Muhammed Zakir owes me some btc[RESOLVED]

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Quote from: chronicsky on June 07, 2016, 11:04:19 AM

Quote from: shorena on June 07, 2016, 10:57:12 AM

Quote from: chronicsky on June 07, 2016, 10:36:39 AM

Just NOW , I got a Message from Shorena that MZ has contacted him and has sent him funds of my loan which he will be sending to me Cheesy

So seems like MJ's gonna be clear now Cheesy

I got a message via twitter from MZ and after the usual sign a message please so I know its actually you I was asked to handle the repayment.

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
this is shorena from bitcointalk.org and today is 2016 june 7th
I will repay the loan for Muhammed Zakir to chronicsky with the funds received on the address below
1PU9NZo6BFji8m8znbu4NJE3Rwc1jSz1qT
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
18uTXyQubfaYrkbQDdaXhzd2ALEY5YN77B
HyKXGcfTN1m0SJJp5L2G07q9J/R+Qgx1aKG9gxU4cg49BlZVzKEyfe4Dj7kdPvdxHssk5hdnibPyOHd5vb3fk28=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Repayment has been done to -redacted-[1] with -redacted-[1] and is confirmed now.

He didnt share much with me and I will share even less here, because I dont think its my place to do so. Just this much: dont expect them to be back any time soon.

[1] chronicsky can confirm.

RECEIVED

CONFIRMED!!!! Cheesy

since this problem already resolved, i think its better if you add "SOLVED" or something like that on this thread (or maybe lock), isn't it?

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Um, did I get the wrong impression or did someone pay MZ's debt for him? It sounded like that's the way it happened and if that's the case the trust ought to stay as it is. What a weird situation, he was so trusted before all this. Something must have happened.

Edit: Nevermind, I misread shorena's post. Still, it's too bad.

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Quote from: Quickseller on June 10, 2016, 03:38:38 PM

Quote from: Scamalert on June 10, 2016, 03:09:39 PM

Quote from: guitarplinker on June 07, 2016, 11:35:37 AM

Glad to see that this loan has finally been repaid. I've removed the negative trust I left on MZ's profile because of this.

Quote from: SM23031997 on June 10, 2016, 10:40:32 AM

I have removed the negative trust I left on his profile As this loan has finally been repaid and Glad to see this issue has been resolved though.

I find it pretty untrustworthy take to a loan and disappear for 6 month.

I think it is a good policy to remove a negative rating after someone repays an old debt in order to give them an incentive to make good on bad debts and to pay other money owed. The neutral warnings should serve as a warning to others in case he were to try to borrow money again in the future.

I see your point.

In my opinion: an honest and trustworthy person would not need an "incentive" to pay their debt.
They would pay their debt no mater what..... since it is in their nature to do so.

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Quote from: Scamalert on June 10, 2016, 03:09:39 PM

Quote from: guitarplinker on June 07, 2016, 11:35:37 AM

Glad to see that this loan has finally been repaid. I've removed the negative trust I left on MZ's profile because of this.

Quote from: SM23031997 on June 10, 2016, 10:40:32 AM

I have removed the negative trust I left on his profile As this loan has finally been repaid and Glad to see this issue has been resolved though.

I find it pretty untrustworthy take to a loan and disappear for 6 month.

I think it is a good policy to remove a negative rating after someone repays an old debt in order to give them an incentive to make good on bad debts and to pay other money owed. The neutral warnings should serve as a warning to others in case he were to try to borrow money again in the future.

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Quote from: guitarplinker on June 07, 2016, 11:35:37 AM

Glad to see that this loan has finally been repaid. I've removed the negative trust I left on MZ's profile because of this.

Quote from: SM23031997 on June 10, 2016, 10:40:32 AM

I have removed the negative trust I left on his profile As this loan has finally been repaid and Glad to see this issue has been resolved though.

I find it pretty untrustworthy take to a loan and disappear for 6 month.

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I have removed the negative trust I left on his profile As this loan has finally been repaid and Glad to see this issue has been resolved though.

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Quote from: Blazr on June 07, 2016, 12:51:37 PM

So what happened to Zakir exactly?
I was pretty worried initially. Hope he is alright now.

Most likely was too busy to respond here, and handling stuff in real life is my guess like everyone elses.

Glad this issue has been resolved though.

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So what happened to Zakir exactly?
I was pretty worried initially. Hope he is alright now.

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Glad to see that this loan has finally been repaid. I've removed the negative trust I left on MZ's profile because of this.

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Quote from: shorena on June 07, 2016, 10:57:12 AM

Quote from: chronicsky on June 07, 2016, 10:36:39 AM

Just NOW , I got a Message from Shorena that MZ has contacted him and has sent him funds of my loan which he will be sending to me Cheesy

So seems like MJ's gonna be clear now Cheesy

I got a message via twitter from MZ and after the usual sign a message please so I know its actually you I was asked to handle the repayment.

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
this is shorena from bitcointalk.org and today is 2016 june 7th
I will repay the loan for Muhammed Zakir to chronicsky with the funds received on the address below
1PU9NZo6BFji8m8znbu4NJE3Rwc1jSz1qT
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
18uTXyQubfaYrkbQDdaXhzd2ALEY5YN77B
HyKXGcfTN1m0SJJp5L2G07q9J/R+Qgx1aKG9gxU4cg49BlZVzKEyfe4Dj7kdPvdxHssk5hdnibPyOHd5vb3fk28=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Repayment has been done to -redacted-[1] with -redacted-[1] and is confirmed now.

He didnt share much with me and I will share even less here, because I dont think its my place to do so. Just this much: dont expect them to be back any time soon.

[1] chronicsky can confirm.

RECEIVED

CONFIRMED!!!! Cheesy

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Quote from: chronicsky on June 07, 2016, 10:36:39 AM

Just NOW , I got a Message from Shorena that MZ has contacted him and has sent him funds of my loan which he will be sending to me Cheesy

So seems like MJ's gonna be clear now Cheesy

I got a message via twitter from MZ and after the usual sign a message please so I know its actually you I was asked to handle the repayment.

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
this is shorena from bitcointalk.org and today is 2016 june 7th
I will repay the loan for Muhammed Zakir to chronicsky with the funds received on the address below
1PU9NZo6BFji8m8znbu4NJE3Rwc1jSz1qT
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
18uTXyQubfaYrkbQDdaXhzd2ALEY5YN77B
HyKXGcfTN1m0SJJp5L2G07q9J/R+Qgx1aKG9gxU4cg49BlZVzKEyfe4Dj7kdPvdxHssk5hdnibPyOHd5vb3fk28=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Repayment has been done to -redacted-[1] with -redacted-[1] and is confirmed now.

He didnt share much with me and I will share even less here, because I dont think its my place to do so. Just this much: dont expect them to be back any time soon.

[1] chronicsky can confirm.

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Just NOW , I got a Message from Shorena that MZ has contacted him and has sent him funds of my loan which he will be sending to me Cheesy

So seems like MJ's gonna be clear now Cheesy

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Thanks for everyone's comment , but let me tell you again , i Trust MZ - i have just left this thread here to put it in people's mind ... i know he is little busy these days!

I will lock the thread now to avoid further Abuse....

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Quote from: chronicsky on December 06, 2015, 08:51:59 AM

Please instead of commenting just something random for post boost, avoid doing it here!
i see no relevance to link and it's clear from my Skype Image that when he took the loan and he has never replied since

sorry for my english.
link dedicate not for you, but voucher @letyouearn .

from you skype screen I not see for how long (timeframe) you grant loan.
and when you contact them for a repaid?

and I not post random,I am here because my activities closely related to its.

if this not scam accusation, (since you not want use scam report format https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-report-format-use-it-to-make-scam-reports-properly-260073 )
that would be more appropriate move to reputation thread IMHO

other interests not affect the obligations, even more reply to lender

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Quote from: zazarb on December 06, 2015, 07:48:48 AM

Quote from: letyouearn on December 06, 2015, 05:32:29 AM

Quote from: shorena on December 06, 2015, 05:09:53 AM

Look where the coins went -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/196iuZmyMK9obsL65jmbQkxS3HNXxFv8KH/transactions/out/0

Looks like a mixer or exchange to me.

Are you sure it was Muhammed Zakir[1] and not someone else? Its the skype from their profile, but:

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1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh as my primary address. This is the address I use when doing a deal or for a loan. If you get any other address from this account, you must ask a signed message from my primary address.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/muhammed-zakir-320943

buddy, not to worry, That btc address is own by MZ . I bought a Ledger H.W.1 from him . Last time , I talk with him is the same date 19 th september 2015.

suggest becoming more careful with vouching, i remember one:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12617689
of course here maybe is not the case.

Quote from: chronicsky on December 06, 2015, 04:36:31 AM

Quote from: botany on December 06, 2015, 04:12:49 AM

Quote from: chronicsky on December 06, 2015, 03:42:09 AM

The main question is that his last seen shows him as to be online last day

He does seem to have been online a couple of days back.
Last Active: December 04, 2015, 05:03:26 PM

My advice is just to give this issue a little more time.

I understand that he has always been a good guy and been a better friend but the part about him being Active now n then troubles me...
I wouldn't have posted this thread if not for that!!

for any time that you gave a loan?
and how much time he has not answered for you?

That was my miss understanding . Because , that scammer is a different one and using the name of that person whom i know as per my concern. But i done a deal with him , so i just post my opinion about him.

Note : I am quite busy with my studies , so don't have much time to make posts these days. Just take a small brake of 2 hours to relax. Made just 13 posts last week bcoz of a load of studies for your kind information

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Quote from: Quickseller on December 06, 2015, 09:44:48 AM

Quote from: shorena on December 06, 2015, 05:09:53 AM

Look where the coins went -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/196iuZmyMK9obsL65jmbQkxS3HNXxFv8KH/transactions/out/0

Looks like a mixer or exchange to me.

Are you sure it was Muhammed Zakir[1] and not someone else? Its the skype from their profile, but:

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1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh as my primary address. This is the address I use when doing a deal or for a loan. If you get any other address from this account, you must ask a signed message from my primary address.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/muhammed-zakir-320943

If you look at that address on blockchain.info, you will see that he has sent BTC to that address 1MZakirz.... multiple times, so I think it is safe to say that the address is likely owned by an exchange/service that he uses. Or if it is an imposter (less likely) he will at least know who is impersonating him.

I do find it somewhat strange that he has been so inactive as of recently. It looks like he had posted several times in mid September, then once in October to confirm receipt of a loan repayment, and nothing since. This is verses him being extremely active for a good part of the rest of the year.

Maybe he found other interests.

I find it rather weird too. He was quite a nice guy when I communicated with him various times throughout my Bitcointalk life. I returned his loan that I owed him for sometime and he never seemed to have moved it (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh/transactions). He didn't respond when I PMed him during the last few days before my loan repayment. It could be possible that he is either busy or his skype got compromised.

Edit: The amount that is in his address is exactly the same as the amount that OP was owed. MZ wouldn't have much trouble repaying the loan.

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Quote from: shorena on December 06, 2015, 05:09:53 AM

Look where the coins went -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/196iuZmyMK9obsL65jmbQkxS3HNXxFv8KH/transactions/out/0

Looks like a mixer or exchange to me.

Are you sure it was Muhammed Zakir[1] and not someone else? Its the skype from their profile, but:

Quote

1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh as my primary address. This is the address I use when doing a deal or for a loan. If you get any other address from this account, you must ask a signed message from my primary address.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/muhammed-zakir-320943

If you look at that address on blockchain.info, you will see that he has sent BTC to that address 1MZakirz.... multiple times, so I think it is safe to say that the address is likely owned by an exchange/service that he uses. Or if it is an imposter (less likely) he will at least know who is impersonating him.

I do find it somewhat strange that he has been so inactive as of recently. It looks like he had posted several times in mid September, then once in October to confirm receipt of a loan repayment, and nothing since. This is verses him being extremely active for a good part of the rest of the year.

Maybe he found other interests.

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Quote from: shorena on December 06, 2015, 05:09:53 AM

Look where the coins went -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/196iuZmyMK9obsL65jmbQkxS3HNXxFv8KH/transactions/out/0

Looks like a mixer or exchange to me.

Are you sure it was Muhammed Zakir[1] and not someone else? Its the skype from their profile, but:

Quote

1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh as my primary address. This is the address I use when doing a deal or for a loan. If you get any other address from this account, you must ask a signed message from my primary address.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/muhammed-zakir-320943

It's his skype and he has sent other address before so i didn't bother asking him!

Quote from: zazarb on December 06, 2015, 07:48:48 AM

Quote from: letyouearn on December 06, 2015, 05:32:29 AM

Quote from: shorena on December 06, 2015, 05:09:53 AM

Look where the coins went -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/196iuZmyMK9obsL65jmbQkxS3HNXxFv8KH/transactions/out/0

Looks like a mixer or exchange to me.

Are you sure it was Muhammed Zakir[1] and not someone else? Its the skype from their profile, but:

Quote

1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh as my primary address. This is the address I use when doing a deal or for a loan. If you get any other address from this account, you must ask a signed message from my primary address.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/muhammed-zakir-320943

buddy, not to worry, That btc address is own by MZ . I bought a Ledger H.W.1 from him . Last time , I talk with him is the same date 19 th september 2015.

suggest becoming more careful with vouching, i remember one:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12617689
of course here maybe is not the case.

Quote from: chronicsky on December 06, 2015, 04:36:31 AM

Quote from: botany on December 06, 2015, 04:12:49 AM

Quote from: chronicsky on December 06, 2015, 03:42:09 AM

The main question is that his last seen shows him as to be online last day

He does seem to have been online a couple of days back.
Last Active: December 04, 2015, 05:03:26 PM

My advice is just to give this issue a little more time.

I understand that he has always been a good guy and been a better friend but the part about him being Active now n then troubles me...
I wouldn't have posted this thread if not for that!!

for any time that you gave a loan?
and how much time he has not answered for you?

Please instead of commenting just something random for post boost, avoid doing it here!
i see no relevance to link and it's clear from my Skype Image that when he took the loan and he has never replied since

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Quote from: letyouearn on December 06, 2015, 05:32:29 AM

Quote from: shorena on December 06, 2015, 05:09:53 AM

Look where the coins went -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/196iuZmyMK9obsL65jmbQkxS3HNXxFv8KH/transactions/out/0

Looks like a mixer or exchange to me.

Are you sure it was Muhammed Zakir[1] and not someone else? Its the skype from their profile, but:

Quote

1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh as my primary address. This is the address I use when doing a deal or for a loan. If you get any other address from this account, you must ask a signed message from my primary address.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/muhammed-zakir-320943

buddy, not to worry, That btc address is own by MZ . I bought a Ledger H.W.1 from him . Last time , I talk with him is the same date 19 th september 2015.

suggest becoming more careful with vouching, i remember one:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12617689
of course here maybe is not the case.

Quote from: chronicsky on December 06, 2015, 04:36:31 AM

Quote from: botany on December 06, 2015, 04:12:49 AM

Quote from: chronicsky on December 06, 2015, 03:42:09 AM

The main question is that his last seen shows him as to be online last day

He does seem to have been online a couple of days back.
Last Active: December 04, 2015, 05:03:26 PM

My advice is just to give this issue a little more time.

I understand that he has always been a good guy and been a better friend but the part about him being Active now n then troubles me...
I wouldn't have posted this thread if not for that!!

for any time that you gave a loan?
and how much time he has not answered for you?

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Quote from: shorena on December 06, 2015, 05:09:53 AM

Look where the coins went -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/196iuZmyMK9obsL65jmbQkxS3HNXxFv8KH/transactions/out/0

Looks like a mixer or exchange to me.

Are you sure it was Muhammed Zakir[1] and not someone else? Its the skype from their profile, but:

Quote

1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh as my primary address. This is the address I use when doing a deal or for a loan. If you get any other address from this account, you must ask a signed message from my primary address.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/muhammed-zakir-320943

buddy, not to worry, That btc address is own by MZ . I bought a Ledger H.W.1 from him . Last time , I talk with him is the same date 19 th september 2015.

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Look where the coins went -> https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/196iuZmyMK9obsL65jmbQkxS3HNXxFv8KH/transactions/out/0

Looks like a mixer or exchange to me.

Are you sure it was Muhammed Zakir[1] and not someone else? Its the skype from their profile, but:

Quote

1MZakirz92c76pK6BNy1NAEmbWYpDcP7mh as my primary address. This is the address I use when doing a deal or for a loan. If you get any other address from this account, you must ask a signed message from my primary address.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/muhammed-zakir-320943

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Quote from: botany on December 06, 2015, 04:12:49 AM

Quote from: chronicsky on December 06, 2015, 03:42:09 AM

The main question is that his last seen shows him as to be online last day

He does seem to have been online a couple of days back.
Last Active: December 04, 2015, 05:03:26 PM

My advice is just to give this issue a little more time.

I understand that he has always been a good guy and been a better friend but the part about him being Active now n then troubles me...
I wouldn't have posted this thread if not for that!!

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Quote from: chronicsky on December 06, 2015, 03:42:09 AM

The main question is that his last seen shows him as to be online last day

He does seem to have been online a couple of days back.
Last Active: December 04, 2015, 05:03:26 PM

My advice is just to give this issue a little more time.

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The main question is that his last seen shows him as to be online last day

chronicsky

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Quote from: letyouearn on December 06, 2015, 03:24:15 AM

May be , he is too busy in his real life. So, he can't spend some time on forum. I will try to contact him for you and inform him about your issue. Hope, he will reply soon.

yeah i think so too
Thank you

Quote from: mexxer-2 on December 06, 2015, 03:32:52 AM

Quote from: chronicsky on December 06, 2015, 02:38:07 AM

I don't say that he will scam me ,

Heh, why is it on scam accusation then? BTW I think Zakir is trustable enough to not scam for fractions of coins

Yeah i know but i didn't knew where else to put the thread

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Quote from: chronicsky on December 06, 2015, 02:38:07 AM

I don't say that he will scam me ,

Heh, why is it on scam accusation then? BTW I think Zakir is trustable enough to not scam for fractions of coins

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Quote from: letyouearn on December 06, 2015, 03:24:15 AM

May be , he is too busy in his real life. So, he can't spend some time on forum. I will try to contact him for you and inform him about your issue. Hope, he will reply soon.

Yeah as @letyouearn said, there may me some problem with him, thats why he couldnt contact you. He is a good guy, and also he is my friend, I did many deal with him. Give him some more time.

By the way @letyouearn is also my good friend and he also owes my some mBTC Grin

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May be , he is too busy in his real life. So, he can't spend some time on forum. I will try to contact him for you and inform him about your issue. Hope, he will reply soon.

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EDIT : I have myself been quite busy and forgot to update that i had received a messaged from MZ around before 25th December stating that he is busy with life and would repay me soon.
Though i have tried calling him several times after that to see only that his number is off.....

Hope he returns soon...

Thanks everyone for help, appreciate it!!!

He took some Interest free loans from me here n there sometimes via Skype , cos he has been a good friend here for long , i never doubted and sent him without any problem and he would return after a month or so...

He took 0.16 BTC from me on 19th September
https://blockchain.info/tx/afe13b4bef78fd4e1e7cb03149fca6908e731f401df2a7b6ee1dd3a628d98529

It's been so long , i have tried calling his mobile which is off and have messaged him here and on Skype...

I don't say that he will scam me , i trust him on that... But though i haven't seen his post lately, i do see his last seen which says a day ago..

So does anyone know's where he is ? IS he Okay?
Hope he is fine!

Regards Sky

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