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Quote from: philipma1957 on October 07, 2015, 04:05:52 PM

Quote from: Jake-R on October 07, 2015, 11:19:01 AM

I went with the Ant Miner S3+. So far I am learning a lot and happy with it. I wish it was a little quieter, but that's not a big deal. The price was right too.

okay here is a safe easy mod add the silverstone 141 fan to the side that does not have the externet jack.

look at this screen shot I will post it in 1 min

see the silverstone spins at 1000 vs 2000
if you set at freq 200 and never change it is possible
it will be quiet .
as to your question can you switch from 100 to 225 yeah but don't
go under freq 150 . it will be good enoguh and with the silverstone 141 at amazon it will be quiet

http://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-Cooler-Computer-Cooling-FHP-141/dp/B00A460TK6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444248293&sr=8-1&keywords=silverstone+141
16.99 amazon prime

look at my fan speeds below

I will check that fan out. I have found that any fan speed below 1900 RPM is quiet enough for me. What version of the firmware are you using? My screen looks different, your fan information is below the frequency information, while mine is in-line with it:

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Quote from: Jake-R on October 07, 2015, 11:19:01 AM

I went with the Ant Miner S3+. So far I am learning a lot and happy with it. I wish it was a little quieter, but that's not a big deal. The price was right too.

okay here is a safe easy mod add the silverstone 141 fan to the side that does not have the externet jack.

look at this screen shot I will post it in 1 min

see the silverstone spins at 1000 vs 2000
if you set at freq 200 and never change it is possible
it will be quiet .
as to your question can you switch from 100 to 225 yeah but don't
go under freq 150 . it will be good enoguh and with the silverstone 141 at amazon it will be quiet

http://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-Cooler-Computer-Cooling-FHP-141/dp/B00A460TK6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1444248293&sr=8-1&keywords=silverstone+141
16.99 amazon prime

look at my fan speeds below

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Quote from: Jake-R on October 07, 2015, 11:19:01 AM

I went with the Ant Miner S3+. So far I am learning a lot and happy with it. I wish it was a little quieter, but that's not a big deal. The price was right too.

You went with the better unit. The S3 was a tank and a awsome miner. The dragon was great but it runs hotter and is less efficient.

I only suggest a Dragon if you somehow have a data center at just a few cents and can get and ROI the dragons for cheap. But for 95 percent of people (made up number) a S3 is better for you then a Dragon 1T. Now it get's closer if you look at 1.5T dragons. But still most will be better off with S3.

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I went with the Ant Miner S3+. So far I am learning a lot and happy with it. I wish it was a little quieter, but that's not a big deal. The price was right too.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on October 07, 2015, 02:31:55 AM

I suggest the Lketc Mintforger Dragon 1 Th/s (1000 Gh/s) Sha-256 Asic 28nm Bitcoin Miner

Why would you suggest a very outdated but still quite expensive Miner, that only has 1J/GH Efficiency? This is Antminer S1 territory...

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This is OP's post and the thing that he needs

(EDIT: I am changing my requirements to be anything that is quiet enough to be used in a living space. 1 TH/s 1000 watts is acceptable. Standalone preferred. RPI / PC conection acceptable.)

I am just suggesting something that he can used, he doesn't said his budget so I supposed he can afford that.
but again if not two or three antminer will be great, and I'm using antminers too. Grin

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on October 07, 2015, 02:31:55 AM

I suggest the Lketc Mintforger Dragon 1 Th/s (1000 Gh/s) Sha-256 Asic 28nm Bitcoin Miner

Why would you suggest a very outdated but still quite expensive Miner, that only has 1J/GH Efficiency? This is Antminer S1 territory...

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I suggest the Lketc Mintforger Dragon 1 Th/s (1000 Gh/s) Sha-256 Asic 28nm Bitcoin Miner
it has highest efficiency, compact form factor and built-in power supply!
Embedded CGMiner with complete stand-alone operation. After configuring it,
the machine mines alone without a PC connection required. but it is very expensive
$2,649.00 and it is available in amazon!

the antminer S7 has 2 batch available I prefer batch 1 for speed purpose

goodluck in finding what's best for you. Grin

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Quote from: Jake-R on October 06, 2015, 04:50:54 PM

I want to drop the frequency down to 100M during the evening when I am in the room, then put it back to 225M (the default frequency). Basically, underclock when I am in the room and put to the normal speed when I go to bed/work.

Is there any danger of damaging the memory/storage with frequent writes to it? I don't imagine there is a hard drive inside the unit, so it must be writing the setting to some other form of non-volatile storage (with potentially limited writes).

Someone please correct me if wrong. But as long as you are just changing frequency I don't see see a huge problem with writing the freq on it. It is not like a firmware flash that could brick (assuming done right).

I still don't know of one that does it on a schedule. You might find main thread in hardware for the miner and ask in it. Hardware threads tend to get more views then speculations.

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I want to drop the frequency down to 100M during the evening when I am in the room, then put it back to 225M (the default frequency). Basically, underclock when I am in the room and put to the normal speed when I go to bed/work.

Is there any danger of damaging the memory/storage with frequent writes to it? I don't imagine there is a hard drive inside the unit, so it must be writing the setting to some other form of non-volatile storage (with potentially limited writes).

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Quote from: Jake-R on October 06, 2015, 04:18:36 PM

The miner is quieter than I thought it would be, but it is still somewhat loud when the fans kick up. Is there any danger in switching the frequency to 100M during the day and kicking it up at night when the room is vacant, to the normal level? Does changing this setting daily pose any long term risks to the unit? Is there any way to automate the frequency changing to fit a schedule?

The question would depend on how uch you are "kicking it up". If you mean kicking it up as normal freq then no not a issue. If you are over clocking it depends on how high(bitmain does not allow you to do any OC without voiding warranty if that give you a idea). But yes on bitmain many do run the miners OC.

Closest thing I can think of is M's antmonitor - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ms-miner-antsp-monitor-v52-alertsautomassscheduled-rebootmobile-miner-596178 . But it does not do freq adjusts to my knowledge.

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The miner is quieter than I thought it would be, but it is still somewhat loud when the fans kick up. Is there any danger in switching the frequency to 100M during the day and kicking it up at night when the room is vacant, to the normal level? Does changing this setting daily pose any long term risks to the unit? Is there any way to automate the frequency changing to fit a schedule?

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Quote from: Jake-R on October 05, 2015, 10:14:23 PM

Quote from: notlist3d on October 05, 2015, 09:58:00 PM

On DHCP and DNS what does it show there? Also have you tried with a password?

Those are two things I get out of quick look

It was the password. As soon as I put an X in there it worked!!

Thank you:

Your welcome! Glad that did the fix. I was not 100 percent sure. I thought it had a decent chance

Happy mining! Best of luck with it now its working.

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Quote from: notlist3d on October 05, 2015, 09:58:00 PM

On DHCP and DNS what does it show there? Also have you tried with a password?

Those are two things I get out of quick look

It was the password. As soon as I put an X in there it worked!!

Thank you:

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On DHCP and DNS what does it show there? Also have you tried with a password?

Those are two things I get out of quick look

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Quote from: notlist3d on October 05, 2015, 08:51:06 PM

Quote from: Jake-R on October 05, 2015, 07:28:21 PM

I purchased my S3+ with a nice 850 watt PSU off eBay. I am able to connect to it and pointed it to the Eligius pool. But nothing ever happens. I have reset the device, restarted it and even tried the NiceHash pool. Is there a secret to getting these to start mining? There does not appear to be a "Start" icon anywhere in the gui Sad

If it is setup right it should start automatically. Can you post image of networking and pool settings? Likely within those two screens is something stopping it from running.

Also I would go with a more traditional pool. Nicehash's pay has been bad for a bit, and it needs a patched firmware to truly work within spec. So look in pool forum and pick something else to use that uses a regular stratum pool.

I went ahead and switched back to Eligius.st for the pool. I set the miner to use DHCP because I read on a troubleshooting thread that the user was able to get it mining by doing that. It does not seem to have helped me.

Here are some relevant screens from the miner (click to go to Imgur to enlarge):

Main Overview:

Network Set-up:

Mining Address:

Proof that it can ping the internet:

No mining activity:

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Quote from: Jake-R on October 05, 2015, 07:28:21 PM

I purchased my S3+ with a nice 850 watt PSU off eBay. I am able to connect to it and pointed it to the Eligius pool. But nothing ever happens. I have reset the device, restarted it and even tried the NiceHash pool. Is there a secret to getting these to start mining? There does not appear to be a "Start" icon anywhere in the gui Sad

If it is setup right it should start automatically. Can you post image of networking and pool settings? Likely within those two screens is something stopping it from running.

Also I would go with a more traditional pool. Nicehash's pay has been bad for a bit, and it needs a patched firmware to truly work within spec. So look in pool forum and pick something else to use that uses a regular stratum pool.

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I purchased my S3+ with a nice 850 watt PSU off eBay. I am able to connect to it and pointed it to the Eligius pool. But nothing ever happens. I have reset the device, restarted it and even tried the NiceHash pool. Is there a secret to getting these to start mining? There does not appear to be a "Start" icon anywhere in the gui Sad

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Quote from: Jake-R on September 29, 2015, 11:28:15 AM

I have been shopping for an S3+ on eBay and there appear to be some nice deals that include a decent power supplies. Are there any good questions to ask the sellers that will help a beginner like myself out? For example, I owned a G-Blade several months ago that I purchased from someone on eBay, it worked well, but the fan made a screaming sound for the first minute after starting up. Is the S3+ easy to reset to factory conditions if the seller has changed the admin password? Or is that a potential pitfall?

No you can reset it from button if they did not give you username/pass. But you could ask seller what IP is and username/pass when buying to make life easy.

Biggest thing I can think of is ask if it is hashing like advertised. You could make it as simple of asking "Is only difference between this and new item cosmetic wear?" that covers a lot as far as paypal protection.

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I have been shopping for an S3+ on eBay and there appear to be some nice deals that include a decent power supplies. Are there any good questions to ask the sellers that will help a beginner like myself out? For example, I owned a G-Blade several months ago that I purchased from someone on eBay, it worked well, but the fan made a screaming sound for the first minute after starting up. Is the S3+ easy to reset to factory conditions if the seller has changed the admin password? Or is that a potential pitfall?

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Quote from: Jake-R on September 23, 2015, 12:44:40 AM

I hope the next generation of mining hardware doesn't forget about home people. It's going to be interesting to see what the future brings.

The market for home miners is dead unfortunately. This is the last generation where people are stubbornly holding on. There is too much money for the manufacturers in making mass quantities of data centre deployable miners and no profit in making small miners for the home - and small miners for the home will have increasingly irrelevant hashrates.

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Quote from: Jake-R on September 23, 2015, 12:44:40 AM

I hope the next generation of mining hardware doesn't forget about home people. It's going to be interesting to see what the future brings. I will look into these good suggestions. I hope I can find something that will be compatible with my man-cave / den Cool

If you need quiet the Avalon 4.1 is the leader there, noting is really close to it on power and sound. Other like phil suggested a modded S3 can be underclocked and with different fans run quieter then it was.

I personally suggest staying with air (fan's) vs watercooling on starting mining.

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I hope the next generation of mining hardware doesn't forget about home people. It's going to be interesting to see what the future brings. I will look into these good suggestions. I hope I can find something that will be compatible with my man-cave / den Cool

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Quote from: Jake-R on September 22, 2015, 11:09:57 PM

I found a T-110 on eBay but it is not the "S" version though. I will keep looking. It may not be the best but it appears that it will meet most of my requirements. I hope they are durable.

There have been some good suggestions in this thread. I would avoid Bitcrane. Yes they look cool, but just are pretty dated. And they never had a big following.

Look into some of the other miners mentioned.

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I found a T-110 on eBay but it is not the "S" version though. I will keep looking. It may not be the best but it appears that it will meet most of my requirements. I hope they are durable.

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With winter coming you could buy a cointerra and use it as a heater!

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Quote from: philipma1957 on September 22, 2015, 12:12:52 PM

Quote from: QuintLeo on September 22, 2015, 04:45:18 AM

Quote from: MCHouston on September 21, 2015, 05:35:09 PM

http://www.bitcrane.com/goods.php?id=2

You can find the T-110S around for sale. The S is supposed to stand for silent but I never owned one.

OP asked for modern, not "already outdated by late 2014 technology standards".

Both the S5 and the Spondoolies "rockerbox" based machines blew away anything Bitcrane made.

For "winter use only electric sorta-portable heater" usage, any miner will work.

Not that I want to argue ,but

the avalon 4.1 is the best at this ----- this will do 800gh at 425 watts really quiet but it is costly and hard to find plus it needs a rasp pi

next is the s-3 ---- this will do 400gh at 300-320 watts and with 1 fan mod on the pull end is pretty quiet. if you are handy with resistor solder this can be made to to do 300 gh at 180 watts.

Since you need a space heater either of the two above will be better then just spending the money on heat with no hash.

I like the s-3 better since it is cheaper then the avalon 4.1

I would agree on Avalon 4.1 they are amazing machines. They pack a punch at a very very quiet sound. People really need to hear them in person to believe it.

You did hit the nail on the head is price. It is what stopped many from getting an Avalon 4.1 new or used. They just cost more. But the S5 and SP gear I don't see ever reaching the Avalon 4.1 level.

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Quote from: QuintLeo on September 22, 2015, 04:45:18 AM

Quote from: MCHouston on September 21, 2015, 05:35:09 PM

http://www.bitcrane.com/goods.php?id=2

You can find the T-110S around for sale. The S is supposed to stand for silent but I never owned one.

OP asked for modern, not "already outdated by late 2014 technology standards".

Both the S5 and the Spondoolies "rockerbox" based machines blew away anything Bitcrane made.

For "winter use only electric sorta-portable heater" usage, any miner will work.

Not that I want to argue ,but

the avalon 4.1 is the best at this ----- this will do 800gh at 425 watts really quiet but it is costly and hard to find plus it needs a rasp pi

next is the s-3 ---- this will do 400gh at 300-320 watts and with 1 fan mod on the pull end is pretty quiet. if you are handy with resistor solder this can be made to to do 300 gh at 180 watts.

Since you need a space heater either of the two above will be better then just spending the money on heat with no hash.

I like the s-3 better since it is cheaper then the avalon 4.1

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Quote from: QuintLeo on September 22, 2015, 04:45:18 AM

Quote from: MCHouston on September 21, 2015, 05:35:09 PM

http://www.bitcrane.com/goods.php?id=2

You can find the T-110S around for sale. The S is supposed to stand for silent but I never owned one.

OP asked for modern, not "already outdated by late 2014 technology standards".

Both the S5 and the Spondoolies "rockerbox" based machines blew away anything Bitcrane made.

For "winter use only electric sorta-portable heater" usage, any miner will work.

He asked for 1W per Gh @ around 1000W, with a big requirement for it to be quite so I gave him what he asked for. Only other options is Avalon 4.1 or if he wants to mess with water Antminer C1.

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Quote from: QuintLeo on September 22, 2015, 04:45:18 AM

Quote from: MCHouston on September 21, 2015, 05:35:09 PM

http://www.bitcrane.com/goods.php?id=2

You can find the T-110S around for sale. The S is supposed to stand for silent but I never owned one.

OP asked for modern, not "already outdated by late 2014 technology standards".

Both the S5 and the Spondoolies "rockerbox" based machines blew away anything Bitcrane made.

For "winter use only electric sorta-portable heater" usage, any miner will work.

I would not say any will work. Some if you put it in room the sound will make it not very enjoyable.

I think some miners will be good for heating rooms. Others would require mods to be suitable, and some would never be quiet enough in my mind.

I'm not sure if I will even use the heat myself or if I will just leave in my mining area and enjoy them being out there come winter. Still deciding.

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Quote from: MCHouston on September 21, 2015, 05:35:09 PM

http://www.bitcrane.com/goods.php?id=2

You can find the T-110S around for sale. The S is supposed to stand for silent but I never owned one.

OP asked for modern, not "already outdated by late 2014 technology standards".

Both the S5 and the Spondoolies "rockerbox" based machines blew away anything Bitcrane made.

For "winter use only electric sorta-portable heater" usage, any miner will work.

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Quote from: Jake-R on September 21, 2015, 11:13:06 PM

My electricity costs 10¢ per kilowatt hour. I realize these miners may not pay for themselves, but I can use them to supplement my heating. Winter is coming.

How is the inefficient Bitcrane for quiet? Anyone know?

Very inefficient in my mind they were always built for looks. They looked great but never really had great sales.

As far as first miner S3 is not a bad one to learn with. philipma1957 is a great guy if you are needing one I suggest talking to him about his already modded one.

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Quote from: Jake-R on September 21, 2015, 11:13:06 PM

My electricity costs 10¢ per kilowatt hour. I realize these miners may not pay for themselves, but I can use them to supplement my heating. Winter is coming.

How is the inefficient Bitcrane for quiet? Anyone know?

Buy the s-3 I can get them really quiet .

the bitcrane does like 1 watt per gh.

the s-3 does .75 -.80 watts per gh

if you clock the s-3 to 400gh it burns 300 watts and is pretty quiet.

If you live in the USA I CAN SELL YOU ONE with fan mods to be pretty quiet.

I am taking one off line this Thursday the 24th I could ship it to you if you are in the usa.

hopefully not far from New Jersey.

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My electricity costs 10¢ per kilowatt hour. I realize these miners may not pay for themselves, but I can use them to supplement my heating. Winter is coming.

How is the inefficient Bitcrane for quiet? Anyone know?

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Quote from: alh on September 21, 2015, 06:04:04 PM

As mentioned above, a used Avalon 4.1 will likely meet your desire for quiet, though it too needs a Raspberry Pi or TPlink support processor. They are only found used, and pretty pricey too boot. I have an SP20, and while it can be made quieter if down-clocked hard, it's hardly "Living Room" quiet. I think the S5 can be made quieter, but it's never going to be actually quiet.

I've played with SP20 and Avalon 4.1. The 4.1 is just a lot more quiet. I have yet to see another fan miner compare to it, but it does cost more.

What is your electricity price OP? Before talking all these miners we should really see if you stand a chance at ROI.

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As mentioned above, a used Avalon 4.1 will likely meet your desire for quiet, though it too needs a Raspberry Pi or TPlink support processor. They are only found used, and pretty pricey too boot. I have an SP20, and while it can be made quieter if down-clocked hard, it's hardly "Living Room" quiet. I think the S5 can be made quieter, but it's never going to be actually quiet.

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I think then that you would be most comfortable with one or more the Compac stick miners. You'll was a USB hub assuming you want more than 10-12GH. Everything I've heard about the U# is that it is unreliable. You could also look at one of the Rbox 32GH miners used. Those are very reliable in my opinion, though they are more like 1W/GH. Very quiet, and need a PC to be attached via USB to a PC or Pi. I ran 3 on a Raspberry Pi for 6 months without intervention. They date from 2014.

In terms of the "small home mining" game, nothing recent will fit the bill. The s5 and new S7 are LOUD and hot.

Don't expect to make any money, maybe you break even over a long period of time.

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The bitcrane is extremely inefficient by today's standards. Get an antminer S5 or an avalon 4.1 or spondoolies sp20 as the outgoing most recent technology but you'll almost certainly have to try and find a second hand one.

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Quote from: Jake-R on September 21, 2015, 04:31:49 PM

Are there any modern ASICs available that are currently in production? I know the S7 is coming out soon. What about the Prospero and Avalon miners? I would like to find a stand-alone miner like the the Prospero X-1 that would perform useful work. Does anything like that exist? My searching is yielding results that were manufactured in 2014. My ideal rig that I am looking for would be self contained, include a PSU and work either by Ethernet or wifi and not be too loud (>150 GH/s <100 watts). Anything like that exist?

The hard part is you want a lot with not a lot of hash. You can get a few options on small miners Gekko Sciences Compac miner but you would need a RPI or a computer to run it so not self contained. Same with U3 needs RPI/Computer.

Most quiet fan miner I have used is avalon 4.1. There are water cooling options. But i'm afraid these are going to be a lot more watts then you are wanting.

Are you looking for small miner? If so is using a RPI with it ok?

I'm open to large amounts of hashing power too. I will edit my post. I want something that can run in a living room without being super loud. The BitCrane T-110S looks promising. I have used the Antminer U3 with my PC and I found it to be really flaky and it would stop mining frequently. Another small miner attached to my PC would be acceptable if it was reliable.

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Quote from: Jake-R on September 21, 2015, 04:31:49 PM

Are there any modern ASICs available that are currently in production? I know the S7 is coming out soon. What about the Prospero and Avalon miners? I would like to find a stand-alone miner like the the Prospero X-1 that would perform useful work. Does anything like that exist? My searching is yielding results that were manufactured in 2014. My ideal rig that I am looking for would be self contained, include a PSU and work either by Ethernet or wifi and not be too loud (>150 GH/s <100 watts). Anything like that exist?

The hard part is you want a lot with not a lot of hash. You can get a few options on small miners Gekko Sciences Compac miner but you would need a RPI or a computer to run it so not self contained. Same with U3 needs RPI/Computer.

Most quiet fan miner I have used is avalon 4.1. There are water cooling options. But i'm afraid these are going to be a lot more watts then you are wanting.

Are you looking for small miner? If so is using a RPI with it ok?

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http://www.bitcrane.com/goods.php?id=2

You can find the T-110S around for sale. The S is supposed to stand for silent but I never owned one.

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Are there any modern ASICs available that are currently in production? I know the S7 is coming out soon. What about the Prospero and Avalon miners? I would like to find a stand-alone miner like the the Prospero X-1 that would perform useful work. Does anything like that exist? My searching is yielding results that were manufactured in 2014. My ideal rig that I am looking for would be self contained, include a PSU and work either by Ethernet or wifi and not be too loud (>150 GH/s <100 watts). Anything like that exist?

EDIT: I am changing my requirements to be anything that is quiet enough to be used in a living space. 1 TH/s 1000 watts is acceptable. Standalone preferred. RPI / PC conection acceptable.

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