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Topic: Mixing while ongoing withdrawal (Read 493 times)

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September 06, 2016, 03:57:03 PM
#7
Thank you! The .io sites, Bitmixer and Cryptomixer seem to be nice mixers that have the feature that I need. If I get to know something to worth mention about them, I will do it in a new thread, but for now I find them alright. Anyway, I will be cautious with them.
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September 06, 2016, 03:56:24 PM
#6
If a government agency wanted to be able to track the movement of bitcoins used for "shady" transactions, wouldn't they just set up and run one of the most reliable and trusted "mixers" around?  Then they would be in full control over the transactions and could easily determine who is using the bitcoins, and what they are using them for.

So then I'm curious, how can you be sure that the mixing service you are using isn't keeping any logs of your bitcoin movements?  How can you be sure that they aren't turning those logs over to whomever you're trying to hide from?  How can you be certain that whomever you're trying to hide from isn't running the mixing service itself?

Even if you could be sure that they aren't logging what you are doing, and could be sure that they aren't run by anyone you might want to hide from, how can you be certain that they are mixing well enough to prevent a forensic accounting analysis from determining the connections?

Yeah, that's very possible.
I only use mixers to obstruct my bitcoins from "normal" users and not government level forensics. Not sure about other people however.
legendary
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September 06, 2016, 03:28:40 PM
#5
If a government agency wanted to be able to track the movement of bitcoins used for "shady" transactions, wouldn't they just set up and run one of the most reliable and trusted "mixers" around?  Then they would be in full control over the transactions and could easily determine who is using the bitcoins, and what they are using them for.

So then I'm curious, how can you be sure that the mixing service you are using isn't keeping any logs of your bitcoin movements?  How can you be sure that they aren't turning those logs over to whomever you're trying to hide from?  How can you be certain that whomever you're trying to hide from isn't running the mixing service itself?

Even if you could be sure that they aren't logging what you are doing, and could be sure that they aren't run by anyone you might want to hide from, how can you be certain that they are mixing well enough to prevent a forensic accounting analysis from determining the connections?
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September 06, 2016, 03:18:32 PM
#4
You're asking what a service will do if you send them unconfirmed bitcoins. We can't answer that without knowing their rules and policy.

Edit:
I misunderstood the question. My answer above still stands but most mixer services allows you to generate another address for mixing, you can use that.

Thank you for your help! Would you mind sharing one or more examples with me for mixing services that allow generating new address that works while withdrawal is being processed on the previous one?

Bitmixer.io is one, I use it a lot and never got any problem so far.
[banned mixer] allows you to do this but I only used it once to compare it with bitmixer.io.

Both of them have letter of guarantee. Make sure to download and verify the letter before sending anything.

There are others but I've never used them and they kinda look shady (e.g bitcoinmixer.net looks a lot like bitmixer.io).
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September 06, 2016, 03:04:59 PM
#3
You're asking what a service will do if you send them unconfirmed bitcoins. We can't answer that without knowing their rules and policy.

Edit:
I misunderstood the question. My answer above still stands but most mixer services allows you to generate another address for mixing, you can use that.

Thank you for your help! Would you mind sharing one or more examples with me for mixing services that allow generating new address that works while withdrawal is being processed on the previous one?
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September 06, 2016, 12:26:05 PM
#2
You're asking what a service will do if you send them unconfirmed bitcoins. We can't answer that without knowing their rules and policy.

Edit:
I misunderstood the question. My answer above still stands but most mixer services allows you to generate another address for mixing, you can use that.
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Activity: 102
Merit: 10
September 06, 2016, 12:04:38 PM
#1
Hello! Can I send more BTC to a mixer service while the withdrawal transaction is not accomplished ( fully confirmed ) or do I have to wait the last confirmation everytime? I'm using a BTC mixer and since I prefer cheap process, I'm using low transaction fee, which makes my transactions slow still I'm impatient enough to want to send more BTC to mix while there's ongoing withdrawal. Is that possible?
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