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Topic: 债权人再次愤怒,日本安排Mt.Gox会议 (Read 2716 times)

member
Activity: 88
Merit: 10
草了,我的100个b彻底完了啊 Angry Angry
土豪,鉴定完毕
member
Activity: 88
Merit: 10
mt的胖子到现在都没解释,逍遥法外,没天理
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
我现在非常庆幸当初没有赶潮流注册Mt.Gox,我有几位同事损失惨重
我也庆幸审查没通过
member
Activity: 63
Merit: 10
草了,我的100个b彻底完了啊 Angry Angry
member
Activity: 63
Merit: 10
我现在非常庆幸当初没有赶潮流注册Mt.Gox,我有几位同事损失惨重
我也很庆幸,不然全完了
member
Activity: 63
Merit: 10
失踪的btc的去向至今是一个谜
full member
Activity: 208
Merit: 100
我现在非常庆幸当初没有赶潮流注册Mt.Gox,我有几位同事损失惨重
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
没有任何办法制止他,但是区块查询查不到这些币的下落吗?
莫名其妙就丢了,有蹊跷!
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
Mt涉及的债权人太大 几乎世界各地都有 受害者很难集中起来一起维权
full member
Activity: 143
Merit: 100
他们就是一群混蛋.骗了全世界的钱和比特币.请还钱给我们 Sad
member
Activity: 63
Merit: 10
没有任何办法制止他,但是区块查询查不到这些币的下落吗?
member
Activity: 61
Merit: 10
操蛋的mt啊,坑惨了多少人啊
member
Activity: 64
Merit: 10
这是世界上最荒谬的事情了,随便一个理由就冻结提现,然后宣布破产,免除了责任。
荒谬也没办法,人家已经申请了破产保护,政府也已经同意。
这就是欺压百姓,百姓又没办法
888
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
这是世界上最荒谬的事情了,随便一个理由就冻结提现,然后宣布破产,免除了责任。
荒谬也没办法,人家已经申请了破产保护,政府也已经同意。
888
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
我怀疑就是被自己盗走了 

这个是大家都在怀疑的问题,但谁也不能肯定这是真的
888
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
MTG已经失去了人们的信心,名声已臭,到现在还有人想要重新做起。
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
这是世界上最荒谬的事情了,随便一个理由就冻结提现,然后宣布破产,免除了责任。
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
★Bitin.io★ - Instant Exchange
我怀疑就是被自己盗走了 
jr. member
Activity: 59
Merit: 10
这些币我个人怀疑都被mt私吞了,还有背后的权势支持
有这个可能,背后的肯定是日本政府,联系日本当时的局势可以理解的
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 10
这些币我个人怀疑都被mt私吞了,还有背后的权势支持
member
Activity: 111
Merit: 100
靠这个事情 还有完美完啊
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
MTGOX这个垃圾平台.卷了多少人的比特币和美刀跑了.现在还能在日本逍遥法外 Angry
hero member
Activity: 630
Merit: 500
我们都套了不少b在mt,现在等的越久,拿回的几率越低,而且很可能是要先赔日本国内的债权人先,这样更无语了。
现在基本没有希望了 Smiley 很多人都放弃追回
member
Activity: 102
Merit: 10
我们都套了不少b在mt,现在等的越久,拿回的几率越低,而且很可能是要先赔日本国内的债权人先,这样更无语了。
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
这个悬案应尽快得到查实,不然对不起我们玩家啊
full member
Activity: 484
Merit: 101
不是可以查所有的交易吗?区块里看得清清楚楚,怎么查了一年连丢了多少币都没有查出来?
有鬼啊,真相没被披露,这么大的量肯定有线索的吧
是不是不想查啊
member
Activity: 82
Merit: 10
不是可以查所有的交易吗?区块里看得清清楚楚,怎么查了一年连丢了多少币都没有查出来?
有鬼啊,真相没被披露,这么大的量肯定有线索的吧
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
不是可以查所有的交易吗?区块里看得清清楚楚,怎么查了一年连丢了多少币都没有查出来?
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
mt的币丢失的原因肯定有鬼,
这是炒作吗
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
要找回那批币估计有点悬了,节哀吧   Huh Cry
full member
Activity: 220
Merit: 100
mt的币丢失的原因肯定有鬼,
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
不到一年前,Mt.Gox还处在加密货币世界的巅峰。全球最大的加密货币交易所Mt.Gox是多年的行业领导者。但去年一系列毁灭性的“盗窃”灾难,迫使该公司冻结提款,最终宣布破产。更多的证据揭露出来,精彩大戏还在继续,很多投资者的声音是关于Mt.Gox的清算人,Nobuaki Kobayashi和质询真相,丢失的数百万美元和据称捡回来的20万比特币到底是怎会回事。
庞大的开支,但没有答案
Mt.Gox声称在2-28-2014持有3千万美元,但五月底,这一数字迅速下降至7百万美元。大量现金损失的原因是清算人Kobayashi的累积“费用”。
karepels mark,Mt.Gox 首席执行官,占88%股份,前在美国正被Mt.Gox债权人法院起诉,面临欺诈和重大过失罪。
利益冲突
清算人有义务依法清算Mt.Gox的资产,法院可以将资产公正分割。清算人还可以使用合法帐户来支付在履行职责过程中所发生的任何费用。但tibanne是,或已是,基本控制了Mt.Gox和持有该公司的大部分资产。对清算人先支付母公司,后清算一个破产公司,是高度可疑的。
马克卡珀利斯在推特上声称,完全没有意识到需要这样一个支付才能接收资产,清算人到目前为止没有做出任何声明,关于新发现的文件和先支付20万美元给母公司。该文件明确的是,母公司tibanne聘请了另一家公司为Mt.Gox履行服务。
Mt.Gox履行服务。
尚不明确这家公司的名称和履行什么服务,但是,一种观点认为,清算人协商先支付一个月的服务费用,然后终止合同,这样没有责任,但Kobayashi 保持沉默。
债权人会议已定于2014年7月23日下午1点,在东京地方法院(1号会议室)开始。会议的目的是让债权人提供一份清算报告,关于目前的资产及其现状。但现在这些资产的金额只有7百万美元,许多债权人可能会选择不参加,不必支付日本昂贵的差旅费用。
评论:门头沟真是一场大戏,我们都期待看到它如何收场。
 
Less than one year ago Mt. Gox was on top of the cryptocurrency world. The globe’s largest cryptocurrency exchange Mt. Gox was poised to be an industry leader for many years. But disaster struck last year after a devastating series of “thefts” that eventually forced the company to freeze withdrawals and eventually declare bankruptcy. The drama continues however as more evidence comes to light, investors voice numerous complaints about Mt. Gox Liquidator, Nobuaki Kobayashi and questions about what exactly happened to the millions of dollars lost and the 200,000 bitcoins that were supposedly salvaged.
Huge Expenses but no Answers
Mt. Gox claimed on 28 February, 2014 that it was holding $US30 million but by May that number was down to $US7 million and dropping fast. The biggest reason for the massive cash losses have been the “expenses” accrued by the Liquidator, Kobayashi. On one instance, that was discovered in newly released documents, Mt. Gox paid its parent company, Tibanne $US200,000 for “services rendered” and in another the bill for preparing and mailing out notices (fancy double sealed postcards) to the creditors is said to be as high as $US100,000. Expenses have averaged $4 million a month and, at the rate they are going, will completely deplete the fund before the leaves on the trees begin to fall, with the creditors seeing none of it.
The silence from the Liquidator has been deafening. Despite a deadline of November28, 2014, no claim forms have been made available. The investigation is set to begin in February, 2015 and a date for the distribution of any remaining funds has not been set. Although this is nearly pointless at this rate unless the 200,000 bitcoins can be located. Mark Karepels, the CEO and 88% shareholder of Mt. Gox, is currently in litigation in US courts facing claims of fraud and gross negligence by Mt. Gox creditors.
Conflict of Interest
The Liquidator has an obligation under the law to liquidate Mt. Gox’s assets so that the court can distribute them fairly and equitably. The Liquidator can also legally use monies from the account to pay for any expenses incurred in the performance of their duties. But Tibanne is, or was, in primary control of Mt. Gox and owned the majority of the company. It is highly questionable for the Liquidator to pay the parent company to liquidate a company in bankruptcy.
Unfortunately not much is known yet about exactly what duties Tibanne performed for the Nobuaki Kobayashi because it was heavily redacted, which is very unusual in a civil case. Plaintiffs have the right to “discover” non-proprietary documentary evidence. There are conditions under which certain information can be redacted but this information did not fall into those categories and the court gave no special orders.
Mark Karpeles claims on Twitter to have been totally unaware that such a payment had been made for received and the Liquidator has so far avoided making any statement about the newly revealed documents and the US$200,000 payment to the parent company. The document does make clear however that the parent company, Tibanne, hired another company to perform services for Mt. Gox.
The name of the other company or what services were provided has not yet become clear, however. One theory suggests that the Liquidator negotiated the payment for one month’s service, and after that terminating the contract with no liability but Kobayashi is silent.
A creditor’s meeting has been scheduled for July 23, 2014 at the Tokyo District Court Place for Creditors’ (Meeting Number 1) beginning at 1 pm. The meetings purpose is to allow the liquidator to provide creditors with a report of the current assets and their status. But as those assets now only amount to US$7 million, many of the creditors will probably choose to skip it rather than pay for an expensive trip to Japan.
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from: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112026/creditors-outraged-again-meeting-scheduled-with-mt-gox-in-japan
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