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Topic: Mnemonic is no longer safe? (Read 615 times)

legendary
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November 08, 2022, 10:32:18 AM
#70
Here is the thing, it came down to the possibility percentage. You are aware of near-zero address collision as you have quoted on OP.

While on the other hand, you stated your friend works on "cyber of bank". Don't know what that means, but I suppose cyber-related security. In the latest post above, your friend mainly talked on the Metamask layer, so I bet he hasn't fully checked his full device. My point is, as I have once said, the possibility of it getting hacked due to device infiltration is way higher than an address collision. We can rule out mnemonic address generation since it is indeed safe if it is done right.
hero member
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November 08, 2022, 08:16:45 AM
#69
The thing we have to understand is that there is no perfect system, after time there will be gaps and gaps will be found and the program will automatically fix it, we should never be surprised when someone saves assets in a wallet using mnemonic and after checking it turns out the asset is lost stolen.
It depends on what system or application you use for keeping assets. A lot of application out there is created by scammer to a traping newbie or user who doesn't know how to keep assets. The trick they use is hiding the trap, the scammer said is save, after that the scammer bringing the new user to keep the mnemonic they did create on paper. So, don't use the new application, let's use the application where many people here use it.
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November 07, 2022, 07:22:55 PM
#68
MNEMONIC is somewhat safe
It is really Very much Difficult for individual to Encode the Mnemonic/Private key through Address or Transaction hash
But yes super Computer can encode it probably
I Think your Friends had used Some pirated/mod apk that's in the form of Mallicios It is also very important to store the Mnemonic in the safe place and Remember Storing in pc or Mobile is really a bad idea
That's the worst part of the Decenterlized Ecosystem we just can't report if someone had stolen our fund that's just too much privacy i believe, although i always prefer Decenterlized over Centerlized

CONCLUSION You can Purchase a Hardware wallet to store your Fund or You can create a Multi sign request but Just Remember nothing is safe if you have Internet connection
legendary
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November 05, 2022, 06:04:38 AM
#67
I'm confused, mnemonic pharse isn't immune against malware or viruses, why you're linking a hack because of malware or viruses and the security of mnemonic pharse? it's similar like saying why mnemonic pharse can't protect against $5 wrench attack.

Can we as a community take any step to freeze that account?
As a community, we can't since the only one who can freeze that coins are depends on each creator of the coin or if the address is come from centralized exchange, the team of that's centralized exchange can freeze the account.
full member
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November 05, 2022, 05:48:09 AM
#66
The thing we have to understand is that there is no perfect system, after time there will be gaps and gaps will be found and the program will automatically fix it, we should never be surprised when someone saves assets in a wallet using mnemonic and after checking it turns out the asset is lost stolen.
newbie
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November 05, 2022, 12:15:42 AM
#65
The same incident happen with me on 28th October and the recipient address is same. what i can see is all the stolen tokens are still there. Can we as a community take any step to freeze that account?
newbie
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November 03, 2022, 09:41:43 PM
#64
I have did bit a research then I reach NEX(I found out by ENS Domain and hit em at Twitter)

S/he let me to share the statement.
Here's for big point.
Code:
*Yeah I legit have no idea. I even had quit.qoots look into it.
Haven't minted anything degen, haven't connected wallet to anything other than blur and valhalla recently.

The hack was also very strange. It happened 5am my time, I was asleep. I woke up at 6.

I had 49 assets in the wallet. They onky floored 7 Metashima. There were more of that asset, and other decent valued ones they didn't touch.

They then drained the eth and weth

*So my metamask is just a plug in browser. I don't logon to a site for it.
And I don't do staking, 100% haven't tried to redeem any NFTs or tokens.

*I'm also at over 100 days of browser history checks, so far nothing.

*I simply login with a password through my metamask wallet on a browser extension

*I have them saved, but written physically and separated.


Still unsolved, but let time talking the truth...
newbie
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October 24, 2022, 09:31:23 PM
#63
Not mean to ignore those your care of feedback.

My friends is work for cyber of bank, so if you are things malware/virus how came he can't detect that?.

1 address/key was hacked, other is still safe.

I will lock the thread, will open once someone want to share.
legendary
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October 23, 2022, 07:36:45 PM
#62
Your friend doesn't tell you everything. It's technically difficult to hack a wallet because of mnemonic problem.

It's on the user side I guess why that unusual activity happened to your friend.

And next time, try to use another reputable wallet and not the mentioned one by you as I didn't aware of it.
I have the same suspicions as well, it is easy to think that you are doing a good job and keeping your computer clean because you do not see anything wrong going on with your system, but if you really begin to try to find malware in your computer you will see that most computers today are infested with malware, and while some of that malware is not that dangerous there are other pieces of malware which are waiting to send out any important information they can collect out of you, and as such I think this is the main reason why the friend of OP lost his coins.

Another reason might be, OP's friend is a victim of phishing.

Likely ended up for let's say airdrop and asking to connect a wallet. But in the process, there's a prompt to enter the passphrase or mnemonics which should not be a step on connecting wallets as that should mostly do with the legit browser extension.

Anyways, OP didn't come back for another information that might help with the case.
legendary
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October 23, 2022, 07:31:36 PM
#61
Are you guys 100% sure that the device is clean and didn't help getting your friend hacked? Talking about experience, I have been using the same wallet since 2015 and has left 0.01 btc in there just for good measure. It was generated through electrum and I'm still using the same 12-word mnemonic that I have memorized over time, and up until now the balance is there. I generated it with an old, crappy HP laptop that was connected to the internet at that time, and so far I haven't encountered any security issues at all.

Better backtrack and check what other possible reasons may have caused this. Or it could be that someone gained access to his computer without him knowing.
hero member
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October 23, 2022, 07:13:07 PM
#60
Just want to share, I can't prove that mnemonic safe or not.  I'm not an expert for things like that.

It's safe there are millions of wallets users that rely on Mnemonic to open their wallet, if it's not safe then we have hundreds or even thousands of complaints and users will discard these wallets

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My friend just got hacked, lost about 300-400 USD.

He wonder how it happened, make some probably the device was infiltrated by malware, if yes. All his key is gone(all), so there's no only 1.
Malware and interaction with a project are just two of the reasons but doing nothing is just impossible.

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He was generated Mnemonic by coin98. Never connected to MetaMask or some things like login to connected, never.

Your friend needs to dig deeper he might interact with one project and not remember it or use an infected PC to open his wallet, I'm not a user of Coin98 but there's hardly a scam accusation on Coin98


legendary
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October 23, 2022, 04:42:47 PM
#59
Your friend doesn't tell you everything. It's technically difficult to hack a wallet because of mnemonic problem.

It's on the user side I guess why that unusual activity happened to your friend.

And next time, try to use another reputable wallet and not the mentioned one by you as I didn't aware of it.
I have the same suspicions as well, it is easy to think that you are doing a good job and keeping your computer clean because you do not see anything wrong going on with your system, but if you really begin to try to find malware in your computer you will see that most computers today are infested with malware, and while some of that malware is not that dangerous there are other pieces of malware which are waiting to send out any important information they can collect out of you, and as such I think this is the main reason why the friend of OP lost his coins.
hero member
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October 23, 2022, 09:34:15 AM
#58
Most of the account hack problem is because malware.  Hacker use different software for PC or Laptop to target especially crack files which need registry. For Mobile hacking they target cloud data. All users who Signup on their mobile using cloud storage 90% has been hacked.
Mnemonic Phrase is secure but it's need to be save in paper and should not be save in Gmail or any online storage area.
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October 23, 2022, 06:42:19 AM
#57
legendary
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October 23, 2022, 06:08:34 AM
#56
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The possibility of your friend getting hacked due to personal security issues is more likely than a standard process of mnemonic code generation and potential collision. So without knowing your friend's digital hygiene, it is hard to seek the actual reason for it getting hacked.
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OP said that malware is the primary suspect for the hack so by there, I think his friends so called "digital hygiene" are not that clean enough and maybe he likes to visit random websites and connect his wallet there. It's also possible that he downloaded the fake version of the wallet since this wallet isn't that popular as the other so the original version may not have that small blue check yet.

OP never stated malware is his primary concern, since if it is he thought that all the seed phrases should be exposed not some particular key. But it is also possible that OP lack of additional information or simply security knowledge regarding what any potential vulnerability flaw that his friend has. His saying about 1 particular key getting hacked may happen due to the condition of that particular address is the one who got the funds.

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October 23, 2022, 12:06:28 AM
#55
legendary
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October 22, 2022, 07:55:09 PM
#54
Your friend doesn't tell you everything. It's technically difficult to hack a wallet because of mnemonic problem.

It's on the user side I guess why that unusual activity happened to your friend.

And next time, try to use another reputable wallet and not the mentioned one by you as I didn't aware of it.
legendary
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October 22, 2022, 06:55:56 PM
#53
I'd ask him/her more questions if I were you.
Like where did he save the seed phrase? Was it on the computer? E-mail? Cloud? Or just written on a simple piece of paper which is the safest of all.
How about phishing? Is he honestly telling you everything? How about checking his browsing history?
There are a lot of ways now being done by scammers and hackers to gain access to your accounts.
I never had a problem even in Metamask or other wallet services like Trust Wallet even though it's not recommended to keep your funds there.

I assume this problem is user-side and not Mnemonic or insecure private key. Most likely his friend was negligent in the process of using it, like the computer was infected with a virus or connected to strange dapps and did not revoke the connection...there are many reasons for property theft.

I'm also using metamask and trustwallet on my phone, so to say I've been using that wallet for 5 years and never changed to a new address but I haven't had any unfortunate problems. Security is the most important thing when entering the market, everything will be useless if we do not know how to protect our assets from hackers.
sr. member
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October 22, 2022, 04:24:22 PM
#52
I never heard of Coin98 Wallet, and upon checking it out, it seems there is no source code available. Its availability is also only on Chrome.

Mnemonic code generation by a popular and trusted wallet is fine. The seed generation process is secure as it widely can be viewed by those who understand. Until this time, A popular wallet user is safe from any mnemonic code vulnerability that I'm aware of.

The possibility of your friend getting hacked due to personal security issues is more likely than a standard process of mnemonic code generation and potential collision. So without knowing your friend's digital hygiene, it is hard to seek the actual reason for it getting hacked.
Coins98 was once in binance and then later on I just saw they have their own wallet. They are not new though so I think it's kinda trusted. I even created one in my browser extension only for airdrop purposes but I never received my coin on that airdrop that I join but I know it wasn't the fault of coins98. Maybe I am just unlucky.

OP said that malware is the primary suspect for the hack so by there, I think his friends so called "digital hygiene" are not that clean enough and maybe he likes to visit random websites and connect his wallet there. It's also possible that he downloaded the fake version of the wallet since this wallet isn't that popular as the other so the original version may not have that small blue check yet.
sr. member
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October 22, 2022, 01:49:42 PM
#51
I think there was no fault with mnemonic/seed phrase/private key, it’s happened for malware in your friends computer most probably. Somehow his PC was compromised otherwise it will never happened. Mnemonic is of course if you can keep it in the safe place, i don’t keep store any wallet private key in the online.
hero member
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October 22, 2022, 11:28:53 AM
#50
What token or coin has the address taken??
Has your friend's wallet address previously interacted with Smart Contracts or 3rd party websites??
because as far as I use Mnemonic there are no problems with the altcoins that I have.
I've also lost assets of around 500 busd because I've interacted with smart contracts that are designed to drain the contents in your wallet when you interact with them.
yes, I saw some people who posted lost their tokens in the telegram group.
even the case experienced is the same as what you are experiencing.
we can see quite a lot of fraud tokens in our wallets. so if we suddenly get a token that we don't know about and it turns out to be quite expensive. never expect it to be an airdrop. it will drain the tokens we have in the wallet.
If we take the question at hand, then we can easily say that we are not going to get our mnemonic cracked or anything like that, it's impossible and the power that is required to crack that would be bigger than any server I know of, and if anyone could have done that then I would assume it would have been the famous big wallet of satoshi and not some 300-400 dollar account.

However, about the fact that it was cracked into and money was stolen, I agree that some token situation, or some other way it was designed to get the owner participate a bit was involved, that way they could socially hack your cooperation and then get it directly from you.
legendary
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October 22, 2022, 10:52:59 AM
#49
I have been hacked twice using mnemonic phrase through metamask. Can't be sure of the reasons both time. After the first hack, I was too cautious not to make any mistake. The only way of my mnemonic phrase being stolen is, I once loaded my wallet in a PC using a pirated/cracked windows os. I can't prove it but I had no other ways of getting it stolen. I was too cautious and had always used a legit OS and it was once event to load my wallet in different PC and just after a week of incident, my balance was stolen. So everyone should be sure that they are not using pirated softwares while dealing with wallets.
newbie
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October 22, 2022, 10:35:37 AM
#48
Hello community thank your for great discussion.

The address keep active with same activity.

I saw ENS domain

-  080995.eth
- sircryptoofblock.eth
- dmuz.eth

If  you're own the domain, might you want to share please.

Let this thread being an archive, in case I found the main problem or gap. will share here.


I found owner dmuz.eth

https://twitter.com/DMUZNFT/status/1583004596204863489

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October 22, 2022, 06:06:39 AM
#47
I think Mnemonic are safe because many wallet like metamask, Trustwallet we create a new wallet so we use mnemonic through we create so mnemonic are safe way but some time we save mnemonic in that file are email etc which are hack easily then hackers easily open over wallet so secure your system other than mnemonic phrase are safe.

Every security, of course there is a small case that is common, this is natural because it is impossible for all perfect wallets, but whatever the team has done is a big thing that makes everything easier and if a case like this happens massively, of course we can say it is not safe .
legendary
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October 22, 2022, 04:42:49 AM
#46
mnemonics should be very safe
I've experienced this, and I realized that if I was connected to a site that was infected with malware, I just didn't know which site, and for the safety of my wallet I left it and threw it away from my cellphone and computer.
legendary
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October 22, 2022, 03:52:31 AM
#45
I'd ask him/her more questions if I were you.
Like where did he save the seed phrase? Was it on the computer? E-mail? Cloud? Or just written on a simple piece of paper which is the safest of all.
How about phishing? Is he honestly telling you everything? How about checking his browsing history?
There are a lot of ways now being done by scammers and hackers to gain access to your accounts.
I never had a problem even in Metamask or other wallet services like Trust Wallet even though it's not recommended to keep your funds there.
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October 22, 2022, 02:27:28 AM
#44
What token or coin has the address taken??
Has your friend's wallet address previously interacted with Smart Contracts or 3rd party websites??
because as far as I use Mnemonic there are no problems with the altcoins that I have.
I've also lost assets of around 500 busd because I've interacted with smart contracts that are designed to drain the contents in your wallet when you interact with them.
yes, I saw some people who posted lost their tokens in the telegram group.
even the case experienced is the same as what you are experiencing.
we can see quite a lot of fraud tokens in our wallets. so if we suddenly get a token that we don't know about and it turns out to be quite expensive. never expect it to be an airdrop. it will drain the tokens we have in the wallet.
sr. member
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October 22, 2022, 02:13:51 AM
#43
What token or coin has the address taken??
Has your friend's wallet address previously interacted with Smart Contracts or 3rd party websites??
because as far as I use Mnemonic there are no problems with the altcoins that I have.
I've also lost assets of around 500 busd because I've interacted with smart contracts that are designed to drain the contents in your wallet when you interact with them.
hero member
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October 22, 2022, 12:17:24 AM
#42
Just want to share, I can't prove that mnemonic safe or not.  I'm not an expert for things like that.
that mnemonic is safe, depending on how you keep it save. I've experience hold my token about 3 years by keep only mnemonic seed on my flash disk. maybe in this case your wallet have malware or any virus who can access it. so don't keep mnemonic online again and use open source wallet.
legendary
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October 21, 2022, 07:12:51 PM
#41
Mnemonics are completely safe. It can't be hacked or something that easily unless of user's fault. Maybe OP's friend is not just aware that something happened that leads to unauthorized access to its wallet. They should start looking at the main cause of the problem on the device used as it might be potentially harmed by some malware. OP's friend might also be a victim of phishing.

That case can't just be assumed right away that it's because mnemonic is not safe.
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October 21, 2022, 06:22:01 PM
#40
I suggest that you use a new metamask account or dapps app in a new browser, because any connection wallets in third party apps will be very vulnerable to wallet hacking, so we have to disconnect every dapps after we use them, so any potential tokens that have landed in the wallet are recommended to send it to another address for the wallet holder, if we follow the advice above then we can anticipate losing assets in the wallet.
Disconnect only still not enough secure wallet connecting with several dapp exchange exactly with new dapp browser, need to revoke all connection if want secure wallet assets or metamask account. Used new metamask wallet is good option but need to refill fees every time make transaction. Better with disconnect and revoke all connecting after use dapp exchange with metamask connecting. I used beefy.finance for revoke all connecting with dapp exchange, as soon possible after transaction or swap make revoke connecting without have space or time delay could be chance for wallet hack.

In this case, I think OP's friend didn't revoke the previous permissions he granted to an untrusted DEX or dapps. When we connect to dapp or DEX it will always ask us to accept permission and many people didn't notice but clicked full permission button this means they have full access to our wallet. This is a common error and not many people know, after finishing the transaction, we always have to disconnect and revoke all the permissions that we have previously granted.
hero member
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October 21, 2022, 05:59:03 PM
#39
I think Mnemonic are safe because many wallet like metamask, Trustwallet we create a new wallet so we use mnemonic through we create so mnemonic are safe way but some time we save mnemonic in that file are email etc which are hack easily then hackers easily open over wallet so secure your system other than mnemonic phrase are safe.
It’s safe not until you expose those data into hackers or your pc might got the virus which collects personal data. I’ve been dealing with this wallet for years already and so far, I have no problem with some of my token. I support the other claims here that OP your friend might already exposed to hackers and probably downloaded a file from unknown source or it can also be an inside job. I have my crypto friends as well but I’m not letting them to touch my PC without my permission, this is to be more safe.

As hacking softwares or tools are getting sophisticated, your computer will not be safe from hacking or phishing anymore.
These days, we are mostly online and we don't know if we visited the site as potential source of malware or virus.
As much as possible, separate the computer that you are having your funds with, and if possible, not connect it the net all the time.
You can't trace where they will look for vulnerabilities. So what you can do is you need to take care of your own online credentials.
As well as limit your exposure to potential attacks. These hackers don't care who they are dealing with, so long they are exhausting funds.
sr. member
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October 21, 2022, 05:29:10 PM
#38
I think Mnemonic are safe because many wallet like metamask, Trustwallet we create a new wallet so we use mnemonic through we create so mnemonic are safe way but some time we save mnemonic in that file are email etc which are hack easily then hackers easily open over wallet so secure your system other than mnemonic phrase are safe.
It’s safe not until you expose those data into hackers or your pc might got the virus which collects personal data. I’ve been dealing with this wallet for years already and so far, I have no problem with some of my token. I support the other claims here that OP your friend might already exposed to hackers and probably downloaded a file from unknown source or it can also be an inside job. I have my crypto friends as well but I’m not letting them to touch my PC without my permission, this is to be more safe.
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October 21, 2022, 02:45:06 PM
#37
This is why it is advisable to use a different wallet for Airdrops if you are the type that participates in airdrops however, I too don't think Mnemonic is that easy to break if you did not place them carelessly. Safeguarding your login information can not be overemphasized and connecting your wallet to every site is not advisable too, I would normally write down all my Info in different Dairies and have soft copies of them too, and these devices I never connect to the internet.

Very true, till now many crypto users don't know the great danger of using the main wallet which holds huge amounts of funds to participate in airdrops, especially those that will require the user to connect to the website.  It is through this process and other ways that a hacker can have access to one's wallet. It is very important to take note of this and other possible ways like always disconnecting your wallet completely from any site you connect it to, ever since I read about wallet disconnection, I try to make it a point of duty to do so.
Mnemonic is very safe the way it was used is the problem.
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October 21, 2022, 01:04:32 PM
#36
I suggest that you use a new metamask account or dapps app in a new browser, because any connection wallets in third party apps will be very vulnerable to wallet hacking, so we have to disconnect every dapps after we use them, so any potential tokens that have landed in the wallet are recommended to send it to another address for the wallet holder, if we follow the advice above then we can anticipate losing assets in the wallet.
Disconnect only still not enough secure wallet connecting with several dapp exchange exactly with new dapp browser, need to revoke all connection if want secure wallet assets or metamask account. Used new metamask wallet is good option but need to refill fees every time make transaction. Better with disconnect and revoke all connecting after use dapp exchange with metamask connecting. I used beefy.finance for revoke all connecting with dapp exchange, as soon possible after transaction or swap make revoke connecting without have space or time delay could be chance for wallet hack.
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October 21, 2022, 12:43:09 PM
#35
Mnemonic phrase is hackable is hackable, Though there are several types of way to hack that like phishing, hacker having access to your computer and many more way to hack that secret phrase of yours but I will personally use and recommend it since I haven't experienced being hacked yet. I think it is safer compared on using custodial wallets that is much more prone to hacking or being removed to access to your own funds. Everything is hackable, It will depends on how you will keep and manage the security of your own assets.
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October 21, 2022, 12:21:45 PM
#34
Your friend must be careful in using it. instead when we login in metamask or the dappps application, if he is an airdrop player or the like, try to pay attention to the incoming token, there is a possibility that it is a dusting token. This is what makes your friends' wallets likely to be broken by hackers, they are very clever, even a small gap can be an opportunity for them.
I suggest that you use a new metamask account or dapps app in a new browser, because any connection wallets in third party apps will be very vulnerable to wallet hacking, so we have to disconnect every dapps after we use them, so any potential tokens that have landed in the wallet are recommended to send it to another address for the wallet holder, if we follow the advice above then we can anticipate losing assets in the wallet.
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October 21, 2022, 12:08:48 PM
#33

There might be some part of the story that we didn't know since OP just conclude right away that it's because of mnemonics being not safe. OP should look at all sides of the case starting from the hardware/devices that were used or might be his friend did some unintentional action that is not aware of.

Technically, mnemonics are safe and can't be breached that just easy. Although I'm not really aware of this Coin98 wallet and I'm confused about how on earth your friend ended up with a wallet that I can't even consider as popular or reputable.

I experienced it, it is a multi-chain wallet like trustwallet and has all versions for browser and phone. My experience is that it is quite slow and quite difficult to use if you are newbie, but in terms of security, I have no problem with it as I have used it to store some assets worth more than $1k. I think it's not the wallet provider's fault but maybe the OP's own fault, maybe he connected to a phishing site or his computer has a virus...In this case, he can try contacting coin98 support directly to get it resolved instead of asking here.
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October 21, 2022, 09:29:48 AM
#32
Mnemonic are safe but your computer is not so most probably your friend pc got compromised and that’s why he get hacked. Hackers can’t get your money unless you publicly post the details of your wallet or you downloaded a malware that can get your informations easily. That’s too back to get hacked, and a costly lesson to be learned. Well, better to secure your wallet and make it your outmost priority.
I'd see this stance happens mostly to those who lose their private keys or Mnemonic. It is very understandable that once our PC has been attacked by malware, it was easy for the hackers to control on it. Things that we need to keep in mind - there is no safety assurance storing our password/keys in the computer as it was advisable to right it dows in a paper for more safety. Definitely, there is no problem with the Mnemonic, in fact, many people are using this. The problem is that the one who manage to keep those stuff. Usually we neglect to do it.
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October 21, 2022, 09:23:55 AM
#31
The wallet was hacked, but I don't think it has anything to do with his mnemonic phrase, except someone else had access to it. Otherwise, I believe this hacking may be attributed to interaction with a malicious smart contract.
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October 21, 2022, 09:03:59 AM
#30
Mnemonic phrase has always been saved, it's the way you handle your wallets that determines the security and safety. Some persons store their recovery phrase on emails, google drive, notepad and other online security storages. This should be discontinued and never to be tolerated for any reason. I understand some persons have been caught unaware in this era of web3 and Defi movement due to phishing links compromising their wallets, therefore it's important to practice proper wallet management and deploy hardware wallet for bigger fund.
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October 21, 2022, 06:51:13 AM
#29
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October 20, 2022, 07:33:16 PM
#28
I agree, maybe this is just part of the story, maybe someone the OP's friend has access to his PC and then later found out his mnemonic phrase. So not necessarily a hacked or his PC has malware, it's more of an inside job.

And this is the main reason why you don't do that, saving your mnemonic phrase in a text base or something that is very clear to read and understand by others. Keep it away that only you have access to it.
Either an inside job or a hacking incidents and with this, we can still say that Mnemonic is still a safe option for your wallet all you have to do is to secure it at the best possible way. I wonder if your friend let someone use his computer without him around? This is also why I don't let anyone to access my computer because I value privacy and this is where I secure my wallet details aside from having my own black book. The other option is really to write it down in a secure notebook and have code on that which you are the only one who understand that code.
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October 20, 2022, 07:11:07 PM
#27
This is very first time I'm experiencing with the name of Coin98 wallet! Maybe its an extinction of crome browser, i notice it also available as Coin98 Super apk for mobile device. I don't know how safe this is for generating Mnemonic seed. I suggest to open another Mnemonic seed by using Trust wallet or metamask and transfer funds from others wallets which are created by using Coin98! Cause it also possible those wallets are already compromised and hacker will transfers fund later and recheck your device and make sure that is safe

I'm also not aware of Coin98 mobile wallet.


There might be some part of the story that we didn't know since OP just conclude right away that it's because of mnemonics being not safe. OP should look at all sides of the case starting from the hardware/devices that were used or might be his friend did some unintentional action that is not aware of.

Technically, mnemonics are safe and can't be breached that just easy. Although I'm not really aware of this Coin98 wallet and I'm confused about how on earth your friend ended up with a wallet that I can't even consider as popular or reputable.

I agree, maybe this is just part of the story, maybe someone the OP's friend has access to his PC and then later found out his mnemonic phrase. So not necessarily a hacked or his PC has malware, it's more of an inside job.

And this is the main reason why you don't do that, saving your mnemonic phrase in a text base or something that is very clear to read and understand by others. Keep it away that only you have access to it.
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October 20, 2022, 07:02:30 PM
#26
@OP Mnemonic phrase does not prevent a user from being hacked, keeping the mnemonic phrase safe from Hackers is what does prevent a user from hacks.
You already know and stated how and why your friend got hacked, you said he's device was infiltrated by malware, this is more than enough reason to get hacked and lose alot of money, and I thank God for your friend because in his case, he didn't loose much, $300 to $400 I understand is quite a lot for some people, but think of it, people loose millions of dollars in this same simple process.

So to assure you, I tell you that mnemonic are very safe, but also very importantly requires to be kept safe to avoid being hacked.
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October 20, 2022, 06:40:06 PM
#25

There might be some part of the story that we didn't know since OP just conclude right away that it's because of mnemonics being not safe. OP should look at all sides of the case starting from the hardware/devices that were used or might be his friend did some unintentional action that is not aware of.

Technically, mnemonics are safe and can't be breached that just easy. Although I'm not really aware of this Coin98 wallet and I'm confused about how on earth your friend ended up with a wallet that I can't even consider as popular or reputable.
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October 20, 2022, 06:31:40 PM
#24
This is very first time I'm experiencing with the name of Coin98 wallet! Maybe its an extinction of crome browser, i notice it also available as Coin98 Super apk for mobile device. I don't know how safe this is for generating Mnemonic seed. I suggest to open another Mnemonic seed by using Trust wallet or metamask and transfer funds from others wallets which are created by using Coin98! Cause it also possible those wallets are already compromised and hacker will transfers fund later and recheck your device and make sure that is safe
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October 20, 2022, 06:10:38 PM
#23
I haven't experienced any Mnemonic leak in my device.  I believe all the phrases created within our unit is safe until it is breached by malware.  The leak of this secret phases maybe caused by a malware or virus that snippet wallet and it is possible that @OP friend is infected by cryware[1].  It is said that this malware is designed to collect and exfiltrate data from hot wallets, or non-custodial cryptocurrency wallets, that are stored on common user devices and help complete crypto transactions. [1]  The link below gives more detail about this kind of malware.  It also gives pointers on how to keep our gadgets and devices safe from malware. 
(copy pasted it here to anyone who doesn't want to click the link)
Malware or viruses is never been new on digital world.There's always those hackers who would really be keep on making malwares and other related stuff considering that crypto space is something a

honeypot for them to get tons of money with those crawling malwares which we know that majority of us really make use of pc and mobiles which is really that easy to penetrate if you arent that

aware on how these things works or make yourself that safe with it.Its typical but people would only learn up on strengthen up their security once they had
experience some losses.
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October 20, 2022, 05:52:58 PM
#22
I haven't experienced any Mnemonic leak in my device.  I believe all the phrases created within our unit is safe until it is breached by malware.  The leak of this secret phases maybe caused by a malware or virus that snippet wallet and it is possible that @OP friend is infected by cryware[1].  It is said that this malware is designed to collect and exfiltrate data from hot wallets, or non-custodial cryptocurrency wallets, that are stored on common user devices and help complete crypto transactions. [1]  The link below gives more detail about this kind of malware.  It also gives pointers on how to keep our gadgets and devices safe from malware. 
(copy pasted it here to anyone who doesn't want to click the link)

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Microsoft has been on the front lines to help protect users against crypto wallet malware. The company has provided a number of tips for protecting users’ hot wallets.

Keep hot wallets locked when the user is not actively trading, and disconnect sites that are connected to the hot wallet.
Do not store private key information in plain text format (which can be easily stolen), and use care when copying and pasting password information.
Terminate a browser session every time a transaction is completed.
Be on the lookout for suspicious links to wallet websites and apps, and double-check crypto wallet transactions and approvals.
Don’t share private key information or seed phrases, and seek out wallets that use multifactor authentication.
Use hardware wallets that store private keys offline.
Double check the full file extensions of files that you download.






[1] https://www.simplilearn.com/malware-and-crypto-wallets-how-hackers-are-exploiting-article#:~:text=A%20new%20threat%20has%20recently,and%20help%20complete%20crypto%20transactions.
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October 20, 2022, 05:31:31 PM
#21
When we do talk about mnemonic phrases then based up on experience and hopefully i wont really be able to experience loss of funds.
After a long years of using up my MyEtherwallet (MEW) and Electrum which is really that based on having those phrases
which my assets are still intact or havent lost because i had stored up offline those keys and not into my pc or cloud storage or something like that.

Safety of your assets would be definitely be depending on you.You might believe that you hadnt missed out something
but its impossible that a certain wallet could be bruteforce without knowing those words.
Those are been exposed.
We must save files on external devices to prevent damage to the operating system or to prevent files from being infected with viruses. In other cases, many Newbies do not realize that they have filled in the PK in the airdrop or bounty registration form so that they lose the assets that have been accumulated in their wallet. So there are many factors that mnemonics can be hacked even our own mistakes in copying so as to publish wallet access to others, so anything related to wallet files must be ensured to be stored securely and must be careful to distinguish Public wallet and Private Key.
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October 20, 2022, 05:12:06 PM
#20
When we do talk about mnemonic phrases then based up on experience and hopefully i wont really be able to experience loss of funds.
After a long years of using up my MyEtherwallet (MEW) and Electrum which is really that based on having those phrases
which my assets are still intact or havent lost because i had stored up offline those keys and not into my pc or cloud storage or something like that.

Safety of your assets would be definitely be depending on you.You might believe that you hadnt missed out something
but its impossible that a certain wallet could be bruteforce without knowing those words.
Those are been exposed.
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October 20, 2022, 04:44:48 PM
#19
My best advise is for your friend not to used that machine or PC, it could have been ridden by malware already that is monitoring his wallet, a keylogger malware.

If he can format it better to that, just to make sure that the malware is deleted but he has to scan everything to make sure that it is clean.

I'm sorry for your friends lost, although it is not huge money, but I know it's hard earn and hopefully he will still invest and make profits down the line to recover that $500.
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October 20, 2022, 04:30:09 PM
#18
The seed phrase is still pretty much safe AFAIK.
Maybe your friend made and error unknowingly to him or maybe his device was infected by malware.
And again your should have chosen a popular and more safe wallet rather than going for an unknown wallet IMO.
This seems like the most likely option, people are not really as careful as they believe when they are surfing the web and it is possible the friend of the OP installed an application which is monitoring his actions and extracted enough information for that money to be stolen, so the best thing that can be done now is to not use that computer anymore, backup your seed words and then make a fresh install and once that is done then generate new addresses with another set of seed words and move whatever coins are left there.
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October 20, 2022, 01:19:19 PM
#17
Coin98 is actually a non custodian wallet, although never used it so I have depressed idea of how it work. But from my experiences I think to hack cases can happen without any loopholes created by the hackers victims (in this case your friend was the victim).

I don't know the popularity of coin98 and this just makes me wonder about its own safety too. I have used electrum for a while now and since I kept my mnemonic key/ seed phrase safe I really haven't had any issues I believe the security behind it is impenetrable except their are so vulnerable actions on my path.
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October 20, 2022, 01:15:15 PM
#16
This is as much Safe as I was not able to access my own ledger when I lost it and also had the memonic phrases written perfectly on paper yet I was not able to access my coins. Somehow I found Back my ledger and then was able to access it, obviously the first thing I did was to reset and took entire back up of it.

Now if being owner of that I went through all that trouble, just imagine how hard it could be for someone third party to hack into someone’s non custodial wallet and gain access. Seems impossible. It’s safe for me.
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October 20, 2022, 12:49:48 PM
#15
@OP, about the addresses, there could really be the same addresses that are being supported in differet networks or chains just as what you've posted.

And about your friend being hacked, let's say that there's something to do with the wallet especially if it's unknown and the developers of it are saving those keys and gains access to their users.

But a reputable one doesn't have that control to all of their users. I'm guessing that this is another fault of the user for which your friend has been a victim of phishing or has downloaded a malware.
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October 20, 2022, 07:41:32 AM
#14
as far as i use wallet mnemonic though no hacking happened. but the vigilance and care of the wallet must really be considered. What I do is often change the wallet if the wallet is used for airdrop transactions because it is so easy for hackers to get our wallet data by sending dusting tokens. but without the information experienced by a friend, I think it is an unnatural thing. did he make a mistake he wasn't aware of?
This is why it is advisable to use a different wallet for Airdrops if you are the type that participates in airdrops however, I too don't think Mnemonic is that easy to break if you did not place them carelessly. Safeguarding your login information can not be overemphasized and connecting your wallet to every site is not advisable too, I would normally write down all my Info in different Dairies and have soft copies of them too, and these devices I never connect to the internet.
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October 20, 2022, 07:15:38 AM
#13
I have heard about this Revoke.Cash but I don't know how safe the website is, have you used this yourself? Is it safe for any wallet users to connect to? Seed phrases are safer offline, maybe his friend copied the Seed phrase online, in mail or in PDF, I've seen people keeping their seed phrases in the most stupid places.

Revoke.cash is very safe to use, you don't have to worry about anything happening to your wallet, instead by using Revoke.cash, you know where your wallet is connected. About Phrases, it will indeed be safer if it is stored online. I personally made a copy of it on a piece of paper and kept it in the closet, so I don't have to worry about hacking phrases. It makes sense that the OP's friend's wallet would be hacked if the OP's friend saved it online and maybe the file was accessed by hackers.
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October 20, 2022, 06:04:06 AM
#12
Mnemonic seed or private key itself is not harmful but you must use a clean device when you use a wallet to generate wallet seed or private key or when you import it.

Because if your device is infected, what you are typing will be caught and hackers can see your wallet seed or private key. Therefore they will be able to access your wallet and when they have access, they will still your coins and tokens.

It is why people recommend to generate wallet offline and use an airgapped device to store your wallet and coin.

Don't have bad web surfing activities and use antivirus, Internet security softwares. Prevention is better than cure and it is a best practice to avoid wallet hack.
Good topics on security and privacy
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October 20, 2022, 05:39:18 AM
#11
Mnemonic and private keys - perhaps they are safe as long as you know how to keep safe of these things. But if you just keep this on your computer, and save it online, I could imagine that it was easy to trace and lead to the cracking of your account. Well, I was not sure how you keep that and in your friend but most scenarios that lead to this are because we are practicing the wrong way of keeping them until we realized that our wallet has been accessed by an unauthorized person.
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October 20, 2022, 04:17:39 AM
#10
For me it's safe, the thing is that how to back it up?

And maybe that's how hackers were able to get everything from your friend, did he write down his mnemonic phrase?

So it's really up to the individual safe practice, just don't safe it in the same machine, write it down just like old fashion, never put it online like in a cloud or something.
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October 20, 2022, 04:01:35 AM
#9
As far as I use Non-Custodial Wallet, I think Mnemonic Phrase is very safe, I've never experienced any hacking either. BTW I use Trust Wallet. Coin98 has high credibility, they are on par with other Non-Custodial Wallets such as Trust Wallet, imToken and others. So I don't think the problem is coming from there.

I don't know for sure why your friend's wallet got hacked, but I think it has something to do with interacting with a fraudulent smart contract. Your friend may admit that she's never done that, but who knows?

For this problem I only have a suggestion not to use the wallet anymore, or to make sure that your friend's wallet is not connected to a project, you can check it at https://revoke.cash/, hope it helps.
I have heard about this Revoke.Cash but I don't know how safe the website is, have you used this yourself? Is it safe for any wallet users to connect to? Seed phrases are safer offline, maybe his friend copied the Seed phrase online, in mail or in PDF, I've seen people keeping their seed phrases in the most stupid places.

It's safe, I haven't used through this site but I'm still using a similar one. https://app.unrekt.net/
It helps us to completely disconnect as well as cancel any fiduciary rights to the websites we have ever connected to the wallet. I think this is also the cause that his friend had, leading to the above hack.

I am also using C98 wallet and I have never had any problem from it, C98 is a wallet as well as a non-custodial wallet developed by coin98 team from Vietnam. OP you can contact the c98 team directly to clarify the problem they are very enthusiastic about customer support, maybe you will find the reason you are looking for.
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October 20, 2022, 03:58:09 AM
#8
Just want to share, I can't prove that mnemonic safe or not.  I'm not an expert for things like that.
My friend just got hacked, lost about 300-400 USD.
He wonder how it happened, make some probably the device was infiltrated by malware, if yes. All his key is gone(all), so there's no only 1.
He was generated Mnemonic by coin98. Never connected to MetaMask or some things like login to connected, never.

Usually i think that Mnemoic phrases are very safe. I don't really know the numbers but as far as i know it is almost impossible to brute force the because there are millions of possible solutions obviously. So i would guess the reason why your friend was hacked was not the mnemonic phrase but the way he created it or how he saved or stored it. Usually you are connected to the internet when you are creating your mnemonic phrase no matter if you are creating it for metamask or for a desktop wallet. So if your PC is already infected with a malware or something when you are doing that they can already get the phrase there.
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October 20, 2022, 03:18:10 AM
#7
Its not that Mnemonic is no longer safe. Everything is as safe as the weakest link. If his device was compromised or someone had access to it without his knowledge than even 100% buletproof solution will not work. My guess is that mnemonic did not fail. your friend failed to protect it.
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October 20, 2022, 03:04:09 AM
#6
As far as I use Non-Custodial Wallet, I think Mnemonic Phrase is very safe, I've never experienced any hacking either. BTW I use Trust Wallet. Coin98 has high credibility, they are on par with other Non-Custodial Wallets such as Trust Wallet, imToken and others. So I don't think the problem is coming from there.

I don't know for sure why your friend's wallet got hacked, but I think it has something to do with interacting with a fraudulent smart contract. Your friend may admit that she's never done that, but who knows?

For this problem I only have a suggestion not to use the wallet anymore, or to make sure that your friend's wallet is not connected to a project, you can check it at https://revoke.cash/, hope it helps.
I have heard about this Revoke.Cash but I don't know how safe the website is, have you used this yourself? Is it safe for any wallet users to connect to? Seed phrases are safer offline, maybe his friend copied the Seed phrase online, in mail or in PDF, I've seen people keeping their seed phrases in the most stupid places.
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October 20, 2022, 01:26:13 AM
#5
The seed phrase is still pretty much safe AFAIK.
Maybe your friend made and error unknowingly to him or maybe his device was infected by malware.
And again your should have chosen a popular and more safe wallet rather than going for an unknown wallet IMO.
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October 20, 2022, 12:20:04 AM
#4
I never heard of Coin98 Wallet, and upon checking it out, it seems there is no source code available. Its availability is also only on Chrome.

Mnemonic code generation by a popular and trusted wallet is fine. The seed generation process is secure as it widely can be viewed by those who understand. Until this time, A popular wallet user is safe from any mnemonic code vulnerability that I'm aware of.

The possibility of your friend getting hacked due to personal security issues is more likely than a standard process of mnemonic code generation and potential collision. So without knowing your friend's digital hygiene, it is hard to seek the actual reason for it getting hacked.
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October 20, 2022, 12:18:48 AM
#3
-  In my current experience, I don't see any problem with this. Why did @OP have such a bad experience with this? Because for me it's safe as

long as you keep your mnemonic in the right and safe place. Just make sure that when you use it, don't ever forget to log out of the platform

wallet you'll be using so that hackers can't access you.
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October 19, 2022, 11:29:57 PM
#2
As far as I use Non-Custodial Wallet, I think Mnemonic Phrase is very safe, I've never experienced any hacking either. BTW I use Trust Wallet. Coin98 has high credibility, they are on par with other Non-Custodial Wallets such as Trust Wallet, imToken and others. So I don't think the problem is coming from there.

I don't know for sure why your friend's wallet got hacked, but I think it has something to do with interacting with a fraudulent smart contract. Your friend may admit that she's never done that, but who knows?

For this problem I only have a suggestion not to use the wallet anymore, or to make sure that your friend's wallet is not connected to a project, you can check it at https://revoke.cash/, hope it helps.
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October 19, 2022, 11:03:33 PM
#1
Just want to share, I can't prove that mnemonic safe or not.  I'm not an expert for things like that.

My friend just got hacked, lost about 300-400 USD.

He wonder how it happened, make some probably the device was infiltrated by malware, if yes. All his key is gone(all), so there's no only 1.

He was generated Mnemonic by coin98. Never connected to MetaMask or some things like login to connected, never.

Address land to "0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82"

0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82 has lot network. There's 5 I found. https://blockscan.com/address/0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82

ETH  https://etherscan.io/address/0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82
BSC  https://bscscan.com/address/0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82
Poly https://polygonscan.com/address/0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82
OP https://optimistic.etherscan.io/address/0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82
ARBI https://arbiscan.io/address/0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82

Take a sample :
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0xef4e4413bb3535c78bce921f9d05814961c3a9b14aa3ace872ac51de20e80644 2 hrs 37 mins ago 0x154eff17af3ae2fe2064fe70fb997d807cf1c011 IN 0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82 41.99255724 Olympus (OHM)
0xf0b29887ad526399f291462a4b3eef4283001037a3547f5c030b59ccb52fd00a 2 hrs 38 mins ago 0x154eff17af3ae2fe2064fe70fb997d807cf1c011 IN 0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82 92,976,341,396.66919415 The People’s... (PEEPS)
0xa752e2a30cfdc25107013f9ea2338f2b0eb55ac423762c8a614a08fe6c9d8188 2 hrs 44 mins ago 0x154eff17af3ae2fe2064fe70fb997d807cf1c011 IN 0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82 3,810,550,290,956.5476974 Bezoge Earth (BEZOGE)
0x7039964c4e99532c75aada210d1d81d7231bc49d7fe268fff4a69d3711e1fdb2 2 hrs 44 mins ago 0x154eff17af3ae2fe2064fe70fb997d807cf1c011 IN 0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82 41,267.59937671 MintySwap (MINTYS)
0x08aed967fba449b94e5ff4536fba07d25f8ae1a67ff956781dd1e1aedea81bdc 2 hrs 45 mins ago 0x154eff17af3ae2fe2064fe70fb997d807cf1c011 IN 0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82 49,999.99999716 Falcon 9 (F9)
0xa2223addbef9999d87140a013e751b443bbdde4d459ed6b345b6d925e92aa81e 2 hrs 45 mins ago 0x154eff17af3ae2fe2064fe70fb997d807cf1c011 IN 0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82 80,462.26 ACCEL (ACCEL)
0xd012dc1d82c7f8cb602a0e1b9d4b0295691431b4aac90c6e5ef0e497e2432769 2 hrs 57 mins ago 0x8090b15679d7b67625f5655883a7e42fad1adffa IN 0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82 0.22792 Wrapped Ethe... (WETH)
0xd33bb3f40d8ad5158c5798ea0cf5ea680779a18ee3bf7b7e4f11018ffdb948a0 3 hrs 2 mins ago 0xe9c14ea0d6e9aaa7c58774b05cc6f455cc506bda IN 0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82 246.6231 Ultra Token (UOS)
0x56909ca1b3b820959a45daa3792c7002d7786be28821b0f3c32e006761ce4de4 3 hrs 5 mins ago 0x92a3d57a912488665946646c123b0c5d3722ea8c IN 0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82 501.793375 Litentry (LIT)
0xfbd778310d2b08c183a564de912355cf6c923b27e2fa4bd5cbc17be0ae101fc7 3 hrs 6 mins ago 0x92a3d57a912488665946646c123b0c5d3722ea8c IN 0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82 413.79544305 StaFi (FIS)
0x75f905d63f8725364e6feb94d2502e0f98b0890e4fa816a8db3dc838d7d92f08 3 hrs 9 mins ago 0x33a54fd3dbe912d7725962d216970ec1189321c0 IN 0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82 15,136.99488655 LooksRare To... (LOOKS)
0x5f4ec7cd2719489b1153f84c72ffca0d4e152945d4848c8f0a2eabc61f8c257b 3 hrs 10 mins ago 0x33a54fd3dbe912d7725962d216970ec1189321c0 IN 0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82 7.92 Staked Aave (stkAAV...)
0x1b76784ae516a45d3cd0d73b81e5235b9c32aedc7f84f8290700887050e8810a 3 hrs 12 mins ago 0x33a54fd3dbe912d7725962d216970ec1189321c0 IN 0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82 0.22316481 Wrapped Ethe... (WETH)
All those sender is sending all assets to 0x89e7d7b622fe0dcc53c42cee12a9ebdc9fa29c82

I been research possibility:
I mean theres tons of addresses out there so its like how could you not hit one
Because there are this many possible valid 12 word seeds:
340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456

Like I said I'm not an expert, just want to share. make this thread as archive in case there solved or new case found.
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