Topic: Mtgox Stolen Bitcoins moving into MaidSafe&#039;s IPO? (Read 21088 times)

Quote from: RawDog on April 24, 2014, 02:33:15 PM

How difficult could it be to attach a keylogger to his computer while he is out for a frappuccino?

Karpeles, after all was extremely intelligent and was ultra-careful about the security issues. And he was in to programming ever since he was just 12 years old. Do you think it will be that easy to steal data from such a person using a keylogger?

Wait.
If he was "extremely intelligent and was ultra-careful about the security issues", then how do you explain the devastating pair of hacks in 2011?
and the trade engine lag that never really got fixed?
and the crappy code that was exposed in the end?

He caused a bottleneck due to which his team couldn't properly secure Mt.Gox. He might be paranoid?

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 24, 2014, 12:19:36 PM

Karpeles, after all was extremely intelligent

This doesn't sound right to me. I heard he was French. Am I missing something?

Intelligent people have a habit of overlooking the dumbest mistakes. Although from what I've seen, I'm not so sure about either statement. From what I've read, he strikes me as one of those people who would tell people their IQ as a sign of intellect...from the free online IQ test they took when they were 13.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 24, 2014, 12:19:36 PM

Karpeles, after all was extremely intelligent

This doesn't sound right to me. I heard he was French. Am I missing something?

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Quote from: Bit_Happy on April 24, 2014, 01:02:22 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 24, 2014, 12:19:36 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 24, 2014, 12:19:36 PM

How difficult could it be to attach a keylogger to his computer while he is out for a frappuccino?

Karpeles, after all was extremely intelligent and was ultra-careful about the security issues. And he was in to programming ever since he was just 12 years old. Do you think it will be that easy to steal data from such a person using a keylogger?

Wait.
If he was "extremely intelligent and was ultra-careful about the security issues", then how do you explain the devastating pair of hacks in 2011?
and the trade engine lag that never really got fixed?
and the crappy code that was exposed in the end?

Schizophrenia?

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BTC Guild admin is claiming that he has no involvement to it.

Ref: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6375687

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 24, 2014, 12:19:36 PM

How difficult could it be to attach a keylogger to his computer while he is out for a frappuccino?

Karpeles, after all was extremely intelligent and was ultra-careful about the security issues. And he was in to programming ever since he was just 12 years old. Do you think it will be that easy to steal data from such a person using a keylogger?

Wait.
If he was "extremely intelligent and was ultra-careful about the security issues", then how do you explain the devastating pair of hacks in 2011?
and the trade engine lag that never really got fixed?
and the crappy code that was exposed in the end?

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How difficult could it be to attach a keylogger to his computer while he is out for a frappuccino?

Karpeles, after all was extremely intelligent and was ultra-careful about the security issues. And he was in to programming ever since he was just 12 years old. Do you think it will be that easy to steal data from such a person using a keylogger?

I'd rather not comment on his intelligence, however, hardware keyloggers are undetectable even by the most leet hackers. Many have fallen victim to the fbi thanks to hw keyloggers.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 24, 2014, 09:23:36 AM

How difficult could it be to attach a keylogger to his computer while he is out for a frappuccino?

Karpeles, after all was extremely intelligent and was ultra-careful about the security issues. And he was in to programming ever since he was just 12 years old. Do you think it will be that easy to steal data from such a person using a keylogger?

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 24, 2014, 09:23:36 AM

They can just launder those coins in the altcoin market. It is possible that they were stolen from him by someone close to him (if he really doesn't own them).

Check this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/21/us-bitcoin-mtgox-karpeles-insight-idUSBREA3K01D20140421

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Developers, stuck without direct access to the Mt. Gox source code, resorted to playing video games, people inside the company at the time say. Employees were also concerned that Karpeles' tight grip on all company affairs was causing a bottleneck: he was the only person who could access the exchange's bank accounts and bitcoin holdings and resolve requests by traders to cash out. Former employees say they asked Karpeles to share the passwords to Mt. Gox's bitcoin wallets in case he became incapacitated or unable to access the data. He refused, leaving him as the only person able to piece together the passwords, written on paper stored at his home, the office, and an undisclosed location.

It is clear that Karpeles was the only one who was capable of committing the robbery.

What doesn't make sense is why employees did not speak up on the forums and leak things Waaaaaay before they did (after the shutdown). Were they worried about not getting a check or Huh

I mean they must have suspected a lot and NOT to speak up seems a bit strange.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 24, 2014, 11:20:48 AM

They can just launder those coins in the altcoin market. It is possible that they were stolen from him by someone close to him (if he really doesn't own them).

Check this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/21/us-bitcoin-mtgox-karpeles-insight-idUSBREA3K01D20140421

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Developers, stuck without direct access to the Mt. Gox source code, resorted to playing video games, people inside the company at the time say. Employees were also concerned that Karpeles' tight grip on all company affairs was causing a bottleneck: he was the only person who could access the exchange's bank accounts and bitcoin holdings and resolve requests by traders to cash out. Former employees say they asked Karpeles to share the passwords to Mt. Gox's bitcoin wallets in case he became incapacitated or unable to access the data. He refused, leaving him as the only person able to piece together the passwords, written on paper stored at his home, the office, and an undisclosed location.

It is clear that Karpeles was the only one who was capable of committing the robbery.

How difficult could it be to attach a keylogger to his computer while he is out for a frappuccino?

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Quote from: renfr on April 24, 2014, 10:51:20 AM

Any proof that these coins belong to mtgox other than it is labelled "stolen coins"?

This particular wallet came in to existence immediately after the Mt Gox theft happened. And who else will be having this much amount of Bitcoins, other than Satoshi himself?

That's not a PROOF of anything...

What this whole thing amounts to is a conspiracy theory by someone trying to be a hero...

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Quote from: renfr on April 24, 2014, 10:51:20 AM

Any proof that these coins belong to mtgox other than it is labelled "stolen coins"?

You won't find any, because it's a Bitstamp address.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yxxgf/the_posted_address_with_a_transfers_totaling/

Also look at the balance over time. It never had much balance, just a high throughput. Exactly like an exchange address should look.

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Quote from: renfr on April 24, 2014, 10:51:20 AM

Any proof that these coins belong to mtgox other than it is labelled "stolen coins"?

This particular wallet came in to existence immediately after the Mt Gox theft happened. And who else will be having this much amount of Bitcoins, other than Satoshi himself?

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Any proof that these coins belong to mtgox other than it is labelled "stolen coins"?

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Quote from: templar77 on April 24, 2014, 10:29:43 AM

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/breaking-mt-gox-maidsafe-gox-coins-flowing-maidsafe-ipo/2014/04/24

It will be everywhere soon. You will gain some fame. Cool

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Quote from: templar77 on April 24, 2014, 10:21:30 AM

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/breaking-mt-gox-maidsafe-gox-coins-flowing-maidsafe-ipo/2014/04/24

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It's criminal that this happened to begin with and equally criminal that the current trustee has done such a terrible job of investigating this.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 24, 2014, 09:23:36 AM

Quote from: gagalady on April 24, 2014, 09:32:32 AM

They can just launder those coins in the altcoin market. It is possible that they were stolen from him by someone close to him (if he really doesn't own them).

Check this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/21/us-bitcoin-mtgox-karpeles-insight-idUSBREA3K01D20140421

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Developers, stuck without direct access to the Mt. Gox source code, resorted to playing video games, people inside the company at the time say. Employees were also concerned that Karpeles' tight grip on all company affairs was causing a bottleneck: he was the only person who could access the exchange's bank accounts and bitcoin holdings and resolve requests by traders to cash out. Former employees say they asked Karpeles to share the passwords to Mt. Gox's bitcoin wallets in case he became incapacitated or unable to access the data. He refused, leaving him as the only person able to piece together the passwords, written on paper stored at his home, the office, and an undisclosed location.

It is clear that Karpeles was the only one who was capable of committing the robbery.

So it is not possible. Yes, his way of handling Mt. Gox did cause a huge bottleneck there.

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So yes people like these effect bitcoin?

People like Karpeles bring bad name to Bitcoin. Such incidents will scare away a lot of businesses from adopting Bitcoin or other crypto-currencies such as Litecoin as a mode of payment.

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Quote from: templar77 on April 24, 2014, 08:27:40 AM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-ipo-of-maidsafe-entering-the-future-of-the-decentralized-internet-579797

I found this. What do you think?

https://blockchain.info/es/address/1KHfLixa2idRnZXMUfEisBati1vpywaH6E?offset=400&filter=0 -MaidSafe's Address
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1KzHa54Qt7V75VmEsSjP2MddPxb7Mwr1fc
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1Hi2bwsu3W3h7UDrbNUuxRG4x4s4HxtWo7
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1BH8FS6Yd9WvPZ1LDDWNpqXdzX8Q3freL9
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1KGA7TLtUwjZuM5fyyYwGXfviPJdVCc8rY
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1TCEZsNRhcmx4jBtZr7jt1yM59dJXZKoe - 64,000 BTC Mtgox Coins

I just came across this a few mins back. I am not quite sure what it means. Are these stolen coins? and what does it mean. Is there a way to stop them or perhaps even block the MSAFE whilst it is still a digital asset. I will speak with the MSC guys, I think we need more info though. If some bitcoin core devs could pitch in and work with us it would be great. Gavin for instance. Is it possible to shout out to him?

I have seen this sort of thing a lot and many times Gavin and co can provide more info and even investigation. If it is indeed bad behaviour then I am all in favor of stopping it as it harms the community for sure. We do need to be 100% though and the bitcoin core dev team can help.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 24, 2014, 08:51:53 AM

The question remains: who owns those coins?
Someone had to move them there. Is someone planning to invest with stolen coins?

Probably Mark Karpeles or someone close to him controls all the coins. Since now the wallet is tagged (and probably blocked by all the major exchanges), he can't exchange them for fiat via BTC-E or Bitstamp. So the only option left is now to invest them. Grin

So yes people like these effect bitcoin? There are always people who want to gain from innovations like bitcoin . That happens when bitcoin is not really coherent with any laws. We say bitcoin is freedom but corruption Is also mtgox is great example..

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 24, 2014, 08:51:53 AM

They can just launder those coins in the altcoin market. It is possible that they were stolen from him by someone close to him (if he really doesn't own them).

Check this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/21/us-bitcoin-mtgox-karpeles-insight-idUSBREA3K01D20140421

Quote

Developers, stuck without direct access to the Mt. Gox source code, resorted to playing video games, people inside the company at the time say. Employees were also concerned that Karpeles' tight grip on all company affairs was causing a bottleneck: he was the only person who could access the exchange's bank accounts and bitcoin holdings and resolve requests by traders to cash out. Former employees say they asked Karpeles to share the passwords to Mt. Gox's bitcoin wallets in case he became incapacitated or unable to access the data. He refused, leaving him as the only person able to piece together the passwords, written on paper stored at his home, the office, and an undisclosed location.

It is clear that Karpeles was the only one who was capable of committing the robbery.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 24, 2014, 08:51:53 AM

The question remains: who owns those coins?
Someone had to move them there. Is someone planning to invest with stolen coins?

Probably Mark Karpeles or someone close to him controls all the coins. Since now the wallet is tagged (and probably blocked by all the major exchanges), he can't exchange them for fiat via BTC-E or Bitstamp. So the only option left is now to invest them. Grin

They can just launder those coins in the altcoin market. It is possible that they were stolen from him by someone close to him (if he really doesn't own them).

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The question remains: who owns those coins?
Someone had to move them there. Is someone planning to invest with stolen coins?

Probably Mark Karpeles or someone close to him controls all the coins. Since now the wallet is tagged (and probably blocked by all the major exchanges), he can't exchange them for fiat via BTC-E or Bitstamp. So the only option left is now to invest them. Grin

He or his accomplishes are actually trying to cut the trail. So they are investing in an altcoin, then they'll sale those alts in some coin only exchange against BTC and those will be fresh BTC for them with no string attached. The sheep-market money launderer also tried something like this...

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