Topic: Motivation for Beginners, @Bitcointalk.org Users (Read 499 times)

As my first memory of joining this forum, maybe I won't delete all of this.

Thank you to Peda who motivated me and throughout this conversation, I feel I have gained knowledge that is very useful for me now and in the future.
Salam🙏🙏🙏

I don't know how you where able to process this writeup in your mind and the conviction came that you should make it get to the public but I feel it goes to show that you have to really work on yourself regarding your general thought process, the way you come up with ideas and your ability to answer questions in some couple of minutes without necessarily looking for guide from an external source.

The truth is that what you see here in the forum is just like the normal day to day conversion we have in our normal lives, the only difference is that this forum is just a niche that discusses more of bitcoin related stuff and so I feel that if you are rational and smart enough, even if you are not all that inclined bitcoin wise, you will still figure out how to make meaningfull contribution and ways to create good threads in the forum.

Of course, searching to verify certain fact on the internet isn't out of place as you might not get the detailed information you want to pass across all intact in your brain but it becomes bad when your threads and post lacks originality and always looks like a copied work.

Even the way you delivered this post doesn't speak to well about you if I'm being honest.

It's a shame that the linked topic doesn't contain something about unnecessary quoting, because I don't see a single reason why you quoted the entire OP. Everyone who gave their answer/comment in this topic is in some way an example to the OP and others who read this, so maybe you can think about how your posts look to others who read them.

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As for the doubt as to whether the OP is really a beginner or someone who is just pretending to be one, it is difficult to judge, although I am convinced that some are ready to do anything to catch a few merits. Therefore, extra care is always needed when trying to separate the legitimate ones from the bad ones.

The op has just shown that he might have been here with another account or maybe this is an alt account, if not the op wouldn't have known about what he is saying just in a few days he registered here.
The op did quite well but not too well because despite the rank I really believe that the op is another crypto newbie that still don't know were to start from in this community.
However, it might be that the op is a teacher that likes to teach even when he don't really understand how things works here, however I do  appreciate the work of the op because he has just thought himself what other people might teach him/her.
What I would say concerning this is that, no matter how you are, when you get to somewhere that you are not familiar with you just have to understand how things worked there.

Op I will suggest you take advise given to you by our senior here in this forum, in the education sector there are teachers and students, the teacher do the educating while the students learn and ask questions, but what you are doing now is bypassing your stage or category to a greater one, which you have not yet attain. It is very obvious this is a merit fishing post and by so doing, you will not be getting any merit anywhere. Though you post is quite educating to newbies but it is not in your place to do the teaching most especially when your account was created not quite long. I will advise you do more of commenting than creating of new thread except you are asking a question to the public for now.

Off course this is obviously merit fishing post, the Op is still new to the forum so I’m surprised how he claim to be someone who have already get to know everything about the forum when I saw the subject of the post I thought I will see some meaningful content which I didn’t encounter any however the OP claim to be searching goggle before posting something here which means the op maybe prompt to plagiarism if he didn’t stop it so therefore I think the op should go and learn how the forum operate so that he will be successful here. Some who is less that two weeks here can’t get knowledge to motivate or teach other newbies on forum the OP need to put in effort and learn he will get merit later everybody started lower.

For a beginner you sure did make the OP look like you have been a user for 5 years. Heck, even I don't post like that and I have been here almost 10 years. How many new users you think come in here and can post using all the features like you did? The answer in case you were wondering is 0.

The forum is not that hard to get accustomed to, but as a newbie I can see how it feels like an uphill battle just to get noticed. I felt the same way when I 1st joined. As you start hanging out daily and join into conversations contributing to a discussion without repeating what the last 15 posters in the thread said, you will start being recognized and maybe start earning a few merits here and there. No reason to be in a hurry, even if you are looking to rank up for signature earnings. Just relax and you'll get there.

You are free to do what you want, create or not. But keep in mind that you must respect the forum rules and not go against what users advise you, otherwise your reputation will become a troll. In the meantime, to be true to the rules of the topic on which your posts were identified as AI, and also all three posts were deleted, I will give you a neutral mark. I will remove it when you hear what people are telling you and create posts on your own, without making up stories about how Google Translator can translate your texts with literacy, which you lack in English.

Yes, maybe it is useful for you. Stop using AI for your posts, it is not what expected from newbies.

copyleaks AI Content Detected
hivemoderation 99.9% likely to contain AI Generated Text
sapling.ai Fake: 100.0%

And better delete posts which were made by AI. Because if you'll go forward with AI written posts it will not be something good for your experience on the forum. But you still have a chance to improve. Try to use it!

The color means nothing when it comes to dictating AI-generated posts. It made the original post look like a children's book. The problem with OP is that he is desperate to earn merits and is frustrated that they are not coming as he assumed. He is not also teachable which is why he keeps arguing over what he knows almost nothing about. My advice to you OP is that he should focus on his local board until he has gained some knowledge of how the forum works. He could also take time to learn how to use spelling checkers and language translator software.


OP you don't need a special teacher only if you can observe and read how reputable members write or behave in this forum. One more thing, this forum has respect for knowledge and not religious sentiment.

First of all, I have a question for you: from the topic and the content of the topic, is it the same? We know you are a newbie, which doesn’t mean you have experience with bitcoin or not. To me, I will say you are trying to hunt for merit because creating such a thread given your previous story and tagging the post with motivation is very bad. You too, as a newbie, should be sincere. If you encounter something like what you posted as motivation, won’t you think that maybe the forum is meant for jokes? How can you write a different subject that is different from the content of the topic?

And there are some mistakes you are still making in your post that you do check for information from Google Chrome to ask questions about. If you can check Google Chrome and understand what it means, then what is the purpose of you asking the question again?

In short, all I can say about your post is that if you find English hard to convey, why not base it on only your local board that uses Google translators to know what you are trying to understand in the form?From all indications, if I can say you as a beginner, you didn’t read newbies_ read before posting If not, you won’t be here wasting your time and people's time, claiming you knew bitcoin for couple of years ago.

My guess is that this is a merit fishing attempt but failed as we have seen it. This is what I can share to you OP. You a beginner here in the forum doesn't have to always highlight bitcointalk.org as I can say or use different colors because it's annoying to be honest and to tell you the truth, it's not just low rank but also higher rank where their post is considered spam and deleted because I also have some of my post got deleted even though it isn't out of topic or spam.

While OP most likely used Al tool in some of his previous posts, I don't think that's the case with this post as well.

AI written posts are usually written in a native speaker level of English and that's simply not the case here. After all, he admitted that he wrote that post in his native language first and then used Google translate.

Lol... It's actually funny when I see posts like this.
How would anyone not consider your post to be AI generated when you induce too many color and unnecessary paintings in your writing? ..also, a topic was made about newbies tryna teach others how to progressively survive in here when they're supposed to be learning themselves... isn't this exactly what you're doing?
You've barely got techs to write on critical conversations - meanwhile, that's exactly how anyone would tell if the person behind the OP is sensible enough, talk more of meriting 'em post.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

Hey man, I think you should chill out some.  Folks here have given you solid advice and  if you really wanna be part of this community and contribute in a positive way, you gotta at least consider what they are saying.  Do not just dismiss it or get defensive right off the bat.  It is not good to be stuck in stubborn attitudes and refuse to accept that you can improve.   


"If you can not measure it, you can not improve it."

I get that hearing criticism is hard.  But try looking at it as people trying to help you grow.  Take a step back and reflect on what theyre saying before reacting.  Being open to change takes guts but it is worth it.  A little humility and willingness to admit faults can go a long way. 

If anyone is interested in reading about the context that leads the OP to declare here that some of his posts were generated by AI, read from this post onwards.

Now regarding having to use an AI generated content checker before posting, that is absurd, unless of course one is really leaning heavily on these sort of tools to generate their content to begin with …

The core idea is for a poster to be natural, and convey the ideas he wishes to set forth in a natural way. One is obviously entitled to look up information here and there, and with that generate his own compendium of thoughts, questions, criticisms, appraisals or whatever, but the key, which seems pretty straight forward, is to post using one’s own words. He may also resort to adding a source for further reading, as I very often do (others do it to avoid plagiarism).

Now if one has a hard time expressing himself in a certain language, then at best he may use some sort of tool to spell check or correct is grammar. I don’t know Russian myself for example, so I therefore would not resort to any sort of tool to translate a content that I’ve elaborated into Russian for the sake of publishing the post (with very rare point in time exceptions, which are not the object of debate here).

What’s natural is for people to express themselves in languages that they know to a reasonable extent, in a manner that is readable without too much deciphering from the reader’s point of view (from a language perspective, not content). What’s not natural on the other hand is to have to use translation tools to get a certain content across for whatever goal, and even less so on a regular basis.   

Some people take it a step further nowadays and use AI to generate content. That should clearly not be acceptable, since the poster is not conveying his own thoughts, but rather those of some software. Furthermore, copying and pasting AI generated information is the same as plagiarism from my point of view, as the poster will be posting content not generated by him without providing a source (unless made explicit, which then may shift the problem into another category).

I am what I am, as long as I know the information is a span, yes I will say a span, when I know it is a meter I will definitely tell you a meter too.
So, I'm measuring my abilities, bro.

Oh, so the rules of the game are like that?
 If there are beginners who can convey according to their abilities, How..?

The teacher at school said, don't convey information that you don't know.
And my spiritual teacher taught
1. Honesty is the key to life
2. The information submitted must be sourced that can be accounted for.
3. Must digest the information before conveying it.
And many more things related to life.

Yes, of course you need to see his contribution to the forum and what he does so that the increase is very fast, what things he did so that it would increase, it would be odd if in the first week he was in the forum but like someone who already knew forum.

If the number of fairness is at least 3 weeks for someone to learn quickly to understand a forum to adapt and study forums and is active every day, if he is truly a beginner and a layman of this forum, unless he is a forum's surveillance who has long noticed this forum.
Can you show the account, which makes you think that.

Your right a lot of persons did not get to be themselves their was always a motive for them creating lots of topics in the forum. This time tings are beginning to change people dont merit post based on the content of them advising, sharing knowledge and talking about Bitcoin because most of them are all framed up stories posted to earn rewards. Now the sources are beginning to understand this act and it will soon be taken care as some thread will be moved to off-topic or be locked,

Don't have to blame him though  alot of us (myself) learnt that the hard way, because when you come here to actually fish merit and not contribute or think of cheating the system then you will find out that the system will deal with you. Instead being yourself and giving your best at joining major conversation and being helpful in anyway you is what every newbie needs. Just try reading more and educating your self first then you know what am saying.

@Nechiequ, someone probably already advised you, but forget about everything else and read the rules of the forum (one more and if necessary ten more times until you understand). If you had read those rules, you would know that posting multiple posts in a row is not allowed by the forum rules. You can reply to several posts in one post by adding quotes, but you can also edit the post without having to create a new one.

Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ

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It is wrong that you think that the forum should adapt to you, because it should be the exact opposite. Using AI or plagiarizing is simply wrong, and it will not lead you in the right direction. Use your brain and your words, and then no one will accuse you of doing something wrong.

Ok, I understand your point of view, but that's who I am.
Believe it or not, I will still create.

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I just tried and there are still many shortcomings in what I do..
However, I will continue to try to increase my knowledge about this.

It is interesting to see newbies motivating their fellow newbies. Also interesting seeing newbies teaching fellow newbies, but the most interesting is seeing newbies teaching established members about the forum. Most times I end up not reading such posts  The content of your post might be nice but the caption is rather scary for a newbie to start.

The use of different colours to decorate your posts will not attract attention to you, rather it might end up putting you in people's ignore list. As much as possible, please use the default text colour of the forum.

OP, if a newbie comes to the forum and asks questions that interest him or, on the contrary, writes something useful for the forum on his own, his texts will never be defined as the work of an AI tool.
If someone copies, paraphrases, and translates the work of AI with the help of a translator and then passes it off as their own work, this will always lead to deleted posts.
Don't cheat on the forum. You can check the posts of people who create threads themselves, and you are unlikely to find that AI created the post. Therefore, what you write here, saying that your posts were deleted incorrectly, is the same lie.
But time will tell who you really are.

Stop using colored text.

I see seriousness in your post OP, I believe with time you will get it right in the area of quality post which is the straight way for newbies to grow their account in the bitcointalk.org. I believe many newbies will take something good from your write up, on how to make use of the platform to learn so many things from the senior members which is the best way to learn fast in this platform and local board also which am one of the benefitiary in some legendary and hero members in the bitcointalk.org by reading their comments and replies in some topics in the platform to learn.

Don't forget to wear the garment of patience as a beginner which, is the engine that is keeping many beginners in this platform because they believe that some day they will become legendary or Hero members in the platform.

Yes of course right, but my aim is nothing else, because I want my posts to come from sources that have been acknowledged,
So none of my speculations are too far-fetched & inconsequential.

So don't use AI tools to create posts for this forum.
We all know about the existence of AI tools here, but few of us want to talk to a machine. AI-generated texts are often useless and unreadable because they do not contribute new ideas, but only pure expression of phrases.
Even if it's true that you didn't use AI for your posts, and they were deleted again by the moderators, that's just a sign that you wrote something completely off-topic and useless. This should be a signal to you that you need to raise the quality of what you write, not just throw out a bunch of text.

So, here's what happened, before I posted this "Beginner Motivation", I had also done a post which was quite time-consuming, and when I uploaded it to this forum, for some reason someone reported my post, and there was complete proof. "Content detected 90% of it comes from AI".
About 5 posts that I made were deleted from the forum, then I tried to double-check and look for a solution related to this, in my mind, if left like this, most beginners who have just joined and made posts will definitely feel disappointed if their posts are considered spam or AI content.

#Already long X wide, as if not appreciated.

Thank you for sharing your knowledge with newbies like you. What perplexes me is that you claim to be a talented writer while claiming that most of your postings are said to be AI generated. I don't believe there is any link between a talented writer and an AI-generated post. AI uses information from the internet to provide you with an answer. Do you obtain knowledge in any way similar to the AI? If that's not the case, why is your posts suddenly considered as an AI generated?

Wow, what the hell is that...

You know, bitcointalk.org isn't a religion, you can behave here (did I mention that I'm talking about bitcointalk.org ? ) like a untroubled, and relaxed human. You're not in front of a court.

Things escalated quickly.
You started this topic in the hope that it would be of help to newbies, two hours later you asked questions about how to become a full member in less than two months.


He can't explain what YOU mean.

Can you?


Wtf does this mean? You should learn to recognize that not everyone holds the same religious perspective as you, and not everyone shares faith in your concept of an almighty god.

If our source came from the internet and there is information that is in there and not available anywhere else,   we should always give credit to the source of information by simply giving the link of the source of information.  It is not a good character to steal others' research by rewording or changing words and claiming them as our own.  It also give more credibility to our post if we give supporting links about what we are talking about.  So we should not shy away from posting the reference link or supporting link to give our post credibility.

Is all this story necessary? I don't really think so. Nobody cares about what you and your friend are discussing or where you and your friends are having the discussion, all I can say you are looking for is attention. Your friend told you that discussions about the forum can be done on laptops, cellphones, and the like? I will like to know what your friend is talking about. Seriously, the post that you just created is really of no use, and it's too obvious that you are hunting for merit. If you think you will get merit from posts like this, you are just deceiving yourself, you won't be getting any merit, even if you create multiple threads.

I didn't see anything useful to me in your post. Also, a newbie that's supposed to be seeking advice is the one advising other forum members. I don't know if the advice is for newbies like you or even high-ranking members. It's better to come up with a post that will be more useful to the forum, and if you don't have any, just keep on making contributions to the forum by making comments. If your comment is useful, you are still going to receive the merit that you are looking for.

This is actually rough work, and it's not looking very catchy to the eyes. After looking at the topic and expecting the best out of whatever the OP might have to say, but opening and realizing that it's a newbie making a mess, I feel a kind of disappointment. But I guess we learn from our mistakes. Learn first before you teach others. There are many topics or forum rules and guidelines, and I bet that you have not completely read them. Don't be in a rush to teach; perhaps you can contribute on other topics until you actually have a better topic to add. In my opinion, it's not a word to hurt you.

So this is motivation from beginners for beginners? Yes, there is nothing that forbids you from giving motivation to anyone, but I think it is quite strange if you often discuss bitcointalk offline with your friends even though you have just joined this forum. Do you study forums without logging in?

In my opinion, if we type our own writing/posts in our own language style and from our own thoughts, it will very rarely be considered as writing created using AI. I've never experienced it

I think I also need to tell you not to use too many colors, bold letters, and emojis because it makes the writing unpleasant to read. One motivation that can be encouraging for new members is that in this forum we can make money just by discussing, often this motivation is more effective than others.

What a wow.

Okay let me pretend as if I didn’t read about the part where you and your friend do go out to just to discuss Bitcointalk, let’s talk about why anyone would need a word counter to post here in Bitcointalk? Is there a hidden rule that states that users must make post up to a certain length before it will be accepted here in the forum?

And you’re not doing a good job yourself, stop the excessive usage of “emojis” you’re not on WhatsApp or Facebook so stop posting like you’re in a social media.

I had to check the profile to see how long the op has stay in this forum that he wants to advise newbies. Sadly, I opened the thread and there's no single motivation here. Before you motivate someone, you also need to be familiar with what you are motivating people to. The reverse is the case here because someone who is acquainted with the forum will never write like this with unbefitting and unnecessary emojis. Even if you want to farm for merits, at least you should do it honourably.

Yeah, that's true, sometimes I also wonder, there's a new account of less than 2 months, and it's already a full member.
Can you explain what I mean?

Either he is good at learning forums, once entered another forum that is similar to Bitcointalk, or anything, but that doubted me too because he had just registered, and his activities were also only a few, in my thinking it was also something that was not a beginner doing that. Quickly, moreover he seemed to understand the forum, I was sure he was an old player in this forum.

Oh, so that's the risk of posting being considered spam?
Wow, I'm also a beginner, I really need to post QUALITY
They say that's how it is, especially if we post it on global auto, lots of people will criticize it
But I don't really believe in your tutorial or suggestions
But I'll try it, maybe it's useful for me now and in the future.

When I saw the title for this topic I think that i was about to read something about motivation to stay in the forum... but no.

Sometimes I feel a little motivated to post here, I try a lot to find good technical topics to write something about my own experience but most of those are already answered by the same regular users of the forum in most cases they already write what i want to write and i don't see point to repeat the same over and over.

I thank you for a nice write-up. But here is the thing with the forum we usually frown on newbies giving advice to other newbies. It is like a player telling a coach what to do. It makes no sense. As a newbie it is expected that your time should be spent more on Reading and understanding the forum before dishing out advice two others like yourself. Desist from this act.

Yes, I will try to edit it later.
Thank you

Buddy, you are overdoing it again. Just behave normal and everything will be fine.

I will try your suggestions. Thank you for your feedback and advice, my friend. 🙏🙏🙏
May the goodness of it become a deed, and may you be blessed by the Almighty.
And may you and your family always be granted health and happiness.
Aameen...

The worst I've seen so far. Just 10 days an he has already being accused of using Ai to create his post. Op, your idea of using different colors in your post makes it quite annoying to me. I don't know about other members but I think you should use less of the colors in your post. And your idea of giving advice to newbies is wired, because from the look of things you need to learn more about creating quality posts.


I still don't understand what trading have to do with your writing style.

Buddy, you registered 10 days ago and already giving advice to other newbie members so your post will be seen nothing other than a merit fishing attempt, and a pretty bad one.

My advice to you is to focus on an actual conversations with other members (as that's the main purpsoe of forum) and merit will come.

Let me give you my first experience joining this @Bitcointalk.org.
As a beginner sometimes my posts are considered spam or come from Ai,
I'm here trying to straighten out what happened, basically I'm a beginner,
but before I create an account @Bitcointalk.org I often joined my friends in discussing the this forum discussion live, taking place at home (reunion) while having a chat, sometimes in a nearby coffee shop, sometimes in a magnificent & beautiful cafe, and there are still many places we visited.
For a long time, my friend taught me how to discuss on the site, my friend said that discussions on this forum can be done using laptops, cellphones and the like, the important thing is that the posts must be useful & quality. Incidentally, I only rely on my cellphone.

To post or reply to posts I always look for information from:
       • CHROME
      • GOOGLE BARD, and similar. To be more accurate.
but I didn't copy it, instead I read the related information first, and I digested it, then I wrote it in a way that was important and useful, then I uploaded my post on the forum.

The tools I use:

     • WORD Counter : Using an Internet Connection
     • Post Topic        : available on this forum.
     • Mobile Notes         : Available on mobile (Offline)

However, what I often use is Mobile Notes, because it doesn't use an internet connection, and it's comfortable for me to write, if I use a direct internet connection like in WORD Counter or  Post Topic. Errors often occur (error for various reasons).

Sometimes I am considered not a beginner, but rather an expert at this, maybe before I registered an account, I had studied it first.
Even though I am a beginner on this forum, my experience in trading and cryptocurrencies is quite good, because around the beginning of 2019 I entered the world of trading, and my writing style is honestly, I work on freelance (write), and so. Sometimes my writing is also considered, like a robot (AI).


My advice for beginners is to be careful when posting, you should CLICK HERE

TO AVOID UNWANTED THINGS. Like me recently , I have worked hard, but my content is considered 90% generated by Ai robots.
How to use it is quite easy:
In-Site Appearance

1. Click the Clear button then Copas
2. Click the button Submit
The minimum writing is: 750-8.192 characters.


For BEGINNERS... I hope this can help.
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏
This post is also available on: "MY LOCAL POST" The goal is to make it clearer and easier for beginners to understand.
Because when I write the original version (Local Indonesian) and then enter it into Google Translate (Indonesia=English), sentence errors often occur. (Perhaps because the phrasing of the sentence is difficult to interpret accurately).
So, I made the original version of the post.