to understand, but what's the payout and how long before I get paid after depositing?

Let's say I deposit 0.1BTC. When will you pay out and how much.

That amount is held as security deposit, in lieu of the corresponding share in any  profits made.



100 bits = 3 cents is too high ?


Guarantee is for not loosing coins, and guaranteed percent of total investment is user defined.

minimum investment is too high for a risky investment. I doubt someone will invest if there is a guarantee that somehow we can loose our coins.

If I don't make any profit from the 50% insurance funds then why should I send those coins to you? instead I can keep safely with me right?

For example your total investment is 100 bits, and your requested insurance of 50 %.

In this case, only 50 bits will be used for trading purposes, and 50 bits will be left,

untouched at 1DX26yvjEj2fXGK1pgfGeThWycDgjqZ4sv , thus insuring guaranteed

returns, for the 50 % of the total investment, even in failure.

Guaranteed return, in-case of Loss - what is this means?

In case of loss from where you will pay back all investors?

Your a new member to this forum how to trust you? there are many unanswered questions and I don't think you will get single investment from here.

Minimum Investment : 100 bits  ( 0.1 mBTC ) = 0.0001 BTC

Withdrawal Fees : 10 bits


Core of Scheme -

1. Use of funds, which are not guaranteed/insured, to trade bitcoin, cryptos, fiat.

2. Distribute Profit among investors, inversely with the percentage of their funds, which are
    guaranteed/insured.

3. Ratio for guaranteed part of investment, to corresponding profit share percentage is -

    *  For Guarantee of 20 % or less of Total Investment -> Profit Share = 98 %

    *  For Guarantee of 80 % or more of Total Investment -> Profit Share = 20 %

    *  For Guarantee of 80 % to 20 %  of Total Investment -> Profit Share = 98 % - (Guaranteed % - 20 %) * 1.3


4. Enable withdrawal of minimum percentage of original investment, which was requested to be
    guaranteed/insured.



Unique Investment Advantages -

1. Guaranteed return, in-case of Loss

2. Full / Partial Withdrawal anytime, on request

3. Insured/ guaranteed part of investment is untouched at the 2 of 2 multisig address 3DreUNQM9qyTr5zBLsLb6jJW3CwecvH9v5, for
    enabling withdrawal in-case of loss.

2 of 2 multisig
Redeem Script
522102b6231cc602740c29436eafbb6448880f4058cc3d2745c709deee31310467827721029fc6d e6afde9dae3cb9be2d7f7f554ed0ce1269f79c68ff4afa19374a8bd749a52ae

Addresses involved
coinb.in dev OutCast3k - ([email protected]) - 1FRUYyxUnkzy7xDZR148nJMaMSxU9xEJTD
My address - 1DX26yvjEj2fXGK1pgfGeThWycDgjqZ4sv

4. Bi-weekly Report of Profit/Loss, every alternate Friday.

5. Full Disclosure of all trades made.


Format of Investment (only by post/reply to this thread)

Investment : 500 bits

Transaction id for Insured : ...

Transaction id for uninsured : ..

Insured % : 50 %

Withdrawal Address : 1xx.....

Send Insured part of Investment to 3DreUNQM9qyTr5zBLsLb6jJW3CwecvH9v5

Send Un-insured part of Investment to 1DX26yvjEj2fXGK1pgfGeThWycDgjqZ4sv


Format of Withdrawal

Investment : 500 bits

Insured % : 50 %

Withdrawal Amount : 100 bits

Withdrawal Address : 1xx.....



# You won't probably get a single investment, because you don't even have any website nor free website.

Having a website doesn't prove anything, many HYIP pyramid schemes regularly close their websites.


# I'm sorry, but multi signature addy won't prove anything about you and your "micro investment scheme"

It will prove credibility, as every withdrawal would require the sign of the trusted and established cosigner.
I cannot runaway with the insured money without his/her signature in any case.


# Can you please explain one thing to me? How in the world would multi sig address help you to prove that you are not scammer?
Suppose if I use (2 of 2) multisig address with a trusted member, than any withdrawal transaction from that address would also require, signing by that
trusted member.

The insured amount of any investor will not be used for trading purposes, and will reside securely at the multisig address. The insured can only be unlocked by the signature of the participating trusted member. In other words, the participating trusted member, guarantees the insured amount of every investor.


# I thought it's some sort of altcoin trading with small amounts or a gambling method / strategy, but when I saw "Send Investment to 1DX26yvjEj2fXGK1pgfGeThWycDgjqZ4sv" I was really disappointed. Seriously people? What is with you? Why do you scam for 10000 satoshi, 3 cents? Why? What is the purpose of this, you can't even earn some serious money from this scam like owner of BTC-Flow did.

To be clear, I am not here for any scam. The address 1DX26yvjEj2fXGK1pgfGeThWycDgjqZ4sv , is just for accepting investment money.  To fairly prove that its not a scam, I am using multi sig address for the insured part of investment,


# 10k satoshi investments sounds like and is probably complete bs. great piece of advice for people is to take everything that is said on here especially with a grain of salt, as some people like this guy just try to take advantage of the newbies here.
 
For not sounding complete bs, I am using multi-signature address, with a trusted  member