Moroccan dies in suitcase while smuggled to Spain

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on February 10, 2016, 09:38:49 AM

Quote from: countryfree on February 09, 2016, 08:51:45 PM

There's no war in Morocco. It's assuredly the safest place in North Africa. It sure remains quite far from the safety levels there are in Europe, but young people willing to work can have very nice lives in Morocco. With good weather most of the year.

There is also no free money in Morocco. If you want to succeed, then you should work hard. Obviously the lazy ones and the criminals who don't want to work hard look towards the shortcuts. The most attractive option is immigrating illegally to Spain. But their final destination is not Spain. Most likely, they are going to end up in Northern Europe (i.e Germany / Belgium / Netherlands).

There is also no work in Morocco. If you want to succeed then you can't. Obviously the realist ones who don't want to become slaves will take the only possibility they have. The only solution is immigrating illegally into one of the few countries monopolizing 95% of the wealth in the world.

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Ok, and forgive me for saying this, but so what? What's the point of this?

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Quote from: countryfree on August 04, 2015, 06:44:22 PM

Someone should write a guide about the things not to do to be a successful illegal immigrant.
1/ Don't have a friend lock you up in a suitcase inside the trunk of a car.
2/ Don't try to cross a desert on foot.
3/ Don't get aboard a boat designed for 50 passengers when there's already 500 people there.
Etc, etc...

Actually, it's only common sense.

you are right but some people are doomed to leave their beloved county and immigrate with these inhuman way.. dont blame those people..

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coming like economy migrants or coming from Syria,Iraq one is sure most of them are savages and we hear every day new horrors. Look what happened in Marbella and Vienna with that girl..

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Quote from: bizerinm on February 09, 2016, 08:31:18 PM

They are coming this way long ago, always inventing new places to hide. Solution is stopping war in their countries, but most of them are economy migrants with the goal -Europe

No, last reports say 90% of them come from war countries so even if some of them are just economic migrants it's not the case for most of them.

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Quote from: okae on August 04, 2015, 01:10:11 PM

Quote from: RappelzReborn on August 04, 2015, 12:22:51 PM

They are doing whatever it takes to survive , I'am not sure where do you live but I'am sure if you had same situations as they do , no job , no house not shit .. you will do whatever it takes to save your family and your self from death .

some people will never or just dont want to understand things like that, they are sufficiently comfortable with their pretty lifes... empathy is not for them.

btw the main problem here is why they need to do that, is sad how is going on some "countrys".

yes , you are right if we want to solve this problem, we should identfy the main reason to do these actions..

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Quote from: countryfree on February 09, 2016, 08:51:45 PM

There's no war in Morocco. It's assuredly the safest place in North Africa. It sure remains quite far from the safety levels there are in Europe, but young people willing to work can have very nice lives in Morocco. With good weather most of the year.

There is also no free money in Morocco. If you want to succeed, then you should work hard. Obviously the lazy ones and the criminals who don't want to work hard look towards the shortcuts. The most attractive option is immigrating illegally to Spain. But their final destination is not Spain. Most likely, they are going to end up in Northern Europe (i.e Germany / Belgium / Netherlands).

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Quote from: bizerinm on February 09, 2016, 08:31:18 PM

They are coming this way long ago, always inventing new places to hide. Solution is stopping war in their countries, but most of them are economy migrants with the goal -Europe

There's no war in Morocco. It's assuredly the safest place in North Africa. It sure remains quite far from the safety levels there are in Europe, but young people willing to work can have very nice lives in Morocco. With good weather most of the year.

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They are coming this way long ago, always inventing new places to hide. Solution is stopping war in their countries, but most of them are economy migrants with the goal -Europe

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Quote from: RappelzReborn on August 04, 2015, 04:39:00 AM

Man suffocated to death in car trunk while trying to illegally enter Spanish city of Almeria by ferry.

A 27-year-old Moroccan man has suffocated to death while trying to illegally enter Spain hidden inside a suitcase in the trunk of a car, police have said.

The man's older brother, who appears to have tried to help smuggle him into the southern Spanish city of Almeria by ferry, has been arrested and charged with involuntary manslaughter.

The older man, aged 34, boarded the ferry linking Melilla, a Spanish territory in North Africa, and Almeria with a car on Sunday, a police spokesman said.

During the crossing he noticed that his brother was not breathing and alerted the ferry's staff.

Crew members as well as emergency services workers in the port of Almeria tried in vain to resuscitate the man.

Full story : http://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/world/man-dies-in-suitcase-while-smuggled-to-spain/ar-BBlnxMo?ocid=spartanntp

this story is so heartbreaking.. but authorities must take strict precautions not to happen such sad stories again

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on February 07, 2016, 09:39:06 AM

Quote from: yugo23 on February 07, 2016, 08:27:50 AM

They should try to transform their country not flee it!

I wouldn't blame the immigrants though. The European Union itself is responsible, by attracting these unwashed heathens with welfare payments and free housing. On top of this, the source nations (Morocco, Algeria.etc) are just encouraging this, so that they could get rid of the excess population. Unless the EU changes this strategy, similar incidents will continue to occur at alarming frequency.

Oh I wouldn't blame them either. And EU and USA are responsible for much more than that. They're responsible for the stealing of most of natural ressources, destruction of governments culture and countries, genocide, destruction of languages and histories...

If I were the migrants I would form a huge alliance with Iran to get nuclear power and get independant from the EU and USA, if they ever try to come, nuke the shit out of them.

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In one van they founded 40 people??! How they pass in?? It's unbelievable how they enter all ways.Years ago were incidents like this but it was no such number of people.

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this gotta be a joke . hiding in a suitcase just to go to spain ? well rip to him.

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Quote from: yugo23 on February 07, 2016, 08:27:50 AM

They should try to transform their country not flee it!

I wouldn't blame the immigrants though. The European Union itself is responsible, by attracting these unwashed heathens with welfare payments and free housing. On top of this, the source nations (Morocco, Algeria.etc) are just encouraging this, so that they could get rid of the excess population. Unless the EU changes this strategy, similar incidents will continue to occur at alarming frequency.

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Quote from: designerusa on February 06, 2016, 11:23:50 AM

Quote from: RappelzReborn on August 04, 2015, 04:39:00 AM

Man suffocated to death in car trunk while trying to illegally enter Spanish city of Almeria by ferry.

A 27-year-old Moroccan man has suffocated to death while trying to illegally enter Spain hidden inside a suitcase in the trunk of a car, police have said.

The man's older brother, who appears to have tried to help smuggle him into the southern Spanish city of Almeria by ferry, has been arrested and charged with involuntary manslaughter.

The older man, aged 34, boarded the ferry linking Melilla, a Spanish territory in North Africa, and Almeria with a car on Sunday, a police spokesman said.

During the crossing he noticed that his brother was not breathing and alerted the ferry's staff.

Crew members as well as emergency services workers in the port of Almeria tried in vain to resuscitate the man.

Full story : http://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/world/man-dies-in-suitcase-while-smuggled-to-spain/ar-BBlnxMo?ocid=spartanntp

this is so creepy.. what is the reason for pushing a human put himself in a suitcase to cross the border... what a pitty. i am so sorry for his family..

It's a bit crepy but also a bit funny. I mean comon, what the hell was he thinking? This is real life not Ocean eleven xD
(there is a part of Ocean Eleven where the Asian dude is in a suitcase also)

But anyway yeah it's sad, and it's all because they have a false (totaly false) ope for a better life elsewhere. They should try to transform their country not flee it!

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Quote from: RappelzReborn on August 04, 2015, 04:39:00 AM

Man suffocated to death in car trunk while trying to illegally enter Spanish city of Almeria by ferry.

A 27-year-old Moroccan man has suffocated to death while trying to illegally enter Spain hidden inside a suitcase in the trunk of a car, police have said.

The man's older brother, who appears to have tried to help smuggle him into the southern Spanish city of Almeria by ferry, has been arrested and charged with involuntary manslaughter.

The older man, aged 34, boarded the ferry linking Melilla, a Spanish territory in North Africa, and Almeria with a car on Sunday, a police spokesman said.

During the crossing he noticed that his brother was not breathing and alerted the ferry's staff.

Crew members as well as emergency services workers in the port of Almeria tried in vain to resuscitate the man.

Full story : http://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/world/man-dies-in-suitcase-while-smuggled-to-spain/ar-BBlnxMo?ocid=spartanntp

this is so creepy.. what is the reason for pushing a human put himself in a suitcase to cross the border... what a pitty. i am so sorry for his family..

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Quote from: Daniel91 on February 06, 2016, 08:23:10 AM

Quote from: jak1 on February 06, 2016, 06:40:20 AM

I heard today Austria consider to send army in Serbia and Macedonia to help them to watch border and stop Greece letting them..and plan b to send army on Greek/Turkey border..will see what will happen..

This situation is becoming worse, and refugees increasingly desperate.
Sending army or police to Greek/Turkey border will not solve problem.
We have to solve problem at the origin, in Syria and Iraq.
Someone should finally take responsibility and stop civil war there.
After that, international community should help rebuild this countries and bring all refugees back.
It's only permanent solution to the problem.

Yeah sure and then? you want everyone to be equally developped? Cause else they'll keep coming. And we can't all be equally developed, that's not sustainable.

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Quote from: jak1 on February 06, 2016, 06:40:20 AM

I heard today Austria consider to send army in Serbia and Macedonia to help them to watch border and stop Greece letting them..and plan b to send army on Greek/Turkey border..will see what will happen..

This situation is becoming worse, and refugees increasingly desperate.
Sending army or police to Greek/Turkey border will not solve problem.
We have to solve problem at the origin, in Syria and Iraq.
Someone should finally take responsibility and stop civil war there.
After that, international community should help rebuild this countries and bring all refugees back.
It's only permanent solution to the problem.

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I heard today Austria consider to send army in Serbia and Macedonia to help them to watch border and stop Greece letting them..and plan b to send army on Greek/Turkey border..will see what will happen..

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This is one of the most absurd stories I've heard recently but I don't think it deserves the spotlight it's getting over the situation in the Mediterranean and more specifically Italy and Greece. Turkey is letting smugglers get people to cross the borders with zero checks, ignoring procedures and putting them at risk. And the EU is pressuring the countries saving them, as if the financial crisis wasn't good enough for a hit.

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Almost incredible how can they do this..in summer in Slovenia was a van with 35 illegals..i won't be surprised in one they saw them 200 in a cage for 2

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Quote from: Daniel91 on August 04, 2015, 04:40:23 PM

We can't understand it because we live good lives (the relatively good compared to the people of Africa) and we can not understand the misery and despair of the people of Africa.
What do you think, how much this man was desperate that he was willing to do such crazy thing?
I think that our governments should seriously address this problem and not only addressing the consequences of the problem but also causes.
If we can't solve the politic problems in countries such as Syria and Iraq, Europe will not be able to permanently solve the refugee crisis on its borders.

Have you ever been to Morocco? Morocco is a rich nation, when compared to the other sub-Saharan African nations such as Nigeria and Gambia. So it is certain that this Moroccan guy was not starving, or finding it really difficult to survive out there. If you think that shipping people from the developing world to the developed world is the ultimate solution, then tell me how many of these people you are willing to accept in your country? 1 million? 100 million? Or even 1 billion?

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Quote from: countryfree on August 04, 2015, 06:44:22 PM

Someone should write a guide about the things not to do to be a successful illegal immigrant.
1/ Don't have a friend lock you up in a suitcase inside the trunk of a car.
2/ Don't try to cross a desert on foot.
3/ Don't get aboard a boat designed for 50 passengers when there's already 500 people there.
Etc, etc...

Actually, it's only common sense.

And the worst this people are paying several thousands $ for that.
Getting loans, selling all there property etc.

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Someone should write a guide about the things not to do to be a successful illegal immigrant.
1/ Don't have a friend lock you up in a suitcase inside the trunk of a car.
2/ Don't try to cross a desert on foot.
3/ Don't get aboard a boat designed for 50 passengers when there's already 500 people there.
Etc, etc...

Actually, it's only common sense.

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Its kind of ironic that these countries are acting like their hands are tied and can not do anything to change things. They need to come down hard on the people that supply them board and those that supply them with work. They work on it from that aspect it solves the issue within a matter of months.
The fact they allow people to seek the dream of working in Europe illegally shows how little they care for these peoples lives. Its really that easy,setting up fences will no change a thing.

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Quote from: Deadmau5 on August 04, 2015, 04:44:16 AM

I don't even understand how someone could voluntarily put themselves into a suitcase or not stand it for long at least. The CIA used to use a torture method of locking people in large suitcases or boxes and you start to panic and overheat after a short while.

We can't understand it because we live good lives (the relatively good compared to the people of Africa) and we can not understand the misery and despair of the people of Africa.
What do you think, how much this man was desperate that he was willing to do such crazy thing?
I think that our governments should seriously address this problem and not only addressing the consequences of the problem but also causes.
If we can't solve the politic problems in countries such as Syria and Iraq, Europe will not be able to permanently solve the refugee crisis on its borders.

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Quote from: RappelzReborn on August 04, 2015, 12:22:51 PM

They are doing whatever it takes to survive , I'am not sure where do you live but I'am sure if you had same situations as they do , no job , no house not shit .. you will do whatever it takes to save your family and your self from death .

some people will never or just dont want to understand things like that, they are sufficiently comfortable with their pretty lifes... empathy is not for them.

btw the main problem here is why they need to do that, is sad how is going on some "countrys".

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This is a very sad story, in search for a better life he lost his life. But all in all that is a very silly way to try to smuggle someone. It is a person in a suitcase, it is not a boy or a little girl, it is a fully grown man. How can you consider smuggling an alive human being no matter is it a little kid or a fully grown man is a good idea.

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Quote from: RappelzReborn on August 04, 2015, 12:22:51 PM

They are doing whatever it takes to survive , I'am not sure where do you live but I'am sure if you had same situations as they do , no job , no house not shit .. you will do whatever it takes to save your family and your self from death .

this is no doubt true for some homeless folks who resort to mugging and burglary, the answer is the same, their survival or mine, i wont hand over my country to an invader any more than i would hand over my personal belongings to a thief

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Quote from: saddampbuh on August 04, 2015, 06:11:01 AM

Quote from: pinger on August 04, 2015, 05:05:58 AM

Just perhaps something that can change the world for good, one life can influence the life of others in ways you can never imagine. All lifes are important, even yours saddampbush with your limited mind.

im sure this illegal african immigrant would have discovered the cure for cancer had it lived longer Cry

but seriously, dont expect me to pity people who are invading my country and turning it upside down, they are my enemies

They are doing whatever it takes to survive , I'am not sure where do you live but I'am sure if you had same situations as they do , no job , no house not shit .. you will do whatever it takes to save your family and your self from death .

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I don't really mind illegal immigrants, people will do what they do. It's somewhat sad that they don't realize that the grass is never greener on the other side, it's the same everywhere.
The thing is I don't believe the system currently has the power to completely mesmerize people, everyone still has some lingering awareness of the world beyond the human world and that should be enough to allow people to second-guess themselves. There is unfortunately no solace for someone who knowingly goes against his/her better judgement. As an example, the decision to have babies cannot be a straightforward one for people living in extremely poor or war-ridden countries (as a matter of fact this can be extended to the rest of the world) simply because they would be implicating lives other than their own.

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Quote from: pinger on August 04, 2015, 05:05:58 AM

Just perhaps something that can change the world for good, one life can influence the life of others in ways you can never imagine. All lifes are important, even yours saddampbush with your limited mind.

im sure this illegal african immigrant would have discovered the cure for cancer had it lived longer Cry

but seriously, dont expect me to pity people who are invading my country and turning it upside down, they are my enemies

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Quote from: saddampbuh on August 04, 2015, 04:58:29 AM

nothing of value was lost

Just perhaps something that can change the world for good, one life can influence the life of others in ways you can never imagine. All lifes are important, even yours saddampbush with your limited mind.

really? even someone as him? god you must be a saint or something....

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Quote from: saddampbuh on August 04, 2015, 04:58:29 AM

nothing of value was lost

Just perhaps something that can change the world for good, one life can influence the life of others in ways you can never imagine. All lifes are important, even yours saddampbush with your limited mind.

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Quote from: pinger on August 04, 2015, 04:47:46 AM

Quote from: Deadmau5 on August 04, 2015, 04:44:16 AM

I don't even understand how someone could voluntarily put themselves into a suitcase or not stand it for long at least. The CIA used to use a torture method of locking people in large suitcases or boxes and you start to panic and overheat after a short while.

What I can't understand is why people still want to enter to Spain... How can they be in they country to do this stupid things.

It's not that hard to understand , they don't like the situation in their countries . Spain is near Morroco and it's the portal to Europe . same goes for Algeria and France , people take risks to go with a small boat in 5-10 persons in a small boat .
Two things could happen : he arrive to Europe and make situation to himself or he die on the sea .

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Quote from: Deadmau5 on August 04, 2015, 04:44:16 AM

I don't even understand how someone could voluntarily put themselves into a suitcase or not stand it for long at least. The CIA used to use a torture method of locking people in large suitcases or boxes and you start to panic and overheat after a short while.

What I can't understand is why people still want to enter to Spain... How can they be in they country to do this stupid things.

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I don't even understand how someone could voluntarily put themselves into a suitcase or not stand it for long at least. The CIA used to use a torture method of locking people in large suitcases or boxes and you start to panic and overheat after a short while.

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Man suffocated to death in car trunk while trying to illegally enter Spanish city of Almeria by ferry.

A 27-year-old Moroccan man has suffocated to death while trying to illegally enter Spain hidden inside a suitcase in the trunk of a car, police have said.

The man's older brother, who appears to have tried to help smuggle him into the southern Spanish city of Almeria by ferry, has been arrested and charged with involuntary manslaughter.

The older man, aged 34, boarded the ferry linking Melilla, a Spanish territory in North Africa, and Almeria with a car on Sunday, a police spokesman said.

During the crossing he noticed that his brother was not breathing and alerted the ferry's staff.

Crew members as well as emergency services workers in the port of Almeria tried in vain to resuscitate the man.

Full story : http://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/world/man-dies-in-suitcase-while-smuggled-to-spain/ar-BBlnxMo?ocid=spartanntp

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