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Topic: Mt Gox is bankrupt, and Mark Karpeles is a thief! (Read 9118 times)

hero member
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Maybe not thief, just incompetent. No proof, that it was he who stole bitcoins.
It's really hard to say which scenario is more believable.

It's already been reported that Mark managed to embezzled millions out of MtGox. Now you have the US Government going after MtGox along with Toyko. I wouldn't be surprised if next we read about Mark being added to Interpol's wanted list.



Please show us where thats been reported. 

He hasnt run as far as anyones aware so i dont see why he would need to be added to Interpols most wanted list.  Wouldnt it just be easier to send the local police to his home or office?

What office? MtGox office doesn't exist anymore and for we know Mark could emailing the media from some beach in Timbuktu.
legendary
Activity: 2674
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Terminated.
Anyone who used them after 2011 is either mentally challenged or a masochist.
Well, we have many mentally challenged people in the world now.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 254
Maybe not thief, just incompetent. No proof, that it was he who stole bitcoins.
It's really hard to say which scenario is more believable.

It's already been reported that Mark managed to embezzled millions out of MtGox. Now you have the US Government going after MtGox along with Toyko. I wouldn't be surprised if next we read about Mark being added to Interpol's wanted list.



Please show us where thats been reported. 

He hasnt run as far as anyones aware so i dont see why he would need to be added to Interpols most wanted list.  Wouldnt it just be easier to send the local police to his home or office?
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Anyone who used them after 2011 is either mentally challenged or a masochist.

I once dated a mentally challenged masochist, and have the teeth MARKS to prove it. To this day, I can't get her KARP-smelling cunt outta my mind.
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 501
Maybe not thief, just incompetent. No proof, that it was he who stole bitcoins.
It's really hard to say which scenario is more believable.

It's already been reported that Mark managed to embezzled millions out of MtGox. Now you have the US Government going after MtGox along with Toyko. I wouldn't be surprised if next we read about Mark being added to Interpol's wanted list.

hero member
Activity: 575
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The North Remembers
Anyone who used them after 2011 is either mentally challenged or a masochist.
hero member
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Merit: 622
So far Mark is a reliable and trustworthy person, i will fight for him until proven otherwise!
He´s Bitcoin´s savior!

Dude, you owe me a new sarcasm detector.

hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 500
So far Mark is a reliable and trustworthy person, i will fight for him until proven otherwise!
He´s Bitcoin´s savior!


"Tell us more, Great One!"

He's “Wrongamundo”  Wink
legendary
Activity: 2674
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Terminated.
I wouldn't be surprised if a year later my computer freezes and the screen is forever showing a picture of him holding a frappichino. It'll be a new kind of troll virus.

Introducing the Karppuccino: (insert best humor tagline here--the word 'stink', as in the fish, comes to mind)
Time to start coding.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
I wouldn't be surprised if a year later my computer freezes and the screen is forever showing a picture of him holding a frappichino. It'll be a new kind of troll virus.

Introducing the Karppuccino: (insert best humor tagline here--the word 'stink', as in the fish, comes to mind)
hero member
Activity: 854
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rgbkey.github.io/pgp.txt
I wouldn't be surprised if a year later my computer freezes and the screen is forever showing a picture of him holding a frappichino. It'll be a new kind of troll virus.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
I also saw a nice lawyer lady today.
What did she advise you to do?

It would be interesting to know, because there are so few details about actual legal challenges involving btc amounts.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
This is Bitcoin:   Steal millions - Get beat up on an Internet forum - Profit!   Cool

The memes! Don't forget to include the memes in your assessment.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
So far Mark is a reliable and trustworthy person, i will fight for him until proven otherwise!
He´s Bitcoin´s savior!


"Tell us more, Great One!"
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
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So far Mark is a reliable and trustworthy person, i will fight for him until proven otherwise!
He´s Bitcoin´s savior!
sr. member
Activity: 312
Merit: 250
I, like any reasonable person would, had most of my Bitcoin in several cold storage wallets.  But I did have Bitcoins, not an insubstantial amount, on several exchanges including MtGox.  I also saw a nice lawyer lady today.  I also took all my Bitcoins out of every exchange.  You should too.

Stop trading, folks.  If Mark can get away with this then so can anyone else.
legendary
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This is Bitcoin:   Steal millions - Get beat up on an Internet forum - Profit!   Cool
full member
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Man, how do you accidentally lose three-quarter million bitcoins and not notice. It's like sleeping through Hiroshima and not noticing anything different when you wake up.
it is very sensible to put the japan context into your comparison.

legendary
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Twitter @realmicroguy
sr. member
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Maybe not thief, just incompetent. No proof, that it was he who stole bitcoins.

You don't just accidentally lose 750k BTC over the course of several years without noticing anything wrong. Mark knew.

I can't seem to find any official press about this. This could be a hoax.

Also Gox.com the website is register by Mark on the 24-2-2014

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Registrant Name: Mark Karpeles
Registrant Organization: MtGox Co.,Ltd.
Registrant Street: Cerulean Tower 15F
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legendary
Activity: 1639
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I had a few people email me today about Gox failing. I think the general sentiment is that whoever put their money into Gox and pretend currencies is an idiot that deserves to be robbed blind by the other idiots that were in control of the pretend money.

Don't lose sleep over your stupid decision to leave money in the hands of Mark Karpeles. We all make bad decisions. I lost 4 btc in Gox. Oh well.
newbie
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"Mt Gox is bankrupt, and Mark Karpeles is a thief!"
well that is a fact... but question is: whether they will be prosecuted for their actions. I think he should be brought to justice.

To justice? I think nothing will happen.

He cheated me so I haven't a problem to pay the rest of my Coins for his head!

me too... somebody should do something about it, for the satisfaction of all the victims of his robbery. And Im not saying torturing him and anybody else involved slowly and skillfully... Im not saying that..
legendary
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Terminated.
You have two scenarios:
A team which has only one job, being the middle man in transaction and securing the funds to be blind for several years while money was being stolen by a hack.
or
Mark took stole all the coins and ran away.

This title is correct, and I'll support it anytime.
I'm pretty sure there was no "team". All along it's just been Mark, with his only employees being AML and customer support staff.
Which makes this even worse.
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
"Mt Gox is bankrupt, and Mark Karpeles is a thief!"
well that is a fact... but question is: whether they will be prosecuted for their actions. I think he should be brought to justice.

To justice? I think nothing will happen.

He cheated me so I haven't a problem to pay the rest of my Coins for his head!
full member
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"Mt Gox is bankrupt, and Mark Karpeles is a thief!"
well that is a fact... but question is: whether they will be prosecuted for their actions. I think he should be brought to justice.
newbie
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Merit: 0
Mark Karpeles is an incompetent piece of shit!
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
MTGOX.COM

LOL

Quote
Dear MtGox Customers,

In light of recent news reports and the potential repercussions on MtGox's operations and the market, a decision was taken to close all transactions for the time being in order to protect the site and our users. We will be closely monitoring the situation and will react accordingly.

Best regards,
MtGox Team

What the hell does any of this have to do with their inability to enable withdrawals?

What "situation"? The fact that they lost customer funds?

TRANSLATION: "Hmm let's monitor the fact that we lost people's money and see if the money somehow magically reappears!"


ROFL!
sr. member
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The title is inaccurate no matter what is going on with MtGox, because if anything, MtGox is insolvent, not bankrupt.

Being on the run, i.e. living in fear, is not fun. Not even for an anonymous darknet marketplace admin would it be fun, when the chances of being found are minimal. For Karpeles, if indeed MtGox is insolvent due to theft, it makes more sense to be honest about what happened and declare bankruptcy.



Man, how do you accidentally lose three-quarter million bitcoins and not notice. It's like sleeping through Hiroshima and not noticing anything different when you wake up.

If you're a cockroach...

sr. member
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Merit: 250
American1973
Man, how do you accidentally lose three-quarter million bitcoins and not notice. It's like sleeping through Hiroshima and not noticing anything different when you wake up.

And staying quiet about it, lying about radiation, feeding customers irradiated shitcoins, etc...
legendary
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You have two scenarios:
A team which has only one job, being the middle man in transaction and securing the funds to be blind for several years while money was being stolen by a hack.
or
Mark took stole all the coins and ran away.

This title is correct, and I'll support it anytime.
I'm pretty sure there was no "team". All along it's just been Mark, with his only employees being AML and customer support staff.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
Maybe not thief, just incompetent. No proof, that it was he who stole bitcoins.
It's really hard to say which scenario is more believable.
You have two scenarios:
A team which has only one job, being the middle man in transaction and securing the funds to be blind for several years while money was being stolen by a hack.
or
Mark took stole all the coins and ran away.

This title is correct, and I'll support it anytime.
full member
Activity: 141
Merit: 100
Where is Mark now?

The wallstreet journel interviewers don't want to make a phone call?

newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Man, how do you accidentally lose three-quarter million bitcoins and not notice. It's like sleeping through Hiroshima and not noticing anything different when you wake up.
I think Mark is still sleeping, dreaming.
legendary
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Man, how do you accidentally lose three-quarter million bitcoins and not notice. It's like sleeping through Hiroshima and not noticing anything different when you wake up.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
So what's the proper term here: Goxed or Zhuo Tonged?
I think there are several words for this.
"Raped" was the first that came to my mind.
Thanks for making that much clearer.
I was worried that people did not see what I wrote, again, thanks.
sr. member
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Life is a Bitcoin, then you die.
legendary
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Merit: 1004
Maybe not thief, just incompetent. No proof, that it was he who stole bitcoins.
It's really hard to say which scenario is more believable.

He is both.

They goxxed and sturled* potential customers until the end: "Trade with confidence ....."

*
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5355721
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5356009

Bitcoin needs a Maidan to repel these people out of the community.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
So what's the proper term here: Goxed or Zhuo Tonged?
I think there are several words for this.
"Raped" was the first that came to my mind.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Sue me if the title is libelous. AND, I'm not changing the title.

~Bruno Kucinskas

Until he returns all customer funds the title is accurate.

I'm sick with this naive community.... first they saw the warning on the walls, they still ignored and used Gox. Then they still hoped and thought noway MtGox is bankrupted. Some even sent fiat money into to "took advantage" of the low price. Now they still think oh.... MtGox is just a failed business run by an incompetent CEO.

Seriously ppl? WAKE THE FCK UP DUMBASSES!

ftfy
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304834704579404101502619422?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304834704579404101502619422.html

Any company that goes as far as to delete their website and all their tweets on Twitter is a fuckin' crook in my book. The motherfucker is on the run! Mark my words.

MARK KARPELES IS A PIECE OF SHIT!
hero member
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Sue me if the title is libelous. AND, I'm not changing the title.

~Bruno Kucinskas

Until he returns all customer funds the title is accurate.

I'm sick with this naive community.... first they saw the warning on the walls, they still ignored and used Gox. Then they still hoped and thought noway MtGox is bankrupted. Some even sent fiat money into to "took advantage" of the low price. Now they still think oh.... MtGox is just a failed business run by an incompetent CEO.

Seriously ppl? WAKE THE FCK UP DUMBASSES!
legendary
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I am not sure Mark Karpeles stole any coins, no evidence to prove either way.

However, I am sure he knew Gox is short on coins. There is no way a CEO would not know how much coins are in the hot and cold wallets. If he knew Gox is down on bitcoins and tried to cover it up, isn't this fraud?
hero member
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Merit: 500
Maybe not thief, just incompetent. No proof, that it was he who stole bitcoins.

Really ... we are going to pull that old chestnut ...what about "FIXING a TECHNICAL ISSUE" ..nothing to see here ...keep trading ..its all good

Yeah that all sounds like an honest man .....
hero member
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Merit: 500
So what's the proper term here: Goxed or Zhuo Tonged?
I think there are several words for this.
"Raped" was the first that came to my mind.

Prison style ...no lube or love ...lolz
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
So what's the proper term here: Goxed or Zhuo Tonged?
I think there are several words for this.
"Raped" was the first that came to my mind.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1473
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Sue me if the title is libelous. AND, I'm not changing the title.

~Bruno Kucinskas

Until he returns all customer funds the title is accurate.
legendary
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Merit: 1001
I'd fight Gandhi.
So what's the proper term here: Goxed or Zhuo Tonged?
legendary
Activity: 1639
Merit: 1006
I think the general consensus is that Mark is just an idiot. But even an idiot knows how to CYA.

So my guess is that he is a millionaire idiot and will have a cold storage wallet with millions in bitcoins no matter what hole in the world we all chase him to.

full member
Activity: 207
Merit: 100
Maybe not thief, just incompetent. No proof, that it was he who stole bitcoins.

You don't just accidentally lose 750k BTC over the course of several years without noticing anything wrong. Mark knew.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1013
Maybe not thief, just incompetent. No proof, that it was he who stole bitcoins.
It's really hard to say which scenario is more believable.
full member
Activity: 203
Merit: 100
Maybe not thief, just incompetent. No proof, that it was he who stole bitcoins.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Sue me if the title is libelous. AND, I'm not changing the title.

~Bruno Kucinskas
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